♪ host: good morning. vice president kamala harris announced minnesota governor tim walz was her picture running mate. they held their first campaign rally together in philadelphia yesterday. we are taking your calls to get reactions to the selection of tim walz. here are the numbers. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002.

we have a line set assigned for minnesota residents. that is (202) 748-8003. you can text us on that same line. send us your first name and city and state. we are on social media. facebook.com/cspan. and, x at @cspanwj. we will start with governor walz 's bio. he was elected governor in 2018 and on his second term. he served 12 years in congress representing minnesota's first district. until 2005, he was in the army national guard for 24 years. before entering politics he was a high school teacher and football coach. he is 60 years old and has two kids and has been married to his wife for 30 years. we will take a look at what he said yesterday at the rally in

philadelphia about his background. [video] >> i was born in west point, the risk of. i lived in a small town of 400 were community was a way of life. i spent the summers working on the family farm. my mom and dad taught us to show generosity toward your neighbors and work for a common good. [applause] my dad served in the army during the korean war. with his encouragement at 17 i joined the army national guard. [applause] for 24 years, i proudly wore the uniform of this nation. [cheers] [applause] the national guard gave me purpose. it gave me the strength of a shared commitment to something

greater than ourselves. just as it did for my dad and millions of others, the g.i. bill gave me a shot at a college education. [applause] my dad was a teacher. my brothers and sisters and i followed in their footsteps. three out of four of us married teachers. [cheers] it's what we do. for nearly 20 years i had the privilege of teaching high school social studies and coaching football. [cheers] [applause] including winning the state championship. [cheers] don't ever close the yearbook. but it was my students. they encouraged me to run for office. they saw and be what i was hoping to instill in them.

a commitment of common good. they believe that one person can make a difference. in 2006, i took a leap and i ran for congress. [applause] and because high school teachers are super optimistic, i was running in a district with one democrat since 1892. my neighbors graced me with the opportunity to represent them in the united states house of representatives. [cheers] [applause] i am proud of the work we did there together. i worked across the aisle on veterans issues, agriculture, on ways to grow the rural economy. i learned the art of compromise without compromising my values. host: if you missed the rally, it is on her website in its entirety at c-span.org.

former president trump reacted to this pic on true social. "this is the most radical left in american history. there has never been anything like it and then never will be again. crazy kamala is all crazy. i hear there is a big movement to bring back crooked joe." we will go to willie in annapolis, maryland. democrat. caller: i thought it was excellent with the speech with the vice president and the governor from minnesota. i don't thing to have anything better. my main concern, and i might be off point, but will there be a program in reference to safety? hillary clinton looked like she would be donald trump at them have this conspiracy of interviewing with the internet and that's my biggest concern. i think she will beat trump and

buy a bigger margin than people think. that is my main concern now. cybersecurity at the polls. host: glenn in corpus christi, texas. republican. caller: good morning. i saw the speech harrison walz -- harris and walz gave. it was the biggest bunch of lies. i'll tell you what, if i devote he did when he was in the military, leaving his troops to die, i wouldn't be on that stage bragging about his life. i would be ashamed of his life. the democrats [inaudible] they are going to nail him. if they get to be elected we will be a communist country. if they get to be elected this country is going to hell.

everybody will be broke. host: when you see a communist country, what are you worried about happened specifically that would lead to communism? caller: bernie sanders a socialist person. he pushed these two people to be socialist-communists. bernie sanders said years ago the usa will soon be a socialist country. that means they will be communists. they want to run everything. the voters will have no say on what to do, what to buy. it will be like russia. host: all right. brooklyn, new york. democrats line. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i want to say i thought it was a very good speech. let me say my concern about tim walz. first of all, did affect

swiss decision harris will make about going more left, which i don't like. i think tim walz is a little more left than we want. the look think we know him is as a [indiscernible] he talked about [indiscernible] did not stop the right. i want to say my concern about walz even though i think harris will be a good president. host: stephen is next. lexington, kentucky. democrat. caller: thank you for having me. i'm very happy with the pic. -- pick. republicans are looking at mr. walz. ok, he's not that bad. he's actually pretty good pick. on paper.

trump-vance, kamala and walz are on a piece of paper. trump looks the worst. on the democratic side, great choices. i love it. my wife was a social studies teacher. a teacher on the team is huge. it is a breath of fresh air. republicans, you know you like the choices. you know it is not that bad. you know you want to come to the middle ground. it's actually a great choice. walz is great so i'm happy. host: greg on facebook agrees about the teacher part. "an educator in the white house. perfect." a previous caller mentioned the riots in minnesota. this is in politico. how the summer of unrest barred by george floyd's murder put walz in the spotlight.

trump made the unrest in minneapolis a focal point of his 2020 campaign. "tim walz got donald trump's attention after unrest broke out in minnesota and across the country in 2020. then-president trump blistered the governor for the protest that consumed minneapolis following floyd's murder and for not moving faster to deploy the national guard. though walz's state is not affected to be competitive, the handling of the crisis is likely to be a focal point again." here a gop strategist. "they will be try to throw a bunch of stuff against the wall and see what sticks. the problem that creates is we are on a very truncated calendar schedule. we will see a lot of that throwing stuff against the wall to see what sticks. " brenda, indiana, pennsylvania.

caller: good morning. i think governor walz is an excellent selection. he sounds like it down to earth, decent man. as far as donald trump misspelling kamala harris's name, that is not the lending he misspelled. one donald trump was giving his -- when donald trump was giving his excepted speech of the rnc, donald trump is built the name of the firefighter he was honoring on the back of the firemen's jacket on stage there. donald trump misspelled the firefighter's last name as well. as far as being communist, donald trump is the only one that praises putin and thinks putin is great. thank you very much. host: let's look at a portion of vice president harris from yesterday's rally talking about her plans for the future.

[video] >> this campaign, our campaign, is not justified against donald trump. our campaign, this campaign, is a fight for the future. [cheers] it is a fight for the future. pennsylvania, we fight for the future with affordable housing, affordable health care, affordable childcare, paid leave. we fight for a future where we built a broad-based economy, where every american has the opportunity to own a home, to start a business, and to build wealth. [cheers] we fight for a future where we bring down prices that is still too high and lower the cost of

living for america's families. [cheers] so that they have a chance not just to get by, but to get ahead. [cheers] we fight for a future where we defend our most fundamental freedoms. the freedom to vote. [cheers] the freedom to be safe from gun violence. [cheers] the freedom to love who you love openly and with pride. [cheers] and, the freedom of a woman to make decisions about her own body.

not having her government tell her what to do. [cheers] host: we are getting reaction to the pic of governor tim walz as vp running mate for vice president harris. the numbers on your screen. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. we want to hear from minnesota residents about your governor being picked. the number is (202) 748-8003. we are getting reactions on social media. bill on facebook says he is unaffiliated in from michigan. "makes no difference to me. i'm voting third party. i've had enough of the democrats and republicans." lucritia said, "seeing these highlights of physic, schmitz and animals and kids, kamala harris could not have picked a better got to get the people's house.

they have my vote." derek's reaction is, "meh. should have picked shapiro." bob in fort crane, new york. rob, sorry. caller: i think this man is a radical. he is worse than kamala. he was governor of minnesota when they burned minneapolis to the grant. kamala bailed him out. he pushed for tampa ponds and boys bathrooms, sex changes for minors and drivers license for illegal aliens. it doesn't get any worth the net. the call that say he's a great pick, he's a horrible pick. don't forget when she was running for president she got 1% of the vote and dropped out. she will get even less than that this time. she's a nut job. it cracks me up. every sentence she says -- what a bunch of sheep.

he democrats should be ashamed of yourself. donald trump is the other person who can bring this country out of what we are headed for right now, which is world war iii and -- host: as an independent did you vote for biden or trump in the last election? caller: i didn't vote for either one of them. i voted for a third party. this time of voting for donald trump because i see what joe biden and kamala harris have done to this country. there are 15 million illegals raping and murdering americans. the same thing is happening in the u.k. they are a year ahead of us but they're heading for civil war and several we have we don't turn this mess around. host: joseph in pennsylvania, democrat. caller: yes. i am greedy and i'm really glad shapiro is still going to be governor in pennsylvania. it keeps pennsylvania blue for the next six years. he will serve two full terms and

that is what we want. by not picking kelly, it doesn't remove a democrat from the senate numbers. that is also important. that was a great pick. walz was really a good choice. saw a little of his resume before this. got more in depth as it goes. i can't wait for the debates where we have timmy against jimmy talking about the issues, because i can't understand why james donald vance goes by jd and not his christian name of james. we are going to have tim against jim and the debates -- in the debates. tim will win hands down. host: here is more from the new

york times. walz has faced criticism for his response to george floyd's protests. some believe governor walz should have deployed the minnesota national guard sooner when riots broke out following the police murder of george floyd. he was a little more than a year into his first term as governor when he faced his biggest test. to state already in the throes of the cover 19 pandemic was suddenly in the international spotlight after many laps -- a minneapolis police officer was filled murdering george floyd. looting, arson and violence followed, quickly overwhelming the local authorities. some faulted mr. walz for not doing more and not moving faster to bring the situation under control with the minnesota national guard troops and other state officials. two days after mr. floyd's death, the city's mayor jacob frey asked mr. walz to deploy the national guard.

hours later, the police chiefs emitted a written request for 600 troops but it was not until the next afternoon that mr. walz signed an executor order allowing the guard to assist the city. here is kathy. monroe, michigan. republican. caller: hi. i think the democrats described him as they want in a positive light, just like they do with vice president harris. i do think the truth and that is going to get out. i hope democrats to look elsewhere then cnn, abc, nbc, all that. i want to mention a couple of weeks ago the house condemned vice president harris for failure to do the border control. six democrats voted along with

it. i have not seen any segment on that on your program. i wonder if you can check into that. maybe you can have a segment on that so that would bring more truth to her. i just don't see how democrats can vote democrat. look at the past four years. there was cocaine in the white house. we had hostages in gaza. it is just really been bad. they treated netanyahu bad. they had topless women at the white house. they are for transgender. host: ruth in texas, democrat. caller: good morning, mimi. host: go ahead, bruce. caller: ok.

do you feel the fresh air blowing in the air right now? that was probably one of the better picks kamala could have done. i live at the border. i know all about the border. i have been living at the border for over 30 years. i know all the different little issues and not one person can be in control of one border. it takes everybody to be in control of the border. it takes vigilance. it takes being aware, staying alert, stay alive. i feel a breath of fresh air coming into the democratic party. what a wonderful pick. i don't want to take too much of your time. i want to express my feeling about go kamala, go. host: our previous caller was asking us about the house vote. here is information on that.

this is two weeks ago. politico. half a dozen dems join gop condemning harris's work on the border. six democrats back to purely symbol a kelce resolution. republicans used a slim majority on thursday, july 25, the target vice president harris. some democrats back to the effort. the house resolution criticizing harris for her work on the border. the vote was 220-196. it has been identified as a key line of attacks as they pivot the election strategy to harris. let's hear from vice president of nominee jd vance on his reaction to tim walz being picked as vp. [video] >> obviously the big news of the day is that tim walz has been nominated as the vp, thor is now the presumptive nominee i should say for kamala harris.

my view is it just highlights how radical kamala harris is. this is a person who listened to her own party and selected a nominee. this guy has proposed shipping more manufacturing jobs to china. who wants to make the making people more reliant on garbage energy and of good american energy. has proposed defining the police as kamala harris does. it's interesting. they make an interesting tagteam. tim walz allowed rioters to burn down minneapolis in the summer of 2020. it is more instructive for what it says about kamala harris. she doesn't care about the border or crime. she doesn't care about american energy. she doesn't care about the americans who have been made to suffer under those policies. host: we are getting your reaction to governor tim walz being selected as kamala harris's running mate. scott on facebook. "not a good pick. nor was vance. it probably balances out."

this is amy from palm coast, florida. independent. caller: good morning. i am thrilled about the selection of tim walz as the vice president of candidate. i just -- hello? host: i was going to say why is that. go ahead. caller: he truly is a man of the people. we have not had a populist president in over 50 years. vice president. anybody on the presidential ticket, we have not had anyone like him for 50 years at least. everything he has done for education, providing free school lunches to children. what he has done for workers. he improved working conditions for amazon workers.

he's very pro-worker. that is great. that's what we need. he did the police brutality reform after the george floyd riots. he is somebody that does take action. he does what is best for his people. i would like to touch on the whole trans thing. i know republicans want to fashion for this. -- bash him for this. he made minnesota a sanctuary state for families that were trying to get help for their children. in republican states like florida, maybe utah, probably texas, the state cannot only take your child but they can jail you for getting gender affirming care for your child. all he did was make minnesota a

sanctuary state for people that wanted to have gender affirming care. probably the same thing for abortion as well since we will have women having to flee their states in order to get reproductive health care. i just think kamala has done a great job. she has brought the entire democratic party together. we are just going to smash these project 2025 authoritarians in november. host: here is more information about that, what amy was talking about. from the st. paul patch, what's it about governor tim walz's controversial tampon bill. tampon, pads and other things must be free in public schools. it says some of the most progressive laws in minnesota's

history or passed in the last two years during the period when democrats held the trifecta and state government. one lot requires public schools to stock mistral products and all girls and boys bathrooms at no charge to students. the bill went into effect january 1. the products must be available in restrooms regularly used by students in grades 4 through 12. steve in pennsylvania. republican. caller: i'm steve. thank you for taking my call. i think it's a great pick. i'm a republican. i think is a great pick because it shows the contrast between the two parties. i think it's an incredible deal. every american will have a choice this november to choose where you want this nation to go.

do we become socialists? are we a democracy? that is all i have to say. thank you very much. host: derek. laurel, maryland. independent. caller: good morning. it's a great day. i'm excited about was happening in the democratic party, although i am a lincoln republican who had gone over because i'm not going back to a convicted felon. i'm not going back to an adulterer. i'm not going back to a fraudster. i'm not going back to someone who claims to understand economics and had so many bankruptcies. i'm not going back to the empty promise republicans. i'm moving forward. i am so challenged by every time a republican gets on this line, all they can do is talk about the worst, the worst. if the country is about, why don't you move out of the country? host: when you say you're not

going back, had you voted for mr. trump in the past? caller: yes and i'm not doing it again. host: why did you vote for him? caller: i thought -- it appeared to be a change. it appeared to be breaking up the system. what it turned out to be was just one seeking out riches for he and his children. folks over to talk about his children and how many riches they gain from this. -- gained from this. it's been really disappointing. the rioters at january 6, we forget about that. lives were lost. property was damaged. our sacred building was violated. i can't forget that. the first time in history a confederate flag is in our capitol. republicans have short memories. very short memories. you can't say you stand for this

country, that you stand for the constitution and you stand for the military. i from a military family. that is not with military folks to. i mr. lee disappointed in what i've seen. i hope that answers your question. host: westchester field, new hampshire -- west chesterfield coming after. --, new hampshire. caller: governor. isz a down-to-earth choice --governor walz is a down-to-earth choice. he will work with everybody to try to get things done. i have to push back on a few of these things. some of the -- that left republican guy that came on was spot on. he truly was. donald trump is a felon. talk about cheap -- sheeple. people blindly following him around of the time. our lasix presidents have had problems with the border. nobody seems to be able to get

it fixed. at least the democrats came up -- democrats and republicans together came up with an idea to send stuff to the border. there was no other earmarks in that bill. it was all stuff that would have gone to the border, would have helped ease the border and more judges, more of everything the border needed to help make things safe and keep illegal drugs and migrants -- illegal migrants out at that point. no. they just wanted the issue. they don't care about fixing the problem. yeah. no moral standards, ethics, values in the republican party right now. when you start at your campaign like donald trump did the last time that he ran for president by asking one of our biggest adversaries, russia, for help against your opponent, that is not a good sign.

talk about communism. elect a republican and that is what we will have this country, communism. thank you. host: mike is a republican in palmetto, florida. caller: thank you for taking my call. i think it is all in the script. i have asked my friends that are democrats and republicans, who did you vote for in the primaries? a few selected individuals in the parties selected the candidates to be running. i don't think that is really fair. i'm not going to vote for either. i don't know if i'm going to vote for chase oliver. i am tired of both parties, because you have to have conflict in both parties. we are not looking at the real issues. whoever becomes president, i respect them because they're my president no matter what. we have to look at where we

denied voting -- were we denied voting in the primaries? i think we were. the independents and independent voters and so forth, you know, there's always a third party. if we keep looking at the people in there and how they got there, by a very few, low percentage of individuals in that party, is that really a democracy? that is my question. thank you for taking my call. have a beautiful day. host: a bit of news for you from the primaries. this is the new york times announcing that cori bush, a squad member and a vocal critic of israel loses her primary. her defeat is another loss for progressives in a race defined by democratic divisions over the war in gaza with pro-israel groups pouring millions into a campaign to oust her from

office. going back to our story about governor tim walz. here he is from yesterday towards the end of the rally. [video] >> we have 91 days. by god, that's easy. we will sleep when were dead. [cheers] -- we're dead. [cheers] over the next 91 days and every day in the white house i will have vice president harris's back. every single day. [cheers] we will have yours. [cheers] you know how this works. we can't do it alone. we need each and every one of you. [cheers]

go to kamalaharris.com, get on board because we need you. free to make our own choices. this leader, this compassionate, careful, joyous leader believes in each and every one of you. [cheers] my god, you came here tonight because you love this country and you're not going back. [cheers] she believes in the opportunity for every single person to join the middle class. she believes in the promise of america. we just have to fight. as soon to be president harris says, when we fight, we

went! -- win! host: lancaster, virginia. mary. caller: good morning. i would like to say i am thrilled that vice president harris picked governor walz for her running mate. we all get so sick and tired of the bashing from the republican party about who do this and who did not do that. i think if we could build some industry in central america and mexico to have these people produce a product instead of sending money to the middle east , all they want to do is have a good life. if they can have a good life at home, perhaps it could solve the crisis at the border. once again, we have been running

the budget all of our lives. it is about time we put a woman in the white house to run the budget. thank you, dear. host: have a good day. adam in jersey city, new jersey. democrat. caller: i'm really excited. i think trump is semi-fascist. he's a terrible person. you can't win an election in opposition. i'm excited to pick tim walz mostly because of what he's done in minnesota. when you talk to somebody at a bar, they will not be talking about banning books or some trans person in the bathroom or something. they are worried about the cost of living. his push to make it easier to raise a family in minnesota is fantastic. family medical leave. you shouldn't have middle class people take off when they have a kid. it should be everybody. i think it's a huge thing. i hear people calling in saying

the democrats are socialists. well, if giving kids lunches at schools to make sure they have the food in their bellies to make sure they can learn is socialist or communist, then call me lenin. walz-harris 2024. host: willie from north carolina, independent. caller: i am calling to say i think the pick is irrelevant. most vp picks don't really have a whole lot of impact. i was at one time a democrat from california. the kamala harris record itself is what has made me register as a republican this time around. i'm actually not even sure i'm going to vote for trump, because trump is trump. at the same time, kamala harris is kamala harris. the walz does not help. in the black community hurts or

because of the george floyd situation and how he mishandled that and bungled it and cost, neglect businesses destroyed? those were not upper-class or illegal. for even middle-class businesses. they were generally businesses in the black community. this race thing, i think both parties are race baiting and a horrible way. kamala harris uses it as a utensil aura magnet which she may or may not have legitimate claim to. donald trump uses it as a divisive thing. i was a democrat out of habit. like most black people my grandparents finally got in 1964 the vote, they went democrat. even though my history lessons taught me the wig party was the party of slaves. i went past that is a learned things.

now we are at a stage. as far as immigration, she failed. let's face it. not only her. she failed miserably because she never wins. trump had a draconian policy but it was at least effective. for the lady that thinks everybody is coming from south america, no. look at the watchlist. there were over 3000 encounters with people from china, the middle east. some of them they arrested and then re-released. these other problems i think our country is facing. these are the issues. not personality attacks. both parties are actually lost on the issues. i'm stuck. thank you. richard host: -- host: richard, republican. good morning. caller: the caller from north carolyn to make more sense than pretty much anybody -- north carolina makes more sense and

pretty much anybody i've listened to today. i wonder why democrats -- i have family that are democrats. i'm republican. the only reason i'm republican, i was in the navy for 25 years. if you vote democrat you don't get no pay. if you vote republicans, you get paid. i wasn't making the money anyway. i made like $70,000 a year. host: that sounds strangehost:. someone checking your party affiliation? what do you mean to get paid if you're a republican and you don't get paid if you're a democrat -- democrat? host: the republicans cut the military down to nothing. there is no money for us to get a raise. host: you are saying lawmakers cut the budget? the defense budget? got it. when republicans are in there i

get more money per month. you understand? that ain't my call. my call is about kamala harris and this clown. we -- kamala harris, something i never thought i would learn in this country. she's the only one that could ever teach me this. i know now that with the money we spend with the illegal aliens and all that going on we could have -- we could have put everybody on the streets in this country in a house. that's all i got. host: we got this on text from dan in florida. "he changed the minnesota flag to an islamic flag. not good." we have been seeing that claim. we looked it up. here is what we found. this is snopes.

here is the claim, that governor tim walz changed the state flag of minnesota to closely resemble the national flag of somalia. that is false. here's the background information on that. minnesota's old flag centered the state seal which featured a white settler telling land and an indigenous man on horseback on a blue background. indigenous minnesotans, including the lieutenant governor peggy flanagan said the seal and state flag were insulting to their heritage and attempted to erase the historical record of settlor inflicted violence against native american groups. meanwhile, others noted the old flag broke several principles of good flag design. anyway, in 2023, the legislature created a commission to redesign the state flag and seal. according to minnesota public radio, it took 10 attempts in the legislature to pass a bill calling for a new flag and a new

seal. walz signed the bill into law. that was the only party played in creating the new flag. the commission received more than 2500 redesign proposals before choosing its top six designs, then whittling it down to three before finally making the selection. the design featured three horizontal stripes of white, green and light blue with a navy blue stylized outline of minnesota shape on the left side and an eight pointed star, not to the state's motto, the star the north centered in the outline. that is the information about the minnesota state flag. dan in georgetown, massachusetts. independent. caller: thanks for having me on. i think we are pretty correct in

saying these two anointed people , one, kamala, who through the true democratic process got handed the torch. she chose governor walz. the big problem here is usually to get chosen for these positions you have to do something. you have to do a favor or something. during the summer of love when kamala harris supported violence and tim walz supported the violence, not only did he support the violence, he did not enforce the law while it was happening in his state. so much to the point that president trump was threatening to bring in the national guard because he wasn't doing

anything. the beginning of summer of love hatched in his state because he decided not to prosecute anybody and let things burn. we have two completely radical people in here. the other radical thing he does is he supports child abuse. i don't how anyone on this planet can say that confusing children about sex and gender and then allowing minors to take physical actions to change their gender or sex as a minor, i do not how anyone can get there. he signed it as an executive

order. we are talking about two extremists. that were never voted in at all. host: this is frank from texas. republican. caller: yes ma'am. i would like to say this walz guy, i agree with the caller that just got off the phone. from massachusetts. i could not agree with him more. this walz guy is one sick guy. anybody that put tampons for a fourth grader voice, that's the most ridiculous --boys, that's the most ridiculous thing. when you're born a man, you're a man. when you're born a girl, you're a girl. that is the end of it. that is the way the lord god wanted. as far as harris goes, she believes in abortion right up to the day of birth.

you had great african-american women, christian women like condoleezza rice, candace owens, tamika hamilton. i could name a lot of black men that are christian. byron donalds. a lot of good christian black men and women. yet the democrats put this communist woman up there that wants to abort babies right up to the day of birth. and this guy that is kind of a freak guy that wants sex changes for little sixth-graders and fourth-grader tampons. that is just sick. this guy is unbelievable. i would like to also say about

iran put a fork on trump. why did they put out a death wart on biden or harris? they are getting everything they want from biden and harris. billions and billions of dollars. they lifted the oil sanctions. trump put oil sanctions against iran. they couldn't do nothing. they couldn't buy a candy bar and a candy store. same with russia. trump aide sanctions on them. they could not sell their oil. what did they do? when biden got in, biden lifted the oil sanctions. they got billions and billions of dollars because they could sell their oil, russia was. same with iran. what did they do? iran starts attacking israel, and they just got through attacking our bases overseas. hurting and trying to kill our soldiers. we have 42 americans dead,

murdered in the gaza strip. and then what happens is we don't send no delta people, no seal team. israel is fighting and trying to help us fight and get our hostages back. hostages we still have over there. biden and harris -- she got up and criticized israel. they are try to post their tales to get -- bus their tales to get our hostages back. host: i have to move on. let's look at a portion from senator j.d. vance talking to reporters on the plane. [video] >> have you and governor walz reached out to each other? >> on the way to the flight in

cincinnati and northern kentucky i called tim walz. i left a voicemail. i say congratulations and i look forward to a robust conversation, enjoy the ride. maybe he will call me back or maybe he won't. >> the governor and vice president harris are to the on about a grand stator. president trump will be [indiscernible] until friday and montana. -- in montana. >> i'm making appearances to drive from the fact that kamala harris's policies have been a failure for normal americans. the president is busy in the next few days. you have to get out there and speak to people and reporters. you have to raise the resources. the president is busy doing that. we are taking a divide and conquer strategy. sometimes we do events together but we have two people that can get out there and prosecute a message. i want to make one final observation. i know most of you, like all of you as people, or like the ones of you i know.

i think you guys have got to do a better job at forcing kamala harris to answer questions. this is a person who's been the presumptive nominee for 16 days. she has not taken a single real question from a reporter. the american people deserve to get to know the people who want to lead them. i think it is shameful for kamala harris and increasingly for the media she's taking a basement strategy of running from reporters and said of getting in front of them and answering tough questions about her record and that the megan people know who she is. president trump and i take hostile questions, nonhostile questions. we talk to people. we respect the megan people enough to want to persuade them and not to try to run from them. i think you guys have to do a better job. that's my humble opinion. host: james in akron, ohio. democrat. caller: i have a couple of things to say. that last call you had, i don't know where they get their information from. it is pitiful to hear these guys call in and talk about what kids

are allowed to do. every state in the country, these kids cannot have the operations, the surgeries or any of the stuff done without the consent of the parent. all the stuff they talk is crazy talk. what i called about was this. everything we are taught as kids, how to treat others, how to be -- don't do things to others you wouldn't want done to yourself. all those things we are taught as kids, that makes you a liberal. to be a conservative it seems like you have to hate everybody. something is always wrong. we are always up against some enemy. just like the border situation. the republicans have never wanted to solve the border crisis.

as far as the border crisis is concerned with so many people crossing the border, even right now the less portable -- last border bill they lied and set 5000 people a day. no. after you had interviewed or retained 5000 people, they would stop letting people cross, period. they would not take any more candidates. there's no 5000 people getting in a day. they know it is not in there because their guide with the built. one lie after another. i'm tired of hearing the constant lying and badgering about people for the very thing they taught us from k-12 grade that was ok. after that, you have to hate people and be nasty towards

everybody just to be a republican. look at the callers that call in. the things we were taught as kid, boo the democrats. how to get along with everyone else that was democrat. to feed the poor, help the homeless. those are all democrats. republicans turned 18 or 21 and they think you have to be hateful to be an adult. that is the most insane thing i have ever heard. host: let's go to steve in indiana. democrat. caller: good morningcaller:. i would like to call in. i watched kamala harris last night with tim walz, introducing him as the new running mate for her. i would like to say the word to describe this is jubilance.

people do not forget it. the word is jubilance. let's keep it alive. we have 90 more days to beat donald trump and possibly have the chance to make him pay for the crimes he has committed. well enough on that. people need to step back and realize if you are not indigenous, if you are not trapped on a swamp of land that the government imprisoned you want, you are not an american. you are an immigrant. my grandfather was an immigrant from sicily in 1924. i am proud to say that man came through montrealers, canada, and was a whop. a very derogatory term without

papers. now. all these people that are coming from venezuela, centmerica, mexico, they are fleeing murderous dictator states. just like mussolini was running at the end of world war i. into world war ii. we cannot suffer these atrocities again. please, please, please america, do not let donald trump near the white house. the situations with george floyd, terrible, terrible. he did nothing for racial injustice. he let police go wild and murder citizens in the streets. gun violence.

you have uvalde, the shooting in las vegas, all under donald trump. the hate that this man bringsamerica, stop it now. jubilance. host: this is tony in sugarland, texas. "the newsweek article on walz titled "abandoning his unit when his unit was about to be deployed," what leadership." the new york post has something about that. " tim walz left the national guard battalion hanging, slithered out the dough before a reactive limit, according to that's -- the door before iraq deployment." veterans accused him of embellishing his military career, highlighting the vice president to pick never served in combat and retired from service ahead of his unit's 2005 deployment to iraq."

james, california, republican. caller: i am retired u.s. navy. i'm african-american. my question is will you turn this country over to kamala harris? she's pulling at 39% with men. tim walz. i heard nothing from him that would make you want to go for kamala harris. the democrats have been terrible with the economy. i had to pay seven dollars a gallon for gas in california a couple of times. when trump was in office i spent three dollars a gallon. america, do the host: jackie in hollywood, florida, democrat. caller: good morning. host: good morning.

caller: i have been following the election. host: your lying is breaking up. if you don't mind just trying to call in on a better line. lou in henderson, nevada. caller: think you for your patience. you put up with a lot on the mornings i listen to you. i just wanted to say the border is a big problem because 2.2 billion people are living in drought. we just to see people invading our country. south africa has been in a drought for so long.

as far as the choice of a vice president, i think it takes a lot of courage to name someone who is apparently such a criminal according to the other team. the vitriol that is going on both sides is not helping anyone. as rodney king put it, "can't we just get along. help -- and we just get along?" host: who are you going to vote for? caller: i have to vote for harris. my parents grew up under coolidge and wilson and then of the seven roosevelt was there president for 12 years. they grew up under fdr's whole thing. and then the only choice in los

angeles was white, white. everything we saw happen in california from day one was racism and horrible schools in the cities and voting against black and i saw the destruction in los angeles where people like hattie mcdaniel had rooms because they were abandoned. everything was obliterated. host: we have run out of time. up next we will have national review editor in chief rich lowry, who will talk about vice president harris selecting

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c-span, 45 years and counting, powered by cable. >> "washington journal" continues. host: we are joined by rich lowry, the editor of a national journal and the national review.com. it is national review. let's start with your reaction to tim walz being selected as kamala harris's running mate. guest: i was shocked that it wasn't josh shapiro who was popular in pennsylvania according to the latest polls. this is an absolute must when battleground and it is hard to see how trump or harris wins it without it and how they put together the electoral map.

i don't think you would have delivered pennsylvania to her but 10,000 votes could be decisive in pennsylvania and the entire election. part of the reasoning seems to be being trouble to be second fiddle but she went with him and you need to feel comfortable with your running mate and apparently she felt more comfortable with him. a lot of of energy. clearly comfortable talking to a crowd and seems to be human and has a of humor. that is the upside for them. i don't see how choosing someone from minnesota will help in michigan and pennsylvania. but ideologically it makes no sense pit she has gone out of her way to diss about nearly

everything she said in 2019 and 2020 when she was running for president and after the killing of george floyd and he still believes it now. it is a left wing picked and the most left wing ticket you have probably had in american history and the only thing comparable will be roosevelt and wallace but it was entirely a different democratic party then. there is a reason republicans felt relieved as much for much of yesterday which is one of the few times they have had anything good to feel about. they feel they dodged the shapiro bullet. host: the huffington post has a headline, donald trump claims tim walls will unleash hell on

earth and he posted the words thank you. what strategy do you see the trump campaign and playing now? guest: they will portray the ticket as dangerously liberal, the phrase they used in an addict last week on the border and more generally. it is a phrase someone in the 1990's but it is basically the right approach. attack them for being way out of the mainstream and to progressive and when harris disavows it, you attack her for being phony. the advantage she has come at the rally it felt as though she had the enthusiasm but she won no votes in a primary or caucus

but she had that kind of enthusiasm because it is such a relief that biden is off of the ticket but she did not have the scrutiny that comes with going to the small town hall meetings. where you can't hide from voters and there would've been scrutiny from her opponents and she would've had to do interviews and there would have been a hostile litigation of every of her positions and any change of position would've been a big deal and she escaped it all and just went at the end where they are hiding her from the media and keeping her on teleprompter and hoping it works and is so far it has at least in bringing the party back home which is the reason this race is at least tight end probably will be had by the end of the convention. host: if you like to speak to rich lowry, republicans (202)

748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, independents (202) 748-8002. you mentioned that kamala harris has not done interviews in the past two weeks but what would it be that once she starts doing them, what is your one question for her guest: -- for her? guest: what happened and why did you change on the eight things you said in 2018. were you fooling us then and you had to sound like bernie sanders or are you fooling us now. usually in a presidential race late may change on one thing but she changed on eight things and we have not heard words and it has often been statements from

staffers to the press. it has not been discussed because she changed so many things at once. that is what i would hone in on. host: you have an article in the national review called "the perils of politics as a trolling." can you expend what you mean and what your point was in the article? guest: it has to do with events. the cat lady, and the negative things he said about people who don't have kids really broke through and has hurt the ticket for his image and he really had a family value that wasn't unpopular but sold in an obnoxious way because in that senate primary he ran in ohio trolling and being controversial

and offensive and instead of just saying i think families are important and kids are transformative and many more rather than less, he emphasized the other side of the coin and was negative about kids who don't have kids and that style of politics worked for him in that context but we are in an entirely different context now. i do and he had his own event in philadelphia and people talking about the struggles during the biden years and he gave remarks and took questions from the press and said asked me anything and he did it very well. here's talented and glib but those marks have come back to bite him at least from the initial going. host: would your recommendation to he and former president trump

to stop the trolling and negativity and focus on the issues? guest: sometimes there is a place for negativity and there is nothing wrong with being harsh about people. in a big democracy would have arguments over important things. i am not saying that but obviously the issues are trump big advantage. he doesn't score well with the temperament but on who is going to help you financially and the cbs poll that had a raise tied over the weekend, trump has an almost two to one advantage over harris on that issue. 25% make -- think she will make them better off in 45 believe trump will make them better. the border he has a huge lead as well. these are the two main vulnerabilities of the biden record. this is another aspect of the

case he should be making against her. obviously an effort by the democrats to make this a future versus the past or new versus old race. and he needs to say, she is not so new and has been part of the administration that most think it is failed. she represents the past because she wants to be seen on this road that has not worked so far. that is not the case he has been making. his rallies, the signature event, you can have a rally were you give an hour and 15 minute speech and an hour and it 10 minutes of it can be on message but five minutes not and that is what everyone will focus on is that is what happened at atlanta a couple of nights ago. it is not like he spent the whole night attacking governor brian kemp and his wife but he

spent a little time and it is all anyone was talking about. host: i want to show you a harris campaign ad about the border and get your reaction to it. [video clip] >> kamala harris supports investing in new technology to block fentanyl from entering the country. donald trump block funding for technology to block it. kamala harris supports money to stop human trackers. donald trump stopped money to track them. kamala harris got them sentenced to prison and trump is trying to avoid being sentenced to prison. there are two choices in the election come one who will fix our broken immigration system and the one who is trying to stop her.

host: your reaction to that? guest: i think that ad is sociopathic in its dishonesty and it is gas lighting. donald trump by the end of his administration had the migrant crisis going and it drove him crazy and he had creative and effective policies to stop the flow over the border and biden inherited these things and everyone who knew anything said leave this in place. you have a disaster if you don't and he tore it all up because donald trump had done it. the results have been predictable and catastrophic and felt around the country. every big city in america now is a border city and has had resources strained by the cost of housing and other things dealing with this migration wave and kamala harris has never said it was a bad idea and we should be tougher. she has blessed all of it and

was in fact with biden on all of this stuff in 2019 and had a responsibility for part of this crisis. she supposedly will deal with the flow from central america by promoting development in central america which might meet a plan for 30 years from now but is not a planet now could you just have to stop them from getting in and send them back home and the message will be heard, don't come at all and it will be a waste of your time and resources to take this dangers journey. that is not what they have done and this is all about my part since border bill it would have a blessed some element of the illegal flow, 2000 illegals a day coming across before anything would be triggered and that is the reason why border hawks opposed it. to make this out as she is the one who is tough on the board and wants to shut down the border and donald trump is happy

for the border to be out of control is completely false. host: john is up, a republican in massachusetts. caller: i wanted to talk about busing. harris was in that yellow bus. i was a white person on side that bus being sprayed by a mace and it was not the police. it destroyed my education. at 17 years old we had no education and missed half of the year because of the riots. we have a solution. we should have started with kindergartners. the kids are spoiled by the parents as being racist. i almost was killed over in korea.

host: what year was this when you're talking about the busing when you were 17? caller: i was 17 and it was 1974 and i was not best as a senior. they bust blacks through our neighborhood and the riots broke out and they outnumbered us 321 and they were 20 years old. i just wanted to say the white person's side. we have solutions and it should have been started in kindergarten host: -- kindergarten. host: comment? guest: there is a bipartisan consensus that forced busing is a mistake in no education policy continues to be of eight and should be an issue in this campaign where donald trump and j.d. vance support school of choice which is giving kids and

parents the choice to get out of failed schools. there is no coercion into it it is just giving them the ability to escape failed schools and cities around the school have seen this implemented and it has been a great success and very popular among parents and kids. it won't be a major issue but it will be a matter of debate and it should be. caller: stephanie, democrat in brooklyn, new york. caller: good morning -- host: stephanie, democrat in brooklyn, new york. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: mr. lowery, why are all of you in men so mean and evil. why don't you believe in anything good for people?

if you are coming out your character as being an evil man. we know you are going far to the right. you all are far too the right. no rights for anybody, children, blacks. you don't even want people to get along with one another. he divided the country and are causing trouble and say that nobody cares about the people at the border. you are the one who are starting that because you needed something to run on. republicans do not know how to govern. you don't do anything for the people. the 118th congress is not done anything for the people. all they are doing is breaking down things instead of building up. you know what i am talking about because you are laughing. host: let's get a response. guest: a sweeping indictment.

this is a major factor in trump's favor, there is now nostalgia about his record as president, at least the first three years. people are blackening 2020 is epidemic here he wasn't responsible for. things were better. if you look at inflation which has eroded people real wages and benefiting among democratic commentators. why don't realize the economy is so great and gdp is up, but the numbers generally have been good but people feel as though their paycheck doesn't go as far and it affects their life's and all sorts of ways. you had the trump retrospective rating as being over 50% and it was rarely at that high when he was president and because in comparison to what we had last

three and half years it looks good in retrospect. caller: peter, new york, republican. caller: -- host: pier, your, republican. -- peter, new york, republican. caller: i would like you to address things that i have been hearing on c-span that i think are not true. i know you are a fan of president trump and i understand your criticisms about the comments in -- about governor cap and he needs him to -- governor kemp and he needs him to be on his side. there are two things, president biden keeps talking about charlottesville. it has already been proven that what president trump said in

charlottesville, he condemned the skinheads and the people on the radical right and he said there are good people on both sides are there because they didn't want to see the statue of robert e lee taken down and president biden keeps saying that he was venerating people on the far right. and what happened in georgia, he called mr. roethlisberger and said see if you can find 11 votes. he didn't say create them, help me out and see if you could find them. and also regarding vice president pence, the vice president did have the option under the 1887 act to send the delegates back to georgia because president trump wanted

cap to call the state legislature back because the court changed the rules and did not have the right to do that. the reasons of the lawsuits never went forward because the court said they had no standing. he never looked at the evidence. there is a misconception on particularly washington journal. you are a fair guy. host: go ahead, rich. guest: i appreciate the caller's perception. charlottesville thing is a hideous light and trump's comments have been distorted. the call, i didn't like it and i think it was outrageous and the caller is right that trump seemed to believe there was a pool of 140,000 illegal votes

and was telling him you don't need to find all of them, just find enough to demonstrate the margin of victory. that is all we need. when it comes to pence's role, the vice president, on that day, a ceremonial role. he can't mess around in the george electric plug clean been litigated and has gluten look that over again. it's just appalling conduct after the 2020 election. he was leading in no national polls. one out of 100 holes. he had house candidates who ran four point ahead of him. it was not because the democrats

were just stealing the election from donald trump and not bothering to steal it from other republicans. if you are going to go to the length of committing crimes to stop trump from being elected you would think he would also do it to me cap republican candidates. they were told in suburban areas that i would work for you but i don't like that i am not going for him. i think it was appalling but i agree about that call. host: and also about mr. trump's comments on charlottesville. politico has published a full text of the trump comments on white supremacists all left in charlottesville and you can review it there and see everything he said. leah centreville, virginia, independent line. caller: i would like to say i am so delighted that harris and wa

lz are together. i come from a small town who had 300 people who lived in kentucky where vance comes from. you better watch out for vance because he is very ambitious. as far as i remember, towns along the ridge, they don't even know he is. trump has a wild horse following him. and i wanted to say i am so proud of paris picking the man she did because i think he is honest and deals the truth and speaks the language of the lot of us who are there. i am 90 years old and have lived a long time and have seen a lot in my lifetime.

i think this gentleman is up there better go back and review his findings because he is not telling a lot of the truth. host: what do you think? guest: j.d. vance is ambitious. you really make it on a vice presidential ticket. this is part of the charging of josh shapiro as well. the harshest element of the speech yesterday was all directed at j.d. vance. this will be very distinct debate. they are capable guys and good talkers and have completely opposite theories of the case. i should note that in the plane tell her it said that tim walz city don't play around with this

complete myth that has been created online about vance. we have heard from democrats how terrible misinformation is an we need to police the social media and government should be telling social media at what to do, then don't on social media just to get a cheap laugh. host: what did you think of the pick of former president trump's of senator vance? were you in favor of that? were you rooting for someone else? guest: i was optical and runs, pretend it is a close case and pick someone who can help you the most. i would have picked nikki haley and that was not going to happen and she probably would have helped him more than anyone that was not an option. i think someone like glenn

youngkin with suburban appeal and what is becoming swing state when he was at his lowest, that is off of the table. instead he picked jd on the theory that he is a rustbelt guy and won in ohio and therefore he would have appeal in the other rustbelt states. winning over any working-class voters in those places who are already with donald trump. it was kind the pick and how are we going to cement our legacy for years from now and that was the key to forehead. have no idea what things are going to look like four years from now. we don't know what it is going to look like three months from now. the idea that this would make

j.d. vance the nominee in 2028 and would carry on in trump's agassi. it could but about winning now in the vulnerability, one of which we already discussed is in a record in an obnoxious way i many things. the other side of the claim, completely loyal and trump has a good relationship with him and trust him and that is very important and he is a bright and talented guy. he has succeeded everything he has done in life and if a good spokesman for the campaign as i was mentioning. i was skeptical of the pick and i think we have seen him of the downsides but there are upsides. host: frederick maryland, democrat. caller: good morning. what i wanted to say is i

minored in political science and i guess what scares me the most as an american is the direction our government is going in. i don't have a site and i don't hate guns. i generally will be in favor -- i don't hate republicans. i generally will be in favor of a government that works for the american people. i don't understand why there is so much of a rhetoric to divide the two parties and especially amongst the people who are otherwise not very educated. what worries me most is the internet these days is like books during the renaissance. they are getting all of this information and a lot of it is misleading. it causes revolt and destruction

and causes great nations to fail. it is most like republicans the democratic -- the catholic church and at the end of the day we all have the same goals we want but now you have these belief systems and ideologies that are distracting people from getting down to the real problem and then resolving them. i guess what i wanted to ask you is, do you feel worried at the direction the country is going in because the internet and do the republicans and democrats, having hands to let bygones be bygones and work together before something terrible happens because the attempted assassination of trump shows there is frustration going on and also ignorance that has

wound up. host: ok, we will get a response. guest: there is a lot there. i would make two points, with regard to the internet, it is a boon to the daily lives and consumption of information but it has a lot of content misleading people more than they have ever been misled before i would not compare to the books in the middle ages but more to pamphlets with the advent of the french revolution and a big element was the pamphlets that smeared marie antoinette and that kind of the precursor to the bad side of the information revolution. there are upsides to it. if you are a conscientious news consumer, you can get more smart well informed content more quickly than ever before and it

is a mixed bag. i think we are very divided and it is important to remember it has always been that. the only exception we take is the norm was the post-world war ii era where there was relative consensus in american life. there was only three to be stations and information sources were limited which also played into consensus. that war down and went away relatively quickly. by the late 60's and early 70's we were more divided than we are now. there was violence in almost daily bombings and thank god they worked killing people. you had terrorist groups going back to the start of the republic. jefferson u.s. elected famously we are not in sort democrats, we are all going to get together

and then try to destroy the federalist and they felt the same thing of him. this is just symptomatic of a democratic republic that has robust and free debate. there will always be divisions and harsh things said and what you trust in is our governing institutions abiding and being able to withstand this and the fact that they are meant to create the space for this and eventually better solutions emerging here that has been true throughout most of history and i trust it will be again. host: steve, hanover, maryland, republican. caller: it is an honor. i always enjoy talking to a brilliant young man. i have a comments on the choice of a vice president for the democrats. what i found is governor newsom

and cooper weren't even considered in the final four to the media. this tells me that the progressives are scared, essentially in a don't have confidence in harris. they are rolling the dice bringing a progressive and keeping governor newsom and cooper fresh for 2028 area in regards to progress -- 2028. in regards to progressivism, we sought to members of the squad were defeated in their primaries. and also regarding what you said earlier, the pendulum keeps swinging in america. we have had for a single term residents in the last 50 years,

carter, bush senior, trump, and biden we can consider that harris causing the republicans a threat to democracy and harris gets in without a single vote. we know this. she was elected by the machines. host: go ahead, rich. guest: i don't think they are thinking that far ahead that are keeping the talented governors fresh for 2028. i think they really want to win and there is a 50% chance or little less that they will actually win. you don't have to save anyone you could potentially have a vice president and the hairs operation and harris are self has convinced themselves that walz was the choice. i would've gone with shapiro.

it seems the criticisms of him for being a pro israel jew has some effect. that was a big element of the public face that was made against him. that is really shameful and disgusting. but i don't think the campaign trusts her or they would have her doing unscripted events more. they are obviously afraid of that. they want are all scripted and on teleprompter but so far it is working. host: have a text from west palm beach, florida. she says, good morning eric it makes me sad as an immigrant who is a retired nurse. i have never seen such anger from the republican party. if you go into the hospitals, nursing homes, it is all immigrants and how can one show eight care for them and put food on their table? what do you think of that? guest: i just reject the premise. i don't think anyone or very few

hate democrats. they are all around us and part of our communities. we are married to a part of our families. what has happened at the border should meet people angry. it is infuriating because it is a totally avoidable crisis, crisis created deliberately and if you read the polling, even people who are immigrants or the children of immigrants reject this. it is very hard to come in to the united states the right way. it takes a lot of effort, filling out forms and abiding by various rules. the people have done that are maddened that people can come from all over the world now and simply walk over the southern border and surrender to immigration authorities with no fear of being sent back to where they came from but most will be processed and just come into the country and will never leave. no matter how many proceedings

they show up for, no one shows up for the deportation because you would be an idiot because we will not track you down and deport you. it is a free ticket into the united states. it is not a function of hostility to immigrants as such or as people but it is justified fury at our laws being defied in such a flagrant way. host: raymond is in north carolina, independent line. caller: i just wanted to the point that was just made about republicans being mean and there was an earlier caller. i have to say that the republicans that i know, and i know a lot of them, are the kindest, gentlest helpful people . i can't even exaggerate. when i needed help 30 years ago, there were a number of

christians who happened to be republicans who helped me in tremendous ways. i feel like they are getting misrepresented in so many ways by these opinions that are not backed up with facts. . can i can show you mean democrats like maxine waters telling people to actually harm people who are trumpers way back nessel them while they are eating and things like that. there burnings and riots by the democratic favored people, and the republicans have rallies and clean up after themselves. they are organized. the tea party was organized and clean way back. it is frustrating to hear so many misconceptions. host: lowry, go ahead.

guest: i endorse all that. it is possible to get a misperception of what america is from our political debates. in your communities and real life you encounter nice, helpful people all the time who are republicans, democrats, and independents. and then you have the poisonous cross on top of it which is our political debate. political debate should be a full throated and harsh at times and that is our history and our nature as a country but it is not as though everyone in america has daggers drawn and half of us are nice and half of us are mean and that is just not true. host: one last question from keith, an independent voter who wants to support the republican party. ll the trump party except the election if he loses again? why does it pear the republican party is taking us

back to a very divisive time in ourountry. look at vance's commentsn taxing childless adults which reeks of the whole text how we have. there are plenty of comments out that reflect this current trend. what do you think of that? guest: we discussed the j.d. vance comments and really wants to help families. he shouldn't have spoken of it in that way. i don't think loses find some way to say it was unfair. i don't think has ever accepted the results. that will be bad and people to go through. i don't think democrats will not particularly accept it if trump wins either. they didn't really accept it in 2016. they came up with the fantastic there that you somehow disorganized small campaign and cooperated with a major or in

and sensitive intelligence and it was crazy area it was pursuit and people on tv and the media told us this had happened and trump was going to get caught in the walls were closing and and at the very least we will see some version of that again and it will be better absent real fraud and real cooperation with a foreign power which is something out of a tom clancy novel and not something that happens in real life. now hears or donald, one of them will win it. if something crazy happens, we couldn't accept the results of her cycle accept the results. -- results.

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glorious lessons on this episode of book notes plus. note this is available on the free mobile app or wherever you get your podcasts. >> "washington journal" continues. host: our guest is khalilah brown-dean. she is the executive director of the allbritton center for the study of public life at wesleyan university and host of the "disrupted." welcome to the program. guest: thank you so much. host: and vice president harris are both members of the sorority. tell us when it started and why. guest: it began on the campus of howard university in 1908 and was created at a time when black

women in particular were barred from college campuses. they were not allowed to attend at some of the more prestigious universities that we know of, like columbia, yale, princeton. they were also very underrepresented on the campuses of historically black colleges like howard university. so women came together because they saw a common purpose to elevate a connection to community, to see strength and leadership opportunities and to see their time together as college students but only for short-term. they came together to create that organization. host: what year did you say that was? guest: january 15, 1908. that year is important. host: this was before women got the right to vote. guest: for women that the right to vote and 12 years before the 19th amendment enfranchised some

women. women could have the ability to vote and before they can have a checking account in their own name and at a time when women in leadership positions outside of the home were still very much a novelty. we are talking about women in general, not just black women. to come together in the face of those structural barriers as well as public understanding to create an organization dedicated to women's leadership is very extraordinary. host: it is part of the divine nine. can you explain what that is? guest: it is our term of affection for the historically black fraternities and sororities. there are four sororities part of that organization and five fraternities. what is key about those organizations, they are created at different times throughout the years from 1906 to 1963 as the origin years of those organizations some are founded

on campuses like howard university's but others at cornell, indiana, butler university. it shows the broad experience and diversity within black communities and having those organizations say let's come together to build something greater than ourselves and address the issues of the day. host: if you would like to talk to our guests, you can do so. the lines are republicans (202) 748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, independents (202) 748-8002. we have a line set aside for members of the divine nine. if you are a member, you will know what that is that number is (202) 748-8003. and you can use that same number to text us. can you talk more about the role these fraternities and sororities have played in social movements and let actual

accomplishments they have had? guest: each of these organizations show the commitment to service, a lifelong commitment to service. membership is not confined to the time a person is an undergraduate student. it is membership for life and an expectation one who has had these opportunities to acquire higher education to be exposed to leadership opportunities who use those opportunities to empower the communities. so all nine organizations has its own set of goals. for one, they are committed to reducing stigma around mental health and mental awareness as well and addressing things like maternal mortality rates, helping to address childhood hunger and poverty. all of these organizations share that commitment to service and donate millions every year,

raising millions of dollars for students to attend higher education so the scholarship is a key piece. they leverage that not just in local communities but at the national and international level as well. so alpha kappa alpha was founded in 1908. within mode -- months of the founding, joining together other women to demand that women be able to participate in the national average month. the president for comfort health wrote a letter to alice paul -- you cannot say can deny others to march together. the history of involvement and pushing toward change and progress becomes a key for every

organization in the divine nine. host: getting to the fall campaign. what will do you expect those fraternity and sorority members to be playing in this campaign? guest: each of the nine presidents of those organizations in the divine nine released a joint statement a few weeks ago announcing that those organizations together would promote voter mobilization and engagement in a concerted effort. those organizations, those nine organizations represent 2.5 million members. each of those members is connected to other communities, to other institutions that can broaden the reach. what is so critical when we are talking about this election year and how these nine organizations are coming together in collaboration, it is a space for intergenerational, multigenerational engagements.

you have members who have 50 plus years of service and then you have recent college graduates who are saying, what is my place in this world? how do i raise the issues i am concerned about and focus on policy and issue and not just people. having that concerted effort to say we deserve to not just have a seat but seats at that table and how do we work together to do it, not just at the presidential election, because there are key races at the local and state level that these organizations and members are fighting to have the community engage with. host: i want to ask you about an article in usa today that says, at a trump rally in atlanta, black attendees say kamala harris is playing the race card for votes. what is your reaction to that? guest: i think it is always fascinating when people even

raise the term "the race card." we think about the experiences of these women who for so many years the racial identity prevented them from be able to participate in politics. i thinking about where we are in this country right now with the anniversary of both the civil rights act of 1964 in the voting rights act of 1965 to make mention of those institutional barriers and how in spite of those restrictions on being able to participate in the process, you have people emerging as leaders who are not just running for office but who are leading in schools and communities every day. making mention of that is not about playing the race card. it is about affirming the prospect of freedom in the united states and affirming the very beauty of american democracy, that even in a country where many people were brought here in the shadow of slavery, they can still pursue office and have an impact on their community every day.

that is what makes the united states unique and is one of the things i think encourages people to always think about the future while working today. host: let's talk to callers. joe is in ventnor, north carolina and is a member of the divine nine. caller: i am a member of a fraternity, the first of the black fraternal organizations. we were the fraternity for martin luther king. he was one of our fellows. he was always concerned about the situation of people of color around the world. we have a crisis going on next-door and involving not only african-americans, but who are

cooperating in undermining our government. that country is egypt. the egyptian supply oil to the zionists ralph lunch -- bunch signed the initial agreement. he made sure they had oil and gas and they were able to take people's land illegally. they did it it by sending 50 gallon barrel of oil on the stack of old ships. now they have a pipeline going by the door of gaza. hos caller: they have now given

mr. trump, millions of dollars. what are we going to do about this kind of in your face dirt in this upcoming presidential situation? host: professor, any comments on that? guest: i think one of the things you hear in joe's comments is a sense of frustration. another thing i want people to hear and be clear about there are assumptions just because a person is a member of a organization or collective organization that were thinks alike and has the same perspective or they will factual in lock step because of a shared affiliation. what you hear is that is not true. some of the greatest debates about world affairs, local politics and path forward have happened in organizational

meetings where you have smart dedicated people who disagree. what is important in this election for joe's question is those organizations come together to discuss the issues, to discuss the concerns that people have and these divine nine organizations have chapters across the world. so you have people in the dominican republic who are having the conversation about the country's treatment and run with haiti. there are people in dubai thinking of that region and what global conflict can mean so. bringing people to discuss issues, not personalities, not identities but discuss policy and issue is a key role the organizations can play. host: amica is a relying in california. caller: hi.

i called in when the senator from nebraska i don't remember his name and asked him about reparations and how slave labor built the wealth of our country. when i see people in san francisco, a lot of black people living on the street out there, i think why don't they get a check and the support was saying i haven't seen a plan that would appeal to him. he was not against it. but i believe -- i inherited at one upon the $30,000 and it helped me get housed. i wonder about the divine nine and do they have any platform on that? i think it is ultra necessary if you want to say. host: ok. go ahead, professor. guest: i'm thinking about where

we are and sheila jackson-lee was laid to rest who is a member of the divine nine. one thing she said is what makes this country so amazing is that it allows us to take a step back and think about the history of our nation, to think about the impact of that history and where we are but to work together to chart a path so. while there's no overwhelming consensus of reparations there's a lot of conversation tingly at the local -- particularly to recognize that past history and not be bound by it but to refuse to ignore it. that is what is so important in this political moment we are in to be able to have vigorous debate and conversation but not

walk away with words but with a plan of action. whether that is at the local level of cities and towns or states, that is the opportunity to can come together to build something together. host: houston texas, michael, democrat. good morning. caller: good morning, professor brown-dean. i'm just wondering if you thought there might be any other what is the historical significance of having the first block female president be a graduate of a hbcu, a member of a historically black sorority and it might influence the way she might govern. guest: i'm not a graduate of a hbcu but every formative teacher had had was an alum of that amazing group of schools and

universities. what is important to think of vice president harris and candidacy and impact it can have is anyone familiar with hbcu's knows they can be tough because you have an amazing cadre of student who calendar each other and perceive a particular interest in communities and community voice and empowerment. i think we have seen that whether we talk about her role in san francisco or as a senator and now vice president. one thing that is critical is people see and affirm the value of those institutions particularly the public hbcu's that have been underfunded for decades but still produce the great he was number of african-american lawyers, doctors and educators and say what can happen when you invest them and prosperity that can

result. so i see that continuing for the vice president because we have seen it to date but how beautiful it can be that other young people will see a path toward progress that allows them to be connected to that seguily and lineage. host: let's talk to lornel in fort washington, maryland, a member of the divine nine. caller: executive brown doing an amazing job. i'm a omega, my son is. you are absolutely right that 2 2.5 influences a lot. with i want to talk about is the decisions my fraternity to people said we shouldn't go but i'm proud of the decisions and

impact we made. we gave out over 8,000 books and life and uber drivers were tarpbged to make sure we did business with black businesses and block entrepreneurs. so i think having someone like soon it be president harris with her background and hbcu grad want to be associated with your works and thank you for your work and thank c-span for always having a pulse on what is important. guest: thank you are so much for that and congratulations to your family. it is always beautiful to see generations of people connected in purpose and principle. what i think you raise there is something that will be a critical conversation that is happening across these organizations but crass communities. we need to think about not just an election but how we prepare

people for life an election. not just the presidential election but local and state races that are happening as well. so, while people have vigorous debate whether to host their conferences and conventions in particular states with a legacy of policies that undermine some of the very programs those organizations are promoting in, you also have people who said what happens to those businesses if we don't go to support them. if all of these divine nine have some platform around economic empowerment and wealth building what does it mean for those students and i notice men of omega are committed to providing books what if we turn our backs on people that have to live in those policies. that speaks of the diversity not

just identity but diversity of thought that exists across these organizations. host: we have a question on x who says why are so many blacking leaving the democratic party? have they grown tired of the failed promises or are they more educated with their ability and access to knowledge? guest: for me it is a data question. i'm a political scientist and quantitative social scientist who that is a nice way of saying i'm a nerd who loves looking at numbers, data appear patterns. the data tells us it is not that masses of people are leaving the democratic party. it says there are millions of americans who are identifying as independent over the two parties because they often question whether the two major political

parties can actively represent the diversity of their thoughts. we have always seen that select wuhl diversity across block communities. i think often the general public doesn't recognize or affirm it but we know about the debates within black communities whether people are familiar with the discussions between malcolm x and martin luther king or w.e.b. dubois and others that diversity has always existed. and figuring out what is the container that can hold those challenges but creating a way for people to be part of the process. that is not if you. we may have new terms for it but that is not new. even when people don't identify with one of the two major parties they identify with faith communities, have access to housing that is affordable and safe and create a future for their family that they want to

be greater than what they have right now. we share that and understand that. that is why it is important to not just look at party label but substance. host: we have a member of alpha kappa alpha in new haven, connecticut. caller: good morning, dr. brown-dean. always so proud of you and grateful that the c-span audience can experience you this morning. my question to you is this is an experience i had this weekend registering people to vote and make sure they commit to vote in new haven. what wisdom would you have for newly registered voters 18 to say 25 who have experienced significant political turmoil and are struggling to get up and get out to vote for this election cycle. guest: thank you for this

question. it is one that keeps me up at night but it is the perspective that gets me going in the morning. i will give you an example. at the albritton center we've diploma to the ballot focusing on young people from 17 to 25. if you wait until an election to help people find their political voice or to engage in a process, it almost was like it is too late because it feels transactional. how do we help people see their power and agency? we don't do it by guilting people to say you have to vote because generations of people naught and died for this right, which is true as part of it. but when people think of the challenges they face every day that may not be the motivation. what we find effective is talking to people and listening. what are they concerned about?

are they concerned about whether their child will be able to get higher education if that is what they choose to do? will their family be available to have access to a job that cannot just bring an income but allow them to build a sense of stability for their family? can they take a vacation and afford it while paying for medication if they are engaging in elder care? talking about the people about things they are concerned about and listening to their answers and not trying to guilt tell into voting has been quite effective. the other piece that is critical is we have it not just meet people where they are but be willing to allow them to take places to places that maybe is less comfortable so people may not use the same words and terms but everyone knows what they need, they know what they want rapid how do we connect in a way

that is genuine, sustainable and doesn't just get them excited for a election but represents them for a lifetime. host: tony in red hrrpd, california, democrat, you are next. caller: hi, dr. brown-dean. i have a question about what you think about clarence thomas taking $4 million worth of bribes as a supreme court justice? doesn't he hurt the black community in general because he is such an awful representative and is taking reparations on his own? i heard an earlier caller talk about renn rations. he is doing it by himself. what do you think about him? guest: i would say that i wouldn't call that reparations.

reparations has such a unique history. it is connected to struggle, connected to demand from communities that want to be sure we are keeping those things separate. what is critical is for people to think of integrity, to think about ethics and what they demand of the people who represent them. whether they are elected or appointed. what are the guard rails we have in place? there are people in every community of every background of every stripe who engage in behavior that i think is inappropriate or unbecoming. what we have to resist and i remember one of the initial tweets or comments was about the race card. that can go both ways. when we think about where we are in the current moment of the country on the precipice of making history, what we also know is being first or being one of a few can sometimes feel like

a hole low prize. because at the same time there are those that will not support you simply because who you are and there are those that will attach every hope and dream and when you falter it is not about you as a individual it is see we told you why we should not have taken a chance. i think what justice thomas is accused of engaging in is something he will have to answer. what we are as voters concerned about is decide structurally what are the things we need in place to preserve the integrity of the court because we know there are key critical issues that would come before that court and already have. again, what are the kinds of expectations we have not just of people in leadership but frankly what are the expectations we have of ourselves and what will knee not stand for.

host: both is in baltimore, maryland, independent. caller: good morning. i'm calling regarding the vice president belonging to a sorority. how much of an influence do you think that will have on the election? we saw a local news story about one of the sororities trying to garrett votes and contacting all the black sororities an fraternities. i belonged to a sorority in college and that will not have an effect on my decision for president but how much you think it will have on the current

election? guest: thanks much for the question. i think it creates appear opening to be very clear about something. all of those members of the divine nine, the five fraternities and four sororities have nonprofit status which means no organization can endorse a candidate. that is critical. they recognize there is tremendous diversity of ideology and opinion across members. so not only would it be illegal it would be inappropriate for the organizations to endorse a candidate or support a particular party. as individuals of course people will make their decisions based on the things that matter to them. i do not think people will say oh vice president harris is a member of this organization so she automatically gets my vote. not at all. people are much more

sophisticated than that and intentional about their vote. there is a level of familiarity of experience and subconnected to the legacy of a hbcu and sorority means that you don't have to explain your humanity to anyone. you don't have to justify the college you chose to attend is worthy of investment. you don't have to engage in debates about who is or isn't in identity. there is a shaeurt level of understanding that allows you to dive deep into those organizations. so i think the sororities and fraternities will make a difference in engaging people not just the presidential level but key races in state houses, city school boards and so on will help people address with every single day. that is why this matters.

you have 2.5 million people plus who are saying collectively we are going to mobilize our communities, make our voices heard and collaborate with other institutions like block churches which traditionally have been a safe space for people to encourage them to engage in the process. host: khalilah brown-dean, following that comment we have kia in nashville, nnessee, who asks you this. in light of the upcoming election what strategies do you believe are most effective in mobilizing block motors to ensure the voices are heard? how can community leaders and educators like myself as a member of alpha kappa alpha contribute to this effort? thank you. guest: ink there are three key things people need to do which may not on its surface seem like a political strategy.

we are less than 2k50eu9s until the election and people are feeling overwhelmed. there are lots of zoom calls people are participating in and having differ conversations. it means creating a pairier to understand what is important to you, what is nonnegotiable and how do you unite with other people who share those concerns. this is a long haul strategy to get people to. the second piece is flacco on voter mobilization. registration is a first entry point. but you have to get people to the polls whether that is on election day or during early voting periods that a number of states have. the third critical piece i think people need to focus on across this election cycle and after is think of voter protection and integrity. so, helping people create a

voter machine, what is their plan for election day or early voting? how can they verify that their address, signature and everything is in order now. if you are sending a young person off to college in a few weeks which many are, how do you ensure they can person? will they vote in the city they will be in residence as a college student or by absentee ballot and if so get this done now. that is how every person and organization can work together. so it is not just a candidate or a race, but it is about creating a culture and environment that says civic engagement is good for all of us, it is healthy for our country and a high act of citizenship to bring people together to affirm their voices. host: billy in texas, democrat. hello. caller: hello.

i'm a democrat and i have been writing in houston. i want to say that we have the young people voting because we are connected to them and connected to god. there's no fear in our young people although we have people key can't explain and jesus heard a lot. we understand god. that is why america is the world leader and people will be encouraged to vote. we are one nation of god and world leader because we have faith in god and the world can see that against the evil people trying to run the world. we are a nation of god and nation of the world because we do the things that god wants to

do and all the young people and a lot are listening now who are doing the right thing and the right thing is voting for america and doing the right thing. host: all right, billy. tom in lawrence, kansas, republican. good morning, tom. caller: good morning. i listened to the last caller quite a bit. in our history looking back and we have had some bad things from history in the past. i'm for looking forward. from what i see, i could be wrong because i'm not on social media, i'm on the regular cable broadcast, but everything i see is family separating themselves from the country as a whole.

actually, what i see is there's plenty of block mayors, there's black people, things are moving forward. so i guess my point of view is don't separate yourself from the rest of the people in the country, let's all go together and move forward. host: let's get a response. guest: i think it is a great point to raise. because what we ask is why do people choose to affiliate the way they do. historically black colleges and universities were founded precisely because black students, brilliant, amazing students, were not allowed to attend other colleges and universities. historically black fraternities and sororities were created

because people were not allowed to come together in their college campuses. think of where we are now when you have colleges and universities with a dominant sorority culture that only in the last 10 years allowed nonwhite members to join. so we think about separation combining the last two callers, dr. martin luther king jr. said the most segregated places in america are churches on a sunday morning so how is that looking at other people saying why are you separating yourselves let's ask where are the spaces we come together. we come together in mutual respect or in mutual affirmation and purpose and understand why those things can happen. no one who attends a hbcu or join a divine nine lives in isolation. we go to work every day with

people whose experiences are different. some of us worship with people whose experiences are different from our own. there's a strength in throwing we can come together while celebrating and honoring those rich traditions. that is how we move forward together as a country and as a nation. host: following that, professor, samantha on x asks why are sororities and fraternitying segregated -- fraternities segregated? guest: i don't think they are celebrated which will we talk about divine nine because while they are historically for block members they are not exclusively. one fraternity had a new class of hop repair members very diverse. to those organizations what binds us is not a requirement for shared identity but shared sense of respect. so, i would ask some of those

big sororities in southern states that we are seeing all over social media and netflix documentaries, i would ask them why has it taken you so long to say there is beauty, talent, purpose and kicks amongst women, amongst young people to come together and what are you going to do moving forward to affirm that shared understanding. host: bill in new haven, connecticut, democrat. caller: bill harris. host: go ahead, bill. caller: i have a comment about the person that called about clarence thomas and why did he take that money. if clarence tom got a reparation maybe he wouldn't take the money but deep down inside he took like most black people do the country worked us half to death paid our slave masters but didn't see the benefit of paying

the people who did the work. the question is when do they pay people that did the work? you can call it reparation or whatever you want. abraham lincoln, what he did he did by executive order. andrew jackson did by executive order. biden right now can give an executive order and have a system where he can pay people of color that are plaque people that worked for the country for nothing. it is about time to pay the debt. how long is it going to pay black people, you pay everybody else but when it comes to black people when are we going to get paid. host: anything you want to add? guest: i want to address a term and that is federalism. so while you are right a president can list an executive order it lies in the enforcement

so lincoln had an executive order that was ineffective and did nothing to address the issue it was symbolic. so i think we are at a time where we need to move beyond the symbol and focus on the substance. instead of demanding that a president issue an executive order how about members of congress to account to move forward those things. so your interest in reparation is in retentions mine is protecting voting rights. how do we move a congress to adopt the voting rights to say voting is so critical we need to enshrine it and protect it. there are many parts of that system that need to do their job and need to be held accountable. in this country when we want to hold people accountable who are elected for not doing their jobs it is by voting. that peaceful nonviolent way of raising our voices to ensure

those interests are heard. host: we will fit in one more call a republican from ohio. caller: yes. i would like to talk about the black lives matter movement. i feel that nothing has come good. they paraded george floyd's body like he was a martyr but the moment he did planet earth was a better place it live. george floyd and -- he put a loaded gun to a pregnant woman's bell while he and his buddies were robbing her house. what do you think about that? guest: i will say this. to the daughter of george floyd, who has now as a young person has been told she has to defend her father's right to live. that she has to defend her father against baseless

accusations. i would ask those who claim to believe in humidity and betterment of our country whether we think that is appropriate. so we are entitled to our opinions. we are not entitled to different versions of the truth. and the ways we can do that is engaging in conversation but also understanding that where we are today is quite different from where we have been in the past. what would we do now to move 2/3 together. host: khalilah brown-dean is executive director of the wesleyan university allbritton study of public life and host of the podcast disrupted. thanks for joining us today. guest: thank you. host: coming up more phone calls on open forum. you can call in now. it is republicans, 202-748-8001, democrats is 202-748-8000, and independents 202-748-8002.

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military strength was a defiant signal they are prepared it keep fighting after 10 months of destruction from israel's campaign in gaza after the assassination of his red ses sore. just for your schedule before we get it calls, at 10:00 a.m. right after this program we will go to the republican v.p. candidate j.d. vance campaigning in a number of states and this morning he will hold a campaign rally in michigan. that live coverage from shelby township begins 10:00 a.m. right after this program on c-span and also on c-span now and c-span.org. also this afternoon the democratic vice presidential candidate kamala harris will be joined by her running mate at a campaign rally that is live from detroit at 7:00 p.m. eastern. also here on c-span, on our

c-span c-span now and online at c-span.org. we have a republican in michigan. host: lois from pennsylvania. host: i'm calming about the guess just on explaining about the divine nine. i was never member of a sorority but i did attend a teachers college that was predominantly black in which the divine nine was very much represented and i wanted to tell your guest, who has left. her explanation of the divine nine and goals and purposes was very well explained. and it was something that feels

needed. that is all i have to say. host: all right, loisment we will talk to bob, arlington, texas, independent. caller: i want to talk about the spoils system which is a practice where the government jobs are handed out to a winning candidate or parties of friends rather than being awarded based on the merit. i think that out in california in the san francisco area the chief, head honor khroe is a little guy from minute ola texas and he was did everything in his power to get her promoted to government jobs and whatever.

and this has continued on to this day. he also helped all the san francisco crowd, nancy pelosi and the governor -- it is just a shame that the country has gone down to that level and we are having to start all over again if you will because of what we got ourselves into now is a big mess. thank you. host: all right. candace, maine, republican. caller: i want to start by saying i cannot believe that woman called rich lowry evil. i feel like people like that shouldn't be left to go on. what i'm calling about is i'm looking on trump's campaign

website and platform has 20 items listed. it is called agenda 47. stop the migrant invasion but when i go on the harris website i don't see any platform and she is not answering any questions, not doing any form of interviews. so, that is concerning to me. host: candace, there's been talk back and forth about the debate. there feels a debate scheduled with abc when president biden was still in the race what. is your thought. former trump said i will only debate on fox, v.p. harris said still be at the debate away agreed to with you show inor not. what are your thoughts on that? caller: first of all i think the debates will really matter because harris for one is not doing any form of communicating other than scripted speeches.

so aware really going to need that unscripted moment. i think that trump has pretty much showed us that he was willing to go into the ring with cnn, he met all of biden's restrictions, no audience. i think he didn't necessarily -- you know how trump is. he talks a lot of bluster but i think if push comes to shove and they say go on abc i think he is really ready to talk the issues. he has them on his website, 20 of them and i think that he's going to go for it -- i don't think he is scared. i think that is just a talking point. he is not scared of debating. you know how he is. he wants to fight. i think we will see at least two debates is my prediction. host: ok. we will see if that comes true. marlin in california, democrat,

good morning. caller: [inaudible] tim walz on his record [inaudible]. host: i'm not sure i heard that but pete in new haven, connecticut, independent. go ahead. caller: i'm 83 years old and i have been voting for every election since kennedy became president. what i'm concerned about is the two candidates, harris and her running mate walz, they are both pro-abortion. and i find out that this year i can't vote for anyone because i'm not pro-abortion and i think

it is a very important issue. president -- eurbltd state former president trump i can't stand him so how can you vote for a person like that. i'm in a little bit of limbo because this year i'm going to register to vote but i'm not going to vote for anyone. and i don't know how a woman could ever be for abortion. it is mind boggling. i don't know how they could be for it. host: pete, i have some information for you from the "washington post" on walz's opinion on abortion and gender affirming care. it says this that after the supreme court overturned roe v wade in 2022 he signed a bill protecting abortion as a state law in january of 2023 making the state a hub for the procedure.

in march she visited a center that provides abortions in april of 2023 he signed the trans refuge people that helps people providing gender affirming care in minnesota. he also approved a bill banning conversion therapy his quiet we are putting up a fire wall it ensure minnesotans have the freedom to make their own health care decision. josey independent in pennsylvania. caller: i called in on the democrat line. i'm calling about some of your guests this morning and some of the call-ins that took place that i could not address at that time. your national review guest seemed to forget the film get -- samuel adams tried to put it on

the flinch revolution. the second thing i want to say you had a caller say how nice republicans were. all people have the ability to be nice and how at the always clean up after themselves after a demonstration. i think they forgot about january 6, 2020. when the capitol was visibly destroyed in some areas and had to be cleaned and repaired. it is amazing to me how quickly the news cycle moves through stories and we don't retain that information. again both guests from the national review and caller addressed how fast news moves on the internet but how quickly we forget. there were also calls about the democrats proposing abortions

from the moment that the woman finds out that she is pregnant up until her due date, the ninth month, which is totally false and fabricated. i think what one caller said this morning what we saw in philadelphia last night was jubilation. republicans, democrats, independents, we are tired of the vitriol and tired of the back and forth fight, fight, fight. we are looking to come to consensus as a country. and last night you saw that hunger and you saw that joy that someone who is looking forward, not backward, someone who is positive, not negative, someone who is looking to move us into the 21st century, not into the 19th. host: let's take a look at a portion of last night in

philadelphia. >> like all regular people i grew up with j.d. studied at yale. had his career funded by silicon valley billionaires and wrote a best seller trashing that communities. come on. that is not what middle america s. i have to tell you, i can't wait to debate the guy. that is if he is willing to get off the couch and show up. see what i did there?

you are welcome. i have to tell you, just an observation of mine that i made, i have to say it. you know it, you feel it. these guys are creepy and yes just weird as hell. that is what you see. host: back to the phones to george in lancaster, south carolina. republican. caller: i want to say i think that kamala harris and tim walz are a great running pair. i know earlier in 2020 both of them that same year i got economisten pregnant. host: let's go to james in lennox, massachusetts. independent. james? caller: mellow.

host: hi, james. caller: [inaudible] host: i'm sorry, say that again. caller: talking about trump. i would like to have him back in there. i have been off for a good while and i have been out for a while. [inaudible] get no help from nobody else. everybody kind of people i'm on oxygen, i can't tend to be that way and inaudible all us white fox in kentucky. i need help bad me and my wife both. host: all right, james.

catherine in conway, new hampshire, independent. caller: hi. i have comments and then a question. there's a movie and a book called "being there" and the main character is a gardner named chauncey gardner and his entire life purpose is continuing his plants. when he speaks he speaks about his plants. peoplity he is sharing his wisdom with them. but he is really talking about his plants. he might say the country will be had sunshine today. anyway, his brain is a vacuum of nothing but people want him to be press. after listening to kamala harris and walz speaking i wondered if we should be giving political candidates running for office a

basic intelligence test before taking them seriously. kamala and walz sound lake chauncey gardner. host: morgan in reading, pennsylvania, democrat. caller: thank you for c-span. i want to make two point. i also my mind every time i hear republicans talk about abortion like they care about life. they made a hero out of kyle rittenhouse when he murdered two people and there was a person who murdered a black lives matter person so republicans talk with caring about live is nothing but b.s. and, vance, how can you trust a man who calls a man america's hitler the next minute he is kissing his behind. a man is supposed to be a man of

his word. how can you trust a man who does such a 360-degree turn. thank you for c-span. host: mike, sea side park, independent line. caller: good morning. i'm an independent, i'm not really fond of donald trump and kamala harris questionable about her policies. she doesn't want to talk about her policy. as far as tim walz her selection for vice president, here is a guy who mandated as the governor of minnesota that restrooms in public schools in the boys rooms are mandated now to have tampa tons which i am assuming the man believes that boys and machine can men -- menstruate.

he is trying to present himself as some kind of moderate and every day joe and football coach and all of that kind of stuff. it does not make any sense. i thought of gender affirming care, if the parents don't agree he signed a bill which gives the state the right to take children from their parents. it is crazy to me that the media is letting this guy portray himself as moderate and every day joe when he is clearly an extremist. i don't think there's anything moderate about either of those policies. i think the mainstream media has to come clean with what is going on with had guy. he and kamala harris are both extremist and i don't think they will be good for america. host: line for democrats is next, oberlin, ohio, faith, good morning. caller: good morning.

i just wanted to make a couple of points. i think that walz was an amazing choice. they make an amazing pair and they really do make people happy and. good. they show the joy that they want to work for people. that, i appreciate. also, as far as the abortion issue, what is right for me might not be right for somebody else. i don't believe in it but that doesn't mean it is not right for somebody else. there should have the right to choose for themselves. government shouldn't be involved in that. however, when you look at things i don't trust j.d. vance because he left ohio to go to california, he came back to ohio just to run for office and now he lives in virginia. i don't like the name calling

that there's no use for name calling in an election. talk about your values, talk about what you. to accomplish for this country. i want to thank you for having c-span "washington journal." host: paul is in bethesda, maryland, republican. caller: i would like to say as far as kamala harris and tim walz are concerned they are both a blink slat -- a blink slate, they have no solutions to the disastrous economy that kamala harris has helped foster where people are struggling to get by. everyone is poorer because of joe biden and kamala harris. everyone. because their dollars are going much -- they can barely even buy groceries or gas. this kamala harris regime has

weakened america on every front, economically, militarily, as far as national security is concerned, and made the world more dangerous because we america is weak or perceived as being weak that emboldens the bad actors of this world and one is iran which is the kamala harris regime has helped empower it engage in much more adventureism whether attacking american trips. so on every issue whether the economy, whether it is domestic policy, protecting children against the sexualation of children which tim walz has been on every single issue they are on the extreme fringe and way to the left of most americans. and their underwould be an

unmitigated disaster for america. host: all right, paul. got. lets talk to david in chelsea, massachusetts, independent. caller: hello. i remember watching the tapes of the bombing of pearl harbor, the 9/11 attack and the january 6. i played recently the tapes of january 6. i know there's a lot of debate in this country about the economy and immigration and all of that. and you can maim it, there is plenty of different debates going on. but i think that this january 6 incident just is pretty horrific. with donald trump sitting back and watching everything on tv calling his militia to go to the

capitol. it is just a horrific thing and it compares with other things, the other incidents. there's a lot of indicts transactions and -- a lot of distractions but for somebody to sit back, his family feels asking he was the commander in chief at the time and he did absolutely nothing and watching people destroy the capitol and go and call for the hanging of mike pence. anybody who votes for somebody like that he is capable of anything in he does that. host: we will go to joe, booneville, new york, republican. caller: there is joe from booneville. what i see is a disgrace.

i served my country. if you choose to vote for this idiot you are voting for communism plain and simple. if you want to be a true lover of america you vote for trump because he was a good president. you might disagree with some of his policies but are you living better then or now. do i want to live under communist rule vote for harris. if you want to be a free american like i do, vote for trump. host: miles in texas. democrat. caller: good morning. how are you doing? host: doing ok. caller: that last guy that said trump was a good president. you say many times it doesn't make it true. january 6, that was just a picnic. they had to break the windows to

get to the food. i have been living in a cave for four years so i was thinking of voting for trump but is it true he has felony convictions and he was friends with epstein? i don't believe that. no way. and the whole thing of thelady paid almost $100 million no way. not my guy. the secretary papers. no, he wouldn't talk any papers that didn't belong to him and give them to somebody he shouldn't show to people. i'm going to go with the convicted felon because it makes most sense. host: i hear the sarcasm there. i'm going to go to the next caller. caller: nothing brings people

together like a hurricane. i'm telling the republicans and whoever. there are a lot of shysters out there. you had a woman with the stop the steel at. be careful who you give your money to. as far as prices and gas prices and the fed. the fed sets the interest rates. it is up to the fed and not the president. and chicken, the chicken people are getting sued for price gouging as we speak. oil is down to $71 a barrel. why are the prices so high at the pump? have them bring it up and have the head of the fed get up there and say, you blew it. you blew it when you increased interest rates. host: let's go to robert in

california. caller: unfortunately, i am from california where the taxes are high and it is affordable. it is getting unaffordable even for the ones like me who have income. , they bicker back and forth. i don't claim republican, independent or a democrat. it is common sense. the regular working american is having problems that have families and even the ones who don't have families. if you have a family and sending kids to college and all of the bills are piling up.

the taxes are extra high in california. they put taxes on everything and only put taxes on the taxpayer and the legal citizens. everything else is free for, unfortunately people need money but everything is free for like illegals. they get free stuff. use welfare, i know there are people who need it but the politicians are basically, not all of them, but it is corruption and bickering and they don't get anything done. it is nonsense. the average american is having a hard time surviving in the united states. it is sad. host: we will talk to carolyn in mississippi, democrat. caller: i am calling because i

want to know how can we vote for someone who wanted to revoke social security. i live off of $1100 a month. it doesn't even pay the rent where i stay at. what about the lights, water, cable, emergencies that come up, medicine you have to buy? how in the world could they say trump is the one? i would never vote for trump if he was the last man on earth. host: devon, kingsport, tennessee, democrat. caller: i was just calling about j.d. vance. this guy has literally badmouthed trump, called trump a -- and has called him a pit

learn. how do you go -- called him a hitler. how can you go back and endorse him? it just shows me he will go against anything. he's going in order to -- he is trying -- j.d. vance is wrong and all fashions. i can see right through him. he is sneaky. host: that is our last call for today's "washington journal." thank you for watching. we will be back tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. we are going to take over to detroit, michigan, j.d. vance will be speaking there very shortly. here it is.