to head-to-head polls. there was one by npr that had biden up two points over trump. of course, i would argue that those national polls are kind of hiding and giving a misleading picture when you break it down and look at the bow to ground states like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, where biden is largely behind. i think outside of there being a major development where you have, again, like the likes of pelosi, or clyburn, or obama the former president,, going to biden and sitting him down and giving a full-court press and assange you got to drop out -- and saying you got to drop out. outside of something like that happening, i don't see how it's not biden as the democratic nominee at 81 years old going up against trump in november. host: joey garrison, white house correspondent for usa today. you can find his work at usatoday.

good morning. it was last night in detroit michigan that president biden made those remarks at the events from the associated press. this article notes, at the same school where four years ago then-candidate biden positioned himself as a bridge to the next generation of democratic leaders the embattled president, who has been under pressure from more than two weeks to step aside, made it clear he was going nowhere. here are some of president biden's remarks from last night. pres. biden: folks, you probably noticed there is a lot of speculation lately. what is joe biden going to do? is he going to stay in the race? is he going to drop out? i am running, and we are going to win. [cheering] in fact, just today the national

poll has me beating trump 50% to 48%. so much of my campaign has fallen apart, they sent. i'm the nominee of the democratic party. the only democrat or republican that has been donald trump, ever. and i'm going to beat him again. i know him. donald trump is a loser. [cheering] host: more from the associated press. the show of force from biden at the rally was part of his team's relentless sprint to convince lawmakers, donors, and a skeptical electric at the age of 81 he is still capable of being president.

a spate of travel to states have not tamped down the angst within the party about biden's candidacy and has brought pop rocks against trump in november. race again? this question for independents and democrats only this first hour. if you say yes, (202) 748-8000. no, (202) 748-8001. and if you are not sure, (202) 748-8003. we'll start with susan. good morning, susan. caller: good morning. i think president biden is doing a good job of rehabilitating his desire and ability to run this country. he is so much better than

president trump. we just have to, you know, the voters are the ones that matter. and for the people who are coming out, that are running their own elections throughout the country, you know, the house, they have to run their campaign and they have to win. they should not just rely on president biden. but, you know, i have heard people even on cnn, msnbc, other networks make mistakes with names and i personally, myself, have made mistakes with names of people and forgetting every once in a while what i'm going to get when i am coming you know, walking into my bedroom. what did i go in my bedroom to get? so, he is ok. the only thing i would like is, i don't think he needs to take a cognitive test, but i do think that it would be good if former

president trump took a lie detector test to see if he really did have sex with stormy daniels. we know he lies, but put it out there for the people. he keeps saying these things. so, i am fully behind biden. if kamala harris is the backup, then i'm ok for her too. thanks. host: mary in port washington, maryland. caller: good morning. i say absolutely, no. he should step down. you can put kamala harris in or he can put other people in. there are plenty of people that can take his place. we have the gaza war still going on. hello? host: i am here, mary. caller: we have the gaza war still going on. you have a lost war in ukraine. how many more young people are they going to kill off there? we need the money here. and then they are going to let

netanyahu come here to speak? that is going to wipe out joe biden right there. host: did you vote for president biden in 2020? caller: he was the right person to be donald trump, but he cannot be donald trump now. he is cognitively failing. i don't think he is running the country. he doesn't know what is going on. does he know that people are still dying in gaza? does he know the war should end in ukraine? what do wars accomplish? boeing is going to get money for making the war equipment, yes. right now we are in a crisis and biden is not the one to bring down the crisis. anyone can be trump right now. that is how bad he is. is going to talk himself off of a cliff because he is crazy. he is satan. but biden is not the one right now. people better listen to me. i totally disagree with the person in florida. she is drinking the kool-aid. but right now, the michigan rally, those are kool-aid

drinkers and i am not one of them. host: christine in richmond, virginia. good morning, christine. caller: yes, i'm definitely voting for president biden. he is a good man. i think cognitively he is fine. he was very tired when he had the debate. i think jet lag had a good deal to do it that, plus the cold and whatnot. i have heard speeches since then and the last interviews were excellent. it was a master class in policy. i was really pleased with that. i think he is the man to get the job done. thank you. host: eddie in atlanta calling on the no line. morning, eddie. caller: good morning. but i called on the no line. i think biden do need to be, to stay in office, because he done

a good job. he done a real good job. my answer is, i am a diabetic. i get my insulin free. the health care, our health care when donald trump was in office, it was high. and then biden came in, he -- the stimulus that he gave under joe biden, everybody talking about the economy is so bad, but, no, it is not so bad. my bank account say $10. when trump was in office my bank account was $100. biden came in and he did something for everybody. my social security was raised under joe biden. host: do you have any concerns about president biden's ability, his cognitive abilities? not just his policy, but his

physical health? caller: no. biden been everywhere. every time a disaster happen under biden, biden goes. just like the boston bridge had collapsed. he helped him. he helping every port of america. this other black lady just came on talking about, he don't need this. he can't say it is the whole war -- save the whole world, he just president. everybody got to do our part. not just him by himself. we don't give him a magic wand to make everything right and everything good. we've got to take the bad with the good sometimes, and like i say, my vote is for him. i call on the no line, because i

could not get in on the other line. host: that is eddie in atlanta. it's here from joseph. good morning, joseph. caller: good morning. am i on? host: yes, you are. caller: i'm thinking biden should stay in the race. i support him, but -- sorry. host: heather in bismarck, north dakota on the yes line. good morning. caller: sorry, i meant to call in on the no line. i think that last lady needs to speak english. i don't know what she is watching, but writing is an old man and he needs to take a nap on wednesday we had a discussion about what an exciting time this is in our country. president biden is old. he is not a bad man, but he is

an old man. the thing is that president trump did more for this country in the four years he was here -- host: are you a democrat? caller: no, i am an independent, but now i am switching over to republican because i completely support trump. he has not been sitting on his hands these last four years while biden has been messing up our country. host: we will hear from annie in georgia on the no line. good morning, annie. ann are you there? we will try one more time for and in georgia. we will go on to duke in maine on the yes line. good morning, duke. caller: yes, good morning, c-span. i say to president joe biden, go for broke. i think that we stand our best chance with him. i don't know who else they would put in their that has had the

experience. yes, he is an old man. i mean, and he, you know, flubs up some of his words. i do that myself. host: are you still there? caller: hello? host: let's go to floyd in louisiana on the yes line. good morning, florida. caller: good morning, c-span. i watched c-span every morning. i'm 89 years old and i have never seen this before. i say, yes, stay in the race. one thing i'm concerned about, the ads they sent out. they got the best system in the world to go against trump. on each ad they have running against trump they need to run that bus to start off. each one of those ads, run that bus with trump getting off saying those words he said on every one of them.

thank you and god bless. host: bill in ohio on the no line. morning, bill. caller: good morning, how are you? host: doing well, thanks. caller: listen, i think i got a little mixed up there. i thought it said, should he get out of the race? i'm actually a yes. i think he should stay. i have never seen or heard of any open forum where the incumbent gets out of the race and you pick someone else and they win. we have got to be donald trump. he is a criminal. a loser, a fraud. and this country better wake up, because we will not have a democracy any longer if we elect donald trump again. we should all just pack up and move to canada or somewhere else, because we will effectively live in russia.

host: in today's wall street journal this article, the headline, lawmakers wonder if harris would make a stronger candidate. the article says democratic lawmakers, strategists, county chairs, and donors say they are hearing more support and praise for harris than ever before. even if biden doesn't bow out of the race party leaders are pushing the campaign to evaluate harris moore to counter concerns about his age and ability to effectively make the case for the 70-year-old -- make the case against the 78-year-old trump. the article goes on to say that several voters for hillary clinton -- i'm sorry, the article goes on to say that a washington post/abc news poll released on tuesday found harris beating trump by two points in a hypothetical contest while biden trailed by one point. those matchups were within the survey's margin of error.

the poll found 70% of democrats and democrat-leaning democrat -- independent said they would be satisfied with harris as the nominee. a poll released friday showed harris getting 50% of registered voters to 49% for trump. almost identical to biden. we are talking with democratic and independent collars this morning, asking if president biden should stay in the race. let's hear from donna in pennsylvania, calling on the yes line. good morning, donna. caller: good morning. i want to say, most definitely. biden is a strong candidate. he had a bad night. they put kamala harris in we lose. they are not going to vote for the first black woman president. get it through your head. we lose if they put her in there. you should keep biden in there. he did a great job last night. the only thing, he messed up on

a couple of names. so what? who don't? sometimes i walk up and down the steps and forget what i came down the stairs four. i've got to walk back up. come on, and i'm 70. let's be for real. if she gets in -- and i'm a democrat -- if she gets in, we lose. tim ryan was on cnn last night. he put biden down last night about the thing he had in michigan. he put him down and you could see his face, how nasty it was, how, is going to do it again. you ain't even giving biden a chance because he had one bad night. let's be for real. i think they wanted to put kamala harris in, so we lose. and that is what i believe. obama had trouble getting in there. but when obama became the first black president what did they do? they created the tea party. then trump got in.

so, no. was definitely biden should stay in. that's all i have to say. host: tony in texas, calling on the no line. morning, tony. caller: good morning. i was waiting for the democrats to shoot themselves in the foot. joe had a bad night. that is it. yesterday he had a hard day. he performed beautifully. so, i think he should stay in this. he's doing a good job. he is a good man. he is a good president. thank you very much. host: suzanne in pennsylvania on the yes line. good morning. caller: good morning. i'm voting for joe biden. writing with biden. there is no question about that. the reason is, he is the guy for the times. he is definitely aging, but we are all aging. i don't know anybody that is going backwards. he is definitely the guy to vote for, and whether he is in

decline or whether he springs to life he is definitely the person to take us forward based on his commitment, his experience, and his integrity and his judgment. this is the guy to vote for. you are not just voting for him, you are voting for the democratic way. amen. host: william in new york on the not sure line. good morning, william. caller: yeah. i don't even dare say yes or no. i hope that he will remain and i hope that god will give him the strength to keep his marbles in place, you know? while he is speaking, while he is, you know, he has been a very good president, but i know his age is keeping up with him, you know? it's catching up with him, i mean. but still, i mean, i would rather have him then trump for certain, you know? and so, what i mean, i hope he

will win, but it is kind of scary, you know? because, you know, he fumbled pretty badly, you know, while he was debating with trump. and so that is kind of a scary thing. it shows the personal power of trump. that he causes him to fumble his words so that he couldn't even finish a sentence. that was a terrible thing, but it was a supernatural thing of personal power on trump's part. that is not a good thing for him to be president. you know? anyways, i hope i got my message across, but i'm not even going to vote. i'm too scared to vote. i'm just trusting in god. in doing what i think everybody should be doing, is praying to god almighty, you know? that is my actual answer. thank you very much for taking my call. host: gail in virginia calling

on the yes line. good morning, gail. caller: good morning. yes, definitely i am voting for joe biden. he's got the integrity we need for our country. trump is a buffoon and loser. he is a liar and joe biden has compassion and the integrity that we need for our country. and the other gentleman that just called said he is not going to vote. if he wants joe to win he should get out there and do it. you know? men have died to give us the ability to vote, and we ought to get off of our butts to do it, and vote for joe biden if we want to keep our country. thank you. host: bill in delaware on the no line. good morning morning, bill. caller: good morning.

no. joe biden is a liar. you people don't know him. you ought to come to delaware. better yet, why don't you take into your state? host: bill, are you a democrat? caller: no. host: let's hear from brian in louisiana on the yes line. good morning, brian. caller: good morning. i'm an independent. i think joe biden should stay in the race. i will not be voting for joe biden, but it is the way the democratic party right now is trying to push him out is actually, it is not even legal what they are doing. because he actually won the primary. so unless joe biden decides himself he wants to get out there is really not anything they can do, and it seems like obama and pelosi are behind the scenes trying to work something out to get rid of him.

i just don't think that is right. i don't think he is competent. he has been a terrible president, but they cannot do what they are doing to him. he has the right to be in this race as the presidential nominee for the democratic party. host: brian, you said you were an independent. who did you vote for in 2020? caller: i didn't vote in 2020. host: are you going to vote this year? caller: i don't know yet. if i do vote i'm going to end up voting for trump this time i think, because i think the economy was better under trump. the border was better under trump. so, joe biden just has not done it for me at all. he has been a big disappointment, actually. host: rob in grand junction, colorado on the no line. morning, rob. caller: yes, good morning. before i got into education i did market research. the problem with president biden is the perception.

perception that he is old. he shuffles. he makes mistakes when he talks. it is not the hard-core biden voters that will not vote for him. it is those on the fence. those that voted for him, those will stay home. the fact he is ahead by two points on the national poll is irrelevant, because we have the electoral college. the only three states that matter are pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan. in the last two elections those were close. the problem, especially when we are talking about senator michael bennet, who said he should run -- because they are concerned people are going to sit home and it will be a landslide in the senate and house for people that don't photo. you have been asking questions who they voted for? i haven't voted for the presidential ballot for the last two elections. i will not vote this time. my mother sent back in the 1980's when ronald reagan was

running. that she took care of an old man, that she wasn't voting for one. but i will vote down ballot. the problem is it is those three states. fact is, i really believe he won't do it. i like his policies. i like what he has done, but being in colorado doesn't make any difference. he is leading colorado by 13 points. the situation is he will not be able to win because people that voted for him in 2020 that are sitting there concerned about his mental acuity not only will not vote for him and stay home but they will not vote down ballot and that will be a very negative thing for the democrats and put the republicans in charge and i know too much about them living in colorado. that is really my concern, is the fact that perceptions of him, not being at a mental level to be able to handle the job. thank you for your time. host: amy in georgia on the yes

line. good morning, amy. caller: good morning. yes, i support joe biden and i'm disappointed in the democratic party because this election reminds me a lot of clinton -- hillary clinton's election. we are not voting based on policy. we are voting based on likability and character. i think joe biden has a way better character than donald trump. donald trump lies constantly. he doesn't stay on point. and right now it feels like it is age discrimination. there are a lot of officials older than joe biden that we are not asking to step down or step away. but it is just him, and that is unfair to him. he should stay in the election and democrats need to have a come to jesus meeting and agree he is the nominee and support him the best way they can. host: that was amy in colorado. an earlier caller mentioned

former president ronald reagan. in the wall street journal, this headline, americans worried about reagan's age too, and said, like president biden, ronald reagan seemed doting in his first debate for the election but he went on to win a second term and left office with notable achievements and broad public support. let's hear from allison in texas on the no line. good morning. caller: hi. good morning. i would like to take all of the emotion night of it and just ask people to please kind of stepped back just for one minute while i am talking. joe biden, picture him as any candidate. take his name off of it. picture him as a silhouette. and look at the last year of polling. all of the polls, not just one or two. he has been under trump for the past year.

he is pulling worse because of the debate and democrats have to be up more points republicans to get the electoral college. i personally don't care if it is joe biden or not. i don't love him or anything like that, but i really care that trump is not winning. so, i care about having the strongest candidate possible, and everybody that is saying democrats stick to him, that's not going to pull him through. i'm so sorry to tell you, he is not. he is so underwater, what he has to do is be this miraculous candidate that makes the biggest comeback in history just to get even to trump. you don't believe me? go back and look at the polls. the thing is that, that last point, if you have a convention

and get, basically, a ton of free press for younger, exciting candidates that do not have the badges that biden is carrying, for gaza and all of that, they are going to get all of this free press, they are going to be in the news. everybody's going to get excited. or a lot more people well. in the problem with biden's, i was even considering sitting it out. not because i want to take biden, but because he is not going to win anyway, and it makes me so angry at the dnc runs the worst candidates every time. so, if you care about trump not winning, please think about what is going to happen. no, we are not making this up. he cannot make the most miraculous comeback in history. i mean, it is just a fact. thank you. host: this morning we are

talking to -- queuing from democratic and independent callers, asking if president biden should stay in the 2024 rays. if you would like to call in the numb is (202) 748-80 if you say yes. if you say no, (202) 748-8001. and if you are notur (202) 748-8002. you can also leave us a comment on facebook or on x. on facebookraon would comment, yes, it is too late for biden to be removed from any ballot and campaign money cannot be moved to the next person. that is not harris. if you don't want to vote for den, both for harris. and brown says, if joe biden sts on the ticket the democrats will end up losing thislection and their congressional seats to the republicans. and when this happens the

republican agenda project 2025, project 2025, will be enforced. let's hear from denise in new york, calling on the not shoreline. good morning morning, denise. caller: good morning, how are you doing? i wasn't sure whether or not biden won or not because of his age. it definitely is age determination because there are people in the house that are much older than biden, which is true. i believe now they need to get on biden about his deer in headlights presentation. that is what he looks like when he is on the podiums. he looks like a deer in headlight every time. i wasn't sure whether i was going to vote for him, but we need to make sure that, since he said he is not going to coming out the race, we need to put all of our eggs in the basket and stand behind him, so that way donald trump does not win. that is the key. it is making sure donald trump does not win and we have a lot

on steak, which is the democratic democracy. and people are forgetting about that. he is a convicted felon. convicted felons in our country cannot even vote, yet alone he is on the ballot. how is that even possible? how are we not seeing that? that he is a convicted felon and he is going through the highest office that is here is the presidency? but we all need to stand behind president joe biden at this point now. host: you said you were not sure before. what are your concerns about president biden? caller: well, it was his age. it is not even how he is running the country, it is just more of his age. that is why i wasn't sure. what i have been watching him in the news conference and i'm leaning, since he said he is not coming out, we need to stand behind him, because not voting for anyone puts donald trump in

office. host: that was denise in new york. it was yesterday on "today" that representative jim clyburn, congressman from south carolina, democrat, talked about his support for president biden. here is some of that interview. >> should the conversation about the president getting out of this race, should i continue? >> no. the conversation should focus on the record of this administration, on the alternative to his election, and let joe biden continue to make his own decisions. he has earned that right. and i'm going to give him that much respect. if he decides to change his mind later on, then we will respond to that. we have until the 19th of august to open our convention. so i would hope would spend that

time now focusing on the record we will lay out for the american people, remind the american people of what is in store for them if project 2025 were to become the law in any form. that is where our focus ought to be. >> congressman, again, how is this candidacy or candidate that can remain viable? if you literally have a democrat every day calling on him to drop out of the race. down ballot democrats that are going to be answering questions about the president's mental acuity? how is that a campaign that can be successful? rep. clyburn: joe biden is focused on the future of this country. i always say the best predictor of future performance is asked behavior. let's continue to compare the past behavior of joe biden to the past behavior of his opponent, donald trump.

and let that be a guide to our reactions going forward. i think if we do that we will give the american people exactly what they need to make their choice for our children and grandchildren. it is about whether we are going to have a viable democracy. host: let's hear from michael in oregon. the, michael. caller: good morning. . i would just comment that the airlines require pilots to retire at age 65. there are reasons for that. what you are seeing in biden is he is under stress. he doesn't have the acuity to handle the situation. another comment, the founders, george washington, they would be rolling over in their graves with the knowledge that somebody has been in office since 1972.

i'm 58 years old. i was six years old when this man took office. what you are seeing is, he will not let go of power. and that is a problem. so for all of the comments about trump wanting to anoint himself king, that is what you are witnessing. in addition, this man you just had on interviewing, clyburn, i don't know how old he is, but i think it is ironic you have people like nancy pelosi, who is 84 years old, trying to talk an 81-year-old man into hanging up the cleats because of his mental acuity. finally, this man is not going to have to live with the consequences of his decisions for very long. i'm not saying trump. trump is up there as well. and he has got his problems. this is a reflection of how stupid the american electorate is. we get what we deserve here. so, that is my comment. host: angela in california on the not shoreline.

-- not sure line. caller: good money. everyone is on joe biden to give up because of his age. i'm 64. if social security is not going to be here in 2025, and medicare , that means i'm going to have to continue to work past 70 in order to get my max social security. this is elderly abuse. i as an adult to active services -- why isn't adult protective services protecting joe biden? you are telling me you put trump in office? that means new dog -- snoop dogg can run. that means china can walk in by this country from donald trump. you all are playing a dangerous game here, using age against biden to get him out of office when we have ada, american disability act. i work in private industry.

if the democrats did me like they are doing biden, i would be in hr, i would have them in court. you all are playing a dangerous game going after biden and letting a convicted felon get in that office. i hope snoop run. host: we will go to winnifred in new york, new york, calling on the yes line. caller: hi, good morning. i'm going to vote for biden because, number one, he and caskey the primary -- number one, he won the primary. the war in ukraine, the war in the middle east. he has a plan for the board. he has a plan for social security. he has a plan for health care. he has a plan, he spelled it all out yesterday and he might stumble maybe once but the crowd

was with him and said, we support you, we've got your back. going to vote for him. it is too late. it is only three months left until the election and it is three months until the entire nation, to start over with someone new is ludicrous. i think with age comes wisdom. his whole career was politics. i think he knows what he is doing, and i would not give him up for the other party. and i think it is foolish to try to start now in three months to pick a new person. ok. host: that was winnifred in new york. several callers this morning citing former president trump is the reason why biden should stay in the race. the new york times had an

editorial. the editorial board put out an opinion piece earlier this week. this is the headline. donald trump is unfit to lead. mr. trump hasn't shown a aracr unworthy of the responsibilities of the presidency. he has drate an utter lack ofct f the constitution, the rule of law, and the american people. instead of a cogent vision for the countrs future, mr. trump is animated by a thirst for political power. he used the lever government to advance his interests, satisfy his impulses, and extract retribution against thoshe thinks has wronged him. he i simply, unfit to le the democrats arely engaged in their own debate over whether president biden is the right person to carry the party's nomination, given wide conrn about his e-related fitness. this debate is so intense because of the legitimate concerns that ump y present a danger to the country,

its strength, security, and national character, that it is a compelling democratic alternate is the only thing that would prevent his return to power. we have about 20 minutes left in this phone section, hearing from democratic and independent collars and asking if president biden should stay in the race. robin in california is calling on theo ne. good morning, robin. caller:oomorning, how are you? i am a know because i believe biden is not fit mentay d i believe he needs follow the rules and step do. that is why weava vice president. ife were to have a stroke, letttep in is my idea. i have been listin to folks and i surprised that everybo is in fear about this, because there is a third choice.

people can vote for robert f. kennedy, j there is another person on the ballot in all 50 states and d.c. i'm not sure why everybody is up inrm there are otr oices. but biden, to me, fes like a national securitri. he does. he is not competent to be making executive decisions anymore, and that frustrates me as a te i don't believe we should have unelected people making decisions we elected a president to do. that is my thought. host: sonya in columbia, maryland calling on the yes line. morning. caller: good morning. i'm going to vote for biden. i think he should stay in. when you think about the alternative, to have trump as our president, all trump does is get in his lane, -- plain, though to a rally, back to

mar-a-lago. biden has been out there. he knows what he is doing. yes, he is -- he stumbles. i am 78. i stumble when i'm talking. i think we should leave biden in and get out there and vote. that is all people have to do. just vote so we can have control of the senate, control of the congress, and then you will get the things you want. if you put trump in there you are going to end up with project 2025, and that is something people need to look at and realize what the alternative is. just get out there and vote for biden. if something should happen, like can pick it up as vice president. but the president does not make all of the decisions by himself. he has an administration. he has a congress. he has a synod. and if we vote and take control of all of these areas we will be in control and biden will win

and we will not have anything to worry about. just get out there and vote. do not sit it out. that is how trump got in in the first place. host: that was sonja in maryland. another maryland caller, sarah. good morning. caller: i don't think biden should have run, but he is the nominee and it does not look like he is going to actually step down. but your previous caller had a good point about robert f kennedy would be another choice -- robert f. kennedy would be another choice. we have somebody that is publicly stating he is going to go after people, use the power of the presidency to go after people. is this how low this country has sunk? that this is tolerable to people? we have project 2025, where

people are asked, you know, under a trump presidency to do a loyalty pledge and only conservatives could serve in the government, you know? from what i have seen and heard about that. i mean, how bad can it get? you have a former president under trump, many talked about the military and calls everybody in the military losers and suckers if they gave their life for this country. he did the same thing to john mccain. i find it phenomenal that any republican can vote for somebody like that that would literally consider their fallen daughter or son a loser, you know? why would you give your vote to somebody like that? when you really think about it that is what the communist party in china does. where they go after dissidents or people who do not fall into party lines.

this is how far we have sunk, and the republican party, every time i think we cannot sink any lower in this country, the republican party shows me wrong. and i used to be republican. i cannot support this kind of radicalism with them any longer. i mean, this is scary. host: got your point there. met in somerville, massachusetts says he is not sure. caller: good morning. that was a great call. that was so good to listen to. i said i am not sure because i have three different answers based on the context. if we are talking about getting rid of trump, this miserable, terrible human being who makes fun of pows, by the way, and handicapped people -- and we all know what he thinks about women. if we are talking about that

context, trying to get rid of that human poison from our context here, then, sure, vote for biden. i cannot even believe people are so gullible to vote for trump. i can't believe it. this is beyond ideology, as the previous caller alluded to. i don't care if you are conservative, but if you are going to try to take down the government and lower us all sociologically to the bottom of the trash bin like trump has, just as a human being, can we be good people here? host: matt, the question is, should president biden in the race? why are you not sure? caller: my second answer, if the context personally is me, i would say no. we need to get silent generation and boomers out of power. out of financial power.

when i go to work and i see this boomer guy with multiple assets and incomes and two houses giving me crap when my salary doesn't go up from inflation and they give me more work, i have no sympathy. people are totally disconnected. host: what is your third? caller: what was my third? i linked it up. in the greater scheme here it is we need to get old people out of power. they are financially skimming us as nutrition for their retirement. host: dallas matt in massachusetts. evelyn in chicago, illinois says, yes, biden should stay in the race. caller: i used to be a teacher and i think people need to look at what is going on with the education program and project 2025. the first thing dictators do is

get rid of education and get rid of educators. that way they can control people. that is what happened in america. the education has been down. we need to vote for biden to keep our educational system. and also my second thing is democrats do not know how to fight. republicans know how to fight. they bring an ak-47 to the fight. we bring a piece of paper. democrats. in have to fight. they have to stand behind joe biden if you want a democracy. thank you. host: we have your tweeting and texting this mon. this text from joseph in fayetteville, north carolina. he says, i am an independent. joe biden should stay in the race. suld give vice president kamala harris a chance to grow her popularity.

stew in oregon, ohio says, biden should leave the race. i'm worried, wh would he be like the next four years? he is bad now. and on facebook, guel garcia says, clearly he should not. the republican party wants him to stay. that should answer this question. we in wisconsin on the no line. good morning, ruby. caller: yes, i said no because everybody is against trump, which is ok. but biden is a racist, and i tell you why. in the 1994 crime bill he put all of these black people in prison, destroyed them, and they are still being destroyed as of today. don't take my word. ask kamala harris. she said in front of millions that biden is a racist. but you know why? he will forgive him, but they will not forgive trump. they would sit in church tomorrow praising god, talking about trump being the man that

went with the woman, the point star, yet one fourth or more of our black pastors are going with the sisters in the church. thank you, mama. host: mahmoud in michigan on the yes line. good morning, my mood. caller: the democrats' strategy, compared the biden team to the trump team. if you look at the past trump team concede they are filled up with people with convictions, they are being investigated. and even those who are not, some of the earlier members of his staff after leaving talked about how dumb he is. so, if we broaden the conversation to the team that will do two things. create a larger and better contrast. and then i think that might help open up a possible pivot to a

second strategy that is, by the convention given enough exposure to the team if biden is still not doing well, then that is a pivot to the next leader. but i think by highlighting the team what democrats can do is show the quality of the team is what matters and then show future leadership. with trump there is no future leadership. nobody knows what the republican party is outside of trump. that contrast will be very favorable to the democrats. host: gerald in ohio. good morning. caller: good morning. you know, everybody wants to talk about trump. talk about biden. i have listened to the speech he did last night. and he ain't no better than

trump is. and on our social security -- and on our social security he is not going away with social security. everybody there got raises since biden has been in, they took half of our raise and gave it to medicare. and that is wrong to do that. host: kevin in new hampshire on the yes line. morning, kevin. caller: good morning. i like joe. his cabinet has been good and stable versus what trump had, where he had, you know, a lot of makes up -- mixups in his cabinet and he did not have anyone in there for very long. i think joe is a good, professional politician. i think he has some problems, maybe, with his nerves.

he seemed to screw up a little bit when he was on his debate or gave a speech. and i think he recovered ok, you know? at least on his speech. i don't know what was going on with him with his debate. i think he had a bad night. i think he is a good man and a professional at what he does, and i think that is a big controversy, to -- or, not controversy, but opposite to what trump is. so, i like joe. and i'm not for make america great again again. i don't think maga is the way we should go. thank you. host: just a few minutes left in this morning's question. in this morning's washington post, a free-for-all, they post comments and critiques from readers. one of them is from susan barnes in newport, rhode island.

she notes the headline there is, don't give biden the johnson treatment. she is a 75-year-old liberal and says, the post writers might be too young to recall the last time democrats hounded a sitting president into stepping out of the race, but they should consider how lyndon johnson's withdrawal gave richard nixon -- gave us richard nixon. richard nixon was a crook who's come in committee was preschool antics compared to whom i take the office next. there are patriotic republican lawmakers who persuaded nixon to resign. not one person will represent the gop in congress next year. elections are always a choice between flawed human beings, each of human -- each of whom could form -- send in north carolina on the not sure line. good morning, cindy. caller: good morning.

i am not sure. i'm an independent. but everybody's calling in, and a lot of people are saying in the news and elsewhere about age . i'm 72 and i think it depends on mental acuity. a lot of callers are not mentioning mental acuity. and that is what i am basing. i watched biden. i did not vote for biden. i did not vote for trump. but i like to look at policies. if people would look at policy instead of -- and what has happened the last four years, and all of the line going on on both sides, it is just

ridiculous that we have two men up there, one half is convicted, but look at the cases he has been convicted of. and i think there was some voodoo going on there too, about all of these charges brought against trump. host: cindy, are you going to vote? caller: yes i am. host: do you know who you're going to vote for? caller: no. i don't think it is going to be biden. i don't know about trump yet. i'm just saying, look at the mental acuity. when you have "the view" come on their like whoopi goldberg who says, if he poops his pants i will vote for him. look at the policies these men are bringing forth. host: denita in baltimore calling on the yes line. morning, denita.

-- good morning, denita. caller: i'm going to vote for biden. i think he should stay in the race. i would much rather have a president who cannot find his keys or remember the name of the secretary of agriculture than a president who is going to agree to something with some foreign leader because he thinks he likes him at that moment. also, how are we going to be able to trust anything trump says to us? if he comes out and tells us he said one thing and we find out later he said something else, the ability to lie and the narcissism with donald trump is way more dangerous. there will be somebody there to help biden find his keys. host: and our last caller, and you're in oklahoma city, oklahoma, says, no. good morning, andrew. caller: thanks for taking my call this morning. i want to remind people, a lot of them don't know this,

especially in the republican party, is that inflation is global. trump spent about as much money as biden has. inflation in canada, mexico, france, u.k., germany, sweden, all of these countries had higher inflation then america right after the pandemic. a lot of it is greed. some of it is supply chain. some of it is the oil prices. so it really comes down to it, i am all for biden staying. if he was drooling for them -- from the mouth and on a bedpan he would be a better man than trump. trump's record when he was president, he went golfing over 240 times after telling folks that voted for him he would not have time once president to go golfing. dodged the draft, ran an illegal charity. he is just an absolute shyster conmen. and really kind of a fake christian.