♪ host: good morning. it is wednesday, july 24. kimberly cheatle resigned her post yesterday, effective and medially.

she testified, calling the attempted assassination attempt "the most significant operational failure of the secret service in decades." israeli prime minister netanyahu is in washington and will address congress today. is expected to have a one-on-one meeting with president biden, vice president harris and former president trump. we are taking your calls on either or both of the topics. here are the numbers. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. send us your and city and state. clear on social media. facebook.com/cspan, and x at @cspanwj. welcome to the two hour washington journal until 9:00 a.m. when the house gavels in.

let's take a look at speaker johnson yesterday reacting to director cheatle's resignation. [video] >> she must have been watching our press conference. our reaction to her resignation is that it is overdue. she should have done this a week ago. i'm happy to see that. i'm happy to see she heeded the call of republicans and democrats. now we have to pick up the pieces. we have to rebuild the american people's faith and trust in the secret service as an agency. it has incredibly important responsibility of protecting presidents, former presidents and other officials in the executive branch. we have a lot of work to do. the task force will be very important. they have three responsibilities. investigate what happened, the debacle that happened two saturdays ago, to hold those accountable. it was the director cheatle but

there may be others in the line of authority who were also culpable in what happened. finally, to ensure those mistakes do not happen again. the stakes are too high. it's a very dangerous time. we need the secret service to be performing at the top of their game. we will ensure that happens. i hope the interim director, whoever replaces director cheatle will be sober minded about the responsibility and take into account the dangerous times in which we live. we will do everything we can in the house to ensure that's true. i think our task force's work just got more important. host: that was the speaker from yesterday. we are getting reaction. take a look at this headline from the washington post. "secret service encourages trump campaign to stop outdoor rallies." the trump campaign is scouting indoor venues such as basketball arenas and other large spaces where thousands of people can

sit. we want to give you the reaction from president biden. it says this in a statement. "as a leader, it takes honor, courage and incredible integrity to take spsibly for an organization tasked with one of the most challenging jobs in public service. independent review to get to the bottom of what happened on july 13 continues and i look foard to assessing its conclusions. we all know what happened that day can never have again. as we move forward i wm all the best -- kim all the best and i will look to appoint a new director soon." speaking of appointing a new director, that position is not senate confirmed. that could change because according to the hill, seeking senate confirmation.

a bill from the two senators would require senate confirmation for the director of the secret service, paving the way for the upper chamber to weigh in on who should lead the agency. the duo's legislation dropped out the news broke that kimberly cheatle what resigd from the agency following an assassination attempt against former president trump earlier this month. getting your reaction to that. also, prime minister netanyahu's speech at 2:00 p.m. today. matthew up first from dearborn, michigan. caller: i think that was one of the worst scapegoatings of a public official of ever seen. i'm sorry. the supreme court facilitates the ownership of guns as ubiquitous. week spec law enforcement to somehow sort through it all -- we expect law enforcement is

somehow sort the result. they don't take any responsibility. they leave it all on the poor director. host: there was a lot said about having access to the roof so close to -- caller: guns are everywhere. unless you want to put 10,000 troops out there, that's ridiculous. i don't get it. the access to guns. we have open carry. we want concealed carry. we don't want it. people take it to court and win in court. we make laws within they take it to court and the court goes no. the second amendment says you can do this. congress don't do nothing about it. we tried to make laws and they always knock them down. you can carry a gun anywhere just about in the states. i don't understand it.

you expect law-enforcement is somehow, you know, when it's legal to walk around with guns. host: let's go to jeff in massachusetts, independent. caller: i was listening to the congress rake this person over the coals. it sounds like the mccarthy era all over again. where were they when pelosi's husband was beaten up by a hammer? they didn't say boo about that guy. if i was somebody who was interested in law enforcement and stuff i don't think i would everyone to work for the secret service. i can't imagine anybody wanting to protect that jerk. thanks. host: let's look at what representative ro khanna said at the hearing on monday. he's a democrat from california. he is one of several democrats calling for director cheatle to

resign. [video] >> would you agree this is the most serious security lapse since president reagan was shot in 1981? >> yes sir. i would. >> do know what stuart knight did when he was in charge of the secret service? what he did afterwards? >> he remain on duty. >> he resigned. stuart knight was not a democratic appointee or republican appointee. i'm not questioning your judgment. i just don't think this is partisan. if you have an assassination attempt on a president, a former president, or a candidate you need to resign. that is what stuart knight did. he was a republican appointee. he took responsibility. i think you need to reflect. this is not a question of you. it's a question of the american people. you cannot be leading an agency

when there is an assassination attempt on a presidential candidate. i would say that about anyone who is running. my question to you is, what is the difference between your position and what stuart knight did? >> what i will tell you is that i'm dedicated to finding the answers to what happened. like every secret service agent, we don't shirk our responsibilities. i will remain on and be responsible to the agency, to this committee, to the former president add to the american public. >> is there a reason you wouldn't do what stuart knight did after the reagan assassination attempt? >> i believe i have provided an answer. host: the other news, prime minister netanyahu's address to congress today at 2:00 p.m. this is what bob said from illinois.

" bad look for a vp harris to not be on the floor for netanyahu." that's the washington post headline. "harris will not preside over netanyahu's speech to congress. all eyes will be on how harris never gives the issue of the word gaza after the october 7 attack on the country by hamas. she will not be presiding over the address this afternoon according to two people familiar with plans. netanyahu has clashed with president biden over his handling of the ward gaza. she is expected to meet with harris at another point during his visit, however, according to a u.s. official, he's also inspected meet with biden on thursday. he's traveling to indianapolis for a previously scheduled event during netanyahu's speech at her absence should not be interpreted as a change in her position on israel.

harris seeks the democratic presidential nomination. all eyes will be on how she navigates the inflammatory divisive issue. harris's team informed the senate she would not preside over netanyahu's speech even before biden announced he wa longer running for reelection." pete -- by the way, make sure for your schedule that will be 2:00 p.m. today here on c-span and on c-span.org and c-span now. pete in massachusetts, democrat. caller: good morning. i am a big -- i am pumped up about the harris coming on the scene. i'm hoping she will really take this to trump. i'm looking forward to that real burst of energy. regarding the netanyahu visit, i'm an american jew.

while i would like to see israel do well, they are a country that is really lost. he is a pure evil deliver of messages -- deliverer of messages. he's under indictment with many corruption charges. he's just try to keep his coalition together so he won't go to jail. he does not have the best interest of this war other than to stay in power and try to get trump elected. that is the bottom line. obviously, he could care less about the humanitarian piece of this. i'm saying this as an american jew. there are many people like me that feel that way. i find it despicable these republicans are welcoming him with his open arms and a privilege of speaking before congress.

i totally don't blame the democrats for not being there. he is a bad actor. host: let's talk to richard in rockport, texas. independent line. caller: good morning. i don't understand. trump is a multimillionaire. how come he doesn't have his own security out there in addition to secret service? how come he doesn't have bulletproof plastic or glass around the podium when he speaking? -- when he's speaking? that is my question and point. it seems pretty obvious. he's a multimillionaire. he should have some people out there in addition to local law enforcement. host: here is -- we are talking about netanyahu's speech. here is speaker johnson on vice president harris saying she plans to not attend that speech. [video] >> meta-vice president, you say

-- madame vice president, you say you want to be the leader of the free world but you can't sit behind our mustard teacher -- are most strategic ally. i think those are very important questions. i don't have the answers to those questions. kamala harris needs to provide them. how can she expected to be viewed as a leader if she can't to this basic responsibility? it is your duty as the vice president at the acting president of the senate to sit on that roster and host a foreign leader for the joint session. i'm not sure. i have not checked the history books but this may be an unprecedented event, the vice president to decline the response ability. i think it is our greatest. host: we are taking your calls -- i think it is outrageous. host: we are taking your calls.

we will just pause right here to talk to representative nathaniel moran, a republican of texas and a member of the judiciary and foreign affairs committees. welcome to the program. guest: thank you for having me. host: i want to start with your view of vice president harris, her candidacy. guest: i think this doesn't really change much in the election. while we are focused on our policies. there's a very divergent view of appropriate policies in america. kamala harris really embraced and was part of the biden policies. if we talk about those issues and forget about who was the person that's actually running, i think we actually get to what the rug is -- rub is. do we want to continue to have open borders? do we want weak foreign and military policy around the world? do we want to spend without

regard to our debt limits? do we want to impose additional tax and regulatory burdens on the american people? i do think that the direction americans want to go. i think americans want more liberty and more security. they want to have the sovereignty of the u.s. restored. they want a department of justice that is not -- based on their political views. that will determine this election in november. host: former president trump at the convention had said he was calling for unity. he said that is what he would do in the speech. do you think his campaign has fundamentally changed and that he is more interested in those calls for unity and bringing the country together and healing the divide? guest: i think so. for anybody that came as close to death as he did on july 13, it changes -- it has to change a person.

i think we saw that change. he was very introspective about the fact that it was a divine providence that has life was preserved in that moment. frankly, when we were on the delegation for the convention you saw the shift from being just determined to change the direction of america and fight against the policies of the biden ministries and to looking at this as an election of density. it truly was remarkable. you can understand by his tone may have changed. the fact that he selected j.d. vance, who is a fantastic example of living out the american dream, the entire convention you noted a theme of living out the american dream. the working class man, the every man can go from wherever he is to wherever his dreams will take him. j.d. vance is a good example of that. host: several lawmakers including the speaker the house johnson have called on president

biden to resign. mr. johnson says, "if joe biden is not fit to run for president, he's not fit to serve as president." do you agree with that? guest: i've had some questions about his fitness for office for some time. go back to april when i questioned special counsel about his report and the findings he made throughout the last year on some of the mental incapacity issues that were raised during his interviews with president biden when investigating whether or president biden should be prosecuted for keeping those classified documents at his house. during that timeframe i put of the guardianship statute for the district of columbia and said this looks very familiar. the phrase used by the special counsel against the d.c. guardianship statute, there was a lot of overlap. there's been a problem for a long time. that's a question for kamala harris to answer.

she was close to the president and she continued to tell the american people he's fine. president biden is fine. nothing to see here. until of course the bad debate performance when things began to collapse politically. i think it is shameful for the democrats to now jump on this moment as a political move and then to have the party bosses basically undo what 14 million plus democratic voters across the country had done for their political process. that was to nominate president biden. host: the director of the secret service has stepped down. what did you learn during the hearings this week? what should be done going forward with the secret service? guest: the first thing we learned is what led to her resignation. that was she came unprepared to give any answers to what the investigation had already revealed and to what the

problems were leading up to that july 13 assassination attempt on president trump. she was by all accounts from the republican and democratic side one of the worst witnesses ever to present themselves to a committee in congress. she would either deflect answering questions or she would simply just say i don't know. that's unacceptable. the american people deserve transparency and accountability. it had been nine days since the investigation and she gave the committee very little substantive information. i'm glad the speaker and the minority leader hakeem jeffries set up this task force to move forward to do a quick and thorough investigation. i think internally the secret service is planning a 60-day investigation. we are almost at the end of the election cycle by the time we get the reports back. that was on acceptable. we know there were multiple failures on the day determining the perimeter, putting folks where they needed to be, communicating from state and local law enforcement with

secret service, and the response time. lots of questions to be answered that were not answered on monday. host: fbi director ray will be testifying before the judiciary committee today. will you be asking him about the attempted assassination? guest: we want to continue to delve deeper and pick up where monday's oversight committee left off with director cheatle, probing deeper about what they know at this point about the failures and what steps have been taken since then to ensure corrective actions have already been taken in the interim before we get a final report. it didn't take me 24 hours before i started seeing videos and getting information that was very publicly available to understand some of the things i would have done to change the protective services around the president and provide additional

protective services to other individuals engaged in this campaign, including denying protective services. we will press director rey for answers today. i hope he will be transparent and forthcoming on this questions but we will see. host: i want to ask about prime minister netanyahu's speech today. yesterday there was hearings with the families of hostages that are still being held in gaza. do you think the prime minister has done enough to get those hostages released? guest: yeah, i don't know all the things they have done. those conversations and those actions a lot of times haven't behind closed doors as appropriately should be done. from the outside looking in it looks like he's taken the necessary steps, the first of which and most important is to react strongly and quickly to bring justice to those that caused that horrific act on

october 7. hamas should be labeled with the arc, a terrorist organization -- what they are, a terrorist as organization. anyone should be held to account. netanyahu has done that strongly with military efforts. i think he's done that in the most humane way possible. there have certainly been mistakes along the way but i really believe he's gone out of his way to make sure we get those hostages back and we continue to do as much as possible to get the hostages back before the end of this conflict. host: representative nathaniel moran, republican of texas and member of the judiciary in foreign affairs mitty's, thank you for joining us today. guest: thanks for having me. host: we will get back to your calls and social media posts. we have this from sam on facebook. "why is a known war criminal speaki to our members of

congress to begin with? israel's occupation of palestinian triry is unlawful according to the icj. states are required to recognize this and act accordingly. this means not recognizing israel or its leaders until such time tha end the occupati stop the genocide, period. it is shameful he was even allowed into the country." caroline is calling from de soto, texas. democrat. caller: good morning. i have a question for c-span. for the last couple of weeks every morning it was a discussion on white biden was to -- why biden was too old to run for president. today we start out with kamala is running. all of a sudden you're talking about everything else but her. we are not talking about why trump is too old.

asking people is trump tool to run for president -- too old to run for president. i'm confused about the programming. i was told -- we were told last week, well, the reason they were talking about biden was because that was in the news. kamala is in the news this week and you are talking about everything else but her. i would like to know if you going to ask any questions about how great she is and all that. host: what would you like to say about kamala harris? caller: i think she would be wonderful, but that's not the point i'm calling about. i am calling about why you spent two weeks every morning discussing whether joe biden was fit to run but we don't say anything about trump. he's the oldest now. host: let's take a look at vice president harris. she was in milwaukee yesterday

holding a rally. here is a portion of that. [video] >> i'm told that we have earned the support of enough delegates to secure the democratic nomination. [cheers] and i am so very honored. i pledge to you i will spend the coming weeks continuing to unite our party so that we are ready to win in november. [cheers] ours is a fight for the future. [cheers] and it is a fight for freedom. [cheers] generations of americans -- generations. we have to remember this. the shoulders on which we stand,

generations of americans before us led the fight for freedom. and now, wisconsin, the baton is in our hands. [cheers] we who believe in the sacred freedoms to vote will make sure every american has the ability to cast their ballot and have it counted. [cheers] we who believe that every person in our nation should have the freedom to live safe from the terror of gun violence. [cheers] we will finally pass red flag laws, universal background checks, and an assault weapons ban. [cheers] and we who believed in

reproductive freedom -- [cheers] --. donald trump's extreme abortion ban because we trust women to make decisions about their own bodies. and not have the government tell them what to do. [cheers] and when congress passes the law to restore reproductive freedoms, as president of the united states i will sign it into law. [cheers] host: that was a rally from yesterday. just so you're aware, this is cnn reporting with this headline. bob menendez will resign his senate seat effective august 20.

the article says in july he was convicted of 16 counts including bribery, extortion, wire fraud, obstruction of justice and acting as a foreign agent for his role in a years long bribery scheme. it says menendez faced mounting pressure within his own party to resign or face the threat of expulsion from the senate. jim in louisiana, republican. caller: good morning. how are you doing? host: good. go ahead. caller: when it comes to the vice president running for the president's office, i don't think she's qualified to run at all for any office. when it comes to the secret service and nepotism and friendship, she was so unqualified for that job, it's unbelievable. i used to work for the federal government and law enforcement. i have seen things like this in

the past where people that were unqualified get the job. host: all right. dan in new jersey, independent. caller: good morning. i want to complement congressman nathaniel moran for his positions on foreign policy. there is a division in the republican party that has to be addressed and explained as to why president trump and his vice president's designee candidate have taken the position that is contrary to traditional american foreign policy over the last 80 years and fully backing our relationships with nato. we are the strongest country in

the world. it's always best to have allies. they seem to find one reason or another that don't make sense to say that we can't afford it. it's a special, critical time in america and the world regarding the resurgence of russia that has to be stopped. trump has to explain and should tell everyone what his secret meetings and deals were with putin over the years. right now putin knows more about what trump intends to do and possibly what america intends to do in the future. right now it's unacceptable to have a secret plan for foreign policy. that is what i have to say. host: stan in scottsboro,

alabama. democrat. caller: good morning. i am in full support of vice president harris. as far as her qualifications, she's dealing with it is qualified. trump is not. that secret service lady resigned. they made a bad mistake about trump getting shot. we don't want political violence. we don't need things like that happening. i grew up in alabama. i group with george wallace's politics. trump is about the same. the only difference is george wallace recounted. trump won't. vote trump out. god bless america. host: walter in north carolina on the republican line. caller: good morning. please don't cut me off. as far as the rally that trump

put on, i think the government set him up to be killed because they put so much propaganda about biden putting a bull's-eye on him and a couple of other congressman said he needed to be eliminated. as far as kamala harris is concerned, they put her in the position she's into cover up for the loss they have been trying to do against donald trump. i just think the whole democrat party is a sham. as far as the address from -- i can't pronounce his name but him coming from israel. host: netanyahu. caller: he is our favorite ally. it is a dang shame the government is against him on the democrat side. that's all i got to say. host: let's hear from the top democrat in the senate, chuck schumer endorsing vice president kamala harris. [video] >> president biden's selfless

decision has given the part of the opportunity to unite behind a new nominee and boy oh boy are we enthusiastic. we have seen the democratic party swiftly coalesce behind vice president kamala harris. when i spoke with her on sunday she said she wanted the opportunity to win the nomination on her own and to do so from the grassroots up, not top down. we deeply respected that, hakeem and i did. she said she would work to earn the respect of our party and boy, has she done so in quick order. vice president harris has done a truly impressive job securing the majority of delegates needed to win the democratic party's nomination to be our next president of the united states. the vast majority of my senators

quickly and enthusiastically endorsed her. now that the process has played out from the grassroots bottom up, we are here today to throw our support behind vice president kamala harris. host: we are taking your calls for the next 25 minutes. you can give us a call on our line by party. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. jim on the independent line from bellingham, washington. caller: how are we today? host: we are fine. thank you. caller: a couple of names and following information. michael parenti, great american writer and political scientist. a quote from him says, "the difference between the american

government does in the world, foreign policy, and what the citizens of the united states believe it does is one of the great propaganda achievements of all time." we have norman finkelstein who wrote a book called "gaza, a question of martyrdom." they came out well before you texas congressman's october 7 plea. the zionists, not good jews that are not zionists, it was windy and coming jews drove and slaughtered and pushed out of the area in israel, also known as palestinian, many tens of thousands of palestinians and mowing the lawn he points out is periodic killing of innocent

palestinians just to keep of the grand designs of extermination of a race. that is for michael newman who contributed to the politics of anti-semitism. thanks for letting me on. host: let's take a look at part of that hearing from yesterday. family numbers of hostages -- american hostages being held in gaza testified before the house lawmakers yesterday. here is a portion. [video] >> i am keith's wife. i was in gaza for 51 days and i saw everything. i felt everything. we need to bring them back. we cannot allow ourselves as humans to let them go through one more day like i went through. i was starved while they ate in front of me. i was thirsty and did not get

water. i was not allowed to stand or walk or move. most of the time i had to keep silent completely. the only thing we were allowed to do is decide if we could lie on her back or side. that is the only human right we had. we were taken underneath the ground and just left there with no oxygen. i went everyone in this room to think about trying to figure out how to take another breath of air and looking at your husband that you love, that you have been married for 43 years, partly breathing. just praying to yourself let me die first before keith. i don't to see keith dead. we were with people that tortured us, hit us. i saw the girls being beaten. i saw the girls coming after they were touched.

i saw them coming back and were forced to take a shower with the door open while it was the first time anybody -- anybody saw their bodies. we were not allowed to -- these to hide myself when i had to cry -- i used it hide myself when i cried and not let them see i was crying, because you weren't allowed to. most of the time it was so difficult trying to think what more we're going to go through. and with the girls are going to go through. and now i'm here thinking about keith and the girls. it is too much for me to handle. i know where they are and who they are with. i want to ask bebe -- bibi netanyahu.we know it's happening today in israel but we don't know it's going to happen tomorrow. if it won't stop today, it will

get bigger and bigger and bigger. i'm asking you all to please help us. i am begging. we need them out as soon as possible. host: that was from yesterday in the full hearing. it's on our website if you would like to take a look at that at c-span.org. ursula in spring lake, north carolina. caller: good morning. i listen every morning to you all. some of it is absolutely ridiculous. i think what the democrats are doing is underhanded, because kamala harris is not the answer for the democratic party. i think she is near to nothing. she botched the border thing in texas. i know she was down there one time. they took her to a place where she did not see anything about

these illegals coming in over the border. she -- matter of fact, when she had this get together yesterday and they showed it, she did not mention the border one time. i would like to know what she's going to do about the border. i believe she's going to do anything about the border. i appreciate talking this morning. no, she is not the answer for the democratic party. host: sensor a democrat do you have somebody you would prefer? caller: anybody but her. mimi, i'm not for trump. i have voted for the republicans before. i am not a trump woman. bless biden's heart, he's been there for so long and he does that he's done the right thing

-- for so long and he's done the right thing. they need to put somebody else on the ballot besides her. i'm sorry. maybe i'm wrong. maybe i'm too old for all this. i am not happy about kamala at all. host: let's talk to tim in michigan, republican line. caller: good morning. i was calling. i believe that america is going to be heading down the wrong path, which is ok. i think it needs to happen. the kamala harris is going to be the president probably because the evil spirits want that to happen. we can only fight, christians and true believers in god can only fight to try and get that out. a lot of people i believe are tired of thinking we have to

fight for something because god is in control. whatever happens is going to happen. if kamala gets in, we are pretty well done. host: are you going to vote in november? caller: you know what? i don't know to be honest with you, because the fact that everybody is against trump. trump, i believe, divine or whatever you want to say about it. i believe trump is a man like we all are. he can be used for good. i truly believe that. if i do vote it will be for trump. i do have a strong -- struggle with the negative things that

are said about him because i don't see that. i see an opposite. i do know how to say it. it is more of a realistic -- trump would make the better candidate or better president for the fact that he's a businessman. host: got it, tim. chris, independent from philadelphia. caller: good morning at think you're taking my call. -- and thanks for taking my call. i am 100% behind president harris. i'm predicting she will win. i feel like donald trump is too old. he's way too old. it is funny to me how the script -- flipped the script. he has not said a word about that. he had a lot to say about biden and now he's the oldest.

i also feel like all he does is talk about poor him. now he's the victim of the assassination. as far as these republicans calling and saying she doesn't have the experience, i would like to say that the apprentice or whatever his show was, the porn star show, that doesn't have -- what expanse does he have? now he's an old man that needs to go retire on the golf course. the country, the young voters like myself, the under 40, we are for her. get ready for it. it's coming. host: who do you think she should pick as a running mate then? caller: i'm from pennsylvania so i'm all about schapiro. i feel like he brings both parties to the table. he is progressive. we need youngblood. we don't need these old men who hang out at diner counters

whether philosophies on what we should be doing. we need a younger blood. she has got it. i hope she goes with you there schapiro, possibly buttigieg. i think of diversity needs to be there. we are a country of many, many different people. we are not all about god and evil spirits. some of these college need to hear themselves. play the tapes back. they sound crazy. evil spirits running the world. host: got it. this is on usa today about the running mate. the harris campaign vetting at least seven dems for vp. here is the list that includes north colletti governor roy cooper, michigan governor gretchen whitmer, pennsylvania governor josh shapiro, u.s. senator mark kelly of arizona,

minnesota governor tim walz, an illinois governor jb pritzker. stephen is in florida on the line for democrats. caller: first of all i would like to say maybe they ought to mention the fact that the guy that tried to kill trump was a republican. the first thing they want to do is say the democrats are trying to kill him. that is not the case. the guy is a nut job. i'm from jersey. back in 1968i got drafted. i was in the navy. the whole state is ridiculous with the governor we have. you can't turn on the tv without every five minutes there's a political commercial that shows every full dress to backing this candidate. we have a police state going on. the governor formed a police team for the election coming up to guarantee i don't know what except intimidate people. getting back to netanyahu. because all the suppose it

hostages he's holding, i don't believe any are alive. it's been too long. what's to prevent anything from going back to israel, grab more people and have a few more hostages? this thing is never going to stop. the war has to end somehow or another. the guy says he doesn't want to have a two state situation and that's what everybody thinks it should be. woody allen was collecting for palestine. if he's against it, he's never going to change his mind. quit giving him stuff. we don't need him exactly for every intelligence that's going on in the world. i'm sure somebody will come out. if he wants to show his ass and be vulnerable, so be it. i think he's just playing around. host: let's go to chevy chase, maryland. republican frank, good morning. caller: good morning. i'm actually one of these republicans that actually thinks through the issues and takes

more long-term perspectives. as a traditional republican i don't recognize my party and i'm going back immediately to the national campaign speech where the first i don't have any myth was calling for a time of unity -- how many minutes was calling for a time of unity. how long did that last? it is a polarized diatribe, one side against the other just finger-pointing and blaming. we can go backwards on almost every issue. the border issue. obviously a very political contentious issue. what happened to the legislation that was practically, you know, delivered through congress? then it was pulled out at the last minute because apparently, according to media sources, the

trump campaign wanted to use it as a topic, as a political cudgel. covid. again, one million plus people died directly or indirectly as a result of covid because of slow walking. this is where we started getting into masks good or bad. separation, effective or not effective. we are not coming together. it is really sad. you can superimpose this onto even the netanyahu visit. are we a nation of laws that respect laws? are we a nation of laws that -- when you respect laws, just like in baseball, it is the umpire that makes the calls. you have to respect sometimes you win some and you lose some. in the court of international

justice the numbers were stacked against israel. i'm sorry. i agree, they are our ally. sometimes the best friend you can have is the one that actually sits you down and says, hey, you are not handling this very well. host: do you think the lawmakers who decided to boycott the speech were correct in doing so? caller: i believe that is their prerogative. just like someone like me who's deciding to vote differently even though i'm registered as a republican, is it right or wrong? i believe everyone has to take a moral stance. i don't judge any of them because i understand the situation in israel. how far do we have to go back? it has been constant conflict. if you want to look at it from the metric of just october 6 or when it started, yes. that was absolutely a travesty

and just because someone is naively in favor of a palestinian state does not medically make you anti-israel. host: all right, frank. robert in tennessee on the independent line. caller: i've had friends asked me what we can do in regards to the middle east. i would say boycotting israel until israel-palestine becomes a one person one-vote state with equal rights among all the people of palestine and israel, no one wants to see any hostages but we would also like to see cnn or c-span interview former president or prisoners -- former

prisoners or prisoners tortured in israeli prisons. there is a propaganda going on that does not give the making people the full story. boycott israel. host: mike, modesto, california. democrat. caller: my goodness. here i am. i would like to -- drop showed in his service in vietnam. him and his daddy did everything under the sun to keep his sorry butt -- sorry, there i go again. the secret service deal. she's just there in the office. whoever was on the scene made a horrible call. it's terrible and i feel horrible about that family that lost the firemen. -- host: let's go to christine in

new york, republican. caller: my name is christine. how are you? i don't to start with a divisive thing. i'm a republican, a conservative, catholic. i'm tired of the rhetoric from the other side. there are people in this country they don't understand this whole administration has dropped the ball from day one. they put this guy in. he's horrible. i know there are people that call that are on both sides. i have family on both sides of this issue, just like every new york fan it's either a mets fan or yankees fan. giants-jets. same thing. i could care less about the people that call and don't put any facts behind what they say when they call, which is pretty funny.

i don't know. i have a 13-year-old child were all these laws -- i think the other propaganda side. that is how i feel. i don't take it in public. i make sure at least when i confront somebody or see a trump flag or the little twitchy buggy i come out -- eye come out and they can handle it like little children. if people would have kids and families want our generations to advance, these people don't want that. they are all on the take. i don't understand why people would vote for people that are like this. this woman is not backing trump now. i mean, she's not backing israel. she will not meet with them. he came here and there was no one from the administration, from the penguins to down that did not, do anything. and then trump -- host: christine, vice president

harris and president biden are expected to meet one-on-one with prime minister netanyahu while he's here. tina in fort worth, texas. independent line. caller: good morning. i'm calling to say i'm proud of president biden for stepping aside and endorsing vice president harris. i think she has rejuvenated the democratic voters and independent voters. i think that she will also include the younger people. we need to have a younger generation involved in politics. we need their ideas. they have very good ideas. we need to start listening to them and also pass the torch to our younger generation. with the border, i believe that

they had a policy that should have been passed. the border patrol, everybody endorsed it. they passed on that bill because former president trump did not want them to sign it. to me that is their problem for not signing that bill. vice president harris, she has rejuvenated us. we are excited and we are ready to go. host: let's talk to julio in brooksville, florida, democrat. caller: it is julio. anyways, people have got to get together. that's all there is to it. i'm a proud floridian. i heard the guy talking would have bet florida is. go back to jacksonville -- go back to new jersey where you came from.

i hear people talking on the phone to you about the president. they said cut his head off. that's not american. america is retake somebody you choose that will lead this country to victory. everybody is talking crazy. you better look around and think about it. think what we came from. look in the rearview mirror. go on with life. cussing each other and biting each other, i'm 70 years old. my wife goes out riding but we are scared to say anything because you might get shot, because the young generation has not been taught. you guys have a good day. host: sam and florida, democrat. caller: -- in florida, democrat. caller: we checked him out, president trump.

he is stealing money from the saudi's. he did that against international law. he caused october 7 because he did not [indiscernible] hamas did this to the israelis. he's against our intelligence. he has a russian pimp. i'm a republican but i'm sick and tired. i got out of the republican party. we need people to put trump on the site and the congress on the side. shame on this congress excepting the netanyahu criminal. this is a criminal organization. that stupid congress, how can they accept this guy? host: that is our last call but

a lot more to come on israel. we will get a preview of israeli prime minister bennett in netanyahu -- benjamin netanyahu 's speech today with john alterman, senior vice president of the middle east program at the center for strategic and international studies. that is after the break. ♪ >> book tv, every sunday on c-span two features leading authors discussing their latest nonfiction books. we will revisit our 2019 interview with kamala harris who was a senator at the time who is now a vice president and presumptive nominee for president in your discussion about her book, the truth we hold. then at 9:00 p.m. eastern,

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his coalition who are skeptical of reaching a deal. i think his coalition will fall apart if he makes a deal while they are in session. they go out of session for three months starting sunday. what i think he will do is try to show the biden administration that he wants to do it and can't quite do it yet and then he will go back and figure out what he is going to do without the pressure of his coalition blowing up. he will i think try to use some space in try to do something. i am not sure he is going to do as much as people think. what people get wrong about netanyahu's they hear him talk strong and boldly. he has a much stronger cautious streak. he talks boldly but asked very

cautiously. i think you must look at the prospect of stopping the war and thinking about where this goes. i think the is very -- host: he was one of the thousand palestinians in -- released for work one is really soldier. he took years to negotiate that. guest: i don't see the sense of urgency. i see netanyahu being cautious. the urgency is on the international and american and arab side. host: talk more about the domestic pressure that netanyahu is facing. guest: he does not have the approval of most israelis. his approval rating is maybe 20%

or 30% but is perceived to be better than a lot of alternatives. he is perceived by some as real is to be an important block to the creation of a palestinian state, which 80% of israelis don't want to see. i think for a lot of israelis, he is not what they want but he is better than alternatives. he is sort of a least bad scenario right now. there is nobody who seems to be an attractive alternative to him and there is no way to get to an alternative. he is a master at inside politics, coalition building. it is much harder to dislodge him. most israelis are disappointed and most think he will not lead to success but will prevent

catastrophic failure. so they would rather do that and they can't agree on that rather than go for something deeply unknown. host: what is the current state of the war right now in gaza? is it the same as it has been, is that lessened, increased? guest: in many ways it is different because hamas is popping out of tunnels and taking pot shots and ambushing israeli soldiers. hamas is not fighting as an army but is fighting as a guerrilla force. it is much harder to destroy than the israelis thought it would be. the question for israelis is really, what is victory look

what percentage is about taking land and when you take land it is both above the ground and below the ground and what percentage of is is winning at least the acquiescence of the people? the u.s. experience after wars in iraq and afghanistan was to put much more emphasis on the political side, where people are , are people willing to push out the acts of violence. the israelis are overwhelming of the view that they are continuing to win and to degrade hamas' capabilities. the population is turning increasingly hostile to hamas. the amounts you is israel is becoming increasingly isolated. you see protests, thousands is still o i think of that? do you think it would bring down the pressure in the region? guest: i think a cease-fire would bring down the pressure. host: he was saying the release of the hostages. guest: there is eight release of hostages with a cease fire. i think that what people talk about is hamas is a cancer and you have to cut it out and if you leave remnants it will return, so you have to really destroy it. the question then becomes, as you fight it, are you creating a whole set of problems?

are you creating future radicalization? you have children that will be suffering from trauma and all kinds of things that will cause problems for the israelis. there is a legitimate question to what extent do you have to degrade hamas and what extent do you have to provide alternatives to hamas that people can buy into. it is interesting and important that if you look at the israeli press, even now, nine months later, there is no coverage in the hebrew language of the civilian suffering, the impacts of civilian suffering. there is a lot in the international press and a huge amount in the arabic press but in the hebrew language press there is not. there is a way in which we are responding to different realities that israelis continue to talk about fighting hamas and to fight people who are committed to killing us. and for that, you shouldn't

expect them to suddenly turn nice. the international community is saying almost 40,000 people have been killed and there is starvation and polio and all kinds of things and you are just buying into larger problems and future radicalization. i think in many ways the israeli community and the international community are responding to entirely different realities that they are watching and reading everyday. host: if you would like to join our conversation with jon alterman, lines are democrats (202) 748-8000, republicans (202) 748-8000, and independents (202) 748-8002. vice president harris will not be presiding over benjamin netanyahu's speech. using that is a smart idea?

-- do you think that is a smart idea? guest: there is a long history with democrats and i am not surprised. i think it is interesting that both his white house meetings were scheduled for tomorrow. it seems to me there is at least the possibility that people are saying we will see how netanyahu behaves today and there may be some scheduling problems if he doesn't behave in front of congress. there is the sense that there is not a lot of trust and affection. this is a trip that netanyahu jammed the white house on. he was invited by the speaker of the house and the democrats got backed into a corner. i feel like both sides are looking beyond each other a little bit and thinking about how do i help political

opponents. i will do this and do what i need to, but there is a lot of underlying tension, i think, and you will see underlying attention or any number of issues, but more a sense that the united states has really bent over backwards for israel and without a lot of appreciation from the israeli side and they lay that at the feet of netanyahu. and he is saying why are you pushing me on the issue of the. two states -- of the two states. host: what you think of the timing of the meeting. guest: they wanted to do in june but there is a lot with the recess and travel. i think netanyahu is partly

using it to play out israel and say wait until they have adjourned and then three months of breathing room without worrying about his coalition. from a washington perspective, it does not make sense. from an israeli perspective it might make more sense and i think netanyahu is more of a political animal, and essay say that with some admiration. i think he is principally interested in the israeli side and how it helps demonstrate he has maintained u.s. support and has lots of allies here. he will have spoken to a joint media of congress more than any foreign leader in history. i think getting that in the history books for netanyahu is important and important for him back home. host: i want to ask you about the agreement with hamas that got signed in beijing. what is the significance of that? guest: the chinese like to

demonstrate they can bring parties together who otherwise aren't talking. they certainly did that with the salaries and iranians -- saudis and iranians a year ago march. host: will anything change on the ground as a result? guest: i don't think anything will change in the near term. the issue is who governed gaza and is there any role for people who have ties to hamas. i think the strategies will try to burrow into some sort of palestinian organization. the guys in the plo don't trust hamas at all but they see this as a way to get a foothold in gaza. this is just the beginning of what will be a really nasty wrestling match and it is not clear that either the plo or hamas will be in control. there is a plan that sort of

says the former prime minister of palestine leading a government and we will see how that plays out. host: let's talk to callers, barbie is in nashville. caller: since the united states has continued to reward the israeli government for bad behavior, there is something americans can do. it is our right and first amendment right and we are able to boycott in this country. if people are interested in finding out about the boycott movement in the united states, google boycott to vest and sanction. there are -- boycott, divest, and sanctions.

there are a whole list of products that support the israeli government that we as americans can quietly, without anyone knowing, support democracy around the world because israel is not a democracy. it is based on a religion. we in the united states have a separation of church and state. we need to support that in other countries around the world, which israel has never been our true ally. what do we get from them? they do nothing for us except cause trouble. host: let's get a response. guest: the movement is a movement that has a lot of support in a lot of places. i have to say that i am skeptical that the movement is going to win the kinds of outcomes that people want, partly because it feels to me

like it doesn't engage you with the people whose behavior you are trying to change. it makes them feel more isolated and constrained. one of the dangers is the possibility that rather than improving what i think in some cases we agree is israeli bad behavior, you tend to improve it because people think there is nothing left to do. what is interesting is the how we deal with autocratic states and where the largest is one of our trading partners, which is china. i would much rather live in israel than china. i think -- many people would rather live in israel than china . all this is a very difficult to think about but i certainly respect that some people are going to use their dollars to

support other things. israel -- there are people in israel who want it to be a theocracy and want it to be a theocracy. nobody really agrees what it is to be a jewish state. is it a state of people who are of jewish origin, people who practice judaism. this is the tension in israel. it is much less of a theocracy than other places. there is a role for religion but it does not trump everything in israel. host: stanley in staten island, new york, democrat. caller: i think it is a little misleading or your guest to use the analogy that hamas is a cancer and by killing innocent people they would eradicate that

cancer. but to use that analogy is like killing innocent people, you are creating more hamas in a word. i would think that down the road they will be fighting hamas forever. guest: i agree with you. i was telling you what i hear from israelis but i agree with you that the challenge is, if what you do by fighting it is creating people who are thomases -- traumatized, injured, you create a seething sense of anger . there are some people who say i give up but also people who say we are in an existential battle and we cannot afford to give up and we have to keep fighting. the american view after iraq and afghanistan is we have to think

more about hearts and minds and where people are at the end of this. if the israelis are not there. the israelis believe there is something called hamas and you can rip it out or force it disruption and as you say, we are at a point where the devastation both physical and human is massive in gaza. host: tony in st. louis, missouri, republican. caller: i have two questions. last week they targeted in an airstrike and whether or not he was killed they did not know. do you think -- will have to be assassinated before this will end? guest: my understanding is nobody knows whether mohammed was killed in the strike. one of the consequences of the bombs is the bodies in the

strike zone were vaporized. it is my understanding they are doing a lot of dna testing but have not conclusively proven that he was killed. and since he was such an elusive figure, i don't know how you would be clearer if you were doing dna testing that you had the right guy. hamas said he wasn't killed but there has been no evidence of him for several years. i think the jury is still out. the reporting i have seen is he is absolutely committed to the destruction of israel. i am not sure while there are i would think a number of palestinians who are irreconcil sure he is reconcilable. whether he can be marginalized in some way or whether he will

need to go down fighting. i think he wants to go down fighting. i have a hard time believing that he is going to reach any agreement. i think his chances, i would rather go down fighting. host: does feel recently a against the huthies. does that neutralize ships in the red sea? guest: i don't think that does. they are looking to distract the yemeni people from the poverty of yemen which is becoming endemic. the houthies are still fighting. they see it as an elevation.

they say they are defending palestinians but i don't think there is any connection with what they are doing with the palestinian suffering with the palestinian cause. i think so much of what the h outhies is partly domestic but part being iranian backed and saying we don't like the global order and it is unfair. finding a way to get the ho uthies to change their mind about attacking ships. what they do is very cheap and it is expensive to stop. host: and it has been effective. guest: shipping is down 57% in this quarter of the year. host: we have a question from naples florida. he said how is it that the u.k. gets out of the israel

discussion? the british empire of the 20th century was largely responsible but they gave uncle sam the bill. guest: the european view is that the u.s. cooks the meal and europe does the dishes. europeans always wish they were more consequential in meeting the sides to an agreement. tony blair has been very involved in that. i think the british feel they have an idea of how it might be solved and it is maybe a more pro-palestinian view but they just don't feel like they had the juice. the british policy is highly have as much influence on the american so they listen to us. it sometimes works and sometimes it doesn't. host: thick in coral springs,

florida, independent line. caller: the policy towards israel is to basically give them whatever they want whenever they want no matter how many trees they tear up and rip out. endlessly trying to create a so-called jewish state on palestinian land. give them whatever they want and turn a blind eye. is that our policy? guest: i don't think so. you have seen the united states be very critical of the israelis both in what it says in withholding some weapons shipments. we have had a history of the u.s. government being critical of a series of israeli steps and it has created tension especially with netanyahu. i think there has also been a

strong sympathy in the united states for the existence of israel. i think much of that has been in the weighing of a two state solution with them living in peace and security. americans have not figured out how to bring israelis around and israelis have not found out how to bring americans around. this has been what has been in some ways a close partnership and in some ways enduring tension. there is a theory that some of had in washington that the way to get the israelis more flexible is to make them more comfortable, and we certainly saw that during clinton and the british administrations. i think we are seeing a different strain of thought coming from the democratic party . the young democrats are in a

different place than the older democrats are. there is partisan differences over israel and that hasn't been that way for 50 years. i would not begin to predict where it will come out except to say that i do think there are more people who share your view and more people who have the view that we need to support israel but there might be limits and we will see how future presidents deal with that issue. host: john in southhampton, pennsylvania, republican. caller: i agree 100% with the international criminal court, the genocide and mass murder. netanyahu and the defense minister it should in fact be charged. i am surprised with the israeli

haters which is unprecedented. they have done reviews and 65% of the israelis support what has happened in gaza. anyone who has seen what has happened, it is unbelievable. 30% believe they have not gone far enough. and going front of his mass murder and extermination. one thing that was brought to my attention a few months ago, the israeli lobby and the most significant consequential book that has been published in the last 25 years is by a man who was the senior most respected

foreign policy at the university of chicago come in charge of the foreign policy department. host: are you aware of that book? guest: sure, it is an interesting book. the book to my mind is fundamentally wrong because it says the pro-israel lobby was responsible for the iraq war. i think there was much more concerned with iran and iraq. you raise an interesting point and there is a truth that a lot of israelis support what is happening in gaza. but what i said before is a lot of israelis aren't looking at the same images that you are looking at our i am looking at. they are looking at the hebrew press. you can look at a google browser and look at the hebrew press online and translate it and you can see they are experiencing a

whole different discourse than we are seeing. they are not seen pictures of destroyed buildings and starving kids. we can go on and on. i really do have a problem with the genocide claim. genocide is particular and it means you are really trying to destroy a group. while i would argue that there are israelis with genocidal intent and leaders of hamas with genocidal intent, i don't the policy of the government of israel has genocidal intent. i think it has reckless disregard for innocent human life. i think we should be serious about war crimes investigation at the appropriate time. but genocide is different. to me, what i have seen doesn't

rise to that level. there is something a little peculiar that we have had 400,000 people die in yemen, half a million people in the syrian civil war and a half million people dying in sudan, and these wars don't get any international coverage or attention. not to diminish the palestinian suffering, which i think is real and needs a response, but there is also a way in which people focus on israel and israel of misbehavior inappropriately. this is a unique conflict and i cannot think of another conflict around the world that literally billions of people feel so deeply about, that changes both the weight hamas fights in the way israel fights and changes

the nature not only of the war but also how you get to peace. the think that is really hard to keep in mind is everything is true all at once. it is true with the israelis say about hamas. it is also true a lot of what hamas says about the israelis. it is not that we pick a side. we need to say objectively we have to stop this conflict and we have to find a way to encourage people to believe and to prove that two people can live side-by-side. that is a journey we have been on for 75 years and we see much further now than we were at five or 10 years ago. i don't know when we get back to that point which most of us said was not successful.

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guest: thank you for having me. host: wanted to talk about your thoughts on vice president harris's nomination. guest: i am excited for her candidacy. i was concerned about president biden and his ability to continue on with the campaign. when he did down, he was a hero to all of us and then when he endorsed kamala harris to be the nominee, i was ecstatic because i think that she has shown her leadership. she will excite people all across the united states and she will be able to drive out the vote that will make us victorious in november. host: i wonder if you have a personal relationship with her. will you be campaigning with her? will you have an official role in her campaign? guest: i will do anything i can

to support her candidacy. already tonight i will be on a zoom call with asian-pacific islander women to support her candidacy. but yes, i have known her for decades. she started as a d.a. in san francisco. she was a prosecutor and then she became our state attorney general. she has been standing up for the rule of law and law and order and then she went on to become our u.s. senator. she actually was the senate sponsor of my bill to make the mountains a national monument. we have that kind of close relationships over time. host: some of your republican colleagues in the house are

criticizing vice president harris, calling her a dei higher. what do you think about that? guest: they are insulting her vast experience. she has been involved in so many things. in the biden-harris campaign, she has been a leading spokesperson but in the biden-here's administration, she has done so much. she has helped in the passage of the inflation reduction act, which will provide so much relief, especially for seniors and their prescription drugs. she has been instrumental in making sure that seniors will not pay more than $2000 a year for their prescription drugs, nor will they pay more than $35 a month for their insulin. and she will ensure that negotiations in the future for prescription drugs will be in hand.

we don't even negotiate for the price of prescription drugs, even though medicare is the biggest purchaser of prescription drugs in the nation. she has also been instrumental in the bipartisan infrastructure bill with the roads and highways and airports have been declining in terms of their efficiency. but now we have a big infusion of funds that will benefit the midwest, east coast, west coast but all over the united states. she was instrumental in getting the chips and a science act passed which will being semi conductor manufacturing back to the united states and in fact will benefit areas in the midwest and all over the united states and strengthen our economy. host: israeli prime minister netanyahu is addressing both

chambers of congress at 2:00 p.m. will you be attending or boycott? guest: i will not be attending. he should never have been invited in the first place. netanyahu has undermined the prospects for peace in the middle east consistently. at this is a time when we need peace in the middle east. we need to bring the hostages home. we need to stop the killing of civilians, 38,000 people have been killed in gaza. and they are also being deprived of basic food and medicine. they are suffering. we have got to bring an end to this. we have to have a cease-fire now and have to have a path towards peace in the middle east, which i believe ought to be a two

state solution. otherwise, israel will always be under threat of an attack. it is a must the palestinians have a place to go up for themselves that we will finally get to have peace in the middle east. but netanyahu is not providing any solutions toward permanent peace. he should never have brought here because he is simply a divisive figure who in fact wants to continue this work for his own political survival since he is facing criminal indictments in israel. host: you voted against the israel supplemental funding earlier this year. have you been in agreement with the biden administration and how they have handled the relationship with israel? guest: i have been in admiration of the biden-harris movement to try to get a cease fire in the

middle east. they have been pushing very hard on this. this has not been accepted by netanyahu so it has been a hard road. they have been tried hard to get humanitarian aid into gaza and they have tried very hard to get the israeli hostages to be brought home. i agree with that. i agree that israel should have defensive weapons like the iron dome so they can keep israeli citizens safe. at this point in time, i did not agree to sending over 2000 pound bombs so they could kill even more people. the offensive weapons is what disturbed me greatly. i thought that it was completely improper to send over these types of weapons that can do even more destruction and killing. that is why i voted against the supplemental package. host: representative judy chu,

democrat of california, member of the ways and means committee and progressive caucus member. thank you for joining us. guest: thank you. host: we will take your calls. this evening, president biden addresses the nation from the ov office about his decision not to seek reelection. you can watch that live at 8:00 p.m. eastern. we will have it on our p, c-span now, and also online at c-span.org. we will carry it live oou networks if the house or senate are not currently in session at 8:00 p.m. once that gets started. be sure to follow that. as you know, we have been talking about prime minister netanyahu's address and he will be speat 2:00 p.m. today eastern and you can watch that here on c-span and also online at c-span.org and on our app,

c-span now. let's go to the phones to kimberly in virginia, or. caller: -- republican. caller: thank you for taking my call. you had the last speaker on, the man that you had on. i was alarmed by the callers because no one mentioned the people in israel that were attacked and that were slaughtered and mutilated that were raped, older people, children, babies taken as hostages and americans included in that and still many being held. we need to remember, israel is protecting itself and retaliating because of the attack that was put on their people. here is another thing. i think everyone can agree that hamas has a genocidal intent. everyone who backs that, iran,

they make it very clear that they want to completely wipe out israel and the jewish people. someone mentioned a book and i would like to strongly encourage everyone to read a book and that is the bible. the bible makes it very clear what is going on in the middle east and what the jewish nation is and who that land absolutely belongs to. israel absolutely is our ally. that is what is missing from a lot of his conversation. we have to understand, wasn't this attacked the largest on the jewish people since the holocaust? how do you get to peace when there is a group that wants to wipe you off the face of the earth? he has to protect his people. the iron dome did not protect them from the attack in october.

i want to encourage everyone to look deeper into everything going on and see who the allies are. you aren't going to agree with everything every country does what you need to make sure you are on the right side of good and you are not defending the enemy. host: herbert in woodford virginia, democrat. caller: i always like it when you are on. i saw matt johnson earlier on your program today and he said it was unprecedented that vice president harris would speak with netanyahu. when obama was in, netanyahu would speak with him. i guess that is karma. caller: north carolina,

democrat. caller: i would like to clear up some things and point out facts that are being left out from follow the news. nobody mentions in the news today that prior to hamas, one week before that netanyahu sent his forces into syria and killed eight generals of hamas. so that was going to provoke hamas to respond and give justification for the brutal slaughter and destruction of the state of the palestinians. the buildings are bound, the children are traumatized.

it is a mess and thousands of palestinians have been killed and only about two or 300 jewish soldiers have been killed. where is the balance, and i wish the news media it would get their selves together and stop using the pretext of massacre of the jewish concert after the jewish people were kidnapped and it is all on netanyahu who has been indicted and he did this because he tried to get the court to throw out his case that they didn't because a million jewish people stood in israel and stop them from doing that. a lot of things that people fail

to realize is that donald trump and netanyahu are bosom buddies and were both indicted. host: cal in chico, california, republican. caller: good morning. i wanted to bring a couple issues that mr. alterman addressed that i feel are important. i am a veteran of iraq and you develop a sensitivity of help the world looks at you depending on the foreign policy of the people in washington. you will cash the check that they write. i want to say right now that for

the prime of israel to write checks that he cannot cash that will end up being cashed by american soldiers. i want all those people who are listening to the discussion with netanyahu coming to congress. netanyahu if -- if netanyahu continues writing checks he cannot cash and he is dragging this situation in a place where most active soldiers in israeli, according to the last poll they

took, soldiers and reservists on the front wanted to sign a deal, the same deal that our president and secretary of state, they say israel agreed to this in the security council agreed and hamas agreed. netanyahu has a political objective. we are all supposed to drive the policies of the united states and deployed soldiers in 73 locations in syria. we have american worriers, sons and daughters of americans that are in syria acting as a tripwire for israel and the foreign policy. host: chris in mount vernon, new york, independent line. caller: i feel like our elected officials don't represent all of our citizens, whether they

agreed with their politics or not. that is a scary proposition and that is will not what an elected official should be doing. they should be representing all citizens and that is not what is happening now. the biden play is terrifying. he cannot run for president but can still run the government. terrifying. this administration has hidden his cognitive difficulties for years and now the curtain has been lifted in a way. i am only saying this to get some weight on my thinking. we have a historical and fundamental united states had

been attacked like that, we would definitely be in a war right now. and finally from the border. it is not secure. my mother legally immigrated from el salvador and others should do the same. the deep state is destroying our country. they need to end this agency driven government that has no accountability and is stronger than ever. host: steve in grand rapids, michigan, democrat. caller: the reason why i am calling is the fact that donald trump, he agreed with netanyahu to move the embassy over to their side. that is one of the problem why the palestinians started having a problem with it because before

arafat had left, they were trying to get the embassy moved and it stayed where it was at. after that with netanyahu moving that, that started a lot of problems. trump is -- he is -- cannot even put into words this man and how the people are following this man and the things that he has done. even the fact of the matter that he has done all of this criminal things here in the united states and they still aren't following him and calling kamala harris a person who cannot run this country. she can run this country and president biden is still the president and he will see his term out and she will pick up

where he left off. i don't understand why everybody is saying that she cannot run this country. she was the chief dictator of the largest state in this union and i know she can run this united states. host: bruce in hannibal, new york, independent. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wish i could have talked to the gentleman four. he is saying that israel should win the hearts and minds like we did in iraq and afghanistan. the problem with that is the countries, and this is just a strip of land israel is attacking rightfully what happened to them. if we just let them do what they are supposed to do and support them like we are supposed to, this would be accomplished. you cannot live with your enemies sleeping next to you.

and what is going on with the democrats and the so-called front runner who cannot leave this country. they are boycotting the allies and that tells the world, our enemies, look how weak this country is in the leadership. in those people are ruthless, our enemies. they are tough. they are strong in their mind they can defeat us by just telling their people that look how weak they are in this country with their leadership. we should be strong and that is why i support trump. no wars and no gold start families. the woman with the embassy, that has been going on for 60 years.

host: i think she meant the embassy moving to the jerusalem under trump. caller: the democrats have focused too much anger on donald trump. people calling on c-span saying trump is the devil. i have heard it many times and it should not be allowed. democratic politicians say trump is a threat but you cannot be surprised that this is from all the fear mongering. trump should not be the focus from all the hatred from the other side. what did he do that was evil? he wants to build a wall so we don't have immigrants going across the wall, gas prices were lower, we had peace in the world. i think god that trump is alive.

democrats called george w. bush tickler. we need to get back to being civil about our politics and we cannot support violence. the attempted shooting of president trump is a wake-up call. host: that will be our last call for this program. the house is about to gavel in. we appreciate those who called in and participated on social media. we will be back tomorrow morning at 7:00 and eastern. have a great day, everybody. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from