so has every political party. i think there is a lot of change and adjustment. and so it would be interesting to have a current day republican meet one from 1854. they would have a lot to talk about. >> is there anything that is your favorite to show off? mandy: that is a good question. we talk a lot about abraham lincoln and we have cool pictures of him. we have a picture of him when he was presenting the emancipation proclamation. and although he never came here to ripon, we feel connected to who he was and what he valued. we talk about the kind of president he was and what took place in the years of his presidency until his assassination. >> thank you for your time. >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these

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the judge said he was sentenced mr. menendez on october 29. the resounding verdict will almost certainly deliver a final blow to mr. menendez's storied four decade put a coke written great intense pressure for him to leave office before his term expires. senator chuck schumer, majority leader of the senate said in a statement, "in light of this guilty verdict senator menendez must do what is right for his constituents, the senate and our country and resign." here's what the prosecutor in the summa district of new york had to say after the verdict. [video] >> on the u.s. attorney here in the southern district of new york. moments ago, a jury convicted senator robert menendez of corruption and national security offenses. this case has been about shocking levels of corruption. hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes in the form of cash, gold bars, and mercedes-benz.

this was not politics as usual. this is politics for profit. now that the jury has convicted bob menendez, his years of selling his officer come to an end. >> obviously i'm deeply disappointed by the jury's decision. i have every faith that the law and the facts does not sustain that decision and we will be successful upon appeal. i have never violated my public oath. i have never been anything but a patriot of my country and for my country. i have never, ever been a foreign agent. the decision by the jury today would put at risk every member of the u.s. senate in terms of what they think a foreign agent would be. host: senator menendez said he will appeal the sentencing. it is due on october 29. now to milwaukee and the republican national convention.

front page of the washington times. a lot of ink on j.d. vance as he accept the vice presidential nomination tonight. this is the washington times story. vance embraced real trump after breaking through media's lies. "i bought into the media's lies -- i bought into the media's lies and distortions." i bought into this idea somehow he was going to be so different and terrible for our democracy. it was a joke. joe biden is the one trying to throw his political opposition in jail. biden is a one trying to undermine american law and order." there is lots of talk about what he will say tonight about his past position on president trump. the washington post lead editorial. they concluded this.

"there is no mistaking mr. vance's nomination marks a significant turn in republican orthodox. just two years ago, he struggled to raise money during his senate bid because he attacked the gop establishment. he underperformed mr. trump's ohio margin of victory and is candace he required a super pac aligned with senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to spend tens of millions more dollars than planned to hold the seat. mr. mcconnell has been a champion of u.s. global leadership and support for ukraine and a reflection of how far the party has drifted from the values of eisenhower. mr. mcconnell was booed loudly on the floor of the gop convention on monday afternoon when he appeared on behalf of of the kentucky delegation to pledge all its delegates to mr. trump. an hour later, the roaring cloud unanimously proclaimed mr. vance's nomination for vice president." joining us from milwaukee is ruth conniff, editor and chief

of the wisconsin examiner. ruth conniff is a longtime political observer. a longtime friend of c-span. has the republican party changed in your view? guest: there is no doubt about that. i have been to a lot of these conventions. what is notable about this one is how much it's really all about one man, donald trump.you noted there was a unanimous acclaim for j.d. vance. i was on the floor at that moment. i talked to delegates and asked how they felt about the vance nomination. unlike previous years where there were different factions, different groups within the party who were hoping for different nominees and had different positions, the delegates i interviewed really just -- all they had to say was if trump wants him, i'm for him. it was about ratifying trump's

decision. sort of not having any independent position on if they liked vance. it was about donald trump. if you hear that from the podium every night here. it is all about pledging loyalty to donald trump. that one man has taken over the republican party. host: where you think ronald reagan would fit in today? guest: there is always a lot of -- conveniently he receded enough into the past there's not a lot of discussion of the fact he had the largest amnesty for undocumented immigrants in u.s. history, or he represented a different vision than the republican party of donald trump. the party now is not about optimism and mourning in america as one of 8 -- morning in america as ronald reagan was. the theme is injured masculinity.

it is a very deep, populist pitch to people who feel angry. the forgotten men and women of america. people who feel left behind. j.d. vance really represent that message and i expect him to talk about that a lot on stage tonight. host: what did you think about nikki haley and ron desantis's speeches last night? guest: they were necessary. they were the most prominent opponents of donald trump at one time. more nikki haley than ron desantis. ron desantis sounded a lot like donald trump. he has the same kind of insult humor style. he through a lot of red meat to the crowd about joe biden. the weekend at bernie's line that was designed to be the line that lasted from that speech. nikki haley was the last best hope of the opponents of donald trump within the party. for her to pledge her support and try to make the pitch she made was really significant. what she said was even if you

don't agree with donald trump 100% of the time, you should vote for him. not for joe biden. she drew on our foreign policy to basically blame biden for putin's invasion of ukraine, the hamas attack on israel. things that biden did not have much to do with. her pitch is to more centrist, more moderate, more reagan republicans that they should swallow the pill and endorsed donald trump. people were voting for her after she had already dropped out because they saw her as a representative of a different vision for the republican party. she was doing her best to call for unity. she criticized the vice of this. -- divisiveness. the donald trump campaign is the most divisive campaign in american history. she was trying to make the case that in the name of unity people should get behind them. host: you have been to a lot of these. just watching it on tv it seems like a real convention, or an old-fashioned convention. guest: i don't think it's really

real or old-fashioned in the sense there's nothing on the cable to discuss. there is no business being accomplished here. it's a big show. that has been true political conventions for some time. there is rarely -- we don't have contested conventions where you don't know who the nominees going to be anywhere. what the platform you sell republicans -- antiabortion republicans feeling snubbed and angry when trump basically rewrote the platform to take out the very strong language endorsing a national abortion ban. within the wisconsin delegation there was discussion about we must unite even though we are not happy with this because donald trump -- there was an assassination attempt. we need to unite. there were antiabortion groups that are here at the convention who were very angry about that. i talked to a reporter about it. that was not what they were here for. an issue like that is not being hashed out and negotiated.

it's really just donald trump, whatever he wants goes. host: ruth conniff, there's a lot of well-known politicians that may or may not be attending this convention. we are talking with tommy thompson a little later in this program. guest: tommy is here. host: what about the other two? why not scott walker? guest: scott walker is here. he's here. he's been on the floor and endorsed donald trump. he's a strong presence. he makes the case for trump. paul ryan is notably absent. he is nowhere to be found. host: what does that tell you? guest: well, it tells me trump has taken over the republican party. people who once opposed him like walker have seen the writing on the wall. they want to have a future in politics in the party like nikki haley. they will move forward with trump. there are people like paul ryan who have made a stronger stance

against trump and cannot stomach it. they are not participating, not willing to participate. they see him as a threat. they hope for a different republican party in the future. the prospect has really shrunk for the time being. host: what is your take on the democrats in joe biden's future? guest: it is difficult. there is ongoing discussion about whether joe biden should really be the presidential candidate for the democrats. as more time goes by it's more inevitable that is the case. there's already a short timeline after the debate when it discussion started. i think we will see joe biden. host: ruth conniff, what is the wisconsin examiner? guest: the wisconsin examiner is a nonprofit news outlet that covers wisconsin. we are part of a network called states newsroom. we are in all 50 states.

we cover state news. the idea was to move in, fill the gap as state news -- daily newspapers downsize and there are fewer eyes on state capitals were a lot of important policy is made to make sure people have access to news about what is happening in their governments. we are five years old. yesterday was a five-year anniversary. we have an office next to the capitol in madison, wisconsin. we have colleagues across the country that are similarly doing state news and trying to make sure there are reporters inside state capitals and around the states. it's all free, nonprofit, online. wisconsinexaminer.com. host: in your long journalistic career where else have you worked? guest: i worked for the progressive magazine for many years. i was on c-span a lot when i was in washington, d.c.

i have done a lot of freelance writing for a lot of different outlets. i wrote a book about the relationship between undocumented workers and midwestern dairy farmers because they make up 70% of the labor force in the industry, an important note to add to this talk about immigrants at the convention. it is heavily dependent on immigrant labor in the state. there is a close relationship between wisconsin dairy farmers and undocumented mexican immigrants who do a lot of the work here, both with an agrarian past and a sense of having something in common that is worth exploring. host: ruth conniff, editor in chief of the wisconsin examiner. we appreciate you spending a few min's with us. guest: thanks for having me on. host: now to your calls on the political news of the day. dave on long island. independent line. good morning to you. caller: good morning.

i'm calling about the 'i' word after the assassination. that is investigation. we have had an investigation after jfk. it was concluded that a magic bullet was responsible. you know the bullets that can stop and turn right and turn left and make u-turns. that was responsible for kennedy and governor connelly at the time. i would say if your a naive theorist, you have your answer as to what happened. the same magic bullet that got kennedy that is still out there. if you're a thinking person, you could ask if you lied to us then, why should you be believed now whatever you conclude? thank you. host: lester from alabama, democrats line. what politically is on your mind this morning? caller: j.d. vance. host: go ahead. caller: this guy is going to be the vice president of the united

states with less than a year experience. anytime somebody gets around trump, trump always says he put the best people in office. he likes to play golf all the time. we don't have time for somebody to go play golf when you're running the united states as president. j.d. vance. it's funny how these republicans talk about legal aliens. each one, they sleep with one. that doesn't make sense to me. why can't these republicans, mitch mcconnell, donald trump, j.d. vance, tim scott, they all married outside of their race. something is wrong with that picture. you're trying to tell us americans we need to be honorable. host: thank you for calling in this morning. front page of the wall street journal. ignoring gop plan helps trump win over latinos and blacks.

gop leaders concluded -- came up with a plan. the party had to soften it stance on immigration. the party under donald trump has gone in a sharply different direction and laid out by a blue ribbon panel of the republican national committee in 2013 when the party was dispirited after two straight losses to barack obama's multiracial coalition and suffered its fifth loss in the popular vote in six presidential elections. republicans are bracing trump's to get tough on immigration policy which not only calls for aggressive efforts to seal the border with mexico, by the largest campaign in u.s. history to find and deport illegal immigrants. yet trump is drawing more support from latino voters than any gop nominee since george w. bush. current polling shows his support among black voters, if

trends hold until election day, would be stronger than recorded for any republican nominee in exit polls dating back to 1972. let's hear from john in dearborn, michigan. independent line. what is on your mind this morning? caller: oh boy. it is quite a show. it is like a circus to me. i'm sure the dnc will be just as freaky in the coming months. it is leica mezey on a cold meeting -- mezey janik -- messianic cult meeting. he's like a godly figure to the republicans. i think it's funny. they think he's like a renegade against the deep state but he endorsed a total deep state guide michigan, mike rogers. all he wants to do a spy on americans and use fisa and the

nsa and warrantless wiretaps. that is who trump-endorsed. -- trump endorsed. they say they are the party of peace, no war. they might end the war in ukraine but they want to have a war with china. they are putting israel before america. where is america first? israel is coming first here. host: that was john from michigan. brian calling from new orleans, another democrat. caller: good morning. the menendez guy. who is getting all these perks. the people in leadership united states. it's horrible. it's on both sides. got an office. once they get that publicity they forget about the people.

it is horrendous. i'm 53 so i remember president reagan, which i didn't really really like president reagan but he was presidential. to see trump and the people that are following trump who really have good jobs and stuff like that. they have people out there hurting. for trump to be the nominee, i have never seen this. i never thought america would come to this. thank you. host: jim in missouri. republican. good morning. what do you think about the convention so far? caller: i enjoyed the convention. one point i would like to make is the fact that c-span seems to have done a really good job on their coverage. i appreciate your efforts. host: thank you, sir. is that it? caller: that's it. host: we appreciate you calling

in and appreciate you watching. john in michigan, independent line. go ahead. caller: i don't know why these antiabortion people are so upset. project 2025, that already has the antiabortion stuff in it. i wonder if j.d. vance already has a good understanding of the project 2025 and agrees with it. host: what is in project 2025? have you read it? caller: i have written majority of it. i also listened at the convention. host: didn't president trump walk away from that or distance himself from this heritage project? caller: supposedly. you figure a majority of people within the supreme court have come from the heritage foundation. heritage foundation is the main builders of the project 2025.

he figured that the judges and the attorneys are all part of it. they have all made that legal. one that ends up becoming law -- when that ends up becoming law or within the confines of the white house, i don't know what all is going to happen. i'm a little concerned. i think i will be voting for trump to make sure i don't end up in the whose cow -- if his retribution comes across anyone that both are biden might end up in the hooscow. have a wonderful day. host: speaking of project 2025, the washington times. democrats go to milwaukee to warn voters about project 2025. they raised more warnings about the conservative project 2025 agenda. democrats keep clamoring about the conservative heritage

foundation's transition blueprint for the next republican president that seeks to reshape the federal government and install loyalists across the workforce to pave the way for ineffective conservative administration. senator cory booker, new jersey democrat called it frightening. he says it aims to got popular entitlements such as the affordable care act and social security. "when you see with this president did when he was in office, donald trump is trying to end the affordable care at which is wildly popular amongst republicans, independents and democrats." the article in the washington times goes on to say project 2025's main policy goals is restoring the family foundation of american life. dismantling good ministry of -- the administration -- a limiting civil service protections for some government employees and aims to overhaul federal

agencies such as the fbi. it would illuminate the federal department of education. the blueprint also includes long time conservative priorities like slashing regulations and boosting defense spending. it's a sallo -- it seeks to outlaw pornography. it is not tied to any specific candidate or campaign. next call comes from maxine in leavenworth, kansas. what is on your mind this morning? caller: thank you for taking my call. i think the main thing on my mind is to look at the delegates to the republican national convention. it is a sea of white people. that really is all it is. you see a few black delegates. more black speakers or hispanic or asian speakers but their delegates is a sea of white.

that is why i think that they are going to lose. if you take the democrats who are meeting next month, you will see every representative of person that lives in this country. the democrats really represent the public in the country, not the republicans. anybody in the audience watching this convention and see who's delegates -- who the delegates really are, you see who the republican party really is. thank you very much. host: front page of the washington times. black republicans increase in droves. they are talking about the speakers and the number of delegates. there are 2429 total delegates for the republican national convention. of that, 55 are black over about 2%.

hank, south carolina. what is the name of your town on the republican line? caller: patrick. host: it does not say that but go ahead. what is on your mind? caller: thanks for taking my call. i saw this c-span -- theses been people going around interviewing people and stuff last night and the night before. i kept looking for the brownshirts and the punch bowl. i didn't see either one. maybe they didn't show that part where the nazis and the punch bowl with the kool-aid and it. -- in it. they had somebody from columbia there. there was a vietnamese.

there was an indian. there were many blacks. they were not looking at the same convention i was. i was impressed. i really was. thank you. host: one of the people who spoke last night, madeleine brame.

leine brame speaking last night at the republican national convention. carolyn in minneapolis, independent line. what is on your mind? caller: i want to encourage all the left-leaning independents and democratic voters to call their congressperson and their senators to tell them to get behind president biden. it has been three weeks since the debate. it is very upsetting to hear this party is still running around and not unified. that is a reason why i'm not a

registered democrat. they do not stand together. at this time i am hearing everyone as president biden is old. he has accepted he is old. it is time for the party to accept he is old and get behind the candidate, or we will lose. host: in the wall street journal is the article that biden seeks changes for high court. president biden is planning to throw support behind changes to the supreme court. part of an effort to appeal to progressive for month before the election. the president is expected to call for legislation that would set term limits and impose enforceable ethics rules on supreme court justices according to people briefed on the discussions. he's considering backing a constitutional amendment that would limit or overturn the sweeping immunity granted to presidents. biden previewed the plan during

a private discussion with progressive lawmakers over the weekend. such legislation would face significant hurdles without democratic majorities in both chambers of congress. the washington post reported biden was appearing to endorse changes to the high court. the exact contours of biden's planned announcement had not been finalized. the white house declined to comment. the wall street journal, the new york times. schiff warns of big losses if biden stays in the race. adam schiff, california democrat running for senate in california ward during a private meeting with donors on saturday his party was like you to suffer overwhelming losses in november if president biden remains at the top of the ticket, according to two people with direct knowledge of the remarks of the meeting. if mr. biden remains not only would he lose to former president trump, it could be enough of a dragon other democratic party candidates that

the party would most likely lose the senate and miss an opportunity to get control of the house. "i think if he's our nominee we lose." that's according to a transcription of the recording of the event. "and we may very well lose the senate and lose our chance to take back the house." the next call comes from rhonda in kansas city. democrat. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i would like to go back to the lady who said we need our leaders to unite. we need our leaders to stand up behind joe. we are riding with biden. he's done an excellent job. if i was totally his age and able to do his job, i would be impressed with myself. we ignore that. i went to address the fact that 2025 is clearly taking us

backwards. this is not an american agenda. we are totally trying to remove many, many rights that we have fought long and hard for. in taking your own poll, you said let people are coming in droves. you said 2429 -- host: i read a headline. caller: thank you for that correction. 2% is hardly considered -- host: i did the math myself so we could look at it. caller: i want to go back to this whole 2025 thing. they are installing loyalists. we will start firing americans to put in folks who take -- come on. we are still in america. they clearly want to act like gun control is not part of our problem in america. no. i deftly want to stop all this

crazy talk. black folks going to donald trump. this man has done nothing at all for our race. do i need to remind you he put a full took out a full-page ad to try to convict five men who were not guilty? he's been in front of court so many time to be proven he's a racist. i appreciate you letting me voice my opinion. host: here is joe biden in las vegas yesterday. [video] >> just because it lowers the temperature, it doesn't mean we should stop telling the truth. where you are, what you've done, what you will do. that is fair game. has harry truman said, i just told the truth and they thought it was hell. [applause] that is what i'm going to do.

here's the truth about why donald trump's presidency is held for black americans. he tried to repeal obamac are. to take millions of black americans of health insurance. may $2 trillion tax cut that benefited the super wealthy and the corporations. it exploded the federal debt more than any president in one term. we should invest in things that affect people's lives like childcare, eldercare and so much more that grow the economy and help people. his mismanagement of the pandemic was devastating to the black community. i know. in other communities of color. that drove up black unemployment, decimate small black businesses, and you peacefully protested george floyd's murder and he called

that the national guard on you. what the hell is the matter with this man? i'm serious. go figure. from a guy who spread the lies against barack obama saying he wasn't born in america and he wasn't a u.s. citizen. of course, here's what he things of black jobs. that's what he calls him, black jobs. that tells a lot about the man and about his character. folks, i know would've black job is. this the vice president of the united states. [cheers] i know would've black job is -- what a black job is. the first black president in america was barack obama. [cheers] i was vice president to barack.

she is my vice president. host: back to your calls and comments on politics during the republican national convention. whiting, new jersey, texts. "too much rhetoric swirling around. hopefully republicans and democrats will have the sense to tone it down. just talked to the macon people and tell us what your ideas are for fixing some the problems that plague us. that's all. then let us make up our minds." john is a republican from portland, connecticut. you are on c-span and we are listening. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. i want to say i have enjoyed the way c-span has been showing the convention from start to finish without commercials and the other stuff going on from other networks. i want to go back to what president biden said on sunday

after the attempted assassination on donald trump. we have got to calm it down. we have got to cool it off because there is too much rhetoric, as the last caller said. the people should listen to president biden. cool it down, including him. there is too much of this going on and we don't went to see anyone else injured in this country or anywhere. please, to your callers and everybody that listens, please cool it down. stop badmouthing each side. both presidents have their issues and problems. this country has too many problems. we need to get together. we have to keep god in mind. he can help solve this problem in our country. host: we will be covering the democratic national convention in the same fashion gavel-to-gavel the third week of

august from chicago. the city that hosted more conventions than any other city. braggio in joliet, illinois. that i get that first name right? caller: how do you do? thank you very much and good morning. i have been listening to c-span for decades. long ago with brian lamb, etc. it's a wonderful channel for information but i have more general comments. i am 73 years old. retired military officer. i do to get bettors who gets elected. if you look at the political dysfunction in this country, you look at our horrible economic debt, look at one incident from a very serious war worldwide.

i think the public is as divided as we were during the civil war. i think the agreements and the division may likely if people knew the history of germany in the 20's and 30's. they were very headed down a dark road. i will look for a third party because i cannot vote for the democrats and i certainly can't vote for the republicans. i think it's a very sad time in america. i think the matter who is elected americans are going to wake up in the near future and be very, very regretful that they have not participated in their government to a greater degree. i'm sorry to say that. thank you for taking my call. host: washington times political column.

three quick items. ramaswamy subbing in for vance. he's open to the aid of serving in the senate if senator j.d. vance is elected vice president. [coughing] pardon me. second item. gop's steve garvey says he outraised adam schiff in the spring. former baseball star raised $4 million in the second quarter when mr. schiff raised $4.2 million. msnbc host joe scarborough, his show was pulled by network executives in the wake of the assassination attempt on former president donald trump. he said tuesday his bosses can get some wheels to host the show if he's bumped off the air again. three quick items. back to your calls. pat from pensacola, florida. republican.

caller: i want to say that i support trump. these democrats are calling in and are delusional when it comes to biden's mental capacity. if you can't see he is mentally unfit for the job, you are delusional. he couldn't even finish four months alone for more years. --four more years. number two, the fact that our president would demagogue 75 million people because they voted for trump, call us hitler, terrace, maga -- terrorists, maga extremists, it's ridiculous. i have the right to vote who i want to vote for. q democrats badmouth people that vote for trump. you don't hear us talking to democrats to vote for biden.

we say that is your choice. you are an american. that's your choice. how dare you criticize me for who i vote for as an american citizen? you say that on this phone line, you would not they say it to my face in a grocery store or at a gas station. it is none of your damn business away vote for president. host: we will leave it there. how do you think your governor ron desantis did last night in his speech? caller: i think he was outstanding and i wish he had that passion and fire when he was running. that was the most passionate speech i've ever heard him give. i thought it was awesome. host: let's listen to a little bit of ron desantis from last night at the rnc. [video] >> -- host: we will come back to that. brenda from indiana, pennsylvania. caller: good morning. trump supporters have been

saying for years that democrats have hated donald trump since he came down the escalator. i want to tell you what the facts are. i based my opinion of donald trump on what republicans themselves were saying about donald trump in 2015. as a matter of fact, j.d. vance said that donald trump would be america's hitler. j.d. vance said that himself in 2015. host: there is a lot of ink about that and on tv. do you think he will address it in his speech tonight? caller: i don't know. if you go back to 2015, the primary campaign and 15 other republican primary candidates, watch the postdebate interviews

with those other 15 primary candidates and listen to what they say about donald trump themselves and other high-profile republicans had a lot of things to say about donald trump. that is what i base my opinion on. host: thank you for calling in. let's go back to last night and here is governor desantis. [video] >> my fellow republicans, let's send joe biden back to the basement and send donald trump back to the white house. [cheers] life was more affordable when donald trump was president. our border was safer under the trump administration. our country was respected when donald trump was our commander-in-chief. joe biden has failed this nation. as a veteran, i was appalled

when 13 of our service members were killed in afghanistan due to joe biden's dereliction of duty. as a citizen, as a husband and father, i am alarmed that the current president of the united states lacked the capability to discharge the duties of his office. our enemies do not confine their designs to between 10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. we need a commander-in-chief who can lead 24 hours a day and seven days a week. america cannot afford four more years of a weekend at bernie's presidency. host: an extended washington journal during the republican national convention. we will put the phone numbers on the screen. 202 is the area code for all the numbers. (202) 748-8000 if you're a

democrat. (202) 748-8001 if you are a republican and want to talk about what's going on politically in the world. independents, (202) 748-8002 is the number for you to call. if you can't get through on the phone lines and would like to make a comment, try the text number. (202) 748-8003. text messages only for that one. your first name and your city. you can continue the conversation at all times on facebook or on x. margaret in california. where in california are you? caller: burbank. host: a republican calling in. go ahead with your comments. caller: i live one block from schiff's office. we have no representation. i really hope the republicans

take back over the white house, because i have seen trump grow. even though his age, he is growing every day. i see every nationality in the crowd. i don't look at nationality. i don't look at color of the skin. it is what is below the skin that matters. it seems like what trump is picking for the people around him, it is not their skin. it is what is on the inside. i am proud to be an american. i am proud to be able to vote. my relatives, god rest their souls, came in the revolutionary war and fought and were on slave ships and died that way.

for our country. we got into working in law enforcement because i wanted to get back to our country. it is our country. everyone's country/ . if you want to become part of our country you stand in line. people have been standing in line for years. they will never get to the front of the line. host: we appreciate you calling in. gregory in west palm beach, florida. democrat. caller: good morning, peter. welcome back. good morning, c-span family for those who watch it every morning. i have three things i want to mention. it will be quick. the first thing is, i love

america. i think this is the greatest time in the history of the united states that we all are are the dei. the republican party is dei. i talk about it like it's a negative thing. mark robertson, tim scott, owens. one of my young guys done here, donelson. the are an integral part of the republican party. the thing that bothers me more than anything else about this great country is i grew up in jim crow america. i grew up with lyndon johnson taking over kennedy's position and passing the civil rights. all the legislation between that. i don't understand why would you want to go back before all that? during the early years of

america, things like project 2025, they don't acknowledge the fact you give a person opportunity, whether it is a minority or woman, they can exceed. now you want to take that back to where nobody has an opportunity? we had a test right now. you're going to find out what we are made of and that's all i have to say. host: what do you do in west palm beach, florida? he hung up. darn it. let's talk to rob in naples, florida. republican. caller: when we talk about the election we need to talk about the issues. we need to talk about inflation, the border, the wages, the wars, the mental acuity of the president. when we talk about these things that's the most important thing about the country. when i watch biden say one thing one day and they stay he comes

out and says the complete opposite, i have never trusted the man. i used the like him up until he became the vice president. at that point -- not that i am -- i have businesses here. i had many different ethnic groups work for me. not one bone in my body's racist. everybody knows, even the people in congress know about biden's past. he was such a racist. did you see him in that church? he was so uncomfortable. it bothers him he was sitting there. looking around like call the police and get me out of here. the man is a liar. he could care less about his vice president. the guy in south carolina said if you want us to back you, you have to put her in. he didn't want her. he never wanted her.

host: this is the new york times. how democrats will choose a nominee. if biden stays in the race, if biden stays in the race. preconvention, a party convention finalizes rules for the virtual call in the convention. then there will be a virtual nomination vote beginning july 21 going through august 6. a simple majority delegates is required to win. the roughly 4000 democratic delegates are already pledged to mr. biden. it is technically possible but unlikely a challenger could petition to get on the ballot. biden wins the virtual nomination and the national convention is 19 through 22 of august. the states finalize their ballots late august and september. if president biden drops out before the convention,

preconvention, biden steps aside, his delegates are released to vote for another candidate. candidates vye for support. the democratic national convention happens on august 19 through 22. the delegates vote. the candidate needs a simple majority of about 4000 delegates to win the nomination. if no candidate reaches a majority in the first round, about 700 so-called superdelegates can also vote in subsequent rounds. then they go on through. if president biden drops out after the convention, it's the third list here. biden steps aside. the dnc chooses a new nominee. the committee includes a state party leaders and members of allocated by state population will be to select a replacement. then states finalize their

ballots late august through september. the first mail-in ballots are sent beginning september 6. three scenarios laid out in the new york times about how the democrats would choose a nominee. back to your calls. chrissy in maryland. where in maryland? independently. caller: i'm from wheaton, maryland. i don't have as much of a statement as a couple of questions. if i'm relegated to only one, i'm glad it is you. you have a vast knowledge base. three your questions and interviews i know you have got a very analytical mind. i'm hoping if you can help me i will throw the question out there and maybe someone else can answer it. what i'm wondering is, with -- it sounds like jamie harrison of the -- concert with the biden

administration to push up the remote voting so it will leave far fewer time for these people who are objecting to biden. i checked about four or five different sources, not in the same silo. it seems to corroborate. that is what is happening. what i'm wondering is, will it actually come to pass? how can they do something that is so obvious? maybe it is not obvious to people who don't pay attention but they are pushing it up to close in the time gap. host: that was chrissy talking about the potential for the virtual nomination of joe biden. it is due to begin july 21. david, capitol heights, maryland. democrat. good morning. caller: good morning to c-span and the american people.

i want to make two comments. former president trump and the heritage foundation are trying to distance themselves from comments about who they back. on april 21, 2022, the heritage foundation project 2025 endorsed the former president trump. trump accepted the endorsement. also the president of the heritage foundation came on msnbc in june and said they endorsed former president trump. therefore, both are trying to distance themselves from each other and deceive the american people. thank you for taking my call. host: reese in edmond, oklahoma. republican. what is on your mind? caller: thanks for taking my call. i wanted to thank the american

people and everybody for coming out to the rnc. it is so exciting. there is so much excitement around trump. host: are you in milwaukee? caller: i'm in oklahoma. the great state of oklahoma. host: are you an active republican? caller: i am an active republican and enjoying the rnc. i'm excited about president trump. another election. i just hope the american people will get behind and unite behind president about an hour or so. in the meantime, let's go through a couple papers. this is the new york times. this is how democrats will choose a nominee. there are three options. if biden stays in the race, if he drops out before the convention, if he drops out after the convention. this is if he stays in the race. the party committee meets to finalize rules for the virtual rollcall and the convention.

that virtual rollcall would happen between july 21 and august 6. this is the current plan for the democrats, a super majority of delegates required to win. nearly all of the roughly 4000 democrat delegates are already pledged to mr. biden. this turbine wins the nomination, goes to the democrat national convention on august 19 and accept the nomination and appears on the ballot. if president biden should drop out before the convention, his pledged delegates are released to vote for a new candidate. if a candidate wants to be on the ballot, a candidate needs signatures from at least 300 delegates to appear on the convention ballot. it goes to the national convention in chicago, august 19. the candidate needs a simple majority of about 4000 delegates to win the nomination. if no candidate reaches a

majority in the first round, about 700 so-called superdelegates and also vote in subsequent rounds and then it goes on. if it goes to the convention, and president biden steps aside after that, then the democratic national committee will choose a new nominee and the committee which includes state party leaders and members allocated by state population will meet to select a replacement. those are the three options right now for the democrats. let's go to your calls. john in ohio, republican line. caller: hello. i just wanted to make a few points. somebody was saying that trump didn't get reelected because of how horrible he was.

god saw how horrible biden is and that is why he saved trump's life. when people hear stuff on the news, they need to check -- don't take their word for it. i watched the speech where trump said biden allowed china to build a car factory in new mexico and it would be a financial bloodbath of the auto industry and for three days, all you heard was trump is threatening a bloodbath, on cnn and msnbc. you need to check other sources when you hear something on the mainstream media. host: what do you think about j.d. vance being picked as the vice presidential nominee? caller: i voted for him in ohio.

i liked rubio but i have no problem with vance. host: and secondly, you have another senate race going on, if j.d. vance wins the vice presidency. sherrod brown and mark marino? caller: yeah. i think the wine -- i think dewine will get to a point vance's replacement. host: how do you feel about the other senate race? caller: sherrod brown is the worst democrat. he goes along with some crazy stuff that i don't agree on. i think if vance wins and marino loses, i think marino will be the one that replaces vance.

it is hard to tell. host: thanks for spending a few minutes with us. kathy is in columbia, missouri, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. a few minutes ago you were talking about the relevance of january 6, to what is going on now. january 6 for me as one voter is very relevant. i cannot get past it. it does not matter what trump says or does. january 6 is paramount in my mind. since then, i've been reading about project 2025 and it just confirms what i already think about trump. host: what is it about project 2025 that makes your blood boil? caller: it scares me, i think is

the appropriate emotion. host: is there something specific? caller: there are many things. some of it, quite frankly i don't know enough about the internal workings of government to understand it, but i do understand about health care and i understand about education. what they seem to want to do is change our society by changing government, like it is the first step is my impression. they want to overhaul government first. host: is that a bad thing? do you think government is working ok right now? caller: i do. overall, it does work. it is not perfect by any stretch, but a complete overhaul, which is what they are talking here, turn it upside

down and inside out and put a lot of partisan people in positions that -- so they don't question other things that normal employees should as their responsibility, that if someone wants to do something illegal, to at least question it or stop it if they can. they also inject religion, a lot into government -- the next question is whose religion? host: two things. president trump has distance and some -- distanced himself from

2025 and there it to chong and says there is no connection to any campaign. what do you think of those statements? caller: i think he's not telling the truth. i have listened to a lot of rallies by trump. like i said, i have been reading about the project and trump is working the playbook with every one of his speeches. his speeches are very repetitive up to this point. we will see what the assassination attempt does to what he actually says, but but what he says is consistent with what is in project 125. other than the abortion -- project 2025. other than the abortion issue, he is all over the place with that one. i think he will use his playbook if he gets in office. host: are you associated with the university in columbia? caller: i was. i am retired. host: did you teach? caller: yes.

host: thank you for calling in. we appreciate it. washington post, cathy brought this up, charges revised in january 6 cases. federal prosecutors have begun moving to drop charges accusing january 6 defendants of obstructing congress's confirmation of the 2020 presidential election results, offering new plea deals after the supreme court richard to the government's use of that account, according to court filings. some beneficiaries include members of the extremist oath keepers and proud boys who are not accused of other felony offenses but whose leaders were convicted of conspiring to use force to oppose the peaceful transfer of presidential power from donald trump to joe biden. that is in the metro section of the washington post this morning. ronald is in south carolina on our democrat line. caller: good morning.

i am what you call a blue dog democrat. i don't believe in any one person to control the government. i believe in a party with access to multiple people. i would like to hear some of the back room smoke-filled rooms that used to have at conventions where they set up the platform from different states having their opinions, to make things better for their state. i don't see none of that. i see one maga platform, whatever trump says as the endgame. the democrats still push for policy and platform. maybe that is their problem right now. does c-span have some of this, these back rooms where they make these policies up?

host: i think we would all want to have the cameras in there, wouldn't we? they wouldn't be smoke-filled would they? [laughter] we appreciate the idea. ralph in washington, d.c., independent. caller: hi. ever since the assassination attempt on trump, they predicted that. first they tried to destroy his credibility with the mainstream media, with nothing but lies. russia gate turned out to be funded by hillary. then they tried weaponizing the judicial system with all kinds of ridiculous charges. charges without victims like the quote, misrepresentation of funding, and the banks said no we have no problem with it. the democrats wanted to go out and fine him $450 million.

the whole thing was to stop him from running. condon have essentially said that -- pendants -- pundits have essentially said that the next step was to have him assassinated. then we see these people on a roof facing, snipers with scopes that can read the serial number off of the assassins weapon or the attempted assassins weapon from 130 yards and they are sitting on a sloped roof and looking at him and apparently the guy who pulled the trigger was fired because he never got orders to shoot. then they interviewed the head of the secret service and she says they didn't want to put men on sloped roofs. this was a set up. it reminds me of what they did with kennedy. host: are you suspicious? caller: suspicious?

[laughs] you've got all the evidence of what happened. you've got exactly what happened with all the evidence and you've got the left sitting there saying, it was staged. i don't know a man who can shoot at 130 yards and come within half an inch of a moving target. host: i think the hearings in congress are july 23, when officials will be up in front of the committees in congress. donald trump, jr. in milwaukee, at an event sponsored by axios. here he is, talking about hearing about the assassination attempt. [video clip] >> i got a call from kim. she says your father was shot.

we don't have anything else. it was a saturday evening in july, i was out with my daughter. we were actually out fishing. i had to get my family in order. we don't know if it was more stuff going on. police are swarming my house just in case. those people were incredible. they just took that kind of action. it was 90 minutes before i knew he was alive. that was a tough moment. finally, we get him on the phone, considering the heaviness of that moment, it gave me a window for some levity. i asked, most importantly, how is the hair? he says the hair is fine, the hair is fine. a lot of blood in it but it is fine. [laughter] there was. our family is built a little differently, as you probably

witnessed when he stood up in defiance after being shot. these days, everyone is a 'badass'on the internet. when you are actually tested, most people don't rise to the occasion or they wither away. to be shot and to stand up with that kind of resolve, i told him, you are the biggest badass i know. that was my opening salvo. we joked about hair. we actually had some fun. kim and my daughter was there and my ex-wife was there and some of my other kids and eric was on another phone. i will never forget it. that was a heavy couple of hours, that unknown and then you find out everything is ok and you sit down and start seeing

the video and you are watching the news. the adrenaline dump leaves. it was amazing how calm i was in then once it goes. host: that entire event is available online to watch, whenever you'd want. all of our convention coverage of the republican national convention is available on our website. c-span.org. you will see the republican convention. all of the convention coverage plus the additional coverage such as that of -- such as that event at axios, evitable to wah line whenever you like -- available to watch online whenever you like. at 6:00 p.m., we will do a preview of day threef e convention and then the convention begins at 7:00. after it ends, after j.d. vance will be the finalpeaker, accepting the nomination for vice president, we will get your calls and reaction.

henry is in michigan, democrats line. where in michigan are you? caller: i'm in port huron. host: what is on your mind? caller: i would like to make three quick points. first point is, a lady called and asked about the virtual picking of biden as a candidate. the reason for that is because the election laws are so chaotic in different states, they are all different, and they want to make sure that biden gets on every state's ballot. there have been problems in ohio, putting him on the ballot. that is why they are doing that. second point, for the young people who are protest voting because of gaza, we hear you. we know that is a terrible situation and whatnot.

and president biden is trying to do whatever he can. he cannot order netanyahu not to attack gaza. you are right, he should not be providing weapons. i think he is kind of chasing about that and that is going to change. the final point is you came up with a very good question about the dictatorship. how could -- for what would happen if there was a dictatorship, or how would that come about? this project 2025 outlines that. first of all, the unitary executive theory, which is a theory that says all power goes to the executive branch. that means if donald trump is elected, he will have all the power. another point is if you remember during the george floyd protests , donald trump sent out units of the military that did not have insignias on their uniform. they were in unmarked vans, and

they were just snatching people off the street. so control of the military in that style. that will be his style. and the third thing, another thing -- host: let's go back to that point. where could i find that information about the unmarked military snatching people off the streets? caller: you can watch news reports. you can watch all the news reports that happened in oregon, all over the country. there were unmarked vans that were just grabbing people and snatching them off the street. host: all right. and point number three you wanted to make? caller: this third point is discrediting all of the agencies of government. it has already started with the supreme court. the supreme court gave the president immunity from all prosecution. the supreme court took the chevron decision away from agencies. and then you look at the new tammany hall.

people who might not know what to many hall is, it is the spoils system. in other words, whoever wins the election gets to pick the people who fill the agencies. host: you don't think we have that already? caller: in project 2025, they are outlining, specifically saying that they are going to get rid of all of the people who are not currently in federal government jobs in unions, and they will fill them with people who sign a pledge, a loyalty pledge to donald trump and his administration. that is in project 2025. host: we got your three points. we appreciate that. what kind of work do you do in port huron? caller: i am actually in communications. host: thank you for calling and. patricia, minneapolis. hi, patricia. what is on your mind? caller: yeah, i really love to

watch the campaign convention on c-span because no one interrupts. it is just delightful. i have a couple of points. i hope that since you have so much time this morning that you would play it entirely marilyn brame, a woman from new york who lost her son. her speech was one of the most powerful last night. it was beautiful. and then also i hope whoever is president that c-span takes off their dnc hat and covers things fairly. i watched almost religiously when trump was president, and i could not believe how many hours and hours day in and day out, week in and week out, month in and month out, negative coverage of president trump. i am not surprised.

but the coverage of biden has been very, very slim. president trump had done and said and behaved the way biden has, you would have had those things running every single day. so i hope you can become more fair. i hope folks realize -- i know you are democrats. i see that. i see some of the hosts on msnbc, former host on msnbc and cnn. i hope you try to at least be a little bit -- host: do you think that is in play for donald trump? caller: no. no. because they cheat too much in minnesota. there is no way the republicans will win. yes.all right host: all right. thanks for calling in. you mentioned natalie brain. she spoke last night. we will not show you the whole

thing but here is a portion of what she had to say. [video clip] >> my son in korea, afghanistan war, retired veteran. he received enemy fire from the taliban only to be murdered with a knife on the streets of new york city. the four assailants responsible for his death were originally facing justice but that switched with the district attorney. suddenly, two of the homicide and responsible -- homicidal maniacs responsible for my son's death had their charges completely dismissed.

one of them received 14 months time served. alvin bragg charged her with assault. and another one was sentenced to seven years. alvin bragg often dismisses convicted criminals. he wants to clear the jails and return violent felonies onto our streets every day. the injustice was devastating for me and my family. i don't want anybody else to experience the senseless pain that many other victims across this united states of america have to live with every day. just like so many other poor minorities across america. donald trump shares our values.

love of god and family and country. he has been a victim of the same corrupt system that i have been and my family has been. he is committed to providing economic opportunities, helping those suffering from addiction with long-term inpatient programs. rolling back deadly policies that are getting our children killed every single day. and supporting our police. host: we are back live in milwaukee.

day three of the republican national convention convenes this evening. it will be live gavel-to-gavel on c-span as always. we are taking your calls now about campaign 2024. joining us in about 20 minutes or so is tommy townsend, longtime governor of wisconsin, former hhs secretary. talk to him about republican politics and politics in general. this is in the washington times this morning. democrats in milwaukee warned voters of project 2025. democrats visited the heart of trump world tuesday during the republican national convention in milwaukee to raise more warnings about the conservative project 2025 agenda. democrats keep clamoring about the conservative heritage foundation's transition blueprint for the next republican president that seeks to reshape the federal government and install -- to pay the way for an effective conservative administration.

senator cory booker, new jersey democrat, called the agenda frightening. he said it aims to gut popular entitlement such as the affordable care act and social security. this article goes on to say that project 2025's main policy goals are restoring the family as the foundation of american life, dismantling the administrative state, protecting the nation's borders, and ensuring individual rights. it calls for eliminating civil service protections for some government employees and aims to overhaul federal agencies such as the fbi. it would eliminate the department of education. the blueprint also includes longtime conservative priorities such as slashing federal regulations and boosting defense spending. it seeks to outlaw pornography. the heritage foundation has made it clear it is not tied to any specific candidate or campaign. that is in the washington times

this morning. maria, hollywood, florida, independent line, thank you for holding on. you are on c-span. caller: yes, please be patient with me because i do stutter. political science. the remains of 55 u.s. war dead in korea go home -- come home. donald trump, he is bombastic and drives me nuts. i am sick of him. but how many people know that he brought home the remains of 55 from the korean war? 74 years ago, i don't know. they were able to be identified through dna so their families can bury their loved ones. host: maria, i am not trying to

rush you here, but what are we talking about? caller: 55 remains of war returned.from north korea -- returned from north korea. host: was this a news article or somehow connected to the campaign? caller: what i am trying to say is all i want is the truth. since you have the political sciences professor, she would know this. it just defies logic to me that he would bring home the korean war remains of our boys and? to france -- and yet go to france. i just want the truth. that is all i want. he is so divisive. also, the 2025 project thing everyone keeps talking about, he

says over and over and over again he has nothing to do with it. and you have the information there, but you do not let people know that he says he has nothing to do with it. and if he did have something to do with it, i would be outraged. he says it over and over, interview after interview. i wish he was not even running. we need to unite our country. host: that is maria and hollywood, florida. thank you for sharing your concerns with us. cindy, virginia, republican line. hi. caller: hi. so i just wanted to do some comparisons that i think everyone will find factual they keep using -- factual. they keep using, and i know this comes at a great time for them, that trump is a convicted felon. well, maybe in the courts of new york they were able to convict him of a nonviolent hoax.

but with biden, who has allowed tons of fentanyl into this country to kill our children is getting no attacks, no convictions, and there is death that he is guilty of. so those comparisons i think are unfair. but again, politics is. trump has been labeled a womanizer. biden is a child molester. physically shown, visually shown on tv on many occasions. they seem to forget that, which is the most effective. host: let's hear next from wesley in georgia, democrat. leslie, good morning to you.

caller: good morning, peter. i just wanted to make a couple of points, but to follow up that biden is a child molester, how about donald trump being with epstein with a 13-year-old girl? but what i really want to talk about, it was project 2025. a lot of people have covered some of the things i was going to say. but peter, it is an article. it is called project 2025, the birth of the dystopian state of america. it is written by michael, and i do not know if i am saying his last name might so i will spell it, krivich. it is a short article. that way people do not have to read the whole 900 pages. you can get a lot of the meat of what this project is about. and it is with donald trump and

the people who are saying donald trump says he does not even know these folks. well, if you check out a podcast by, i will spell his last name because i may not be saying his last name right, meiseles, and he is part of that midas touch podcast. host: all right, ok. caller: he gave six to seven videos showing how donald trump is the president of project 2025, congratulating each other, shaking hands. roberts saying he could not do it without trump. donald trump saying he could not do it without the heritage foundation. host: thank you for that information. why are you concerned about project 2025? caller: it is going to change

our whole american system for the worse. it will not be for the better, peter. it will be for the worse. you pointed out some of the things that cory booker was saying, but it is also going to privatize medicare. it is going to pack the supreme court and lower courts with maga extremists. it is going to use the u.s. military to persecute antitrust protesters -- anti-trump protesters. why are they putting trump in there if he has nothing to do with it? host: that is leslie. look forward to talking to you in 30 days or so. leslie mentioned changes to the supreme court, project 2025 would bring -- supreme court that project 2025 would bring. biden seeks changes to the supreme court.

part of an effort to a field to progresses less than four months -- progressives less than four months before the election date. it would put term limits and impose enforceable ethical rules on supreme court justices according to people who have been briefed on the discussion. he is also considering backing the constitutional amendment that would limit or overturn the sweeping immunity granted to presidents. biden previewed his plans during a private discussion with progressive lawmakers over the weekend. the people said such legislation would face significant hurdles without democratic majorities in both chambers of congress. washington post earlier reported that biden was preparing to endorse the changes to the high court. the exact contours of biden's planned announcement have not yet been finalized. the white house declined to comment. next caller is bob in wisconsin.

did i get that right, bob? caller: good enough for me. host: no, no. how do you say it? caller: shawno. host: ok. you got all sorts of letters in there that do not make any sound. caller: yeah, just a little bit. it is deep in native american heritage. host: thank you for that. thank you for that. caller: i want to thank you, peter. i want to thank the entire crew at c-span for being in milwaukee this week and us the unfiltered version of the convention. thank you so much everybody there. host: how far from milwaukee are you, bob? caller: from there, about two hours and 45 minutes. host: you going to go down and look around? caller: the security is much too tight for that. i would get as far as the file and that is about it.

host: ok. caller: i wanted to just talk briefly. several of your previous callers brought up about the 2025 project. i am so glad you presented a couple of quotes from donald trump as well as the heritage foundation more or less disavowing any connections here. i have heard people say that is a lie, that is a lie, that is a line. the fact is you do not know that. i am a truck driver. i can tell you first and foremost i have not read one page of that document. as i understand it, it is somewhere in the neighborhood of 900 pages. and i am willing to bet the number of people that have actually read that document feel compelled to talk about it. they either read it through another media filter or wikipedia did some kind of cursory research on it but never have kept it as the previous caller noted, checked it four or five times through sources.

when people call in and they are scared, it is a false fear until you actually know what the document is telling you. i am taking it at face value. that document has floated around as i understand it since the reagan administration. that was back in 1980 and 1984. yet we did not hear about it in 2016. we hear about it today. host: i think, bob, we need to do something about it and find out what this thing is because i have not read it myself. bob, are you driving right now? caller: no, i am not. host: ok, wanted to make sure. we appreciate you calling in. do you drive the 18 wheelers? caller: yeah, i drive 18 wheelers. host: local or across country? caller: cross-country. host: ok. caller: one last thing. if you get a chance, the speech where her dad challenged her to do the homework and then talk about it, i think that was

brilliant. that is what we need to be doing in this country, doing exactly that. thanks for allowing me to speak this morning. host: thank you, sir. amber rose is available online on our convention coverage. you can find all of our convention coverage and ancillary things as well. amber rose's entire speech is available for you to watch. this has been reported. peter navarro has been released from a miami federal prison after completing his four-month sentence for defying a subpoena on the january 6 committee. he is now expected to quickly travel to milwaukee so he can appear at the rnc tonight. let's hear from wickenburg, arizona, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. i would just like to say that i am so disappointed in america. we are at each other's throats

over what? politics. politics is not our life. our lives are our family, our homes, and the people in our communities. we need to come together and be americans again. i am supporting trump. i never voted until trump came into play. actually, i never voted until 2020. and i felt like my vote was stolen because i called and they said you were not registered. i have three voter registrations. i am an independent. i am a first time voter. my vote should matter. anyway, i am just saying i do not agree with the woman at the secret service not being fired. if anybody else, any other president was ever shot at, don't you think the person would be fired who is in charge of the secret service security? host: i think july 23 is when the secret service will be on

capitol hill. and of course, c-span cameras will be out there if it is open to cameras. a big loss if biden stays in the race. representative adam schiff running for senate out there warned during a private meeting with donors on saturday that his party is likely to suffer overwhelming losses in november if president biden remains at the top of the ticket. if mr. biden remained, not only would he lose to former president trump, it could be enough of a drag on other democratic candidates that the party would most likely lose the senate and missed an opportunity to win the house. "i think if he is our nominee, i think we lose," mr. schiff said during a meeting. according to a person with access to a transcription of a recording of the event. and we may very well lose the senate and lose our chance to take back the house. that is in the new york times.

gary is in virginia, republican line. good morning. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i would like to nominate c-span if they added a nobel peace prize. host: ok. caller: the way you let people talk, it is awesome. it really means me. but anyway, i want to call to say, did you know trump derangement syndrome is a bipolar disease? there is a type a, which is what came out first. and that is where you want to polish apples, wear brown lipstick, soccer suits -- sucker suits. and then there is type b, g reason, common sense -- where you accept logic, reason, common

sense. host: that is gary in virginia. let's hear from ed in queens, new york. democrat. hi. caller: hello, peter. oh, brother. i cannot believe that last caller. i cannot believe the other one from virginia either. a lie goes around the world three times before the truth comes out. biden is not a child molester. i believe that story came from qanon. you are going to quote qanon? i am not voting for trump. as one caller said from missouri, january 6 with every thing for me. this man lies like we read i -- like we breathe. i will not believe anything he says. he was having sex with a playboy playmate while his wife was giving birth and this is a man who i will trust and believe what he says? i don't think so. he is a malignant narcissist.

so there is no such thing as tds , trump derangement syndrome. name me one redeeming feature of trump that you like that you respect and admire. i am talking about personality traits. is it honesty? is it modesty? is it fidelity? he does not have any of those things. host: that was ed calling in from queens with his viewpoint. donna is in butler, missouri, republican line. donna, hi. caller: hi. thanks for letting me talk for a moment. i was just curious if you could answer a question for me. a guy before me talking about trump syndrome. i love president trump. he does everything. but what i would like to know is all the lies that people believe about trump. you know, i know they are lines.

if people really kept up with current events, he let a people calling in don't have a clue what is going on in the world. they just hear what other people say, and they go with it. i keep up with it. but i will tell you, why -- my question is, all of this with president trump and the lies and the courts, why has joe biden not been brought to accountability? can you answer that for me? host: what are you referring to? caller: i am referring to everything from the last three and a half years. the afghanistan pullout from him. the border for another. the mass mandates. all of this stuff was all hoaxes and a bunch of bull stuff. we do not need masks, and you still have people out there that are so scared of their shadows that they are wearing masks. i see it all the time at

walmart. host: that is donna in butler, missouri, with her viewpoint. joe is next in toms river, new jersey, democrat. hi. caller: how are you doing? yes, i want to speak about a couple of things, ok? about the woman that called in about project 2025, she did not no one word that was written on that project 2025. ok? she just repeated what all of these liberal channels are promoting to people. it is terrible. ok. and what happened to trump was a disgrace. the fbi, the cia, they looked like the keystone cops. i mean, it was horrible. they said that, oh, i think she was the head of the cia, she said that the roof, that roof, they did not have no worries of

it. you can walk on that roof. you can see it plain as day. they sat that man up. it is terrible what they did. and all of these liberal medias, what they keep promoting, hatred to this country, putting the democratic party against the republican party is disgusting. there is no racism. they are promoting racism. ok? and it is terrible. it really is. host: all right, joe, let's leave it there and move on to william in burlington north carolina. you are on. caller: thank you for taking my call. i have questions about the 2025 project. one is, the last time i checked, some of the writing in this seems to be very sedition is, which i believe is a high treason offense. i am curious as to why some of the authors of this

document are not put in jail and why this document is allowed to exist. host: we are hearing all sorts of bits and pieces about this thing this morning and getting all points of view on it but nobody has read me a sentence from it. caller: one of the sentences i read was the constitution would be eliminated. they would actually get rid of the constitution. host: you really think the heritage foundation would put out a document that says that constitution would be eliminated? caller: that is what i read. it said the constitution would no longer be in play and the executive branch would take over? host: really? caller: the justice department. yes, that is what it says in the document. is why it was disturbing to me. host: the heritage foundation three blocks from our office here put out a document that said the constitution would be eliminated, i think that

would get even further play. caller: i would think it would be considered sedition, would it not? host: private citizens are allowed to speak their mind, aren't they? caller: are they? to me, that is almost like saying we will overthrow the government by doing this. host: william, have you printed out this project 2025, or are you just reading an article about? caller: no. unfortunately, i need to print it out to actually read more intimate. host: i apologize that i have not read it. i have not had time. caller: when i look it up online , all i get is basically articles about it but i have not found the document itself online where i can print it out. maybe i should just go to the heritage foundation. host: i think we have been up on the website. we will put it up here in two seconds. there is. -- there it is. conservative policy through

personnel, victory, and trade. looks like it comes out of the heritage foundation. there it is. i will print it out myself. i have not read it and don't know what it says. utah, republican. caller: hi, how are you today? great, thank you, peter. i hear a lot of people that their hair is on fire. the sky is falling if trump gets elected. it is so silly. it is like we have four years of history of the trump administration and things did not go to hell in a hand basket. people need to relax. if trump gets elected everything will be great. i can afford more products and services. i did not have to deal with high inflation. i realized there was the covid

effect, so so anyway, just wanted to make that comment. thank you, peter. host: thank you. what do you do in pleasant grove, utah? caller: what do i drive? host: what do you do? caller: oh, what do i do? commercial real estate. i help businesses expand. host: are you in the salt lake city area? caller: i am. host: how is business? caller: i am great. host: utah is -- right now, isn't it? caller: it is. it is because we have great leadership and great people who pick themselves up by the bootstraps and make things happen. host: are you a fan of spencer cox, your governor? caller: i am not. host: why not? caller: i think he has come across as being a little too woke.

there are things i appreciate about him, but i am concerned that he is just a little too liberal. host: expected to officially accept the rublican's vice esential nomination. watch his acceptance speech live in the, evening on c-span c-span now or online at c-span.org. announce c-span is your unfiltered view of government. we are funded by these television companies and more, including midco. ♪