♪ host: good morning. we are just a days until election day. it was a busy day yesterday with

donald trump and vice president kamala harris making appearances. the campaign stops continue today for both presidential advise presidential candidates. we are opening the phone lines to hear about the campaign. lines are split by political parties. republicans, (202) 748-8001. democrats, (202) 748-8000. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can send us a text at (202) 748-8003. include your name and where you are from. catch up with us on social media. on x at @cspanwj. facebook.com/cspan. you can start calling in now. this is in the politics section of the washington times. kamala harris and joe biden teaming up to hail lower

medicare drug prices. it was in prince georges county, maryland. it includes discounts on 10 prescription drugs. this was the vice president yesterday talking about the deal. [video] >> this is to the benefit of not only tens of millions of people on medicare but also millions of americans on medicare who have long-term disabilities. understand as a result of our negotiations, the government will pay less for prescription drugs. think about what that means for helping taxpayers save money. whether or not they take these medications. this is to say two years ago as vice president i was proud to cast the tie-breaking vote that sent the bill -- [cheers] that gave medicare the power to

negotiate and let it get to the president's desk. i was proud when our president joe biden signed the bill into law. [cheers] host: vice president harris yesterday. prince georges county, maryland, talking about their record. it was former president donald trump who had a lot to say about kamala harris's record yesterday. he talked to reporters in you ju -- in new jersey. this is what he had s. [video] [cheers] >> including to raise the minimum wage. and elimina tes on tips for service and hospitality -- >> harris declared tackling inflation will be a day one priority for her. it will be day one.

day one for kamala was three and a half years ago. where has she been? why hasn't she done it? i hear her complaining all the time. she was the borders czar. she has been unbelievable in terms of her badness to some of our great allies. you know who i'm talking about. here is the record of economic calamity that she is desperate for voters to ignore. the tie-breaking vote that caused record inflation. she cast the votes. she is trying to blame biden, as you know. i will do a better job. it was her. if she wants to do a better job, she has five much left, right? she can't do a better job because she doesn't know how to. she is of a place in life where

she would know what a better job is. she's going to destroy our country. they have cost a typical household $28,000. these are numbers coming from government, not from me. host: former president trump yesterday in new jersey. we are talking about campaign 2024, getting your reaction to a busy week on the trail. it will be a busy 80 days on the campaign trail. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. (202) 748-8000 for democrats. independents, (202) 748-8002. robert out of baltimore, maryland. the line for democrats. caller: good morning. everybody must have forgot -- is the day donald trump is going to

the trial and he will get his sentence. it could be 40 years. the 17th, he is going out of the country because he can't do no time. thank you. host: this is david in west virginia. good morning. caller: i have been listening to this for the last three weeks. all i have heard is people badmouthing trump. i'm a democrat and i'm not voting for harris. yesterday you heard her and the president tell how they were going to lower prescription drugs. all the senior cities -- senior citizens are praising this. nobody has yet to tell, which they haven't -- do you know when this is going to take effect? host: 10 drugs starting in 2026 and it will expand to 15 drugs after that. caller: how many senior citizens

will be around in 2026 that will vote her in? is that going to affect me? i need in 2025 -- need it in 2025, not 2026. host: the plan is estimated that it will save taxpayers $100 billion through the year 2031 if you count out that far. it could curtail the share of new drugs that come to market. the expectation from the cbo, about 1% of new drugs coming to market could be curtailed as a part of these negotiations. tiations the pharmaceutical industry has battled. the 10 drugs include a series of insulin drugs, a diabetes drug and others on the list of 10 announced yesterday from the white house and the rally in

maryland with the president and vice president. russell, republican from georgia. good morning. caller: good morning. this is russell. i hear about what they are going to do from day one. she has had three and half years. why hasn't she done then? why wait until day one? get the ball rolling and do it now. they will do so much to drugs. they are promising it. you just wait and see what she does and you will be very disappointed. thank you for your time and god bless america. host: kathy in michigan -- robert, independent. caller: good morning. this is robert from the state of michigan.

living in the fascist town of caspian, michigan. i don't understand. i listen to trump -- have listened to trump for quite a while. it is not him. it is the people following him that have got me confused. it is very confusing why these people keep on listening to this guy. he meanders around. he's off-track. he doesn't say anything. and his statement about tax-free social security, it is already tax-free. it is tax-free to retirees. i live on social security and i'm not paying taxes on it. i worked on my life for this. social security is tax-free. he is saying we are not going to have -- host: did you watch the news

conference yesterday in bedminster? caller: that's what i'm talking about. he is getting worse. it is the same thing as back in 2016. it is really getting worse. it was hard. it was really hard for me to listen to him. he gets off track and he just goes off the rails. he meanders a lot. host: we will show viewers a little more from that press conference in bedminster. this is about two and half minutes. [video] >> for the most part we are leading in the polls. we are leading now. when she is exposed we will be at her by a lot more than we would have beaten biden by. a little group of people have been voting for her for a long time. she doesn't have that. people don't know who she is. as far as personal attacks --

because of what she has done to the country. i'm very angry at her that she weaponized the justice system against me and other people. i think i'm entitled to personal attacks. i don't have a lot of respect for her. i don't have a lot of respect for her intelligence. i think she will be a terrible president. it's very important we win. whether the personal attacks are good or bad, she certainly attacks me personally. she called me weird. he's weird. it was just a soundbite. she called jd and i weird. he was a great student at yale. graduated in two years at the top of his class. all of these different things. we have this guy -- running a failed state. he had a terrible career. you have him saying he's weird. she is weird in her policy. who wouldn't want to have strong

borders or lower taxes? i have watched as politicians campaign and for the most part i've been on the other side. the side that these people are on. they always talked about we will reduce taxes. this is the only campaign i ever heard where they are saying we are going to increase your taxes. people say they will vote for her. i don't know. i don't think people know who she is yet. people didn't know. you can ask the man on the street. i saw it on one of the shows today. what is the last name of kamala? nobody knew. it is harris. nobody knew the last name. i don't even use because nobody knows who i'm talking about. people don't know who she is. she's a radical left socialist. beyond that, she is way beyond socialism. who will destroy our country. when they find out i think you will see something. even not knowing her and with

all of the -- the cover of time magazine. they have her great artist -- a great artist to do it. what was that all about? the whole thing is crazy. i just want to win for the country. some people say, why don't you be nice? they are nice to me. kate -- aren't nice to me. they want to put me in prison. i did nothing wrong. host: former president trump yesterday at that press conference in new jersey. taking your phone calls on campaign 2024. phone lines as usual. brenda in florida, republican. caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i wonder if the american public that are calling you now realize just what this man gave up for us when he was in office.

he took no earnings for what he did. he gave us four years of the best that we have had in quite some time. the fact that people don't see through all the smoke that the democratic party is blowing on us is unbelievable. i wonder if people realize how very devastating it would be if we had this woman as president and we go to war. does she know anything about foreign policy? of course not. she has not had the experience. what do they think that will do for us? will it be a great, great, great situation for us? no. it will be heartache. i cannot believe the people don't see this element --

gentlemen with his family as good as he has been for the united states. nobody sacrifices like he does. he did not need to take the job. he wasn't paid for it. i think it is preposterous that people sit here and try to judge him. why not allow him to do the job? he has all of the mentality, all of the experience, and he will bring us back to where we were. host: this is tom. hagerstown, maryland. democrat. caller: good morning. yesterday at the news conference former president trump said he gave the congressional medal of freedom -- the presidential medal of freedom to -- she was beautiful. the congressional --

presidential medal of honor was better than the congressional medal of honor because she was beautiful. anybody that got the congressional medal of honor was either dead or shot with a lot of bullets. [inaudible] think about that. host: newsweek with a story on that exact topic that the caller brought up. part of his remarks at that press conference. the medal of honor remarks sparking anger from veterans. if you want to watch the press conference, you can do so on c-span.org. this is sheila. youngstown, ohio. caller: good morning. i wanted to say i'm so excited about the new drug prices for seniors. i heard on the news, like the caller mentioned, they don't take effect for the new drugs until 2026.

if congress puts in a law they can make it sooner. i'm so happy. people have had to sell their houses and cars to pay for these. people are paying $22,000 a year. i'm so happy. thank you to biden-harris for helping our seniors. host: president biden appeared whether five president harris -- with vice president harris yesterday outside the board of washington, d.c. this was the vice president talking about the president yesterday. [video] >> i could speak all afternoon about the person i am standing on this stage with. [cheers]

[chanting] our extraordinary president joe biden. [cheers] he is going to speak in a minute. there is a lot of love in this room for our president. [cheers] i think it is for many, many reasons, including few leaders have done more on so many issues, including expand access to a affordable health care. [cheers]

today we take the next step. thank you, joe. [chanting " thank you joe" ] host: you can watch that event at c-span.org. getting your thoughts as we hit 80 days until election day. bill in texas, independent. caller: yes sir. good to talk to you. i would like to say, like several of these other callers have been calling in for the last several days and this morning about where has kamala been for three and half years? she's coming up with this medicare play. where has she been for the last three to half years?

her problem is she needs to be elected. therefore she will come up with all this stuff. she is taking stuff that trump has come up with. where has she been? yet she wants illegals to come from 177 different countries. she is giving them free health care, free housing, free house insurance. there are people living in this country all their lives, 60, 70, 80 years and they don't have free health care, free housing, free food. yet she is allowing these people -- been allowing them to come over. now they murdered this little joslin girl in houston. they murdered the lincoln riley girl. they murdered that other woman in california. strangled her to death.

they strangled the little joslin girl. raped her several times, strangled her to death, yet she will give them free health care, free housing, free food. they have never paid a tax in their life. host: this is brent in quincy, michigan. democrat. caller: hello. if you want a real -- no help trump approaches medicare, look up the man that trump pardoned that defrauded medicare out of aliens of dollars -- billion's of dollars. -- billions of dollars. as far as the inflation trump keeps bludgeoning biden and harris with, i heard jd vance

say harris cast the vote to increase the interest rate. well, the president has nothing to do with the interest rate. the federal reserve is supposed to be independent of politics. of course they won't be if trump is reelected. he will put one of his stooges and thei -- in there. letter member help trump handled the pandemic -- let's remember help trump handled the pandemic -- how trump handled the pandemic. the leader of china told him how bad it was going to be. he said everything will be better when the weather warms up. the people who say things are better under trump, i have to say are the morgues full? are we putting corpses in

refrigerated freight cars because we don't have room in the morgues because the way -- of the way he handled the pandemic? 38 million people were out of work. the death toll -- in may of 2020, it surpassed 100,000. millions were out of work. the economy collapses. the federal reserve buys hundreds of billions of bonds a month to hold the stock market and liquidity to banks so they can encourage new loans to businesses and households that already historic low interest rates. in august, powell tells the illustrious gathering at jackson hole inflation is too low and we need more inflation as the national debt increases to nearly a trillion dollars. this happened under trump -- $8 trillion.

this happened under trump. you mentioned jd vance. he was on the campaign trail yesterday. he was at the vfw post in pennsylvania. he focused on the military record of tim walz, kamala harris's vice presidential pick. this is what he had to say yesterday. [video] >> truth. tim walz said he carried a weapon in war. he never went to work. tim walz said he did not know his unit was about to deploy to iraq when even his own press release at the time said he knew exactly that. tim walz claims to be a command sergeant major. even had it printed on his challenge coin. he knew he never achieved that rank. and now kamala harris showing terrible judgment has decided her way out of the political problem is to claim she and tim walz are the victims.

i think the victims are the veterans who were having their service disparaged because the guy wants to be the vice president -- who wants to be the vice president is lying. that is what tim walz has done. [applause] every single person standing with me has sacrificed something this country. some of us have sacrificed more than most americans can fathom. everyone of us honors every veteran for their service, whether they went to war or not, so long as they did with the country asked you to do. you deserve to have what this country promised to you actually given to you. this is not about disparaging anybody's services, including tim walz. it's about disparaging the dishonesty and asking kamala harris why are you showing such poor judgment by standing by a guy who insulted our veterans

and lied about his service? host: jd vance yesterday in pennsylvania. he will be back on the campaign trail today. he's heading to milwaukee, wisconsin. we will be airinth event on c-span at 12:00 noon eastern time if yowa to watch on c-span, c-span.org and the free c-span now a. vice president harris will be back on the trail again today as we. she's heading to the tar heel state of north colina. she will be in raleigh, said to give an economic speech at that event in raleigh, yi out more of her economic plans. we will ve live coverage of that a2: p.m. eastern here on c-span, c-span.org and the free c-span now app. joe. baker, louisiana. republican. you are up this morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. can you hear me, sir? host: i can't. -- i can.

caller: i am voting for donald trump. none the last trump administration life was pretty good as far as groceries. , gas, energy prices. everything fell out of the bottom because of covid. about an hour ago i'm watching on newsmax where the taliban was having a military parade. they were parading around the same equipment that i used while i was in iraq. i am a marine vet. yes. that tim walz, if i'm saying his name correct -- host: tim walz. caller: this so-called sergeant major. why lie about your military service? you shouldn't do that.

do what you do. you did the service with honor. you don't have to lie about it. that is what i have to say. y'all have a great day and thanked for taking my call. host: that is joe in baker, louisiana. tim walz responded to those repeated attacks by jd vance about what tim walz said about his military record. this was tim walz on tuesday. [video] >> these guys are even attacking me for my record of service. i want to say i am proud to have served my country and i always will be. [cheers] with my dad's encouragement, a guy who served in the army during the korean war, i signed up for the army national guard

two days after my 17th birthday. i served for the next 24 years for the same reason all my brothers and sisters in uniform do. we love this country. in 2005, i felt the call of duty again. this time in the halls of congress. my students inspired me to run for that office. i was proud to make it to washington. i was a member of the veterans affairs committee and a champion of our men and women in uniform. [cheers] i will say it again as clearly as i can. i am damn proud of my service to this country. i firmly believe you should never denigrate another person's service record. anyone brave enough to put on the uniform for our great country, including my opponent, i have a few simple words. thank you for your service and sacrifice. [cheers] host: that was tim walz on

tuesday. barbara on the washington journal, independent from michigan. caller: hi. i am from michigan. another fellow called from michigan. social security does not get taxed. yes it does. it is just considered income. as far as our -- trump voted -- had the vets -- the ability to go to other doctors if they could not get treated by the v.a. you need to show walz shooting people to stay on their porches during the covid lockdown curfew. host: shooting people, barbara? caller: the police were shooting. he had the police shooting

people -- paintballs at people to get off their porches during the covid lockdown in minnesota. walking down the street yelling at people. oh yeah. he wants everybody to be a snitch. we know how we feel about snitches. host: this is terrel in collings mill, maryland. democrat. caller: good morning. i saw john bolton on newsmax the other day. he was talking about the afghanistan war and our pullout. he was saying that pullout was due to the negotiations that donald trump made with the terrorists. with the taliban i think it was. he said john -- john bolton said anybody that negotiate with terrorists he will never vote for.

newsmax got all upset about it. john bolton also said donald trump's foreign policy was trying to get information from zelenskyy. donald trump, you know, donald trump is mad because joe biden beat him in 2020. he cannot get over that. as far as covid, going back to covid and why he lost, that's another thing. he lost because he could not beat joe biden. with covid, they don't want to bring this up. they have the facts on donald trump's four years in office. he lost 2.2 million jobs. the unemployment rate was 6.4%. his gdp was average of 2.5. as compared with joe biden's

right now, the gdp is at 3.6 on average. also, donald trump, 630 4000 people lost their lives -- 634,000 people lost their lives. more people died hunter biden then with trump -- under biden then with trump -- than with trump. if that's the case, why is the economy so much better? host: cullman, alabama. good morning. caller: good morning c-span audience. i would like to change the narrative from the executive branch to the legislative branch. i would like to know how many of the 435 members of congress are running for election this year. i am tired of talking about these three people. i would like the viewers, somebody to tell me who is

running for the senate and the house of representatives and talk about that a little bit. i'm tired of listening about trump and harris. i want to talk about the other people. host: every member of the house is up for reelection. caller: let's talk about them for a while. i'm tired of talking about trump and harris. these are the people that count. they are supposed to have national security. host: in the senate, it is one third of the senate. there is a story today in the wall street journal on it, the democrats of hoping -- having hope of expanding their slim majority. it will be tough for them because of the map this year in terms of the states where they have senators up for election. democrats widely believe the west virginia -- that west virginia will slip away from them. the tossup states are ohio and montana.

jon tester trying to hold his seat in montana and sherrod brown trying to hold his seat in ohio. both facing tough competitors. have you paid much attention to the senate campaign this year? caller: i haven't because i have not heard anything about it. c-span is who i listen to for my political news. you guys are spending about a minute and a half talking about the senate. you spent three or four weeks about this executive branch. i'm tired of hearing about trump and harris. i want to hear you guys talk about the senate and the house of representatives. the races. who is running against who. who is going to win you think. let's talk about something else besides trump and harris. host: i got it. we have had segments on the house and senate. we will have segments on that, including the governors races

around the country. there is plenty to talk about in the next 80 days. this map we have discussed before with folks from the cook political report and inside elections. we will have them back so look forward to those sections as well. joseph in raymond, mississippi. independent. thanks for waiting. caller: good morning. i'm a veteran. united states army. vietnam era. i can't believe that these people are calling in and want to put a convicted felon back into the white house. what will we tell our grandchildren? granddad, a convicted felon. wake up america. bye. host: as one viewer noted today,

donald trump seeking to delay his sentencing for falsifying business records until after the november election. a move the washington post notes would avoid the extraordinary scenario of a presidential candidate receiving criminal punishment weeks before voters go to the polls. the sentencing was pushed back from july 11 to september 18. the judge in the case weighed the request by trump's defense lawyers to toss out the conviction. the ruling is said to take place on september 18. donald trump's lawyers seeking to push that back. christopher in california, independent. good morning. caller: i'm curious on how they are running the campaign for kamala harris so fast right off the boot and how biden -- it seems mischievous to me. we did not have a primary for

kamala. we had one for biden and he won it fair and square. now he's nowhere to be seen. yet we have this harris lady who is not doing any debates or taking questions from the press. i'm baffled by how this is going down. it's being taken from us and now allowing -- not allowing us to vote on it. for that reason alone i'm pushing my family's way onto trump. he's out there doing press conferences every day. we have not heard anything from kamala. just her we will not go back speeches. they make no sense. it has no merit to it. it is very depressing to see how the democrats are running this campaign for her as she sits back and is not having to answer for anything --

host: the harris-walz campaign agree to a september 10 debate. they also said she would be open to another debate in september with donald trump saying september 4 and 25. the 25th would be with nbc news. the one of the tenses with abc news -- on the 10th with abc news. we will see them on the debate stage. jd vance agreed to a cbs debate with tim walz on october 1 as well. when it comes to kamala harris, we are set to hear more from her today on her ecomic plans. at event set to take place this afternoon at 2:45 p.m. eastern in raleigh, north carolina. the preview of it from the washington post. this is the lead. vice president harris will

propose a ban on price gouging in grocery and food industries, embracing a strikingly populist proposal in her most significant economic policy announcement since becoming the democratic nominee. she will announce plans to lower prescription drug and housing costs.harris 's plan is a sharp escalation in the economic populism of even president joe biden who had already pulled the party to the left on economic policies compared with his democratic predecessors. that is omhe washington post. you n tch that event today on c-span, c-span.org and the free c-span now app. devon from cheyenne, wyoming. republican. caller: how are you? host: doing well. caller: can you hear me? host: i can. caller: let's talk about kamala harris. -- do you have any idea who he is? host: tell me who that is.

caller: he is a gentleman that was in prison for over five years because kamala harris held back skull between evidence -- evidence and a judge made her take care of it. the man is free right now. do we really want somebody in office that held back evidence and let a man sit in prison for five years? do we really want somebody like that in there? do we want kamala harris, the person who went ahead will minnesota was burning and wanting to bail people out for the crap that they pulled? do we really want somebody in there? wake up, america.

wake up. host: carlos in springfield, ohio. independent. caller: good morning. i'm confused here. maybe you can help me out. we have people that are calling in on the independent line but they go to column a or column b. they don't talk about independents. do they understand what independents are? we have column a and column b. we have these warmongering administrations. there are other candidates that i feel are more suitable to be president of the united states and more interested in the welfare of the united states. what you think about that? -- what do you think about that? host: i wonder what you think about the caller brought up

earlier about the focus on the presidential race and other congressional races. ohio is ground zero for one of those key senate races. sherrod brown trying to hold his seat. are you paying attention to that senate race? caller: i try to keep an open eye to everything that goes on in politics, local and national. i just and understand why people don't recognize independents are viable. we certainly could use a viable second and third party in our national -- in our country. that is pretty much my story and i'm sticking to it. host: taking a look at robert f. kennedy, jr.? caller: yes. host: what you think? caller: he's got a good message.

host: this is dennis in iowa. toledo. democrat. good morning. caller: i think donald trump does not show loyalty to anybody. the proof of that is look on many ex-wives he has. someone should ask donald trump why isn't mike pence your running mate? what did he do wrong that you like him now? they keep talking about, oh, illegals. iowa. the republican state had a woman. who was president at the time? it was donald trump. the person was a republican. when they talk about he put

taxes on illegals, it is bull crap. thank you very much. host: 15 minutes left in this first segment talking about campaign 2024. gloria in san antonio. republican. caller: good morning. i wanted to talk about how trump is still spewing his vitriolic hatred and lies. i can't believe people are stupid enough to buy into that stuff. i'm a republican but god give me a brain and i use that brain. i don't like the democrats either. i don't know what i'm going to do this year for voting. this country is in real big trouble. if people vote trump in, he said he will be a dictator from day one. he is going to just spew more of his lies.

i listen to the news. when i listen to what he is spewing out i have to really turn it off. i just cannot believe people are so stupid. that they continue to believe -- host: who did you vote for in 2016 and 2020? caller: i remember back in the 1970's when he was in a lot of legal troubles in new york when he was not paying his contractors and subcontractors. i believe he was really -- he was just not honest. i was living in colorado when he was married to ivanna. on the slopes of aspen or vail, marla maples and ivanna got into a screaming match.

wow. he had the nerve to take his mistress on vacation with his family. he is no family man. the man has no morals. nothing. i can't believe people have forgotten all theno, i would ne. i kind of close my -- i voted for hillary and provide. i didn't -- and biden. i didn't like either one but this country is in bad trouble. host: steve, ohio, democrat. good morning. caller: hello. good morning. talking about deceiving the american people, when trump was in office he deliberately allowed -- it was the result of

half a million american families losing the members. he lied to bob woodward, the book writer. he asked him what he going to do about covid. trump said, oh, i know it's bad but i don't want to confuse or alarm the american people. remember that one? half a million members and families who are now missing their loved ones because trump is incompetent. people lost their lives. when it comes to putting somebody in the office like that people need to be critically thinking and saying this man does not belong anywhere near

any kind of presidency or power. the only reason why trump is running is because he's going to jail. he knows this. what other choices does he have but to act the way he is? we have to nail this guy down and tell him get behind the jail cell. that's where you belong. host: duncan falls. greg. independent. caller: what is wrong with you people? all you people just watch the marxist socialist broadcast system or the communist news networks. like that lady told you about the paintballs, shooting them people. that's a true story. maybe you guys wasn't watching

crap like that you would learn some stuff. how come you ain't talking about the taliban parade? our government said all that stuff was destroyed and disabled. it sure looked abled to me. you guys go ahead and vote for that camel to person. -- camel toe person. caller: good morning. the campaign this year is a little interesting. we have kamala harris out there who won't take questions from the press. she is making demands of the debate, where it is going to be. she would not accept the debate with fox. she is a nifty pantsuit -- an empty pantsuit. she already tried to steal one of trump's main messages.

that is the no tax on tips. that was trump that came up with that, not her. trump and she did three times and she pulled it out of her hat. all of a sudden, wow, she is just brilliant. she is not brilliant. she is a weak, weak woman. host: pat. syracuse, new york. caller: good morning. how are you this morning? host: we have about 10 minutes left in this segment. caller: i'm agreeing with the woman who called about the dictatorship. we know kamala harris has not had any campaign issues as far as meeting with the press. one thing for sure that certain, trump said what he would do on his first day. he would be a dictator and stand the people in front of a firing squad that did not agree with him. who wants to live under the iron

fist of a dictator? we are supposed to be a country of democracy. they will be nothing else left. this country will be completely in chaos. that is all i have to say. host: north carolina where kamala harris will be today talking but her economic policies. tom, a republican. caller: the country is already in chaos. kamala harris has had three and half years to do anything she wanted to do. she was right there beside the president. she won't do one single interview. why is that? if that was trump the media would be going crazy. let's see where she does stand on the issues. defund the police. get rid of ice. give illegal immigrants free medical care. do you get free medical care? i don't.

she belongs nowhere near the white house. if you think things are bad now, start saving up for the electric car. that is what is going to be coming next. it is a shame, her and her walz will not do one interview, even with cnn or abc or whatever because she knows they will ask those tough questions and she has no response to why she wants to defund the police. she said all this, folks. look it up. host: tim walz will head to the land of 10,000 lakes. marlene, independent. caller: i am calling to talk to the american people. has anybody -- does anybody remember when donna brazil gave all the questions on her debate to hillary clinton so she would have time to practice for her

debate with trump? kamala harris, if you take away her teleprompter and make her answer from the top of her head is not going to be able to even come close. people have to look at people's voting records. very important before you cast your vote. host: what do you think of tim walz? caller: i live in minnesota. what do you think i think of tim walz? we live very poorly. i watched our city burn. him do absolutely nothing. then i see kamala harris build up a fund for all the people the police were arresting so they wouldn't have to pay any bail. they got out scot-free. they totally destroyed minneapolis. totally. billions of dollars. people lost all their

businesses, their homes. he stood by and his wife opened up the windows and said i like the smell of that smoke. host: this is david in minnesota, republican. good morning. caller: thank you for having me on. the biggest thing is all governor walz has been more towards california regulations which has cost minnesota a lot of money. he has spent plenty of money on things we shouldn't be spending it on. our taxes went up. the deal was they were going to try and -- property taxes. they went up because after the democrats took control of the house and senate they blew all

the money. it was put away. rebate supposedly go back to property. it was way less than what it could have been because of their agenda for things that i don't agree with some of the things. they should not have spent the money on them. host: what are some of the things tim walz spent money on he should not have spent money on in minnesota? caller: a lot of this green energy stuff. i put it when turbines for a company for a while and stuff -- wind turbines for a company for a while. the energy crisis is for the earth itself or global warming. if we are going to do something we should be investing in nuclear power plants. they are costly and expensive

but that is the cleanest form of energy. even right now in the state of minnesota some wind turbines they upgraded, a bunch of blades are sitting on some property and they don't know what to do with them. the blades break and stuff. they are setting in that sitting in landfills. you talk about -- they are sitting in landfills. they are burying turbine blades in wyoming. we talk about being green but then we are going to something -- they don't have ways of recycling for them. we the taxpayers are paying for it. host: just a couple of minutes left here. deborah in upper marlboro, maryland. democrat. caller: thank you for taking my call. as an educator i often think

about how much i influence my students. i am so offended by what i hear donald trump saying on a constant basis. his followers. i encourage people to follow their hearts instead of this jargon given out constantly. mike ditka made a statement about an nfl player he had, the iq of a grapefruit. that is what i think when i see donald trump on television. he truly does not care about people. all he breeds his hatred and divisiveness. i truly hope people will learn to look and see three what this man really is. have a great day. host: john in bradenton, florida. independent. caller: good morning. i am an independent.

it would be nice if c-span was independent. you guys lean pretty far to the left. the teacher that was just on, that's great. she has control of what her students. i pity the parents of the students if she is teaching students that donald trump is not the right person. she shouldn't have a political opinion in her classroom. i listened to kennedy. kennedy enlightened me to some things. i didn't know if you are in nato you had to buy all your weapons from the weapons manufacturers of the united states so all the weapons are the same. that way they can cross borders and use the same repair parts. i didn't know that is why biden encouraged them to be part of nato. that is what putin invaded,

because biden was assisting to put weapons on the border of ukraine and russia. is the cuban missile crisis 60 years later. that is why we have to change our government, change what is going on. we have a lot of elections going on here in florida. we are voting for commissioners. why are commissioners republican or democrat? why do local politicians have a political party? host: that is john in florida. reno in phoenix, arizona. independent. good morning. caller: good morning. good topic today. i'm calling on the independent line. a lot of people treat political affiliation like religion. they need to open their eyes. california is how the future

will look if we go the kamala route. i don't see what the goal is are what we are doing. they cleaned up california. they had the chinese president come visit. they cleaned up san francisco for that day. also giving money to the taliban and stuff like that. we are still giving money to the taliban. i wish the administration was held more accountable by the press. host: stick around. more to talk about this morning, including of next. we are joined by westwe will tan integrity in 2024. the stick around for that conversation. we will be right back.

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of west virginia peered we have had some extremely secure elections and confidence is high in west virginia. i'm not able to comment on the nationwide, and not there and i am not as sure in of the states as i am in west virginia. host: what specific steps have you taken in west virginia to ensure elections are secure in your state? guest: it begins with maintenance of the voter registration process and making sure those registering are citizens of west virginia and 18 years old and meet the minimum requirements. that is the beginning. most people focus on election day and in west virginia we have for voting, both absentee and

early voting for 10 days prior to the actual elections. to give people a number of options as to how they choose to vote. if we want to make sure especially on election day the machine seven tested for logic and accuracy in that all 55 counties are using the express vote system that produces a paper trail. all of the basics are covered with regards to elections in west virginia. there is also the tabulation and that is very important because that is where the final results occur and that is six days after the election when any ballots that have come in through mail, provisional ballots are determined by the canvassing board and that is when you get the final results. the three main components come registration, voting and

tabulation. you have to have all three of those. when you do that, if you let the voters know about the steps accurate and in the confidence shanked up and that is what we have seen in west virginia. we are impacting all three areas of that. and i can get more about security. every voter who has an iphone can take a picture and send it in if you see voter intimidation taking place or see somebody campaigning where they are not supposed to in those sort of things. so everyone at that precinct can become part of the investigative department. that is important because it can be transmitted immediately to the investigations unit and we can get to any precinct within an hour to address the situation and start taking witness statements. the focus of that is to deter

things from happening to begin with. those are some steps we have taken to ensure integrity. host: on the voting it, is west virginia one of those that allows meal in voting and has got boxes? where does your state fall in that? guest: we don't have drop boxes. i have the object to the drop boxes. we have a dropbox that is called the u.s. postal service there is no reason to have an unsecured or unsupervised dropbox on a street corner somewhere because but that does is invites opportunities for fraud and for activities to occur. our code says it must be dropped off to the county clerk in the office. as far as absentee voting, we don't have vote -- vote by mail other than the absentee process.

we have 11 specific reasons. say you are out of state on business or in the military or those sorts of things or you are not able to go because you are in the hospital, those are specific reasons the legislature has given people to vote absentee. each one is verifiable. if you put them a reason that you will be on vacation out of state, and that is verifiable by the clerk and neighbors and witnesses. i think we are one of about 16 it that require somebody to list a reason why they are voting absentee and that is why confidence is high in west virginia with regards to the actual voting that will be done by people who are properly registered and meet the qualifications. host: there are some states that have all mail in voting. you think that should be not allowed when it comes to a federal election? guest: it shouldn't be and i

will refer back to the carter high for ----- carter-baker in that report said that vote by mail is the means by which most if there is going to be fraud, that is where it will come from. the further you get away from the precinct where your voting under the proper supervision of trained observers from both parties the further you get away from that, the more likely there is opportunity for something nefarious to happen. think about those and if the husband or wife picks it up or sun and what keeps them from voting for the other. they recommend to get away from that and move closer to the election. voting closer and closer to the election day provides more confidence that the elections are being done properly. i will refer back to the

election with hillary clinton and how the fbi went back and forth as to whether the emails she had done and whether, they first were saying against her and then for her and that was occurring four days prior to the election. in the 2020 election, the situation with the hunter biden laptop that was mentioned by president biden that was mentioned in those debates, that occurred close to the election and if you had already cast your vote prior to that you might want to change your vote. that is why i am an advocate that the closer to the election day and voting on election day and with a paper back up under the watchful eye of trained observers will provide the most secure result. host: i should note for viewers

that we had another secretary of state from colorado and she will not appear in had to cancel her appearance but we are working on getting her rescheduled. so we will be able to talk and hear from her later hopefully in the coming days or week or so. the 30th secretary of state of west virginia is with us. if you have questions or comments, now is the time to call. (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for democrats, (202) 748-8002 for independents. highlighting the need for election security and prevents federal overreach in state elections. what is the federal overreach you are concerned about?

guest: that is an executive order that was put out by the biden administration early on in that administration where they pushed for all the federal agencies to submit plans as to how they are in the voter registration process and that is federal overreach because that is something that is specifically in the u.s. constitution a power left to the states. so the time, manner and place of election shall be left to state legislatures, not the federal government or the president. that is where i think that executive order is a federal overreach. what was of particular concern to so many of the secretaries of state was that there was a lack of transparency and it was not a guideline to share that with the election officials. had they done so, i want to

emphasize it is it the states had asked for assistance by the federal agencies, that is appropriate. or what happened in 1993 at the national voter registration act where congress specifically gave authority to certain agencies such as recruiting centers to help military people register. specific authorization by legislature the net is one thing. just one of the three branches of government reaching down and saying states, i want all federal agencies, to promote agriculture, education, housing and urban development, any of those, they want to make them a voter registration center. think of the duplicity and number of applications that come through those verses the

department of motor vehicles and people just coming into county clerks. these are already overworked. we don't need to add an additional burden that they have to sort through and see if it is a or duplicate and so on. that is why so many states are pushing back against that executive order. host: when you say duplicity, you are talking duplication or something nefarious? guest: the main thing is the duplicate applications. if you have already registered to the department of motor vehicles. one person comes in as john smith and then they are applying for a student loan and i get an application and put jonathan smith and then in one case it is their home address and when place it is college and in the clerk has to go through in is this the same person and they have to go through and sort it out. that is why i think the state

legislatures are in the best position to check the rules and regulations of houseman votes in that state. host: let's talk to callers from across the country. we will start in harrisburg, bill, independent. caller: good morning. the topic, i would say it is a great topic but for the fact that i think it just continues the myth that the united states of america electoral process is somehow inherently flawed and this you can draw a straight line to the big lie and we all know it -- who the big liar is. does the secretary of state have anything to say about the fact that this amounts to docs in the

electoral system where we are doing countless investigations of whether it is a viable or not and looking at this as if it is a huge issue. and it quite simply is not. i think that the secretary of state, your guest does a disservice to the electoral process and the fate of the people have in the faith that the people have -- that the faith that the people have. guest: what brings to mind is a couple of things. the first is, we need to have people confidence the election process and i will point back to the 2020 election with the hunter biden laptop, one that i am particularly aggrieved by.

antony blinken with the biden campaign is the one that planted the idea that the hunter biden laptop was russian disinformation when he knew it wasn't. in the former acting director of the cia ran with that and got the so-called experts, all using the color of their authority that they were former intelligence experts to say it was a false document and it was put out to the american people. if you are talking a big lie, that was a big light and was purposely done. that is not my pinion but sworn testimony under the house judiciary committee where he admitted that and did it for the purpose to help biden get elected. that was a purposeful lie and psychological operation pulled off on the american people and was successful. biden use that in the debate just prior to the 2020 election and it was never covered by the

mass media to address that that they were the ones lying, not the russians in the hunter biden laptop. host: does that say about voting confidence in the country? guest: we should not live to the american people. we need to have american voters doing critical thinking. now we are giving generative ai and deepfakes and i message to america is to get ready for the 2024 election is to watch out for that. don't just watch one news source. watch as many as you can use your own critical judgment and make sure that before you cast your vote we are not just playing one side or the other but doing critical thinking. host: hollywood, florida, this is nelson, line for republicans. caller: good morning, gentleman. mr. warner, thank you for being on and discussing this. i am a 70 five years old and

have been voting since 1972. i don't think i have ever missed an election and have always had good confidence in the elections and the results of the elections except for 2020, and that is because of the fact that several states changed their laws in midstream and a couple of states even violated their own state constitutions, and this led to my questioning the integrity of the results of that particular test. i am curious, and i understand you only want to speak regarding your expertise with your state, but since you are an expert and since you are involved in this, what is your opinion as to the possibility of repetition of 2020, and i believe that donald

trump still has a valid argument. guest: thank you for that question. if there is one message i want people to take away from today's conversation and this would be the main one, and that is concerned over votes outside the law. i am not saying for legal but a vote that is outside the law. when you ask the question, i have as many concerns about the 24 -- 2024 election as to both outside the law as i was with what happen in 2020. a vote outside the law is when the state legislature says the ballots has to be in by the close of polls on election day but a state decides we are going to accept ballots three days after the election and that is what happened in pennsylvania. those that came in after that i would say are outside the law or they might be legitimate and they may have met all the standards of being 18 years old and a resident of the state but

it came outside of the law. and that is what the states have not addressed. that is the main lesson we should have learned and very few states have done it. wisconsin tried to address that with drop boxes. they used drop boxes and 2020 that was outside of the law and there was no authority to do so. the state supreme court came back and said we will use no more drop boxes in constant unless the state legislature authorizes it. but then there was a change of the supreme court that went from one political party to the other and the supreme court said back to drop boxes being ok and the legislature has not addressed that. that is what we should do across the united states with lessons that within from 2020 that the mass mailing of ballots and vote outside the law would be somebody who doesn't sign a ballot. now we have the situation to secure that and call the person

and have them come in and that should be addressed by the legislature in securing votes as authorized or not authorized. you had one situation where some counties allowed securing of ballots in other counties did not allow it. now you have an inn's consistency a fair election. how fair is it in one county that might be strongly one party in the county strongly and other and they have different rules by which they go by depending on what the county court feels like. that is my major concern is votes cast outside of the law and those are gaps we should be closing to provide confidence that the elections are free and fair. host: you have been the secretary of state's 2016, what happened in 2020 in west virginia? were there any legislative changes that changed the way people voted in 2020 due to covid? guest: what happened in 2020 is

our government knew the primary -- moved the primary and covid did change the voting. i want to get back to an earlier question that the vote by mail, here in west virginia since i have been secretary, we have taken of the voters list almost 400,000 names, i didn't say people, i said names, names of people who were deceased, moved outside of the state, have duplicate registrations. the registration simply wasn't kept up-to-date and list maintenance wasn't done prior to my taking office. in the small state of west virginia where we have 1.1 million registered voters and take a 400,000 names, we handed in 3000 200 live residents, so the total numbers haven't changed dramatically, but the

thing is, you don't want to send ballots out to 400,000 people had it not been maintenance and in mailboxes that no longer live there or were deceased. think about the opportunity for fraud. that compared with the votes outside the law, major concerns and we talk about what happened in other states. as i mentioned earlier, we have addressed that by our state legislative process that you have to have a reason to get an absentee ballot and this is why the voter confidence is extremely high. host: the list maintenance, is that the terminology you prefer and what do you think of terms like "voter purging" or quote role scrubbing? guest: list maintenance is what is required by law that every two years the clerks will do the cleanup.

but there was no enforcement mechanism to make people clean up the lists. there were two parts of that, one was they made the department of motor vehicles a registration system nationwide. that was one aspect of it, but the other aspect was they would do this maintenance every two years but there was no enforcement mechanism. that is my point back to the votes outside the law. we need to have an enforcement because what happens when someone cast a vote outside the law? should it be that the vote doesn't count? similar to what we have with the miranda rights if you don't read it to them then you can use it in court. that would be the equivalent saying we can't count the ballot because it was outside of the law. what if it is not the voters all but the clerk or weep put it in a dropbox of the didn't sign it, although sorts of things. if the board of canvassers

decide to count the vote, it is on the voter or the clerk or the canvassers. that is what i would like the state legislatures to address, specific -- specifically how they decide the votes will be registered and tabulated. host: mac warner our guest taking your questions. brooklyn new york, democrat, good morning. caller: good to hear from you. glad to hear you are basically speaking rationally and whatever political point of view doesn't the -- seem to be clouding you doing your job. you talked about votes outside the law and that raises sessions about what rights people have if they are in public office to deny the validity of the fact that is found in the last court of appeals. it seems to me that once all of

the appeals that trump brought in 2020 were completed, he had an obligation as a public figure to accept the law as written but the fact passed down by the court. spending four years discussing the results of those cases and stating facts that don't conform to the last ruling of the last available work seems to be far more dangerous because we saw what happened on january 6 that he riled up enough people by telling that some facts are a or b, than they had the justification to become violent. do you think the presence should be allowed and candidates should be allowed to openly misstate the facts found by the last available work to advance their political agenda? the inauguration crowd at the beginning of his term, now he is

doing something again by denying kamala harris'size of crowds and he denies the facts and they are not valid. guest: you're asking some great questions today. let me begin by the first comment you made and i appreciate you recognizing that when i come at this, i spent a career in the military. military is trained to leave the politics out. our job is to accomplish a mission and obey orders as they are lawful orders. that is what happens every morning when i step into the statehouse grounds. the politics go away. it is my job to run and fair elections regardless of political party or ideology.

that is the first part. i also happen to be a lawyer so i appreciate that you are making that whatever the court of last resort is, we are obligated to follow that. i would make the caveat that the courts sometimes get it wrong and we have seen this with the national debate on oro and dobbs in the supreme court changes his mind over time. there are a number of cases that have changed dramatically the american landscape depending on what a particular court decides. i will point to one relative to the conversation we are having right now and i understand a court in california has upheld a lower court decision that this voting by mail is proper in california. i would disagree with the decision that even though a vote may be invalid in cast by mail,

that doesn't dilute the voters. i think that is a political agenda being decided by the courts and i would hope that is appealed to the u.s. supreme court for a final arbitration decision in that matter. so i would abide by the latest decision even though i disagreed with it because that is my obligation to uphold latest court decision until a higher court hears it. a great question. that is where i come on that situation. host: are you term limited as secretary of state? guest: i am not. we have discussed it and i support term limits but the secretary of state term limited. host: are you running again? guest: no, i ran for governor unsuccessfully and will be turning over the reins in january. host: what are your plans after that. guest: the good lord has

something in store for me. hopefully somewhere in the administration in west virginia. i don't plan to go somewhere unless called to do so. there is no place like west virginia. but we will see what the good lord has in store for me. host: heading to ohio, jay, republican. caller: mr. warner, i have a question and comment. after the 2020 election, i decided to start working at the polls, just to see what the process is for myself. now with the election coming up i have a huge concern that there will be noncitizens that you have licenses. i know that we scan the license to verify and ask the person to verify who they are.

if this is the night question and then i have a comment. is there a difference between a citizen's driver's license and an noncitizen driver's license at we will be able to identify when they come to vote? and i do have a, because i know a lot of people are talking about the problems with the election in 2020. i want people to know that each state does have a website that you can go on to make sure that your account had been counted. i did that in 2020. i voted early and i went on that website and i saw that my vote was counted. my husband decided to go on the day of the election. and i went on the same election the day after and his boat had not been counted.

our went on three days later because i assumed that the influx of both that year, maybe there was a delay. and his boat still had not been counted. so that is my comment. i am hoping you can answer the issue with the license for me. guest: i wish i had a solid answer for you. i do not. that is one of them with the department of motor vehicles becoming a voter registration center. most states have worked out those issues. in west virginia, there is a small screen and you are tapping with a pen on the box that said yes you are a citizen and a registrant and 18 years old. the problem is the department of motor vehicles, the people who work there are hard-working as well and they are not trained to

look at the nuances with regards to whether someone is an eligible voter or not. don't know that there is a difference between a driver's license for a citizen versus an immigrant. a lot of people that are immigrants and we want them to have a license and be productive on the way to citizenship. i'm not sure there is a marker that indicates one or the other. the problem is when other people at the driver's license and inadvertently marked they are a citizen or don't understand the language and are just in a rush to get the drivers license and that is used as a form of identification to get a voter registration and that is a problem. i think what happened in 1993 that it was overtaken by technology.

in 1993, we didn't have a cell phone and personal computers. today it is so easy to register online vote. and you can register by your cell phone. i don't think we need to have the dmv being a part of the voter registration process. just like we talked about the 600 federal agencies. i don't think they need to do that. my office does not hand out voter registration, why should the department of motor vehicles? that is the job of the clerk who is trained and the websites have specific guidelines that you need to meet the requirements. i think it might be time to over two net 93 national voter registration act and use modern technology as the means of registering to vote. host: a massive effort to monitor voting and credits say

it threatens to undermine trust in elections. i want to ask about the voter campaign monitors at the left sites in the role you see them having on election day and specifically, what is and isn't proper interaction between monitors in the poll workers themselves. guest: i can see both sides of it. one side is that we don't want people there who would intimidate voters from coming or suppress a desire to vote and the other side says we want transparency and we want to see that everything is being done properly. i understand both sides. it is up to the state legislature. in west virginia, you can't campaign and the supreme court said you can't campaign within 100 feet of the precinct. we need to keep the critical activities and the parties outside the perimeter so once people step inside they are not harassed and they feel comfortable and confident to

cast their vote. so here in west virginia, you are not allowed to be inside the precinct and voting location unless you are in the process of voting or you are one of the poll workers. i want to go back very quickly into a shout out. i want people to be poll workers. if you have questions about the election process, fairness, conspiracy theories, be a poll worker. let's get more people to work the polls and take care of the younger people. so many people workers are senior citizens and we need to get younger people. we had one high school in west virginia where they got 12 high school students to work the polls in the primary election. it can be done. it is a matter of incentivizing the students and letting them know you have to be 18 and a registered voter but other than that you get paid for it. so if you have any interest at all, please become a poll worker.

host: what about the election monitors? guest: that is up to state legislatures whether they want to let them be in and how close they should be and it should be decided by the state legislature. that goes back to the article one section four of the u.s. constitution that says the time and place of elections shall be done by the state legislature. the manner of the election would address whether the poll workers were watches and where they can be and so on. host: on the pitch for people to become poll workers, there was a poll recently and i don't know if you saw it, on the confidence in the election process, people who have worked at polls in the united states and have a greater confidence in elections in the country that in this country. no surprise to you on that? guest: i am glad you mentioned that.

i have not seen that poll but i'm glad you have cited it. we will see the checks and balances in the system as a poll worker and i am sure your confidence will go up. host: jade in jacksonville, florida, independent. caller: good morning. i am a citizen, born and raised in jacksonville, florida. one of the things i am worried about. i want my freedom as an american to have my own choices and don't want my choices to be taken away from me. is there something i have to worry about? host: as you turn on -- down your television, what is your question specifically? caller: the question i have is

what i still get to live the life i am living as an american? host: if what? i don't quite understand your question. caller: the question is, i want my freedom and don't want my choices to be taken away from me. guest: if i am right, that is what the political process and primaries are all about is to let the republican party present their lists and the democrats present their list and the voters get to choose which candidates they want according to the party and then moving into the general election, this coming week the democratic convention will formally make kamala harris the residential nominee. the republicans have already done that for donald trump and then you have the choice between those two people. if you want somebody else, then

think in west virginia, know that robert kennedy junior has submitted the requisite number of signatures to be on the ballot, so he will be on the ballot here. those would be the choices and a couple others have made the cut off. you will have those choices outside of that if you want somebody else, and that is what the political process is about to get involved in that process and support a particular candidate so they can make that cut off in the primary process get all of this is laid out by each state legislature and you will have the choices but you may be limited in the choices by the political party process. host: time for one or two phone calls with mac warner, secretary of state of west virginia. this is robert in texas, democrat. caller: have a question to ask. why is it that only had problem

with elections when donald trump took office? let's eat won the first election, he said they stole the vote from him. ever since then, he has been telling the same light over and over and went to court and he is still saying he lost. everyone knows, why are people so dumb? they will go to jail for him and realize the time. host: got your question. guest: robert, i appreciate that. unfortunately it is not limited to just one party. you might remember after the 2016 election hillary clinton claims that was stolen from her. stacey abrams claims the government -- governorship was stolen from her. it happens in both parties. they are americans and free to speak their minds and their opinions. the issue becomes, and i will

get back to the point of the votes cast outside the law for these cases went to court and court turned them down for various reasons and not getting to the merits of the case. those candidates have a reason to make the arguments if they think their case for the election was stolen or not fair. that is what i think we need to learn the lessons from and have legislatures address those come whether it is a republican claim or a democratic claim. i appreciate the question because it does raise a valid point on both sides of the aisle. host: last call from texas, robert, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. my daddy was a union president, and i ran for city council in

texas once in liberty county because they claimed a kid stole a pen and he end up getting strangled from a chain and died on his own blood. host: i am running short on time. what is your question? caller: a question is this, is this going to be a fair election ? of the chinese trying to interfere with the election as i have done in the past and the russians? guest: great question. yes, the chinese will be trying to, the russians, iranians and north koreans are constantly trying to penetrate our election system. we have great sensors in place to sense that. i had the national guard working with us in marshall university working with the institute of cybersecurity to make sure the elections are safe.

i am sure the nation as the proper protocols in place to protect the election system. i think you can have the confidence that our department of homeland security is handling those attacks on the election process electronically through cyber. my biggest concern and i mentioned it earlier, was our own agency is misleading us because of a political agenda. now we are getting back to the hunter biden laptop situation. we cannot have the own former cia agents and fbi -- the cia former agents and then the fbi covered it up because they knew the hunter biden laptop was real and the fbi went to social media , facebook and said suppress it and facebook went along with it. that is my biggest concern is the insidious inside our own nation lying to the american people.

one said i don't have to attack the united states, with they will implode themselves. and that is my main concern with security in our elections. i haven't seen it yet but we saw three months until the election. keep the critical thinking hat on across the nation, become a poll worker and be part of the process to increase your confidence. i really appreciate this discussion this morning. host: mac warner, the 30th secretary of state of west virginia. i appreciate your time. guest: thank you. host: coming up, we turn the program over to you with the open forum, any public policy, issues, campaign 2024. phone lines for republicans, democrats and independents are on your screen right now. we will get to your calls after the break.

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forum, any public policy or issue you want to talk about, a very busy week on campaign 2024. plenty of events to talk about. phone numbers to call in, for republicans, -- phone number to call in for republicans (202) 748-8001, democrats (202) 748-8000, independents (202) 748-8002. weiltake you to an event in milwaukee where jd vance wl be holding a campaign event and speaking rally-goer's there. you can watch on c-span, c-span.org and the free mobile app. and later this afternoon at 2:45 p.m. eastern tim a president kamala harris i to be ging an

econic policy speech. it is airing live on c-span and also in c-span.org and also on c-span.org in the free c-span now video app. plenty to watch today and we will get into more of the schedule over the course of the next hour and let you know. want to hear from you and let you leave this discussion. this is mark in little river, south carolina come up first, republican. good morning. caller: good morning. first of all, he comments on the previous guest as far as securing elections and everything. i feel with all the technology we have today, thumb, everything else, why don't we have one major method of voting.

i know there are some exceptions for people who are away and in war and everything else but with all technology we have in this country that we should be able to have some better type of voting. host: one nationwide is what you are saying? because i ask that the diversity of voting systems in this country are often described as a feature and there are so many different systems one by the individual states that the net weight it makes it harder for anybody to interfere with elections. caller: i guess you have a point there, but it also seems to complicate things and puts people from. but there has got to be some way. if we can have a baking system the whole country runs under,

there has to be something simple or fear that it. thank you. host: that is mark bringing up the previous guest. i didn't want to note we had been scheduled to talk more about election security getting a different perspective on that from a democratic secretary of state from the state up colorado she was scheduled to join us this morning and couldn't make it. we will reschedule that and we will have that conversation with her in the days and weeks to come. we will let you know when that gets reschedule. bill in venice, florida, independent. caller: i am calling about your prior guest in the issue of possible election fraud. for me it begins with this, there is fraud involved with the person you want to vote for

isn't on the ballot to vote for them. we do have more than two parties in this country and they get together, the to do to keep everybody off the ballot except those two. i am afraid that c-span goes along with it because everything is about the two parties, the republicans and democrats who have worked together to keep anybody else off of the ballot to vote for it in the first place. host: we try really hard not to make this just about the two parties. we have phone lines specifically for independence to get that voice into the discussion on a daily basis. caller: but an independent isn't the third party. list the two parties but not any others. an independent is a broad stroke. host: what third-party are you

particularly partial to? caller: the only one usually on the ballot in all states. you should at least be aware of that and that is the libertarian party. if they are on the ballot in all states the same weight that the r's and d's are, they should be listed. host: for libertarians, you might be interested, c-span for years has been covering freedom fast, a gathering of multi--- mostly libertarian and author talks and we are them on book tv. several are set to air this weekend and next weekend, interviews. on sunday mornings. you can check out those authors.

caller: it is great and i love to watch freedom fast. once again it is about voting. if a person isn't on the ballot, all this about fraud in the vote count, if you are not on the ballot to begin with, the whole thing doesn't make sense. host: we will head to maine, dale, a republican. whereabouts in maine are you? caller: i am very far north up in presque isle. host: go ahead. caller: thank you for taking my call. it is the first time i have ever called. i wanted to make a comment that we have a lot of information in front of us and that should help us in november on who the candidate is. one of the things people need to

stick it -- take a step back and look at is, the current administration is part of kamala harris, it is the biden-harris administration. you need to relook at what she is going to offer and look at the last four years and what she has contributed and what she has done. and for trump, look at the four years before. i know we have heard this many times that people just need to make a decision for themselves, were you better off under trunk or better off right now. the key issues we need to look at, not look at the person's color or necessarily whether you like them. i was in the corporate world for 48 years and i learned a long time ago that you may not always agree or like the person that is leading but what do they contribute?

are things better under them or are things not? so it is willie my comment is more to me bipartisan because take the information you have on immigration, abortion, the economy and make a decision that way, not because of the person's looks or necessarily reputation. i think we have so much information out there that people sometimes overlook it and become a popularity contest. that is my comment for today. host: kamala harris will be in raleigh, north carolina. that is where sophia is, independent. -- caller: i have a question. this is on abortion. i will try to make them pretty quickly. years ago, ron paul ran for the

republican nomination for president, and i remember listening to his comments about abortion. he was an obstetrician. i wonder if you have this tape because i still remember it. he said he had delivered about 1000 babies and not one had to be aborted, no medical necessity. out of 1000 babies he delivered. i wonder if he would passively have that take and that brings me to my part about abortion -- host: a good place to go is the c-span archives, 577 different videos with ron paul speaking. you can search those by comments made in those speeches, so that would be a great place for you to go if you are looking for a specific event. what is your other comment quickly? caller: it is about republican and democrats regarding

abortion, i have a problem with both sides. on the liberal side, i listen to tons of news, i never hear them say the word "baby" in any kind of good light. i always hear rights to the woman over and over. never hear the word baby. i do believe in abortion for medical necessity, but 60 million women who have gotten abortions, i don't agree with the democrats when they say we should trust women who are there for abortion on demand, that means for any reason. i personally know of people who had abortions and they were not for medical necessity. my heart goes out to people who really need them, and we must have great health care for that. but, no, i'm a woman and i don't trust women to have abortions just for medical necessities.

and, quickly, on the republican side, when it comes down to discussing genuine necessity, which they should have, i would love for everyone to discuss adoption, abstinence, prenatal care, helping teenagers stay in school if they get pregnant financially, i never hear that either. those are my two quick comments. we really need to value the life of the baby and of the mother, -- host: got your points in north carolina. phil, florida, republican. caller: good morning. happy to talk with you. i've been watching c-span for a long, long time, ever since way back. i'm calling basic because my wife was looking on the computer at news, and almost every day, we are seeing a lot of reports

on food problems, recalls constantly, people getting poisoned. it used to be dogs. now it is people. i would like to know why nobody is on the air, and on the computer you can find the information, but on air, i've never heard you discuss it. something has got to be done. host: we have done food recall segments in the past. we probably have not done one recently. you are right on that front. it is something we did intentionally in the past because i posted one or two in the past. caller: i must have missed that. host: there is a program every day, three to four topics every day, so it is ok if you miss something. caller: i would just like to hear more about that. i would like somebody to investigate what the devil is going on with our food industry. i sincerely believe in this

because they are putting all kinds of illegals and there to do this work. and i'm sure without a doubt there is a certain amount of problems going on with them sabotaging things in the food industry to get to us, and the other question i have got, i've been watching "washington journal" four years off and on. lately, i cannot get through and i get cut off. are you still watching this? of course i am or he would not be there. i get cut off every day if i don't be careful and watch it, and then when you get back on, you have to re-sign on. i don't understand why it is doing that. why can't you give us three hours of watching time so we can complete the whole "journal" and i would not be cut off. host: i'm not sure what you are talking about, maybe it is an

issue with the cable subscriber but not something i can troubleshoot, i apologize. caller: i'm not a cable subscriber, i mccord cutter -- i'm a cord cutter. i just cannot get through the program all the way without getting cut off every two hours. and then it locks up, and then you click on it and you have to restart the whole system all over again. host: cord cutting is a real thing that impacted c-span, and it is happening. we are in the middle of a summer fundraising drive right now, and if you have been watching c-span for a long time and have appreciated it for a long time, you can financially support us to continue to provide you with the unfiltered view of government that hopefully you have come to love. c-span.org/donate is where you can go to make your gift.

and in the summer fundraising drive, there is an anonymous donor who promised to match your gift through the end of the month. just a note on that if it is something that you appreciate. thank you for the call. roger, wisconsin, independent. caller: good morning. how are you today? let me make three points quickly. when you talk about election integrity, i have to question and bring in the electoral college because to me of the popular vote does not win, then i have to question whether we live in a democracy. i'm not saying you should eliminate the electoral college, but it is an easy fix, allow the electoral college in every state to have whatever percentage went to a republican or democrat, that is the way they break it

up. that way, the electoral college does reflect exactly what we are talking about, and that is the will of the people with just a popular vote. that is one thing when you talk about election integrity that needs to be addressed. the other thing is, election integrity, it has been proven that we have a very, very safe election system. granted, there are the locals with a few flaws, but when you look at all these cases that were recounts, does anybody have any idea what the cost to the united states is when a candidate decides that he does not want to accept the outcome of the state? where do you stand on this? i think all of this gets to be a little on the nutso side. it is not that we like integrity, what we lack is everybody needs to be

persnickety about election security, but i don't think there is an integrity question. it is only an integrity question when somebody does not like the outcome. i hope you have a great day, good weekend, and i'm curious on your thoughts. host: that is roger in the badger state. to the empire state, kathleen, democrat. caller: good morning. i just would like to say that i choose love over hate, i choose my freedoms and my rights over being ruled with an iron fist. life is hard enough. you would like someone to come and tell us what and what not to do. we have to walk on angels? no way. life -- we have to walk on egg shells? no way. like is too hard.

host:host: that was kathleen in new york. darrell, michigan, independent. what's on your mind? caller: i would just like to say that in michigan, we are very independent, and anything can happen, and i would like to say that brian penick or does not speak for all union members that says that we do not represent or are for the democrats because most of us are. we know who showed up on the picket line, and we know trump did not. and that is basically what i have to say. also, when jd vance showed up at shelley township, i'm curious

where peter lucido, the county prosecutor, who is a major republican, why does he look like jimmy hoffa? host: you mentioned jd vance, we have mentioned to you will be back on the campaign trail today . he was on the campaign trail yesterday in pennsylvania at a uaw event in pennsylvania. he talked about the october 1 debate he had agreed to with tim walz, the vice presidential pick by kamala harris. this is about one minute from the event. [video clip] >> but i hope to get out of these debates is what the american people deserve to get out of seeing people who would like to see their vice president actually debate. [applause]

maybe i'm old-fashioned, but as the person asking the american people the awesome honor and responsibility of being their vice president, i think i would have to go before the american people and make the case for why i deserve to have that job. it is this grateful -- it is disgraceful that kamala harris and tim walz running from every interview and reporter. they refuse to respect the american people enough to stand before them and asked them for their vote. we ought to do as many debates as we possibly can. president trump invited kamala harris to do three debates. she agreed to one. tim walz and i agreed to do a debate on october 1 -- cnn not very friendly to me, and they would like to do a debate this september and i said, yes, absolutely because the american people deserve it. one final point, the harris campaign is not running a

political campaign, they are trying to produce a movie. she never stands before the american people without a script , she never talks to voters on the teleprompter is in the middle of them. this is not a person we should trust as it in a private room with xi jinping and vladimir putin and the leaders of america's adversaries are friends, if you are afraid of the media, then how can we possibly trust you to represent us in the world stage? we cannot, which is why we ought to fire kamala harris and not give her a promotion. [end video clip] host: jd vance yesterday, and the vice presidential debate is october 1 and the presidential debate set for september 10. there's a lot happening between now and then. our coverage of campaign trade 24 continues today through the weekend. some ents take place tomorrow, tim walz is in nebraska, 2:00

p.m. eastern when you can watch that, here on c-span, c-span.org , and the free c-span novio app. donald tru on saturday in nnlvania, 4:00 p.m. eastern tomorrow, all the same places to watc cpan, c-span.org, the free c-span now app. plenty for you to see on the c-span network and throughout the weekend. we will continue to talk about our schedule. this is ron, florida, democrat.good morning . caller: good morning. thank you for taking my call. i am a democrat, and i agree with 30 to 40% of things that republicans do. for example, being a citizen to vote. i think you ought to be a citizen to vote. i here in new york, there is some nonsense and i just disagree with that. host: are you talking about

local elections? there are precincts -- caller: yeah. and the other thing i wanted to say is that people are worried that a paris that's in there, about the military and everything else, she's going to have advisors. there is no independent president who does not listen to advisors. my opinion is that president trump thinks he knows it all and he would not listen, and i think the outcome would be somewhat negative. in the last point i would like to make is there something going on here in florida. i think florida is a battleground state right now. i've already seen on the television rick scott ads and powell, the democrat running against him, i think she's going

to win, and i think florida will flip this year, and even at the presidential level, florida is no longer a guarantee. i talked to all my neighbors and other people ever i go out shopping, things like that, i think a lot of people feel that way. thank you. host: that was ron in florida. this is john in florida, republican. caller: yes, my main question is why don't all the states have the same things for voting? the problem is the voting system is out of control because nobody is paying attention to the laws. we have laws in this country and they are all pushed aside. you have nevada -- host: john, you have to turn

down your tv because i can hear you. in nevada what? caller: yes, nevada, you have all these people with mail-in ballots that were dead and did not live there and changed. they have to change that system. you have a lot of these friend states not checking on the voter rolls, and the fact that these other states are giving drivers licenses to noncitizens, there should be a total way to prove a person is a citizen because that is how the country started. everybody has a right to vote. but you cannot let these other people in, and the democrats, but i would like to know is what gave the president the right to break the law and allow all these people to come into this country and not have a place to live? not a place to work?

and billy are going to take everything away from the citizens? i don't know how anybody could vote democrat because kamala harris is not know which way is up. host: cleveland, ohio, robert. good morning. caller: good morning. i was in the meat industry for 60 years. the problem we have with meat is extreme. they have all these inspectors, and all they are gone. all they do now is look in, and if it is not damaged or infected, they let the beef go through. most of the companies that make processed meat, most of the ingredients is salt. they have to put salt to preserve it, and a lot of us cannot eat that salt. dimitri called is already gone -- the meat that is recalled is already gone and people have

bought it, ate it, and now it is gone. they don't come back to every store and say i would like to meet back, i'm recalling it. it is not happen that way. they sell that meat and by the time the recall comes through, it is gone. they need inspectors in the plants that process, make and cook the meat. they need inspectors there before it gets out to the people. once it gets out to the people, it is sold. host: thank you for the insight into the meat industry. what is the best part about working in the meat industry and what is the worst part? caller: the best part is you will always have a job. you will never be out of work. you can always find a job in the meat industry. whether it be in the packinghouses, slaughterhouses, or the retail level, you will always find a job. that is one good thing. the bad thing is the safety you

don't have in the meat industry for the workers. it is cold, wet, damp, and it is not safe for a lot of the workers. you have knives, you cut each other, and you are so packed together in a room on a conveyor belt that they cut each other. and now they went to automation, where they use machinery to cut the meat up and process it, there is no inspection. it comes into the store two weeks old already, and it is hanging in the plant four weeks. they don't have inspectors that they use. therefore, our meat industry is dangerous. every time you arrest an immigrant, he works in those

plants, now you will bring a child labor so you don't have to pay them that much. you don't have to pay a child as much as an adult. those are the problems. host: robert in ohio in the meat industry. it is open forum. we have 40 minutes left in our program today. this is john, pennsylvania, independent. good morning. caller: yes, i'm calling about something that has been stuck in my crawl, it is about the senators on both sides of the aisle living in their offices in washington. they go to washington and live there. a couple of years back is when i heard this story, there were 250 something of them that went to washington and lived in their office, -- host: more likely a house member than a senator. i remember the stories about when they stay in washington sleeping in their offices, is that what you are talking about? caller: yes, and it comes to

mind every time i see homeless people on the street and other the things the republicans would like to do to basically hold those them out of their because they are on state and federal properties, and the counties have to clean up, trash people, and everything. and here we have these senators who live there in their offices, and they have housekeeping staff, maintenance staff, if they break a spring in the couch, they get a new couch. and with all the other perks they enjoy anyway, and like i say, i realize it is nothing but a grain of salt when it comes to the federal budget, but why are they allowed to do that when they are not doing anything different than someone who sets up a tent on the sidewalk or a city park? their wages are higher left, they go down there, they don't rent rooms, and they would like to say it is closer to my work and all this and that. that is crap because they make

enough wage to go to work. the public buildings are closed certain hours of the day and open to the public, and why are they open for squatters to come in there? host: the federal salary for most membership is $170,000 a year. mitt romney said that lawmakers should get more than that so they don't have to sleep in their schism that they are not making enough to be able to pay for a place to live in d.c. for the time they are here and then go home and have a place to live. he points out that members of congress have not gotten a raise since 2009. caller: then let them negotiate a higher wage that allows them to go there. look at what the city itself is losing, hotel rooms, taxes,

everything else. if that is the case that they don't make enough money, it seems to me like i could live on hundred $74,000 a year, but the point i'm making is what is the difference? what's the difference than somebody who has no money and sets up a tent and sleeps on a park bench? they would like to bulldoze them people out, and here we have people making $174,000 a year, and housing, last i knew, was not furnished, and it has stuck in my crawl because it has never been right back up. with other perks they have, it does not seem like it is right, that other people with the same flesh and blood get put out and bulldozed out, anything else, talked about and denigrated, when we have these senators who show up in washington for a week or two weeks and then just squat in their office.

that is my point. it is a very small thing but i'm the kind of guy when i go into a room and there is nobody in there and there's a light on, i turn it off. i don't see the use of that kind of thing. host: thank you for the call. this is kirk, ohio, republican. you are next. it is open forum. caller: hi. i will be real short. if you would read the inflation reduction act, i think you would be shocked. as far as abortion in ohio because we lost the vote, our abortion rate is 11%, and the only other thing i have to say, is no man is responsible for another man's actions, so let's stop pointing fingers at people and point them at yourself. host: what was the most shocking thing you found in the nation reduction act -- the inflation

reduction act? caller: they are giving money to climate people that are actually giving that money to people who are protesting. they are buying votes is what they are doing. you know what i'm saying? just read the whole thing and it is amazing. if you look that up, you will see it. host: joyce, las vegas, democrat . caller: thank you for taking my call. i've been watching c-span for a long time. i would like to request two things from c-span, you just showed that clip about vance, quite a few people get up there and say the american people would like this.

they are not talking for all the american people because they have not talked to all the american people. you have a person on their -- can you hear me? host: yes ma'am. caller: you have an american person from the democrats, republicans and independents on c-span, and you don't have them speak about their experience just like you have the republicans, have one of us, irregular person, and give their point and see what american people are really watching. host: that is kind of what we try to do every day, especially with this open foreign that we create. figuring segments, as well, the whole draw of the show is you, the viewers. caller: what i'm saying is actually have them where you are. you know how you have clips

where i can see them talking and then they ask questions? have american people ask questions and let them ask questions because american people have not requested all of the stuff they are saying. thank you. host: this is great, colorado, independent. -- this is ray, colorado, independent. what is on your mind? caller: one of your callers, bill, was asking other voices like the libertarian party. here i am, associated with the libertarian party, i would like to bring attention to a pending court case that could impact it was listed as our party nominee on the colorado ballot this year. for those who would like the

case number, it is 2024cv578. at the center of all of this is the libertarian party of colorado passed resolutions to not only recognize chase oliver as the presidential nominee for the party, but they are trying to get the kennedy ticket on as our party's ticket. well, hollis, who happens to be our national secretary, will, he is taking our state party to court as a private resident. i would encourage anyone who is interested to follow this case. the case number is 2024cv578

and you can look up that case to the colorado court website, coloradojudicial.gov. host: i found this story from colorado politics' website, a standoff on which canning presidential ticket on colorado's ballot. in thank you for pointing out the case number, as well. bryan, ohio, republic. community. -- good morning. caller: good morning. i have a couple of quick questions. it is pretty simple. how many votes did kamala harris actually get by we the people? it seems like we are having a constitutional situation. at no point did anybody vote for joe biden's friend, kamala harris. that is my first thing, we are already having crisis issues

with our constitution and elections. my other comment would be every person in this country has a social security number, we file taxes, every person has a driver's license number, we drive down the street. to make it simple and easy, we also print on every bill that we have printed a number. if our elections are not integral and we do not have an actual valid that has got some sort of identifying mark on it because the gentleman who called earlier about voter id, it is so obvious to everyone in the world, not just the u.s., that if you don't have proper elections, you might as well take your money and throw it in the trash. through your savings in the trash, you know? throw all of your property in the trash because at no point is

this a country where elections cannot be managed. we can figure out how to manage charter printer money, get people legally driving down the streets, and you know the taxman will show right up with your social security number and be sure to tax you. so it is a crisis. nobody voted for kamala harris. she got no votes by we, the people. can anybody explain that? host: florence, marion, the yellow hammer state, independent. caller: i would like to say that i'm so tired of people acting -- host: acting what? caller: acting like they cannot pronounce the vice president kamala harris' name. we have an ex-president who is

about as dumb as they come, we have a young fool and an old one. in everything's about the poor people. the only person he things about is the rich. we know the price is high, but harris, the already worked out something about the price gouging. the reason these prices are high , they negate it, and another thing, anybody -- i'm a woman, i would not dare go against a vote for someone who would talk about somebody else's wife and he has a wife, of course, when she came on the stage, he does not know how to hug her or kiss her or

anything like that. host: on grocery prices, we will hear more on that from the vice president today with a campaign event in raleigh, according to "the washington post," she will unveil the ban on price gouging in the food industry. "the washington post" puts it as a populist proposal. she is also going to talk about drug prices. we heard about that yesterday in maryland in the event witth president of the united states, and lowering housing costs. ats that 2:45 p.m. eastern, ve on c-span, c-span.org and the free c-span now app. melvin, lone star state, independent. good morning. caller: yes, the biggest problem we had in the u.s. is that illegal aliens on the southern

border. i think we should call these people who we call them deserters, they deserted their country, and we have to go back and fix our country. if they would like to live in a country, they can live in it and be proud of it. host: chicago, where the dnc takes place next week monday through thursday. kathleen, democrat. caller: i'm so glad i got in. two things, please let me get this out. when people talk about the border and they are so upset about the border, call trump and tell him to tell johnson to bring the bill up, and they were going to pass it until they said

don't do it because i need something to run on. the main thing i'm calling about , i see c-span, cnn, msnbc, and other view have put up the picture with jd vance dressed in drag. but when the democrats do it, you show it on tv and talk about it. go to youtube, and you will see that picture with jd vance with a rig on -- with a wig on and a skirt. why don't you all show stuff going on with the republican party? it is always the democrats. caller:caller: kathleen, chicago, that is where they dnc will take place next week, a story from the chicago tribune, yesterday, democrats i'm veiled the stage for the dnc -- unveiled the stage for the dnc. c-span coverage of the convention takes off on sunday 2:00 p.m. eastern in chicago, live for a one-hour preview of

this year's biggest event in decratic politics, joined by ma hill for a look at the convention hall and e themes, and the expected big-name eakers. we will also hear from the washingtonureau chief who will provide critical historical contact -- context. live, sunday, 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span and c-span.org and c-span now, our free mobile app. back to your phone calls, 20 minutes or so left in today's programl. atrisha, california, independent. caller: good morning. i have two points to make, my first is donald trump is appealing to christians, and i would like christians to read their bible and see what it says about a deceiver and lying. it is known that donald trump, every time he speaks, he tells

lie after lie after lie. and if you would like to know about a liar, read your bible. the second point i would like to make is to talk about how bad the economy is, donald trump talks about how horrible the country is. every single recent holiday that we have seen, all of the airlines have had more travelers than they ever have. these people going places are not traveling because they don't have money. that is my whole point. good day to everyone. host: to go show me state, debbie, independent. caller: good morning. on the election 2020, we have registration poles that have millions of names of people who do not exist or they are not citizens, just names. and fully addresses.

there are rooms -- and phony addresses. there are rooms where democrats pay low-wage workers to fill out balance i hundreds of thousands, and they are delivered by mules in the middle of the night and mass -- host: where have you found this information? caller: they made a bust of one of these houses. it is happening all over in the key counties in the swing states. host: so you are saying you will not trust the election? caller: no, as long as they have these mass mail ballots delivered in the middle of the night and they crammed them into the ballot boxes. it is fraudulent. host: if donald trump ends up winning the election, will you trust the election? caller: not trust it because as

long as -- there is no way to prove that these people even exist, and they don't. they are just names. and repeated names. host: this is diane, florida, democrat. caller: good morning. i would like to know how far to the left you go before you are considered a liberal. how far to the right you go before you are considered a fascist. host: where do you think that line is? caller: well, i'm looking at the 2025 group, and that looks like a fascist group. host: why does that cross the line for you? caller: when you look at the history of germany and how fascists came about, frankly, if they had had a democratic party that could have stopped the fascists from overtaking the country -- host: alina, illinois,

republican. caller: good morning. the last lady talking about fascists, i do not know what she meant by that. that is not what we are about, this country. as far as honesty and dishonesty , considering the democratic ticket, tim walz, they should look at his record. his own party considered him dishonest, and he did not go into the army like he claims. he abandoned his squadron right at the time when they were supposed to report for war. and as governor, everybody should look at a youtube video where there is a lady who worked with him. she was a minority, house

republican, and he promised to be a bipartisan representative, and when she came in, he did not care to consider the republican side and did everything opposite of what he promised them. and as far ask -- as far as kamala, she has no foreign policy whatsoever. she did not even know where ukraine was, she said it was a little country next to the russian one. kamala and tim walz, they are a gift to china. host: that is tim walz --a alina on tim walz's literary service. this is about one minute at what he said the convention on tuesday. [video clip] >> these guys are even attacking

the for my record of service. i would like to say that i'm proud to have served my country, and there always will be. with my dad's encouragement, a guy who served in the army during the korean war, i signed up for the national army guard the day after my 17th birthday. i served for the same reason all my brothers and sisters in uniform do, we love this country. in 2005, i call up duty again, this time in the halls of congress. my students inspired me to run for that all is, and i was proud to make it to washington. i was a member of the veterans affairs committee and the champion of our men and women in uniform. i'm going to say it again as

clearly as i can, i'm damn proud of my service to this country. and i firmly believe you should never denigrate another person service record. to anyone brave enough to put on that great uniform for our country, including my brave opponent, i have a few words, thank you for your service and sacrifice. [end video clip] host: that was tim walz on tuesday.this week is friday -- it is friday. we have about 15 minutes left. any topics you would like to talk to, now is your time to call in. and 15 minutes, wewill head to a discussion on new vehicle safety standards with the ntsb chair and others. you can watch it here c-span if you stick around after the program.

kathy, boca raton, independent. caller: good morning. i would like to say i'm an independent, i used to be democrat until i switched over to independent a few cycles back. i saw nancy pelosi being interviewed on one of the mainstream media's. it was august 12, 2022, and this is what she said. she said it is called a wrapup smear, you smear someone with all the rest, then you merchandising, and if they see it is reported in the press, this and this, they have that validation that the press reported the smear, and then it is called the wrapup smear, and that is when the presses report on the smear we made. it is a tactic and self-evident.

why do we pay our elected officials to lie to us? that is not what we want them to do with our money, deceiving us. president trump originally said he would cooperate with pelosi, and pelosi said she would never work with him. it was obvious they never did. and then the mainstream media, i look at fox, cnn, msnbc, all of them, i go through the channels. and every single day -- will not every single day -- a lot of times, bursting in the morning, every single one of those channels as the same phrase that they are using for the day. the last 1 -- host: how do you feel about the associated press? caller: meaning? host: do you trusthost: the associated press? caller: i don't know what the associated press is.

host: the ap, the wire service, the ap? caller: i don't listen to a lot of stuff online or anything. that, i'm not sure. host: the associated press, long time wire service, one of the oldest in the country, widely distributed. i asked because i was doing a fact-check on that from the associated press with the smear you are talking about, nancy pelosi talking out of press and 2017. here's the fact-check. it shows nancy pelosi openly admitting how democrats get the media to legitimize lies using the wrapup, the claim and the ap assessment is it is a false claim. the video of pelosi speaking at a 2017 press conference has been edited to remove context from which pelosi was describing a tactic she accused republicans

using against democrats. in other responses not shown, pelosi makes it clear she's not talking about her own party. the ap noting that the video circulated widely on instagram and has been giving to the claim closely spilled the beans on democratic smear tactics by admitting part of her answer to a question. so the ap did a fact-check on that issue you bring up. brad, maryland, democrat. caller: good morning. thank you for allowing me to be on. i have two things to talk about. one was something you mentioned about mitt romney. host: that was member pay. caller: yeah, talking about they have not gotten a raise since 2009. if i'm not mistaken, in 2018 or 2019 under the trump administration, when they wanted

to pass a budget bill, they voted about midnight, and part of the budget bill was a raise for congress, if i'm not mistaken. host: i actually do not believe they have gotten a raise since 2009. they have to actively vote for themselves to get a raise. caller: correct. host: i think that is how it works. and it has not gone up since 2009. caller: i'm going to look into that because i remember the article when it came down. as another point i wanted to make was a long the arizona border, something that does not get talked about too much. i have seen a documentary on two nice people, they went underground into the lake around -- into the realm and it came out that people on the arizona border hunting migrants, which

is appalling in my eyes that they are even over there doing that. those are two things i wanted to mention, and they will look into passing the budget and all that. maybe i will email it to you. host: i have one from march this year, lawmakers will not receive their first pay raise since 2009, that language walking the cost-of-living increase for members will be in the fiscal 2024 legislative branch will, and legislation members said that they were in agreement on removing what was known as a writer to the bill that would have given the increase. some members did supported. it did not make it into the legislative branch bill, the

one that funds the library of congress, the police department, and that is the one that runs congress itself. it did not make it into the final agreement. caller: ok. all right. thank you. appreciate your time. host: that is brad in the old line state. this is ray, louisiana. caller: i would like to make a couple of points that i have noticed when it comes to news media and everybody that is democratic, they seem to go with whoever is on stage. whoever wrote stand up there and say i will do your agenda, whether it be tim walz or kamala harris. and i do not trust the chameleon she has become because she has changed her stance on every

policy that she had when she was coming up, and i've seen a lot of videos from 2021, 2022, she was just following joe biden. now, she signed off on everything joe wanted, and now she is turning off on that, and now she is going to turn around and go mainstream. it is too late for this woman to try that. and i would not trust her in front of world leaders or to try to make a stance for the united states of america. she is just not that intelligent. i'm sorry that they are saddled with her because donald trump does not get in this time, i think we are all doing socialism and we better start saving our pennies and go to the store and get what you can because it is a total wreck of our economy.

that is my opinion. host: manny, california, independent. caller: i'm calling in reference to your previous guest, when you asked him a question about the difference in a citizens drivers license and an illegal immigrant's drivers license. in california, there is only one distinction, and it is that there is something in the right hand of the drivers license that indicates that an illegal cannot vote on federal issues. other than that, there is no other distinction. host: that is how it works in california? caller: yes. that is how it works in california. when you go into take your drivers test, you were given the

opportunity to test the vote at that time. host: i have a question on that, you can cast a vote at any time you take a drivers test or just if you are going in within the window -- the voting window within california? caller: when you go into the booth to take your drivers test, you are able to indicate whether you would like to vote at that time. host: ok we can register to vote, not cast a ballot -- you can register to vote, not cast a ballot. caller: yes. host: got you, thank you for telling us how it works in california. danielle, missouri, democrat. caller: hi, how are you? thank you for letting me talk. i have a few things. i hear a lot about republicans saying i really like how trump says what is on his mind, but i would like someone who has the

self-control to hold her tongue get a tough situation. every action does not require a reaction. they can be beneficial to hold your tongue, and it may seem elementary but that is because it is. we learn to hold our time in elementary school -- our tongue in elementary school. if republicans are so against abortion, you may want to consider men getting vasectomies because it should be fair game if my body is fair game for legislation. that is all i have. thank you for letting me talk. host: to the land of lincoln, james, republican. caller: good morning. the one thing i noticed is that everyone is quick to fact check trump. however, they are not quick to fact check biden, harris or any other democrat. in the last debate, they said trump lied profusely.

well, biden says many lies, especially when he said no one died under his watch. 13 soldiers died after the bombing, and you know that after the raid by hamas on israel, the iranians and houthis militias targeted u.s. bases in that region and many soldiers were seriously injured, with the media is silent on that. so why don't they fact-check democrats who tell profuse lies? you can say trump lies, but the democrats do, and it seems to go under the radar of the media. when we talk about decision, when democrats say they are going to symptom see, however, they use undemocratic methods to save democracy, like trying to

convict trump of something and then democratic courts have the convictions, and they tell you to -- that they are saving democracy but they do everything they try to do to silence a political opponent. even violating the 14th amendment, and, finally, the city of palm beach where trump's mar-a-lago is look at it, is trying to shut down mar-a-lago. and these are very, to me, fascist tactics, so you have to ask yourself the question, where's the freedom? also, democrats will lock down fascism, and we are finding out now that the covid vaccine does not work. biden has had the vaccine how many times?

how many times has he had covid? how many times did they tell you that with the vaccine, you can transmit covid and get it again? so what is the purpose of the vaccine? and people lost their jobs over this. host: james in illinois to jim in seattle, independent. caller: you know, we have gas lines in the 1970's, and now kamala is talking about regulating -- not talking about regulating the price of fuel, but regulating the price of food , so instead of gas lines, we are going to have redlines -- b read lines. harris' policies are going to introduce the same affects your that marxist policies have had elsewhere. can someone give us a lesson on what happens to the economy in the country when the incentives

to create and produce are destroyed? my problem is the left is that they still expect food to be produced and shelves to be stocked after they have destroyed the industry. host: a couple minutes left in our program. we will be taking you to discussion on new vehicle technology and safety standards. i would like to note before the weekends, a new face that is expected to be on capitol hill, governor phil murphy of new jersey has selected george holding, the former chief of staff, to survive the remainder of the term of senator robert menendez, was convicted of corruption and is stepping down next week, according to three people familiar with the decision. they will formally announce the selection today in new work --n newark.

elizabeth, california, democrat. caller: good morning. i'm going to comment on trump's presentation yesterday. it was indicative of what we are looking forward to in the future. they gave him a lot of bullet points which he proceeded to read through, and it seems like it is a trail run for the 2025 projects because they do not it is trump cronies and many people, the majority of people that i have seen discuss it are from the trump administration, formerly. and they mentioned abortion to hundred times. they want to eliminate that for women. there are destructive things in there for the military.

people need to familiarize themselves because if they are going to stand trump up and he -- let us face it. he is over the hill. and, he is going to spend his time on the golf course like he did before. and they are going to implement these horrific policies under his name. speaking of inflation -- host: i have to 30 seconds. give it to me quick. caller: the rosy glow of looking back at trump, we went through a worldwide pandemic. host: we will end up there. that will do it for washington journal. we will be back here tomorrow morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern and 4:00 p.m. -- 4:00 a.m. pacific. we take you to that event on new vehicle technology. live coverage on c-span. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2024] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its