has been 60 minutes on d. w. what secrets lie behind be discovered with benches and $360.00 degrees and explore fascinating. both heritage selling dw world heritage 360 now hello and welcome to another episode of the 7th and 7 percent. my name is edith kimani, and this week we are in come from a town location in northwest and kenya on this week. so we're talking about what it means to be forced to leave your home and adapting to a life of not knowing if or when you ever go back. here's what it's prepared for you. we meet for a few days and see how they're living in kenya and beyond. in south africa,

we'll find out what drives in appropriate settings, communities. and we'll meet with zillow, because when i see a pop up where you've got an office live in cambridge. so let's begin right here in talking about it's a small town, a few hours from the border to south to done, and it's home to one to 10 years to largest refuge account. now the camp was established in 1992 and it's home to nearly 200000 refugees and asylums because when we some of them during the show. but for now this is nancy mckennie. she's in a flowering model and students who have lived here for 7 years and wants to be a voice for her community. so surely. who better than her to show us around my name is when i'm a student and what else? and this is my tone. we're in customer, small town in kenya is very remote,

and i read all the time and look at sound lies in the homeland of the plus released to kind of community within the last 2 years. it has to come to around $200000.00 refugees living in the sacraments of coma and kindly gain the hash climate to discuss it to you over sources like water and food, make a couple months, no easy place to leave for both locals and procedures with people from places like south to done so monday and d. r c. customize the mix of peoples each with their own markets and communities. this is one of the main markets and kuchma. this is where you can get any of the applicants and i'm also of the others that coupon good time. but maybe you, if you want to of list your house with new people arriving each week. kuchma is a place in motion run by the can government together with the u. n. the comes, have become a long time home for many, once registered here, most refugees leave within the comp and tone boundaries. on the troubling 2 other

parts of kenya, if they get special travel permits. nancy lived here as a refugee for 7 years. at the age of 18, she and her 2 younger sisters was separated from their mother and slept their home in south to done her life change dramatically. she grew upfront back when i used to have somebody sending me do this to that. i know. yeah, it's me who's doing the opposite. i'm. i'm self driven and i'm done. now telling my siblings to do this and to that is up by this is good. so you should follow this bus instead of the other, like many young refugees here, her life as she knew it was between hold. before the war broke out, nancy had almost completed high school, but she and kenya agreed to i did step, did she have to go all the way back to 6th grade? to 1st gets her kenyon from re school certificate. i said to me as home, cause a sorry to it's ridiculous, like i chose, but for me to restart from criminal and your toes are in high school is finishing

for the most finishing my high school. so it's been a tough young this is vice quoted price times a great secondary school. and we host plus the rough edges under whose community we have prepared for kenya and master next submission. it's a fine, a, a for us, the phone size and it's, it's such a kid that determines that you enjoy in college or university. when good grades can be a good tweak to a better future. the one thing that nancy has 90 and kuchma is to be resilient and speak out for myself and others taking part in local beauty pageants and for presenting how come easy has given how this platform it helps the young guns out that the women out there. what was to have like those to under the cultural practices where they say, we mean i'd dominated, then they will have the voice to speak out for themselves. holding the ball law is not an option financing. she has to be enrolled in order to her siblings and stands

out, whether it's through modeling or as one of the only women on the basketball court. this is where she spends evening playing both kenyon and as a thank you for letting me show you are on hope to see you next time by most if you do hear dream of lives else with maybe through love or hardware, they could get a chance to go abroad, it's happened before, and so the use of customer and kind of way keep the ball well, thanks nancy. so we've just seen what a vibrant place the customer refugee camp is despite the fact that most people here have both with some dramatic experiences. but we wanted to meet a few people living here, so we've come to see every hassle of a very, very, very special project, the cold cock almost sounds and you're going to hear them before you see the so so

the, so we've just tut from couple my sound and here with me is pretty. yeah, i hope i'm seeing your name. right. alright. and you have the chairman of calculus sound. we've just been listening to. right. yeah. and tell me a little bit about the group and the instrument, but you playing this little piece combined on us and that it is. and we call our sales staff from us our bank. yeah. how many nationalities are represented here? so yeah, of the 6 and us and 94 of us, 6 nationalities. i'm seeing here, republican democratic of congo. and i and deal from

rudy. so oh yeah. oh fantastic. so how did you come up with a deal for me? the group here at the refuge account, you know, uh because, uh we are coming from a different incidents and that is, you know, i know it impacts on some, some of us the, i don't know the, the kind of chair. so now we're coming with the idea how we can just, you know, tell us 10 to the bands that you've gotten and now i know each other, i knew that i could do. i'm not done. i know everybody is kind of, yeah, yes, a. but when i walked in here, i'm looking at your face now you only look so joyful. you know, is that what this music does for you, or why do you do it? yeah, this music somebody made me just to be very, very happy because now i'm enjoying at the odyssey called the this i don't go now i'm enjoying to play college music on this also that. yeah. so don't go anywhere because we are coming back to with a few more questions. and because we're talking about music, we're going to cross over to you gun to i think you're going to like the story of

this incredible guitar. it's, let's watch. there we go. by the got it our, the missing get that is in because i was top number one the know, came of the of the my, my, these in 23 came into the on for i was even go my at that time, that is how i was for i was supposed to leave home. do you then? you got that became guess what? i got the idea. i like you have to be simple. you up to be what you have to behave with people because now you're from from your,

from me. you are low and how do you create your, on your own from out to be with the people at land. how about people in the lives up to land? a new life, the w w. b. i bit that version of me so hard to start searching. how can i continue being a bit by the terrace, which i became because since i came in and got that, to be honest, you weren't crowns bridges. that has been a multimillion that people want to give up on life. just want to give up on their dreams thinking it through never happen. no. to happen by the way into happen because i've been there. and i'm here to tell you that the dreams, this is the

all right, so we've just had some of the incredible guitar is what he was doing in the country . but we're still here with fitness. yeah. and the beautiful sound of coma, and i just wanted to ask you, you know, you have so many nationality since here with so many background. and i know the to say piece is what is uniting all of you. what, how do you marry all these cultures together? when you're making decisions, when you're writing your song. yes, uh, you know, when we, when, you know, i know a beginning, there was a very, it was very, very, very hard for me to, to help with this or less another 2 together. but now to music, when i was playing my music, i meant with the companies, people that i knew operate together. yeah. so i love you for the i know, thinking about that sound died now enjoying and adjusting change. so when you look at the state of the world right now,

a lot of people are fighting because of one reason or the other. and what do you think kuchma can teach people about living harmoniously together despite your differences? you know, uh what, what's the couple my phone been come to. the point in that one is just when you don't know somebody is gotcha business. maybe nissan to find some people or the destinies on a sunday because they don't know each other, you know, because of now we are leaving to get down to be offended music to get that. now we are adopting that, the correct. i know now the fact that i, they know my culture, that's what i will know. we are even going to home when you wait on the piece. yeah . yeah. and you told me how long have you been cling together, use it now. it is now too. yes. to yeah, yeah. so maybe you could tell me the role of music when it comes to integration. you've talked about the, what's communities has this made it easier to have conversations between the 2? yeah. seems to be such a disc, this music oh, at least a bunch a couple of my sounds. ideas. you split our life to because yeah, because we've at before. why not know how to hands on to the kind of leaving. now

to me as if we're not staying together now we, i know you said exceed sad that the now we got together and we just have of what's going by this one. how do we know whether or not that now we have a good, a good relationship with this? yeah, yeah. what's the biggest thing that you've learned since you joined this group? what i have for you on that's to music icon just to be just some nice place because way i came from dell, i mean many so, but in fact, my father died in this in genocide, in rwanda 1994. something happened to me very, very sad now to music when i'm playing this music, to mention me to just to forget what bus to my life and that night i have i have, i'm good to get back to my to take go used to going to be but i oh yeah, i like that. and speaking of the future, what's the vision for the good? so now with the vision of a difficult to down the, we need, we, we, we want just, they want to know now the messages are going to find out. if this is the same, like i bet people we have like we have, we can have the same right?

because we'll do this the same thing. what other people. ok. yes. is it ok say request for one so yeah, it's okay. well, yeah, this is a now, wow, i will happy to kind of enjoy injury on this. okay. let's go. the of the

so speaking of cultural mixes, it's no secret that south africans have long baffled the problem of the full beyond . in the recent past until you, me going to movements have gain significant traction. i mean, even some people from we've seen these movements and now questioning these extreme ideologies. so all calling south africa met some of the young people who up to actively running against foreigners in the country. i know mobilizing for integration for the same for nationals, black on black racism, immigrant versus citizen, that's become all too common in south africa with the way that our parents speak to us today of labels for the nose as people who come into this country antiques. what actually belongs to us like to provide here? experience, right, these still have that and on how things was done. even though i'm still fighting,

i'm by the or can south africa's younger generations over comes in a phobia. now is becoming less and less split deeply that setting each other. so went to south africa. see, putting show nice. what has been looking for jobs since you finished school 3 years ago? without experience or a degree? it's mission impossible in a country with the world's 2nd highest youth unemployment rate is so nice. when i started planning barn is living in this community, believing that they are to blame for the misery of young people. these thoughts, he knows today didn't come from no way, took them over from his parents. so with that, i grew up with that those that know i'll put in the south african. yeah. and that's not, that's most diversity. so when i, when i, when i found out the multitude of this it was out of an idol on employment.

you know, and i thought to myself know this is that i'd be shown use for a joint operation to do the which means kick eligible push back. the radical empty immigrant group, which recently registered as a political party is linked to vigilante is a new things. and general violence against foreigners, they blame far enough for setting drugs, taking their jobs away and occupying social housing the budget. so nice. well, have 2nd thoughts when you witnessed how this shop was brutally new to. people claimed rebecca stoney shop on a sold drugs to children. they still under the premises and stole everything. i'm not, i would like to use uh, i'm not proud at all. because when i think about this, it makes, it makes us less, you mean, yeah, it makes us less, you mean and to, to,

to think about the way we talk about is that definitely can. yeah. but now if someone comes in size to make a living and you see that as a negative beam, ok, that means we are not doing the same features of the can well, but to means i am because you all, i could only be a human being if i treat others with dignity and respect. this is also the principal. so key. so i'm tom, go live by who we meant at home. and so went to every week. the 21 year old student is making food for people the need for the elderly, the young for south africans and foreigners because they come from the we have uh from up the african continent or whatever they come from to get help from my the neighboring from other neighboring countries, so if we don't have them then who will hate trade against foreigners has

a history in south africa, deadly riots and 282018 guild scores of people. sadly xenophobia is on the rise again with 2020, to accounting for 117 shops looted and 30 a depth is back home again. tango said she believes that set of phobia is connected to a laundry generational conflict. she is a born free. someone who grew up on the democracy, her mother though live to apartheid a racist regime that brutally oppressed and exploited black people. her mother recently joined operation to do to the horrible experience of oppression and tongue believes is part of her mother's hatred against foreigners. her mother, still remember the don't fuss a racist identity card that determined with black people could work and live. now i'm still fighting a i think the total of 5 doors for my life.

because my i was just as a fighting for the bus. now i'm fighting for the stocks to, to my does get out. we went through that with freedom so bad. now if you don't hear now from fights and freedom, you have to fight things of westcott and things that come with the freedom to offset me. so nice where i left operation to do law. he finally found a job. so nice why it helps out in a corner supermarket, owned by a mozambique and trader. the owner does not want to be film shop has been looted a few months ago and refused. this might happen again. the fact that the new swat has been given a job by people he once blamed for his misery is underlining that migration in many cases is not a burden. but the benefit for the economy of south africa we are all i say can. and if we are, or if we all want to eat, we should, we should put in. we should be in a table around an interest

in may 2023. you're going to pass one of africa's most draconian laws against them was sexuality which can result in long jail sentences. and in severe cases, even the death penalty is has caused more and more members of the eligibility issue . i plus community. and you've gone to just because i live in countries like kenya go into hiding. let's try and make a living an ex though, like pop a day, are you going to an artist and create rights activists that are kind of what i was lucky enough to get what gemini, with a now living together with that child? i'm. i mixed into my own country, you know, to be able to get my visa thoughts. it in many ways it just felt like we have somehow become like, become refugees in our own country where you're kind of staying to, you know,

safely, villa. it's a property. i was the 1st open, the non veneer weekly, a photograph from uganda. it's been a few years since dw 1st met papa d. back in ken, paula, i'm building a photo career pull, tranquil life in uganda. since then you got into which has always been a difficult place for members of the eligibility care community has become a virtual no, you guys are in april 2023, uganda costs an antique a lot, which can sentence anyone, dean does gate to at least 10 years in prison and can an extreme cases even lead to the death penalty from outside the country. poverty became one of the most vocal you good voices against the new norm. what do you have any any, any basic needs that one human

. being simultaneously, the pop of the south african visa was running out and they had to secretly return to gather to renew us, leaving that child miles behind. they want to me that if i retired and i, we will be arrested at the airport because of, you know, my work on ends with the advocacy that i was doing. i, i was like really sad wired and i, i, i've been named d cuz i knew this was probably that i come back. but it was like a 5050 chance and both knew that like us, knowing the same as when i go for a week. you know, to watch and we know that i'm coming by, but this time is just like what if anything happened? you know, what if anyone recognized me and decided that you know, that was the child is to get rid of me. papa d made it out. and just months later,

they started another chapter of them lives. they moved to building from here for a year and i'm doing not this residency. they've continued the photography, released the film and one to start a postcard from people leaving an x on the other of projects is about documenting. clear mike runs especially people of color from different backgrounds. you know how they come together in um, realizing and navigating spaces away from home. i know that these a lot more people died. uh, one thing to leave the home country is because they have been forced to be rescued . isn't that one country or like the feels persecution, you know, because of their identity and sexuality. and while different gender and sexual identities are definitely more accepted in the mean. i think it comes with its own challenges of fishing in as a migrant getting the right paperwork, finding a new school, a place to stay. 3 properties work they have

a year long residency permit. but what happens after that is still in session? i don't have any plan be, so i have to push forward, but a site level would definitely be the last last thing i would ever choose for possible from uganda, right? if they hear that, oh my god, papa d is in dumber and right. they don't know the details. when has it ever been easy for you or anyone to pack up and leave? leave your family, leave your life or the life that you've known, your livelihood? to go to us range for any place that you've never been to start over. the news from uganda worries, poverty, people being charged with homosexuality, others evicted from their homes and communities. poverty continues to speak up and support where they can well building a new life for themselves and miles. and i got to my home for me and miles is to continue being free, you know, to continue leaving

a lot of things like as well. we wish papa d o the best and that marks the end of us. so good news is you can find lowball shows. yeah. and while you're at it right to us, well and youtube instagram and click talk. so i know we promised you that would come back with a musical elements of fitness. yeah, listen, i did not disappoint and i did not lie. do you see what set up behind me? you're never, ever going to forget this month by was thank you for watching by the,

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