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the, the, this is the, the news line from berlin, that'd be the pull to in, says rush average persist with his ball in ukraine. the russian president holds, has been the fear press conference in moscow, taking questions from john list and citizens holdings of outcomes as you and he does need to discuss a few credits future. but hungry is pro russian prime minister is texting to data and for savings saying there's no reason to negotiate your brains membership. open your up in union. no plus israel is most wanted. we look at the hunt for. yeah, yes. and what he did, if i'm boss and gaza and the mind behind the october 7th,
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the tax the find finish manager, welcome. letting me 14 has said that can be no peace and ukraine on to the russia achieves its objectives the, the russian president was taking questions from the public. and douglas at his end, if you're a press conference and must go voting. also said russia thought until you had enough fighters and there was no need for another wave of mobilization. the russian president who is running for re election in march, you cancel. last is press conference. i made rushes full scale invasion of ukraine . protein said his ultimate objective was admitted to rise and neutral ukraine. we did not go to them with this to do that will be peace when we achieve our goals. haven't even figured them. now let's to get back to these goals. well,
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they don't change, let them know to actually remind you of what we're talking about to get the notification or any time or that many minutes. so as i should like you to the site does this, i'm going to go ahead and send me that we will agree on the minutes i show up and agree on a saturday around the 2 i have who is here in the negotiation that has them both we agreed on something with them and then they simply through these agreements into the oven. i don't know if that other possibilities, it'll be easier to reach an agreement or to resolve it 5 years. all right, it's, it is wondering if you guys were able to. all right, let's get to, let's bring it in. uh, the debit card responded to emily sharp and she was posted, a must go on to the w was banned in russia. emily, welcome fulton, spoke full for ours. why so long? well, this was his 1st um, big public appearance um, since the war essentially. and it was also a combination of several different events. uh, you mentioned that uh, events last year were canceled, usually put and holds
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a big press conference at the end of the year. and i'll kind of call and show called the direct line where people from around russia can ask him questions. and this time, those 2 were combined. so that's one reason why it was so long. and we saw him really do kind of a strange mix of all kinds of things. so he was talking both about foreign policy answering press questions that we had questionnaire questions. for example, from a farmer from the south of russia who we saw on screen, you know, with his cows. we had a young man who was starting to be a pilot asking about the aviation industry. so put in really got a chance to present himself as a statesman, as a father of the nation almost. and also kind of as a, as a magician who can make problems around the country, go away, you know, when it comes to rows or bringing gas into a small village. and of course, this event also comes just a week after putting announce that he'll be running again for president. so in a sense, it's a combination that, that side of it is the mix as well. this is his 1st campaign event as it were. so
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what was the message he was sending out to russians? so there are media reports that the kremlin wants. uh, the or the presidential administration wants pollutants campaign to focus on reassuring russians that the focus of his presidential campaign or his presidential term if he, if he wins and will be not just the war that it will be stability. and in a sense, um, he did present uh, you know, that stability. he talked about the economy doing well, but he didn't say that the more would end. and he said that it would reach until that it would continue until russia reaches that goal. it's goal. so kind of not reassuring russians in that sense, and what was the message that he was sending out to the world? well, there was a lot of talk about foreign policy. and despite the fact that he was trying to reassure russians as well, he talked about china and other partners which he called reliable kind of taking the place of western partners who he called unreliable. and he also talked about
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the economy and sanctions, and he said, you know, you, everyone who wanted the sanctions to make the russian economy collapse, look, it didn't, nothing collapse. so there was a lot of defiance there, but also a bit of hurt. i think of being snapped by the international community. he talked about the chargers president, president add on on, not wanting to meet with him, and also am i knew in my call friends. not wanting to meet with him. um, so a bit of hurt, but a lot of defiance, i think, towards the world. we live with the, with the timing. thanks so much for joining us today. didn't look at his funded emily shaven ukraine's president valid, debated savanski has boned. you will need those at the summit in brussels. that now is not the time for half measures and hesitation as they meet to discuss your grants future. but the prospect of a unanimous decision on continued support for keith is hanging in the balance with congress pro russian prime minister standing firm and his opposition to any quick
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decisions. as he does have to make 2 big decisions at this meeting. and they're both about ukraine. the 1st is financial support for the country. the commission has proposed a 50000000000 euro, a package to fund ukraine for the next 4 years. then base ukraine joining the blog can hear you need is have to decide on whether it's open souls on ukraine's membership or but one of the blocks 26 leaders are ready to say yes to both hungry as prime minister said he will be to both the lodge memphis not to see what the cause issue. lodge meant piece of metal base, legally b through a process which has become be sure that we have set up 7 the conditions and even the by the evaluation of the commission. 3 out of the 7 is not seen. so there is no reason to negotiate membership of ukraine though you membership is
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important. 14, but funding is more urgent. i don't think it's for us to tell the americans to support ukraine unless we is europeans, or whether it's for you, cried new york city country. and i think that really has to be the outcome of the swedish be because if you think about us, the us, the you, these are the 2 towers of freedom and democracy in the world. if we can support to crate rights 2024 to move in on the money. i think it's crucial that we decide on this to 50000000000 records, particularly notice in the us. i think more internal politics, the individual talked to craig. that's the association has to be postponed, so it's do more crucial doesn't get to a positive decision on both in the case of ukraine. we think it is a necessary sign that we support the activities of the opinions to meet or the mattress that we us them to meet. that fine is, will cheat. but it is also intended for russia,
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a message to moscow. that's the width is most about to a band and ukraine. but henry's prime minister will have to budge the state of new brussels bureau chief, alexandra phone, non evict to all bon is likely to budge when it comes to ukraine's you accession talks. well, at least at the moment we do not have any indication that he is willing to give that to congress located here. on the contrary, we just heard from him in the package. he doubled down on hungry its position on that when he arrived here in brussels. and that is of course, a big problem for the european union. and we heard from many leaders here today that how important that is from their perspective, to send a strong signal to key if that they are willing to open. the accession talks that they are willing to support to ukraine. they also wants to send
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a strong signal to russia that europe is not backing down, that they need to be to or bond to be on board with that at the end, the moment at the moment it's really difficult to say or to see any potential compromise they're hungry has also been opposed to a new package of e u. a. so your plan does that opposition student continue? well, i think that so with regards to that topic to all bottom, it has often he's sustan's. he made it clear that hungry is not to fundamentally opposing the notion to provide ukraine with 50000000000 euros in the next 4 years. they just don't want to some to be part of the you budget. and that opens up the door for all the other leaders to come up with to kind of creative solution may be to establish an extra facility for that. you create it for the age of, for ukraine. so that is something dad. so we could see agreement in the end. and
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again, of course, it is important for ukraine to know that to the european union will continue providing financial aid for ukraine. amazon to talk to is a bit about the overall mood data at the summit. what's at stake there? well, what's at stake here, we really have to, to put it this way is said that your opinions credibility. we have seen many of you leaders travel to key if we are sure. while the media names key that you create and presidents and the leadership of you creating the people, if you claim that you're is supporting them as long as it takes that they are fighting for european values. so no, not being able here to agree to open accession talks or to agree on further financial support for kids. this is really,
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could undermine at least be repeating the union's credibility. and of course uh that would be a big failure is in the and the you leaders are not going to be able to agree on those 2 important issues when you leave it there for the time being bye, thanks so much for joining us today. indeed, i'm new brussels bureau through alexandra phenomena. thank you so much. thank you. and here's a quick look at some of the other headlines making news around the world of thought of things. and bulgaria has thoughts of dispensing a soviet monument in the capital. sophia, the structure has become a point of contention between pro western and pro russian groups in the former communist states, the monument was erected up to the 2nd world war to commemorate soviet forces entering gabby at for 10 years made it too serious. it is working to evacuate people from several regions. he todd by flash flooding. all of these say they have
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also been trying to provide age to be effective communities. a 170 people have already died and some, 600000 people have been displaced in storage and greens began in november and japan's prime minister from your patient has announced major changes to his cabinets. as his hooting party faces an extensive corruption scandal. he's replacing for ministers who are being investigated over failing to declare millions of dollars in fundraising revenue. it's a 3rd cabinet trick up in the last 16 months and some breaking news coming in all parties of interested in starting full image members of hamas on suspicion of planning, attacks against jews. 3 of us were made here in berlin and another in the netherlands. german prosecutors said the suspects had plans to bring weapons to berlin for potential hughes and attacks against jewish institutions in europe. we bring your modem to story as we get it, you know,
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and it's really prime minister benjamin netanyahu has rejected international goals for a cease fire and gaza, including a non binding resolution backed by the un general assembly on tuesday meeting, which is very sole, just different now said that the ministry would continue it's offensive against time us, which is classified as a tempest organization by the u, as well as the us and other nations. the government, if i say this, even given the great pain in the international pressure, so nothing will stop us. we will continue until the end until victory. nothing less than that. i think even though we do it because of the through you with gods help them with your help. thank you so much. i us, meanwhile is right, is doubling donovan's pursuit for miles despite the international goals for a seas file. so more more do we know about the leaders of the group are designated
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as a total restore organization by numerous countries. while i'm also supremely, there is a spine here. he functions as an international spokesman and his based and cut the out of reach for is there any ground forces? mama dave is the top commander of the fest. um brigades, how much admittedly wing he's believe to have played a crucial role in planning the of october 7th to attacks. his deputy model on isa is also wanted by israel. his father from mazda is 3 man military council. and then comes here. yeah. san juan, at the top of israel's hip list, he's considered the mazda mind of the october 7th attacks and the head of homos in gaza. we look now at his rise to borrow since his release from it. is there any prism more than a decade ago? yeah, yes and why was given a hero's welcome and gaza when he was freed and the 2011 prisoner exchange
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that is really official now describes that as the worst mistake and israel's history since the dentist and war has bowed to fight for the release of all remaining palestinians being held in his really j o. c. i currently estimated to be some 7000 people in the middle of each i have never seen more grew up in the con eunice refugee camp and was detained by is real in the late 19 eighties. during interrogations, it emerged that he was involved in the killing of a dozen palestinians, suspected of collaborating with israel. the former should bait security official, michael coby, who spent more than a 100 hours interrogating, send word to describe them as both rational and yeah, the router's. yes. yes, and what was the present? he was the chief of the old. how much president she told me to how much is my wife the how much these make child? how much for me is everything?
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i make everything to succeed is a how must officer and be sure that i'm going to keep a lot. a lot of research varies in gaza or outside goes a student who are used as time in prison to learn hebrew and study his captors. he became convinced that is real, could be pressured into releasing large numbers of palestinian prisoners and exchange for his railway hostages. the after city war himself was released, capitalized on the networks he built in prison, to become homeless as chief and gaza. alongside leader is nowhere near winston. what was reconfirmed in the post in 2021. he again pledged to get all palestinians freed from his really jails while some of his real may have believes in. what was a pragmatist who could be worked with behind the scenes of boss was plodding attacks on an unprecedented scale as homeless process for the release of imprisoned operatives, the miscalculation surrounding get yes and why will be
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a powerful reminder to is real of the risk of making a wrong decision with me now. the 3rd year is hans eoc options. now he's senior director of the account, the extremes and project, a non profit in 0 that works to policy and research to combat extreme is in welcome . mr. charlotte, we're calling you. i also involved the mazda mind of the october 7th of tags, but talk to is a bit more about his role in these attacks. what exactly do? thank you so much for having me send while really is the key tears act that with in how much he was as your colleague pointed out, really at the outset with thomas, he has set up not only the terrorist infrastructure from us, but also what's involved in setting up the internal security service, if i must, was hunting what they call policy and collaborate as those with who to cooperate with as well. he's also one in the leadership that was very hot,
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arguing for the relationship with you, ron, and if you look what happened on the 7th of october, it is very, a typical for how much strategy and methodology to do. something of that scale. more like a program like me to tell hope ration that clearly has the signature of iran. and what did he want to achieve with these effects then? why we clearly he was a couple of games. so number one, he wants to of the fathers doing business out. this is important for us in order to ensure it's so political survival within the policy and community because the price of the products things are paying for this attack is enormous. so he needs to get the prisoners out. secondly, he wants to isolate his route and in this one of the how much propaganda around the world has become quite successful. unfortunately, the last couple of weeks reversing. who is the victim and who is the perpetrator here? quite effectively, and of course he wants to ensure to survive your ability, you'll find the house, and that's why they will keep the last remaining group all 5 hostages. and i'm
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quite sure we'll ask for the exit, or some key individuals from. i'm from casa in exchange for releasing those lists, which are, so i do want to talk to you about how mazda in greater detail, but just to go back to the point you were making about it on, are you saying that is on, was involved with some way with the october 7th at a tech. there is no concrete information that iran set up and determined to date, but the way that from us and publishing is loved. you have was also another proxy over here on in the gaza strip. operate that is very similar to the way that yvonne proxies in iraq or in syria or i supplies operating so very clearly. and iran has been building up come us capabilities to do this kind of operations rather than to what time us has done before. smaller scale terror attacks and suicide bombings, right. we've talked about the seen a lot of tool in her models. and before we started this conversation, we were talking about some of the other leaders of how much
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a lot of my based in colorado talk to us about the role that these other leaders play in how much. yeah. so how much is a lot of latch or operation which has this terrorist arm, but it also does a lot of social work within the front of senior territories and has a lot of companies around the world. the top top leaders, the top 3 lives in got to and it's really unbelievable that camphouse bill protects those individuals on its territory about the whole sole members of what's called the police to the upper echelon of the decision makers in liberal, known as well as in turkey and the key finance myself, i'm us is also so when israel say is the head of the domestic intelligence agency said that is around wants to find and kill a yes in water all to eliminate from us entirely. it would mean that is there any operators would have to extend beyond because a correct well, i mean, it depends really what you say eliminate entirely. so these are in the government
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already already announced that it will hometown must meet us wherever they are on the call and we've seen some i'm us and it is actually moving as a reaction to that announcement function. however, what happens right now is to be great ation of the physical infrastructure about vice time to then hopefully through educational economic means drying up the top ground for a extreme is time us, you know, i do all that. you can take hold independence, the entire doors, so that is a several stage of operation game of which will go on for years. first, the physical infrastructure. then the basis for the idea on the oldest physical infrastructure of the damages that we're seeing in gaza. i mean, that is causing outrage it onto you also have us president joe biden talking about indiscriminate bomb being almost as a wanting to ease around is that not playing into the hands of from us? absolutely, but these really government here is in a no win situation. after september, october 7th, how did not react it?
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it would have invited more terror attack. if it reacts, it will encounter of civilian casualties. and this is unavoidable. however, this is exactly what, how much wants to, what it is we have to do. it meets the pictures in order to get international outcry and isolate is rarely and the idea is to isolate is ran faster than is what is able to destroy its physically destruct. talk to us about what comes next. and this is very campaign to eliminate from us. we're looking at the destruction of physical infrastructure here, we're looking at the military campaign. what comes next? what needs to happen next? so once the physical infrastructure is under control, the tunnel, the leaders hopefully arrested or killed. then of course they will be a phase of israel, military control of the gaza strip and then comes the real hop questions and no one really has a good answer yet. and no country has come forward to one and 2. yet. what happens through the gaza strip, optimize this really government has like very clear. they do not want to govern gaza in indefinitely anymore. we need some kind of international structure to
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govern jobs or whether it's through the u. n. or coordination of the willing or the european union, but so far, unfortunately, no one has come forward and he's willing to come and gather a maybe this is not a yes, no question, but i ask it anywhere is around, wants to eliminate thomas. can it's difficult. uh, what it can do is to make sure that how mouse, as an ongoing terrace concern is no longer at all for a very long time. not able to do anything compared to the 7th of october. that is military lead achievable is the international community cooperates on trying out how much does income streams including itself from iran and from comp time as well as donations here from germany and european union. that means to have us, if the international committee helps israel to set up a more sustainable governance structure and goals of that doesn't allow one of extremist ideology to emerge, then it's possible. but we are talking about really
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a long time here. i'm us has been founded in 88, and it's still active there, at least the same time will be needed to eradicate where you live at the time being . the thanks so much for breaking that down for us, and so yak option. well, thanks so much. thank you. i know some other stories from around the world in australia. a woman june for the debt so for, for infant children has been decrypted after spending 20 years in prison, according to the rule of the evidence against kathleen folding was not reliable. and the children may have died of natural causes. republicans in the us house of representatives have voted to formally authorized the month strong impeachment inquiry into democratic president joe biden. the move gives republicans will pause to investigate the president, whom they accuse of profiting from his son's business dealings sofa that in party has failed to turn up. any evidence of wrong doing company test is recording nearly
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all of his vehicles sold in the united states because of phones detected in the, in both auto finance system. this follows up to your investigation into crushes, that happened to me in the drive, but assistance software was in use more than 2000000 cause on effected. and the european sense of the bank has kept its key lending rates study. that's in line with similar decisions in the us and u. k. not to boost interest rates. easy be president christine the god said the rate would remain at 4.5 percent as long as needed to battle inflation. to now with something entirely different and aquarium in spain has kicked off. it's chris percent operations by stepping up and the timothy seem at the bottom of our shock turned diverse at the madrid aquariums have the same placing figures of jesus, mary, and joseph. they later returned dressed as the 3 wise men, bringing gifts to the newborn jesus and the fish of costs and some of the addition
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of the madrid. so it's been doing the shock time, the timothy scene since 1995. okay . some testing out there, what's not to love your wants. indeed, the news here is a reminder of our top story about an important series. russia is goals and you plan to remain unchanged. speaking as these kinds. if you're a press conference, the russian president insisted they would be no peace on to moscow achieves it's aims. it's the 1st event of its kind since russia launched a full scale invasion of ukraine last year. and even eaters are meeting in brussels to decide and the opening of accession talks, ukraine and on further financial aid for keith. but hungry is the, the old man who has close ties to russia. east type thing to block, the plans ukraine's president has wanted that russia would exploit any veto to stop
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the membership that does it for now. conflict zone is up. next, this week them sebastian interviews, alexander. gov, whoever. the director of the con edu. russia ratio center in belen, i'm finished strategy in berlin and thanks so much for joining us, wincing you soon to buy the
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or the enter the conflicts own with tim sebastian, my guess combine is that it sounds like the rest of the economy, the russia you raise your sense for now russians, economy has stabilized, and mr. pretend incisive on war crimes charges is none. the less finding plenty of friends so well as new found confidence tim, tim into a bigger role with ukraine. i've even a fight with nation conflicts. the next on dw,
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are meeting people here in the 3 this week on dw, the, the, the slow crew conflicts and ukraine will soon head into its 3rd year with the pressure on care to advance on the battlefield and re energized support in the west . my guess from belin is alexander w. direct of the con, the russia, your agent center. the bad news is that unfortunately, the support for you raid in the west or public is going down for now. rush is economy has stabilized and mr. put in inside pick on walk.

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