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used to help you make up your mind. we are here and please find your mind. so all the topics i'm much up to you from trouble to fixed a new culture. and in 15 minutes, let's say together, nicholas talks about community life on the research is now on the top. after almost 2 months of agony, anders finally a glimmer of hope for the families of the roughly $240.00 hostages. held by almost all signs involved in the negotiations have now expressed confidence in a deal to free part of them being within reach. according to various sources, the agreement would call for the release of dozens of women and children, abducted from israel in exchange for a temporary cease fire. so to last, at least 4 days, several palestinian prisoners in israel would be freed for each hostage,
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abducted on october 7th. if the deal comes to fruition, it would be the biggest diplomatic breakthrough in the war so far. but at this point, i could fill all fall apart. nicole fairly in berlin, and this is the day the yeah, to him on the return of the hostages, we are making progress. we are now with the closest point we as it had been and the reaching and the payments are sad about every loss of life. but it feels that the world is not screening hard enough for these innocent civilians that are being held hostage as any of the mistakes. very helpful. i hope that will be good news soon.
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also coming out of the drama surrounding tech for an open a. i continues as hundreds of employees threaten to quits after founder sam oakland is sacked, that microsoft has become the player so it's insane. microsoft is the they're, they're holding all the keys. they are the dominant player and a i by far on the go fairly sure. welcome to the day israel and her mazda appear to be on the verge of an agreement to release some of the hostages held in gaza. on tuesday night, prime minister benjamin netanyahu summoned his word cabinets to address what he called developments in the matter of the release of our hostages. political leaders of the how most militant group, israel guitar, and the us all say, a deal is close. it stopped the agreement with the swap of palestinian prisoners
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being held in israel for a significant number of is really hostages taken by hamas on october 7th. a temporary truce of several days is also sent to be part of the deal. as is the movement of humanitarian aid into gaza. you as president joe biden told reporters that he too, is very helpful. the hostages will be free soon to work me. as far as my team and shit show yeah, no very, very close to the details to stuff we have we're say
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and despite the diplomatic advances to free part of the abducted several families of is really hostages, have voiced the concern of the country's war cabinet, is not doing enough to bring their loved ones home. relatives meant with lawmakers to urge them not to pursue a legislation that would allow the death penalty for captured palestinian militants fearing that might expose the hostages to even greater dangerous relatives of hostages. protesting in tel aviv as israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu summoned his war cabinet in mid growing signs that a deal to release hostages, taken by him us could be imminent. gotcha new. our 2nd goal is the return of the hostages were making progress. i don't think it's worth saying too much, not even this moment, but i hope there will be good news soon. we are now with the closest point we have had been an engaging and an agreement. we are very optimistic,
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very helpful. but uh, we are also very keen to this mediation to, to succeed in the coaching, humanitarian, the tooth. the tentative deal could see the release of over 50 hostages. sources say the progress comes after some families accused sickness, its national security committee, and endangering the lives of their missing loved ones. now there's some optimism. i think the only thing that i could call just as soon as we get everyone back home. but i do understand that it's difficult and i hope this data will help us bring everybody back home as well. and i'm really hopeful that they will come back soon. many here don't want to risk anything. now that a return of at least some of the captives could be just around the corner. we're joined now by bob kitchen. he's the international rescue committee is vice
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president for emergencies of the organization spokesperson on guys. i mr. kitchen, welcome to the day. what would a cease fire mean for the civilians and gaza? well, 1st and foremost, it would mean an end to the file and stuff is closed. and the occupied palestinian territories caused it to be the most deadly place on us of the last 6 weeks. the fullest most deadly justice for the whole. yeah, so 1st and foremost they would offer protection to civilians. then secondary would offer to monitor and organizations like the i see the option of being able to actually deliver aid to relieve suffering on the ground. but it's really urgent right now. mm hm. you have been calling for a meaningful humanitarian cease fire for weeks. is this it it's a good stop. as the finding the violence is continued the uh,
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the impact on the humanitarian conditions, the lives of people on the ground has gotten much, much worse. so as that's going on the, the length of the ceasefire has to get longer and longer. and we're at the point now where we need a permanency spot for the violence to be over to start dying and to enable aid to relieve some of the suffering. that's a big concern is for aid to be delivered to gaza and then falling into the hands of hum us how can not be avoided and, and procure help for innocent civilians without then come off seizing the goods that are being brought into into the strip a well organized ations, like a i see in the palm as we work with on the ground operating of a high risk environments, whether i'm on site on back does around us. we have sophisticated methods of delivering aid, registering clients to make sure we know who where,
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where providing assistance to and then following up to make sure that the age is not diverted. so this is something that we, we do in northwest siri or in somalia in northeast and nigeria. so we, we feel confident that we will be able to get paid to those that need it the most. at this point there is basically nothing that's not lacking in gaza is there, but what is most urgently needed now as far as your concerned? well, surprisingly one of the most urgent things is actually fuel. there are as if there is a trickle of a getting in across the board or from egypt, but it's being compromised because it's stuck. there's no fuel in gaza to enable the trucks that your shunting now they cross the border that have stopped and there's no fuel to enable on woods transportation. there's no fuel for generating just power hospitals. there's no fuel to be able to generate is the people require
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to to produce food. so one fundamental thing that we need to, to make a change on is that fuel be allowed in, specifically for humanitarian purposes. that will and power switching lights back on the machines back on, and hospitals get food flowing again and get aid into the hands of people most desperately named me. now that you mentioned the hospitals that w h o says critical trauma care is not possible in any of gods as hospital right now. is there any way of fixing a collapse system within a couple of days? we're looking at 4 or 5 days of these fire right now as well, that goes back to my initial answer. the 4 or 5 days isn't sufficient, given the level of destruction that humans are in need that we're facing. but we can make progress if we can get fuel in. yes, we can get the hospitals back up and running. like switch back on machines working surgeries, happening. we can get
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a pharmaceuticals anesthetics back into the hands of doctors. we can make a difference very rapidly, but 4 or 5 days is not enough to give them the scale of destruction. the scale of damage and suffering that we see on the ground. mm hm. so the ceasefire we're talking about is limited in scope, and this is not the end of the war, hardly the end of guys and supplied what needs to be done to alleviate the suffering of those caught in the middle of the findings with know where to go as well, we've discussed getting 8 across 1st is i think i'm putting additional border crossing so not all that has to go in through egypt. that's difficult, but it's necessary to to provide basic supplies, food and water medicines, non food items. as the weather grows cold, the people need bone clubs again. so that's one thing. the 2nd is that we need
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people to have a space that is safe. so i mentioned earlier that dollar as a whole is the most dangerous place in the world right now. but if you just look at solid garza where it's supposedly safe, where people have been told to evacuate to that is the 2nd most deadly place in the world. so yes, this, these fires are new show time. we need to be pushing for it to become a long time. so people onto freight from boeing, full of bones falling from the sky. every night in your organization was, was found that to help people survive, recover and rebuild the guidance. who's to revive this for? how can they begin to recover and can be ever rebuilt? and i certainly hope so. it's one of the most complex crises in the world. we're dealing with 2000000 civilians who have been displaced. 1.5 displays right now, but over the years the suffering that the palestinians are faced is significant.
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and the pos towards peace is, is not open right now. member states around the well need to push forward this. she might not turn cease fire resolution, be un to, to stop the fighting and then that needs to be serious conversations about what's next. so both sides of the conflict can live in peace, but principally, right now normal lives. the last on the palestinian side that we can stop the process of reopening hospitals and finding ways to get the people have been displaced back into the appropriate housing before the window has tons to cold. best things that we can do immediately the long time is gonna require some, some negotiations and commitment towards pace. who should be at the table? they're talking for the palestinian people, especially i think the lesson has been learned number of times and
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conflicts around the world. that it takes everyone who takes representatives from the palestinians, from across the society of civil society, political actors. and they're going to have to be around the table to represent the views of the, the $7000000.00 people across the occupied palestinian territories. gonna take everyone's voice being represented to me to move forward. do you think with the current leadership as it, as it is in place and on both sides of the conflict that this is a realistic scenario? i'm a humanitarian and i'm focused on saving lives within limits of war. i'm not a specialist on peace negotiations, but i, i fear at this stage the distrust is significant that the well is gonna have to come around and join hands with both parties to the conflict and, and help them forward towards base for the future. as bob kitchen of the
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international rescue committee, thank you so much. 10 years ago today, ukrainians began mass protests in keys against closer ties with russia. it was a time of hope that became known as the revolution of dignity. decade on the struggle against russian attempts of subjugation continue. the cost of freedom has been immense with rushes full scale invasion. approaching the 2 year mark, germany's defense minister has paid a visit to keep to mark the occasion, an underlined berlin's continued support for you. keith central, my done square, is where ukraine's pro european protests began 10 years ago. germany's defense minister, both his pistole is pages respects that to those who were killed during the ensuing violence. you get here all night come here again. firstly to pledge our support,
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unexpressed. so some a diety and our deep bowl and i'm a ration for the braid. courageous battle that is involved such heavy losses. the protests that later became known as your own. my dad began here 10 years ago to the day. it's boxed by the refusal of ukraine's criminal and friend, the president vick, toyota cove. it to sign an association agreement with the european union yellow co, which was eventually forced to resign, but not before sending in the special police units to break up. the protest comp, those killed have gone down in ukrainian history is by having the 100 of list when ukrainian students raise the european flag. in november 2013 shots were fired. it was the 1st time god was billed for european values. ukraine's president also paid homage to the memory of the protest, as they said they will give them 10 years ago. ukrainians began the 1st counter offensive against lawlessness and attempts to rob us of all europe and future ways go my boat. after talks with his ukrainian count about bodies pistole,
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the unveiled defer the aid package for keith as russia intensifies as strikes on its neighbour. meanwhile, the fighting between russia and ukraine and forces in ukraine continues. keeps that on sunday that it had pushed back russian troops from the new pro river and the south. that's the 1st significant advance in months. russian forces, meanwhile, have been pounding the city of, of div guy in the east taking heavy losses by reportedly moving forward. today, russia occupies about one 6th of ukraine's territory and the w as much as building a travel as to the front line in the east, where the ukrainian military is adapting its strategy to protect valuable artillery against russian drunk. hidden in the bushes somewhere, the buttonwood section of the front line, sits the ukraine, m artillery crew one and
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a half of years into the war. the tactics have changed on each other and perhaps a while before we're used to be very low miles. we would drive out to the position, shoot, and then drive off, obtain new target service and drive to a different position. we now we do everything from a hidden position of each the that's how it works. this is why the reason is sometimes of adding this jones permanently hovering over the front lines artillery pieces of valuable target. so both sides, so incoming fire can be free rather than driving around and open roads artillery units. now try to hide their equipment . a cage of way, a mission office, some protection because the drones exploded against the mesh rather than the equipment this. so for pet how it so it has been in service for several decades.
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the soviets named the rest of the re off to flowers. this 122, many me to to repeat. this call is a combination why move wisdom not hillary has had a huge impact on the, from the soviet era, how it says to pay arrow on the can schedule. so probably it with a bit of humor. we can buy spare parts for this equipment at any car repair shop or used to the wisdom before. but if nato equipment gets out of order, we'll have to call the repair specialist for us to bring very special tools and get some instruments. some of the crew of phase the guardian and so for target and quickly gets ready the
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after shooting they maybe they leave the vehicle. every shot fired from this position, increases the probability of being detected. yeah, i think as a whole lot there is the widespread assumption, but they are idiots. so that is not at all the case. and so they also know how to fight this. they know what they're doing is nice on all that they involve and learn . and so do we move on the cages closed again and even from jones, the conversation works for its next task that microsoft has become the player. so it's even saying microsoft is that they're, they're holding all the keys. they are the dominant player and a i by far. now that is a one take on the shifting balance of power in the world of artificial intelligence
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. now that one of the industries rising stars made a lightning transition last friday. sam altman was unexpectedly fired as ceo of open a i the start up behind the popular chat g p t chat bought the firing since shock waves through the industry. the board surprised decision sparked an uproar with significant push back from investors and staff. hundreds of open a i employees have now threatened to resign. just hours after being sacked, altman announced plans to join microsoft to lead a new, a research team on the situation and open a continues to evolve rapidly with potential implications for the future of the entire artificial intelligence industry. let's talk about all of that with technology journalists to raise a locker. there is a huge chaos over the weekend, and things are not really showing signs of coming down. but 1st things 1st. why was
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sam ultimate fired? as we still don't know, the explanation of the board was an extremely compact message with which was also given to the staff of an open a i, which basically just said he wasn't being candidate and the communications with the board so that they could not satisfactory. the making the decisions are um, elaborate on how the situation is going to play out. we don't know what exactly happened. and i think it came as a surprise to most of service. mm hm. and it's, and shock waves through the tech world. what could be the implications for open i as a company, but also the sector as a whole? well i do think a kind of will mock the end of a very break neck speed of the development of the super promising apps like to keep the t or keep it to for that has been a bit of
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a cultural divide within the community as into should be accelerated, this even more or should we take a more cautious approach to containing these maybe one day super overpowering systems. and just last week, at the developers conference of opening i so up on announced that they wanted to introduce a custom sort of app store with which you can as a developer, builds your own g p t with basically 0 coding knowledge. that is, of course, a step more on the commercial direction and the question arises, will they ever be somebody who to moderate all of these new attributes? he's coming up. so i think with open a i basically non existent right now with all of these people's reckoning to leave, maybe they will rebuild it in microsoft. but microsoft, of course, is a monopoly is a very slow moving company. and it's also
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a regulated company which may make it look very different. yeah, we'll get to microsoft in a 2nd, but i want to talk about the, the person that is sam ottoman 1st hundreds of open a i employees have threatened to leave the company and response to his allister, why is, he's such a revered figure in the company and the industry well, he's very much, i'm a products person. he is a person who spent his last. we're also just going around the world talking to media, talking to lawmakers about the dangers and also about the possibilities of a i. he is not out of touch with the dangers and the chances that this technology poses. and so i think he has a very much measured approach, but also a commercialized approach that also one him tons of invest the money. now,
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experts believe that microsoft will emerge as the big winner out of this term. why? why? well, i think for now such an adela already looks pretty smart for just having offer it basically everyone who is ready to leave open a i a home back if microsoft and you could also like see that reflected in the soaring of the stock price of microsoft in the long run, we will probably see if open a i can reconfigure itself at microsoft in a way that's how often want it to be. because you know, previously he was very much doing his own thing as a free thinker and built in with the, with the charity and the opening. i but, but i think in short term microsoft definitely is playing out to be the winner of
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like building a haven for some up on and of all of a supporters that open the i fascinating stuff that was to raise a locker. thank you so much. thank you. it's very much. seems like this won't be the end of the open and your name for sam altman. he tweeted yesterday that it continues to be his top priority to ensure open a i continues to thrive and he may well have his come back if his employees who today said that they would quit if he did not return to open a i succeed in their request that is our time. make sure to stay informed, stay engaged and stay in touch. you'll find us on social media. our handle there is at speedo unions. and if it's the latest headlines you're looking for, there's always our website that is of course the, the, we dot com for now though from the entire team here on the day. thank you so much for spending parts of your day by the
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this is the, the we news line from berlin, the leader of how mazda is a deal with israel, is quotes as likely to see a pause in fighting and the release of dozens of hostages. families of israel is captured by the militants on october 7th. are putting pressure on the is really wor, cabinets to put the return of their loved ones. first, we are sad about every loss of life, but it feels like the world is not screening hard enough for these innocent civilians that are being held hostage and is really what 3 family members being
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