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is our fossil fuels and the ends delegates of the dubai climate talks decided to transition away? well, as you can imagine, many cop 20, i think today's deal doesn't go far enough, but still it is a deal. some say, a historic bill for the 1st time the world has agreed to end the oil age. eventually, i'm feel go in balance, and this is the day the to get them. we have confronted the entities and we have set the words in that i stated that extra for the very 1st time and a con. fossil fuels have been on the table. this is a balance that goes emissions on 28th elizabeth, serious strife. it is
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a plot that is led by the science pop a few words make a honda of difference also coming up, keeping the cash flowing to ukraine. kind of allow them is that landscape still count on gold will on weapons from georgia and the united states. the food is banking on the united states. failing to deliver for ukraine. we must, we must, we must prove him wrong. welcome to the day we begin with the dramatic conclusion of the un climate pulse into by talks of 24 hours ago appear to be heading for failure comp. 28th is, it's called, was forced into over time and look to be in trouble over the divisions on the future of fossil fuels that it gets rejected the 1st draft of the text, but after intensive negotiations under reworking, the 2nd draft was unanimously approved getting no objection,
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it is so decided that for you have a lot of daily move flies against global warming, with nearly 200 countries signing up to the declaration. that'd be great with nearly came on stuff because of the wording on fossil fuels more than a 100 countries wanted officious language. quoting for a desolate phase out of coal, oil and gas, after making resistance mainly from oil producing nations. i draft dr. compromise the final deal costs for a transitioning away from fossil fuels in energy systems and adjust orderly and equitable manner. accelerating auction in this critical decade, so as to achieve net 0 by 2050. some say the deal marks the beginning of the end for fossil fuels given the make up for this one over 95 nation
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entity. it is pretty clear that was more than a state crime. and you know, we hardly expected certain countries jobs. they all yeah, we're just going to turn around and do that immediately. but they did sign on and they are transitioning confidence busy, just climate conference, the fact the seals, the end of the fossil age, which i understand you the every part of the text is of cleo and binding of the europeans had hopeful. but in the, in the climate conferences, you need a unanimous decision. despite my confidence some ice cream is guide. what a jo results are from the multiple pads to obtain the goal of limiting warming to $1.00 degree celsius to do so in a manner consistent with the priorities and circumstances of each nation to achieve sustainable development for them. so a lot of box laughing among national data goods, but the reaction has an old and positive the alliance of small live in states with
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risk for rising sea level, save a dale full show. i'm just full of new pulse. some actually the scripts and engineers accused the segments of caving into the oil and gas lobby is a representative from. i think that again, we tried to warm the world that the conflict of interest, the precise over this cop and the bustle, fuel lobby, seen this house. the stakes smells like oil and like gas. the outcomes of this cup are proof that you are a sellout. you are sell outs to corporate interest. shame based the ship is a professor of development, joe befit the university of bomb. she spent the decades research and climate change and the social impact on the world. a welcome to a d. w professor. i'm what do you make of this wording transitioning away from fossil fuels rather than by using the mouse? so i think we have to start with the fact that fossil fuels is in there,
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which is not something that we've seen before. it's about the toughest with a breakthrough, but of course, transitioning way suggest so that can be done in many different ways. it can be done in a very long time and it doesn't necessarily mean that we're ending the use of fossil fuels. and so therefore, and the some phasing out there's an end and inside service. so there's, there is a big difference certainly. and i think i would set a precedent for, you know, to the extent to which a countries and companies will take this seriously. i had um, so i'm from tongue. uh oh, you said a saying, but this is full of loopholes and it does nothing for what it is that if activity in an ex, essential prices of countries in the pacific and it's a balance to be struck is may i because we have 70 percent of the remaining fossil fuels in the global south, much of which hasn't been used and transitioning away, allows them to continue to use it and develop economically even though it is to the
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detriment of the planets. yeah, precisely. you uh, there were a few days ago, there was a press conference for the african group where they also made the same kind of comments that in fact, from their perspective, if they don't have the opportunities to use fossil fuels. and that is, i think they said something like that and you know, the end of their breast and they, they can no longer breathe, they need that for the development. and so we do have to keep that in mind. there are many different at the, the many different levels of development and there many different needs here. but the emphasis is, of course, ideally on the countries and that the company for the, the most fossil fuels are being used. and, but it's hard to make that distinction between those 2 kinds of situations. so what does face deal and do for companies like uh, tongue, countries like them all these other se, shelves for whom this crisis is actually stand show?
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that's right, okay. so i think that it's like the comment from twotango was that also the wording that action we have kind of the content in there may be, but that words that refers to the action is moved and, and very vague. and so we have, i would say the wins here were the successes were already very early on in the conference were the last and damage fund as agreed. and countries have put money in as including germany, united arab emirates. but it's a drop in the bucket. and i think there was an increasing disappointment as a conference continued, that there weren't more large offers of money being put into this. and these weren't forthcoming. and i think we do have a framework on the global going out of taishan that is supposed to measure where the progress was being made on another patient. but here again, the financing is missing. this is the key thing. so i think put this on for countries i tongue down for many of these, these countries. absolutely. where is the money that is with the, the big thing?
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and that's been the question for, for years now. but on the other hand, we also have to keep in mind that money isn't going to do everything because there are limits to how much adaptation can do. and we know through the science said after 1.5 degrees of average warming. there are certain places where application will no longer work, certain kinds of adaptations will no longer work. so we also need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. so you know, it's, it's, you can port a lot of money into adaptation and, and loss and damage. but they never really going to make up for the fact that we still need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, right? so frankly, spacing. is it too late for countries like tonka, the movies, and those indian ocean countries. essentially nothing can be done quick enough to say to yeah, i think the key issue is really this time of the timeframe, the window of opportunity to actually take action in the internet. mental panel climate change phrase this around that the window of opportunity is rapidly closing
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. if he wants to secure a livable and sustainable future for all, and those 2 words are the ones that i keep repeating because this isn't, you know, if we keep dragging out or, or dragging our feet and dragging out the time, then that for all means that we, we, we lose people and we, it's deliberate choice as well. when we, when we don't take the action that we need to take. so i wouldn't want to say that it's too late just because we have to keep fighting. there isn't any, any, you know, but there's, if it might be, for example, too late to stay over 1.5, but there's 1.6 after that, or even 1.51, you know, so we need to keep finding to, to try to keep that warming to the minimum possible. so um, i wouldn't want to suggest that, you know, just because we're feeling like we're failing here that we get off. absolutely not . we'll have to keep fighting, to make sure that, that, you know, to have some kind of climate resilience development for people in the future. yeah, you mentioned that you and your 1st on so that you were glad that the, the actual
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a phrase fossil fuels was that was that to be that in the declaration much has been made of holding these that climate talks in an oil producing country in an oil producing region. i'm the big oil sabotaged the steel. uh huh, i think so somebody said we'd might not know that until later. but of course, old page has always played a very, a big role and always to a, a big big the big hurdle. and all of the negotiations of the early negotiations where we start to talk good about the adverse effects of climate change impacts many years ago. we're also kind of tied together with a discussion around the impact of response measures that is the adverse impact, particularly on countries. opec countries, when we start reducing our fossil fuel use. so those that sort of always nice to somehow intertwine these things to prevent that, that really effective deal from, from being in place. so i don't think that anybody is surprised. i'm not sure if we
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can at this point yet, say that the fact that the presidents was from an oil producing country that that was a big problem. but certainly opec was very nervous about about to do and probably had a huge influence. also. thank you for that good. talking to professor lisa shipple from the university of the thank you so much for team is who tim remains determined to bring ukraine to its knees militarily and he is assessing that international support for ukraine will wayne. so that will cutting enough list each bed i will advocate sustainable, reliable financial support for ukraine in the coming years to the because it's about the security of europe. oh, well that was did you have a chance to show? so once again, placing support or ukraine and key of needs, that reassurance as west and money and west of weapons start running low budget
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crisis in germany, it's complicated, it's commitment to funding you trying to fight against russia faced as another by roger of russian. miss, i was talking to the craig and capital today, before since the wounding dozens of people to him and made and defend systems are increasingly vital to protecting ukrainian spaces. and the german chancellor is adamant that weapons deliveries will continue. as we had a chance to assure also sometimes to push for sustainable long term support for your pride at a, somebody to if you need is in brussels next week. encourage president for the 9th grade he's expected to attend. i was told, sassy price is western allies for more military assistance. tuesday on tuesday, he was in washington having to unblock $61000000000.00 in funding, being held up in congress. i both but hate and us president a job. i won't. the weakening of international will, would only benefit russia is very important that by the end of this year,
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we can send very strong signal of our unity to the dresser. and the unity of you green america. you're the entire free world. without supplemental funding, we're rapidly coming to an end of our ability to help you create a response to the urgent operational demands that it has put and is banking on the united states failing to deliver or ukraine. we must, we must, we must prove him wrong. let's, let's go through this time with that, and they're in the middle on who's on military, almost a king's college, and onto the welcome back to d, w. i marine how desperately does new cry needs extra funding and support from its outright and good evening till i think. and at this moment the ukraine needed more than ever because so you korean military's running out for delivery shelves and i'm referring to 155 millimeter artillery shells. it also needs heavier
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equipment such as tanks. it needs air color, obviously. so the plastic feelings, at least it needs more missiles if needs more air defenses. and now we're seeing after the counter offensive after the printing and counter offensive, which didn't p o the expected results. the russians are continuing to as offensive . busy operations around of the guy around baton 6. so ukraine needs at least to be able to hold to russian progress on the battle of the old and so western a, the us aid and the 8 from europe is critical at the moment. right. do we need to, to tease out some of those reasons? i appreciate you talked about your kind being in need of shelves and times. lots of those have already been probably savvy about that seems to be less a money issue than a supply issue that you're comp seem to manufacture them quickly enough. it
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does that is absolutely correct because right now, um the european countries have understood what the exigency is are for in ukraine are. and this, that this rests was a defense manufacturer. it's because the global supply chain is very well, a tiled right now. and in order to manufacture tanks, so we have to get materials. we'll have to get still, we'll have to get um, aluminum would have to get less young and shell. remember that russia is a huge supplier of steel. so those components, those role materials arise in price making them more expensive to procure, taking longer a time to arrive. therefore, in order to manufacture those things that ukraine needs and it will take time. and therefore, this is the time that you bring thousands of half and they're in lies the problem. and so how big a problem is that time ukraine hold?
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it's current positions. we've asked a change in the supply lives. it will literally depend, it's very difficult to predict the future and what might happen on the battlefield in military terms. and of course, the politics will also influence that however, it doesn't look very promising for ukraine. um, especially as, as i said, as the russians are deploying again, the wagner troops are all moved to they are trying to push um and to get ahold of, of the, of what it was literally regards the russian casualties. and that is a problem because the brain also has a mobile is ation potential issue as well. so manpower is also scars in ukraine and how long it can hold on without any provisions or with, with local provisions remains to be seen. but in the future is not very promising. so a closer look at those figures make we heard today from us intelligence that the who
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are claiming 315000 russians. i've been killed and wounded since at the status of this invasion 22 months ago. which sounds like a very high human cost to those figures sound about right to as well. i was very surprised about this release because we have to understand why is it being released now and who is a target? the audience of these figures? what i'm trying to say is the losses on the russian side has been colossal. however, there were other estimates also on coming from the us from may 23 which were estimating 50000. these estimates going sided with some other estimates made by the likes of medias. own and therefore i cannot imagine how since then the number would have grown 230-0000 because we're talking about 67 months. and during these months, the russians have not conducted any serious large scale offensive operation. so it
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seems like the estimate is over stated, right? so we presume us with that's an overstatement then because my, my last question is why is russia losing so many truth, but it sounds like, well, you caught me to be honest about because with the, the actual numbers also funky to yes, absolutely. i think um, the release of that statement is somehow to demoralize the russians, maybe those who will be reading this. because i think again this, this figure is not accurate. and we would need to completely to compare figures from different sources to, to get more or less accurate estimate. that's being sad. what this report has sad that it's almost the, the military strength that the russians have pre invasion, indicating something about the rushes, future military capability. and the, i just wanted to caution that those figures um the quantitative data is not the
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only the determining factor for rushes military capability. so we have to be careful one entered into interpreting those numbers. yes, i. so how do you interpret those numbers and looking forward with, with severe losses. all right, we can, we can be completely accurate about them. but the implication from this intelligence was that the modernization of russia's military has been set back, something like of 15 years. and what, what do you think? i, as well as things are, these are just 2 factors and i think we cannot really predict rushes. military capability is based on those 2 estimates. we'll still have to remember that even conservative estimates say is that the russia can produce up to $500.00 thanks of various types a year, which is more than the grass can produce currently. so even taking in, in, in, in numbers roster retain still
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a huge capability. the problem as long tangible factors such as leadership, morales, command and control logistics, corruption and russia has all those problems. and so in order to be able to predict how russia will behave militarily, we need the experts from different disciplines. combining all those findings in order to get an idea and even them, it depends also in which scenario who will be the enemy? i were talking about the russians, possibly in, in the high north, in the arctic. i were talking about them in ukraine. i was talking about them and syria. so i think we have to be very careful when looking at those numbers and as those conclusions and estimates because context matters. and of course, the policy matters and the strategy and how russia will use its military power to achieve whatever political object to it will have understood and clear as ever. thank you so much for walking us through. that's a marina, a minimum from king's color, something thank you. thank you for having me. have
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you? it says almost half of gauze this populations and i'm has not moved to the city of rafa in the south. it's one of the people that are facing bombardments, deprivation and disease in an ever more confined space. just by drawing closer to cease 5, israel says they will push on, but it's offensive games time us, which is why be considered as a terrorist organization. winter's bearing down on rafa. the city at the farthest edge of southern gaza, bordering egypt. with the border closed, it's the farthest people can flee. the destination for display. scoggins, hoping to escape bombardment. shelters are overcrowded. almost half of guys this population is now in rafa, which is the small part of guys in the southeast corner.
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again, this is leading to nothing but a health crisis. rainfall mixed and already dire situation. worse, many makes you have tens, can't hold up for long against the wind and rain water. yes, mean a displace posted in mother says she lacks access to basic necessities. and the minimum i woke up to my 7 month old child who was soaking wet. our house has been destroyed. my other child was murdered. i don't have any blankets or mattresses. i took some from my sister. we just have one blanket between 5 of us. there is no covers no mattresses, no food, no water. life is difficult myself say about 2 monetary and release is fairly reaching ordinary people like yes mean, despite their proximity to the only crossing that allows a into the gallons a strip. israel's military, which is also carrying out strikes on targets and rough uh,
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flames. hum us for the lack of access. unfortunately, it's not, these really started with the preventing it, but rather what we're seeing this morning, right is that some us are not opening the, the was thing aside. a rough or not facilitating excess of which i'm gonna terminate itself. so be me to ask ourselves again wise from us preventing humanitarian, a copy you and general assembly has called for humanitarian sees fire. people in rafa are pessimistic. l 27 model of where the odd and no it is real as well known for ignoring un an international resolutions when i consider is itself above the law. they live enough separately because of that. i don't think it will accept any resolution, especially with winter, just setting in many fear, the hardship and danger that lie ahead. stephen ryan is with the international red cross committee in gaza and he described conditions in rafa. was just over 10
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days ago, i asked by one sized one location uh not far from where i could come there based. and i saw that there was a couple of talking tens i taught by one week later a few days ago. and there was hundreds, if not more, certainly tens of thousands or hundreds and thousands of people are on the move here in gaza. and many of those people actually won't even, but they're able to carry funds in that situation like apps, some very basic items become the most valuable a mattress, a blankets, maybe a negress, supply of foods and when they arrive to the place. and they're already very, very crowded. there's not enough. if i need some occasion for some of these, people have to cooper for a long time to water. and nobody knows what you know is going to bring. certainly seen that there's efforts to bring in more assistance in regards to this. this is a positive development. one of the things that we're deeply concerned about, the ability to meet the growing needs that are going by the hour and to be able to
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reach people who are not in raffle. certainly there are i so many more people civilians who are protected homes, internationally manager know who are outside of alpha. and we also need to make sure that international organizations, such as the international committee, direct costs and any other to be able to work here, are able to provide assistance to these people in safety. and what i can continue stephanie streaming difficult. steve ryan, from the international red cross committee. i'm that's, it's that it is done. you can all of us on social media platforms. ok, dw news for the nicest headlines is over a spring dw asked, or d, w dot com. have a good the
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