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bass, so him as soon glorifying that in violence. these are the children of ice as members that growing up in a refugee camp in ridge of ne, in syria, is, is a violent environment. if you leave the children back here, then you can say, this will be the next generation of ice despite this. oh, whoa, is the largest of the camps in the region and it's considered the most dangerous in the world. and whole will turn into a ticking time bomb for further and future terrorist organizations in 2019 cody slid. forces succeeded in taking back the region from isis rule. but the militant group remains the threats that keep that o j headed just to find out how can we put an end to isis control the 1st off uh to the organ ization. and it's idea. ology still exist here,

but the including in the prisons where isis, terrorist, so it's being held since the end of the fighting by the autonomous code is government. the controls northeast and syria. a german is, it gives us a heads up. we have about $12000.00 isis prisoners, a close of us economy can cope with that on its own. the codes who live here feel abandoned and they run the threat from the neighbors. the turkish president re chip tight, add one say to a terrorist. turkey has launched repeat a defensive scene where java a mccurdy still make it based in brussels together with google on the cookies journalist. i'm traveling to read java in northeast and syria. often many attempts we finally been given permission to visit some of the most dangerous places in the

region. we want to find out what the legacy of the fight against ices means. the original ever and it's people it's october 2021. we've just cross the border into syria. there's no mistaking how dangerous the situation here still is. a suicide bomb, it has blown up a truck loaded with explosives very close by shoreline drive. the judges us to move on as quickly as possible. ac is a 2nd attack, shallow and used to be in the syrian army. during the civil war, he deserted and fled to the cookies regions. there he joined the militia. he's an driver and 40 god. and he's heavily armed

people to be a peaceful who knew their pro government so long as it's in control. but lead support isis of it came by the office still peace, the town of committee sleep directly on the syrian so it gets pulled up. this is the home of the autonomous administration of northern and eastern syria. as far as java is officially cold. not long after the start of the syrian civil war. the codes who lived in the oil rich ne, set up an autonomous region and declared self rule. but it's not especially recognized by the government of syria, or indeed any states the road. java is a thorn in the sight of turkish president. edwin. in particular. you hum ahmed code

president of its executive council explains why those are the 2 key. what's the quote, how do you the most it onto the, how well, since it's the foundation in 1923 to the turkish republic call has denied the very existence of us current of the so the government is afraid that recognizing kurdish identity in turkey co, a good week and turks as an ethnic group and divide the nation, most of them up to the community digikey past you are the best for you to do the best bond in this money. but here in rhode java, the native language kurdish is taught in many schools that are the key i need to stick and then the turkey does not accept that the holding this a ticket with that it's why it's fighting against us. little because it fears that the kurds in turkey might then demand the same should even try to get the

windshield same on ok. you deal with edwin's main accusation. is that right? java ended some. alicia's, a realize that the p k. k, the code is done work as policy classifies the militant code, each group which is now based primarily in turkey as a terrorist organization. as through the a you and the us, and i'm thinking good the age and the. so p k. k was active for enroll job for a long time, one, but in the 1980s the movement spread here. the courage in syria were oppressed at the time and had no righties hunting and have them pick it in with serious codes. now, rejecting association with the p, k. k. u is shown, then you lose on. but when you today wrote java is forging its own. pansy,

the autonomous administration and the p k. k are not the same, we'll pick and give the back of the, the codes here in re java have themselves loan being threatened by terrorism. and we instrumental in ending as tara, in the region. the, we're on our way to meet and there for us. um it come under as dakota sh, dominated military alliance. the syrian democratic forces the s t f. before we left, we had to hand over our mobile phones. it's standard practice precautionary measures since took each combat drones began targeting could each come on this let's keep that. so j head in the for the l a w, can we put an end to i asked control of a solver. but the organization and its ideology still exists here, but it's still active. it's still carrying out terror attack it assume to 2000

bucks and not just against armed forces to get in, but also against a civilian miscarry. we want to visit the territory once claimed by isis before it was ousted by co despises. we traveled to rocca, the former unofficial capitol of the islamic states. the evidence of the destructive fight against the g head is, is everywhere. the rock crowd became the purest example of this kind of fits ideology. isis have this public, the headings, you know, these terrible pictures that reached us from america. they had a school system where they were looking at the children and the right ones. would they be trained to become lead us later on the not so smartphones will be trained

to become suicide bombers. and yet they used to account for their own propaganda, especially to the outside world for training this as the paradise point of calling for muslims all over the world, the muslims, brothers and sisters, to join the kind of fit to build something new. that was how life has managed to a tens of thousands of foreign sizes. our driver tells us that rocca is still on the safe and judges us to leave. what's become of the terrorist malicious vices after they were defeated. thousands of them were imprisoned in prisons like i'll seen a 12 surprise we granted permission to fill them inside the prison. the j. o is a breeding ground for isis, explains come on to jamal,

see also for the terrorist and he's on easy a bounce out visit. the security situation is to tense, he says, and we sent it to my hands are shaking as i hold the camera. the roar of generations, these everywhere and the sten, she's on bearable. jamal shows us around suddenly details and it was still feeling a door opens and i see hundreds of isis prison is crowded together. many of them are injured. some are missing limbs. the space that held in is cramped beyond the leaf by 2 and my camera back on as we into the in summary is just one straight to here. of these ices prisoners, the doctors, they treat thousands of inmates in return. they have a little more space under we're allowed to live together in this room. and but us the campus of ship is we set up these prisons under difficult conditions. we

weren't prepared for what happens after the victory against i s and the battle of a goose, and we suddenly had to taken more than 5000 i as fighters fish has other c and domain dice. and i guess 10 the ice is prison is cook their own food jim owns as quietly not to get too close to them. tc is they most of the tank coasts with boiling cooking oil, we take into the main wing at the prison, where the inmates exercise time in the yard is about to begin. come on, de jamal, allows us to go up to the watch tower to film. gould on, however, is told to stay out of sight. she's not wearing a headscarf, and jamal is worried. this will provoke the prisoners. most a foreign jihadists who came to syria via to key to join isis. how did you wait to

see something or you just make a flight to truck? if there's someone waiting for you, he will take you and then you would take you over the board. so that was something very easy, even the, the gods that were welcoming you, dest, they're not stopping you, they're not going to any that was something which i think was politically and the benefits of turkey. most of these prisoners have been here or in other prisons in the region for years. no one knows what awaits them. amid the sun, since the young man in particular continued to radicalize g like, you know, it gosh, they should have it available as a new generation of isis as emerging here. as one of these people have been imprisoned for a long time flask, if they call themselves ash about a caliphate to the cubs of the caliphate. they were child soldiers between 13 and 18 years old when they came here and how much this thing done and all the prisoners

indoctrinate them, turn them into committed. i spiders. they are extremely dangerous. you have to do tests that can cut that i've had good, the prisoners, they would have a reaction. i don't know which kind of reaction, but it's different from one to the other. maybe 11, he really who has a vengeance. maybe one us, the able to become more uh, more extremist, you know, maybe some people, they will get crazy. they will lose their minds in the prison. you know? so it would create many bad results. you understand as more of the extent our, the presence in this business. this will make more problems are in about a month. our goal is to return the prisoners to their home country to sleep. but as long as they are here, we have to make sure the presents are secure. the inmates often take tunnels to try

and escape the cold on these wood that is coming down the stairs to enjoy them. the attempted escapes are common. the limited piece so far, we've always managed to support them. we always discover the tunnels and the time that the one the you're behind the bar. even though the most important task with your brothers, we will never forget what i'm literally to you is our duty to ensure the we have that can go because we don't know how much longer we can secure the presence of what we have hired more guards. but that is not enough. we need a safer place and have a better monitoring system problem until their home countries take them back on. come cut the fuel fee in stage. yours,

the legal lien. both in rows of, of 2 parts. their own jihad is there. you know, and some states, especially my state, for example aust, i'm not willing to take the responsibility for the citizens and they hope that if they box them, they error, they will somehow they should be in line to the conditions here. some human rights organizations have referred to these prisons as a new guantanamo. do you think we shall fall will become the next one. tell them oh no more. i'm not able to give a rusty and a no. absolutely not. so you can get to the study moving to g, g is the prisons were set up a fighting was ongoing. we set them up in former school buildings homeless getting keep that stuff to you and get a better or because we know that these fighters home countries don't want them back . but that means these countries have to help us create an international tribunal

within the 3 or the 30, or they have to pay the cost to hold the highest spiders. here wasn't a problem. and he signed a white book, which i gave up to tier 2. we have about 12000 isis prisoners here, have a real job as economy can't cope with that on its own equipment. going to look over here. over here on the credit l, visit to the prison ends abruptly jamal thinks it's too quiet and something must be about to happen. it feels like the calm before the storm. we have to leave we want to learn more about the following to gains die assessing rate, java. what traces has it left here? we had to come bonnie new the to keep syrian border. it was here that vices was pushed back for the 1st time. the beginning of it's down for in september 2014. the jihad is launched. a massive attack on the city. the code each point is put up cs resistance. the east met house on organized the defense

of the cc. i'm a set, it does say all the might be, it is good. isis going through the taxes from 3 signs of what we wanted to push them into the city. it's narrow street. see that because that's where we have the best chance with a modest weapons. we have the most do that to shut the we learned that people here are especially proud of the young women whose for the games die. so scene was java y p j the women's protection unit. so the female tickets within the y p g they had a very important role when it came to the bedroom of cool bonnie because these women are very dedicated. they know when of a they are being captured, buys, fight us. they will be violated. they would be, wait, they would be killed. so they have a very committed in this fight. we meet one of them. suck my last and i'm in the

battle. today she helped support others wounded in the funny thing. like many here, she's still haunted by memories. as well, and the good and the basically they kept shouting, if we catch you, we will eat you because now all the time they were calling us names or whether you like it or not. you cannot escape fear in battle waters because that is why you mustn't turn it into courage and faced it his head on. you're aware that the people who live here depend on you. if you give up and they will suffer for the me, they will be hurt. that's why you have to fight. as i'm sure you will get the measure. georgia for this should have received the why was i so so able to become so powerful in the 1st place? and what role did neighboring turkey play and it's rice, isis, a tech,

the kurtz to take over co. bonnie chucky was standing by not helping the crowds because it was kind of the interest for us. chucky had let is almost hide this from all over the world. indeed, how does try to some of using the talk you soon border to come to see where you to join the service groups there. even isis. so this is what the called the jihad is. highway in 2014, then us going as president job. i didn't commented our allies in the region where our largest problem is serious. and the turks present early. one told me is an old friend said you are right. we let too many people through. i ran the license campaign. 40000 foreign spiders. shihad is from 110 countries around the world, all came and a series of fight in that war. and they all came through turkey was in turkey, more than any other countries to have them sealed their border and they would not do it. they said they couldn't do it, but the minute the occurs to parts of the borders totally see over the wall. in

september 2014, the us decided to provide military support for the could each fight against isis. at the middle of was of vision. it was an alliance against terror. on behalf of all humanity, he blew me. uh. that's what made it unique. no one ever would have expected the kurdish people's defense units and america to join forces you good. how about in the truck i'm needing i'm. i'm did not get here. i think we can see we defended the world. news caught the dogs, the prices have been successful here. how would you on the posting, we've danger to the world and they go to see them. that's why the world supports us today. the 3 it get us for the in the day, the quantity, the, the income bonnie alone, more than 1000 decode experiences, what killed the,

withdrawing through an area with the fighting, continued loan officer, the initial victory. it took full years to defeat the tara militias. the international alliance played a crucial role. so the americans turn to the student democratic forces and the s t f is made up mainly by what could you provide to us, but there was some other minority groups. christian groups maybe shows but included into the s t s. so they became the main ally of the wisdom and to isis alliance. you know totally bit 2017. they succeeded in defeating i succeed, rucker. 6 after 4 years of brutal

occupation under the so called isis kelly rocker its capital is livery. the americans announced they would train a force sushi 1000 strong to god. the syrian took his folder to prevent choices from returning to his president. ad one reacted angrily and threatened military action should lose service, and a lot of america is building a terror army along our border because that we must destroyed before it's created zillow, the global markets ridge of and now had to defend itself, no, totally against joyce's, but also against the threatened invasion by texas, the toki showing the bones towns on the border, including offering the attacks claimed some $1500.00 lights,

and more than 100000 people were displaced. but the could, each majority militias continued to find the march 2019. with the help of air strikes carried out by international coalition forces by goose, the last ice of stronghold was captured. the general no rose general mosley commander of the syrian democratic forces. i like to offer a statement on behalf of the government of the united states. we congratulate the syrian people, and particularly the syrian democratic forces on the destruction of isis is fraudulent calibrate. the ration of isis is remaining territory and eastern syria. so he continued to threaten the tax on rich java and cold on the us army to withdrawal at the u. n. in new york president to add one,

presented his plan for what he called a peace, colorado in northern syria. an attempt to control an area that makes up a large part of our java point in the 7. and he's gone into the says, the sort of, you know, we must eliminate the p k, k y, p g terrorist organization in syria, their territories cover a quarter of syrian territory. yet, these are ruled by a group that someone to decriminalize under the name syrian democratic forces up the will just limited in, in the sense that we are proposing to create a piece, corporate or 30 kilometers wise in 480 kilometers long and resettle 2000000 syrians to turkey, there with the support of the international community. john, in the fall of the idea of creating the secuity zone, alongside the token, see and border self, a double goals. first of all,

the wants to contain curtis autonomy on the soonest out of the board. the 2nd goal is to reset the sewer and refugees inside syria. because turkey has taken in almost 4000000 soon refugees. it's a huge burden on the society. the idea is if he controls these border area so you can send some 1000000 students back to these areas. which would mean that you have some kind of an ethnic cleansing that because these areas wouldn't hesitate by curtis population. tens of thousands of them had to flee from the tourist interventions before. and now he wants to reset the main, the arab syrians to that area, which will definitely not help within the ceiling society to reconcile and to list together peacefully. you know, toby 2019 us troops made a surprise withdrawal from result of a on then president trump saud is

the move left to people in the region desperate joy to get those public. she would she could jani what to. yeah. and what the new quote suddenly they just left and the crowd of people said, well, could we kurds have been betrayed again. it should not have happened to your america had the power to assert itself against turkey. for the sake of all the victims, as, according 221000 soldiers of the syrian democratic forces and not one american soldier was injured during dar level, that's the state we were in. the traffic was a hold to immediately off to the withdrawal of us troops, turkey launched its 3rd invasion, a verge of dumps, operation piece, spring by ad one according to the un, more than 100000 people were displaced today,

many of them still live in refugee camps inside their own country. the worship connie camp is home to some 16000 internally displaced people who is a tech, the tech just we were homeless. slice here without children service. you might, them, there's a ton of, of very our children are growing up in a wilderness. how did you live like dogs here the, the music comp done today had a mental health and there are 8 of these refugee camps in the regions. the u. n. hasn't yet supplied any aid to the caps. the syrian regime is blocking it. we have the un can only health through the syrian government, which prevent aid from reaching these refugee candles beyond the uncut.

often a tunnel, these people are not even recognized as refugees. they're getting no help whatsoever. she wants us to, even though they have lost everything. and it does nothing, it is an atrocity, but a keep good look. a good on the full extent of the problems with java is facing is becoming clear to us. but how exactly can the west to contribute to greater security and stability in the region that can come easily. we have, let's do carry oma. that could have a video for 2nd. there. for us to go back and have the dba. we've told them this administrator and i've called on the western alliance to establish an international tribunal. it should be here in northeastern syria who couldn't because ices terrace, committed their crimes against the people of this region. but unfortunately, because everyone has abandoned us, we've been left to deal with

a problem alone. it's a ticking time bomb, a looming catastrophe. coma, i've got enough money to pay that a time bomb. he says, that's also taking in the camps with the wives, children, widows, and orphans of ices, finances leave. in the household, there are willows of 50000 of them, all of whom are unable to leave the which deem it to go to you to see on what you meant to good to come by. 40 it shouldn't be any worse. the whole camp is the most dangerous camp in the world of breeding ground, for a new generation of terrorist issues, we have no control of it. the cam company is controlled by isis, that big control. i'm gonna take the control dash to we may tell, wait a whole we've been given permission to film. but when we arrive,

the gods tell us it's too dangerous. before they can lift us into the camp, they have to find it difficult for us. and that will take a while. in the meantime, we were allowed to drive through the camp. in the con, the, in a matter of minutes, little boys gathered around the car, calling us names, swearing at us and throwing stones this is a brutal place to grow up. it's steeped into violence ideology of isis. cody's god, who does not want to be filmed, tells us that the young children in the can make just as a, as if they'll sleep. that's correct. they shall have heard that she's an infidel, and that they will avenge the death of the parents. the children begin to challenge and oh, yes,

bethel him facing that one day. they themselves will also become jihadists and sacrifice the line for the profit, the we have to leave a whole. so now we drive to camp roche, 3 hours away. we're allowed to film here, and some residents have agreed to talk to us. the camp is divided into one is occupied by extreme missed women. some assume have carried down to tax themselves. the other houses, families who don't belong to wisest or have renowned states audiology. you haven't been a photo martin. i made a big mistake. i was wrong just, i'm just giving you a so that i can. okay. no, i've actually our countries should take us back to so, so that we can start

a new life. the visas. we dad, she tells us that she took off jose alone, international women's day, women who take off, then he kept a threatened with being burned alive. we dad has 4 young children by to jihad his father's. this camp is no place for children. there's no education. this is a violent the environment and there's nothing for the children. no one of duties. so children, if you leave the children back here, then you can say this will be the next generation of prices fight this out there and fucked him of any money on. on how many children are smuggled out of the camp and given to isis in the, to east the, to the you're doing this is how they recruit child soldiers, vargas and doctors. it's hard, but i tried to protect my son from the radical extremist ideology and the cancer

needs to scan. it will be in this, i'm feeding this little video to eat hold. we told that these women not only a small minority among thousands of captured only as women. they see themselves as victims of vices and deny having been involved in the crimes against syrian and do rocky women and children. women loyal to weiss is on the other hand, often side children whose mothers have died simply to prevent them from being placed in the care of people. they see as infidels. we drive to one of the orphanages with children who could be taken out of the camp leave upon a or home. they often don't even know the nationality of the children. we provide them with a good upbringing, education. we can do that to what we worry about their future with what will become

of them and the stuff was not there. all right here. thank god. and how much is 0? you take care of the children who was the valet chair dikes to hang on at the diesel. yeah, i loved them as their mother would. and more of that, when they shouldn't feel that they're not loved hernandez, gemini, we may count way back to our home. and on difficulties waiting for us, and we were allowed to enter the camp with the camera. i'll ho is a known home to a large number of 100 cool ice as the folders. it's reputed to be a haven for radicals and fanatics. this is the most dangerous part about truth as a whole has turned into a city and it has to and to a small kind of it because it consists of 3 parts of all key celia. and it's just

a national part with the most radical isis members being the internationals. oh no, we are inside the whole come on, but what we're about to arrive at the model now um this good fit hard takes us to the part of the camp where the foreign women and their children leave. these women have phone, the hard line group. we only want the law of god, syria to apply by a judge all the children. here are the new soldiers of isis. you sit, the did very be was found this morning the every day something like this happens here and we're able to put on the side of the baby was in a plastic bag in the trash event. many bad things happen here, the medication,

every way that it won't just woke up when mine was killed. one of these threw her into the sewage system and i need to many atrocities how come. but if a chance that option i'm not, i'm on, let's go to the more it visa card is not dangerous. no one. that's why i'm here. this is the campus market is organized by the residents themselves to try talking to them just at the bottom of the 110. so i know that they've been forbidden to talk to us. i didn't. yes, the it is very difficult to control to contain the living conditions unbearable. it's

very dangerous to leave foreign ices. none of this and that can't, especially children because and whole will turn into a ticking time bomb for further and future terrorist organizations that good reading much from ed for i'm a fish motor, i'm not going to know how one visited you see the figures and versions of the that in i'd be at us before the next one. some of them are armed man, just like getting it and i've got it might suddenly come out to shoot and run away, but i did it. and this is what happens at the day, isn't it? too dangerous for us. yes, it's getting dangerous. the market is getting too crowded. it's no longer safe here . hey easy, that's the ha of the they some we know that we know that the groups and a whole are well organized and are also receiving orders from outside. they have contact with the outside of the and communicate by cell phone. they've had, well,

what given it to me, i think were changed when they get orders to attack and kill people can telecom for that it can how many have to question children or did you hear every day people are account there that where the foreign women live and a new generation of terrorist is being raised or the credit to know the number of junior, we believe that they will be much more dangerous than isis. it sounds to you or what that can help you from an early age, the being fed radical extremist ideas, the which but they're raised on a hunger for revenge. let's figure it out to kind of label the outside of data sharing. the i'm, the children are being groomed to become new fighters to the people health and the camps and prisons are making long term plans and they don't hide that fact. they say we're coming back and will be even stronger and off with the music on the

video. she is the message that the islamic state will live on. it shows the flag of the caliphate flying in the camp, the geneva. and fortunately, and all of this turkey is helping isis, the most typical and austin in yeah, the, there are many illegal cells that help people escape from the campus. so the every day there are attempts to escape from the account and those who succeed lead to try to do something. but if it didn't take a certificate of often there smuggled out with turkey's help the in response to a key says it only helps people who need to be rescued leave i'll whole, it's domestic intelligence service only comes to the rescue of foreigners who want

to be returned to their home countries. our impression of i'll hold is that it's both a refugee and an internment temp. a threatening it must be, was palpable in the cab. original of a field, highly folded child. the legacy of isis here in the region. in january 2022, shortly after out truth many people's was see is came true to i, a suicide bomb is blew themselves up outside the scene of prison videos from inside the prison circulated on social media. we definitely can see that this was a very veil, organized uprising and it was an attempt actually to take over the seat. deed was

not just an attempt to escape from prison wide. the suit in democratic forces fell against these faces uprising who has to come to a key continued to use dead thrones against the suit in democratic forces. so that even attached coordinates for the driving for how to fight isis in the, in the code, each military managed to regain control about that we weren't only targeting the prison. they wanted to create chaos in a hole. in the hospital and rocco region, isis, referred to the 2nd, tell us that they wanted to retain control over the entire region. because of the 374 jihad is reported to have been killed in the fighting. and many

a believe to of escape. the command a demo, the god who showed us around the prison is one of the 77 prison stuff who were executed. and then we hear that set up the caregiver from the often each was also killed in a turkish drone strike. to a case, regression is also increasing income easily. we ourselves experienced an attack as we were leaving or the after our to on september 20, 2022 president, add a one again address the un and again, he stated that there is no difference between the kurdish military and the terrorist. p k. k, l troop lift is convinced that there's

a real danger of an oasis resurgence and root java is being left to deal with this threat on its own. what if the codes can no longer keep on is this under control? the repercussions will likely be felt in europe to the the safe haven would choose theme from the coast, refugee home. and henry has been taking, ensure, montage, jews since full broadcasting, you know, following the terror attacks by him. most families from israel all set seemed to like us to find safe and disturbing to focus on europe in 30 minutes on d w. the only way i can be on the top is to create my own empire,

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