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it's just that i keep the long awaited green light to start a membership talks. thanks to hunger is evict. oh, about agreeing to get out of the way. today though he was back in the way, vito and a you a package. billions in support for your crime is now stalled, folding filed of internal politics in brussels and in washington. i'm feel guided by then and this is the day the, the message, the ukraine is we will be there to support you. the long term financial support is very important for you, brian. i'd be just need to come back to find the best solution to the of the russian rule is only waiting for your results to we can. we reach an agreement on the financial aid. so there was a clear politic cuz we were approaching this very much mistaken. they need our help and they need it right now. not after the also coming
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up the last year. i'm and so i'll just leave molly after a decade, long deployments. so was the peacekeeping mission of a sample failure? we find ourselves in a real dilemma. situation in molly has not improved, and yet not the mission itself failed. it is the conditions that have caused the mission to fire. i said, yes, we began the day with an a you summers in brussels that began with a bag and ended in angry disappointment after successfully sidestepping victim all bounds. opposition to starting, accession talks with you cried you lead just found the hook, gabby and 5 minutes the standing firm, and he's opposition to financial aid for cave discussions of a package with 50000000000 your rows of a full year to support your trends fights against russia's inviting me will not be postponed until january is the old on his as at brussels must 1st unblock his own
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country's frozen a you funds before he'll can say that lifting his visa. bessie, i need me to get to who has said that if someone wants to manage the budget rule and they want to for several reasons. so this is a great opportunity for hungry to make it clear it should get what it deserves. not tough. and then a quarter, but it must get the whole thing on the mexico for those that get set docketed. i miss the old man says he could still block you cranes, past to membership and hold up of a you decisions. if he doesn't get his way hungry was the only holds out, is that the summit defying the consensus of 26 of a you latest? unfortunately, we did not manage to reach you and i remember to yesterday hungry was unable to support. so there is no a new home depot early next year, or is that going to go home? but i expect victor all bon in the coming months, just as he was respected news, legitimate interest and he's a junior, these were taken into account that he acts as in your opinion, that he does not take cost into the political progress. i don't think but it's it's
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been so i am sure that no one in the kremlin has allusions, and that will be an agreement which will make the necessary financial means for ukraine available. the idea that i don't intend to enter into the tickets early days, but we have various tools available to me sure to, to be able to uh for a few other products. well, as you might expect, of russia has applaud. he's hungry for quotes defending its interest. victor old bond has been criticized for maintaining such close ties to document products despite these invasion of ukraine. the latest where this made it, the whole handshake between the 2 datasets, surveys mazing in by using the w is alexandra found dom and has more on hunger as controversial relationship with russia. the kremlin really views victor alba and as its allies in europe, he has repeatedly blocked or delayed to measure a set with herds, russia, and he has been increasingly being criticized as poor teens agents in
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europe. something that would have passed denies and still fixed is subject to all the inspections and decisions on the mind that you appear in the unions you need see in the face of russia for more on ukraine, alexandra phenomena, and brussels well vis a you decision was the 2nd, funding blow for your crimes, a lot of minutes that has to be in a matter of days during the week, you try to showing up supports in the united states, only to be confronted with another political on past ukrainian presidents, please for support that the us congress was ignored by republicans demanding that of concessions for ukraine. 8 w 2. now to mil. possible from washington, members of the house have rushed home for the holidays for a 3 week recess, leaving the fate of a 60000000000 dollar defense package for ukraine. unresolved. that package has turned into a legislative bargaining chip and washington with republican lawmakers demanding
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a deal on tighter controls on the us mexico border before passing any aid for teeth controls. many democrats decry as draconian. the us senate announced it would return monday to try and hammer out a board or compromise to free the way for support for ukraine. but even if senator is agree, that would mean house members would have to be called back from their break to vote . guess on the package before years and, and it's far from certain that they would, that makes for a painful waiting game for you crate with potentially very little pay off. up to now doing it all. well, all excited that share but has spent the decades in your trains diplomatic service with post things and you are found that to the us is currently i'm boss of the lodge. i'm an offer is book ukraine versus documents and diplomatic. so let's say it's a blood flow, okay, international, a fast from case perspective. welcome to the w and bass of it. do you have any and diplomatic thoughts regarding hungry is back to open?
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we are certainly very lucky to have a neighbor or likely be so horrible in such a time of trial and the rest of it is it taking us militarily or bottom is uh, looks like the trying to choke us economically. it's uh from god. he's an absolute minority in europe. the union i'm, i'm thing gone to the european union is not so doesn't consist of people like him, all of them that so we all are writing all i have here. you, craig, why he dislikes you. bring so much and what kind of agreements he is so is let him know which is why he likes his company so much. we have of course our speculations about that, but for maybe the next time or i will share them with you, right? small dissertation is to go to, well with we have another 7 minutes so you know, feel, feel free to speculate as to why, why,
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why be fit and compare how gary and prime minister is acting in this way. are slow . it seems like the slow, the i'm getting prime minister has this imperial massage items, imperial weakness, uh, just like, uh, the russian president will conduct for fuel the imperial in throw istic war against the graeme. so he's trying to drag the former calling me of you crane into the fall movement. so domine, on. so to say maybe maybe in uh, victor horrible, uh, also has, uh these kind of look at part of your territory bugs. you know, the additional, the disappointed. so both of them, it would be the earliest appointment that you can go down to offer uh for her. uh, independence um so we won't give all this has been a difficult week for your contract with funds installed in the us and in your do
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what is your reaction to what's happened? well, it was a very is, these are a couple of weeks definitely. uh for the uh, issue of uh your brain age. gov. so became a hostage to uh, another issue which has become re, uh, disputed in the united states. the issue of this so called low on the more that was mexico. we know that the majority of americans bought a new credit and then the majority of congress members supported to helping you bring a bottom which i believe we have this kind of sedation. it doesn't look hopeless though, and we just want this issue resolved. as soon as possible, hopefully before the before christmas were looking at both in a 100 then in new orleans that have got back in the the us and you are. what impacts will this delay have on your credit is defense. i
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believe you pay lives the lives of our best to play with the less of us soldiers to we see that there is no no compromise. so on the ukraine, she comes to confirm that yesterday saying he's a tar gibson. ukraine. have him change of the know the targets. the targets are basically the duration of your brain. them his right to kill clear what you want in your brain. uh so uh, as long as we use them. so we have a less, a nissan on the front line. uh it just so we bleed much more. we hope that it will change because because so it would be the trail of biblical proportions. if the westwood band will ukraine, this guy, institution. right. you said it's important that the money arrives before christmas and if it doesn't, what happens?
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well, we don't expect all of the money to arrive to full price. my sons, we were happy to see the military bunch of the so called into a being the best. so this week, or here in the congress with the i think uh well with the surgeon additional will help to for the more you pray. so if this help comes before the new year and the rest of it will come, come after that, then dissertation won't the soul dire, but for, you know, for the spirit of the argument for the spirit to ukraine. for this, talking to this, our partners fail how back we need this package to the test in washington as soon as possible. so that took us through some of the reaction in you trying to what to plan what a p as to be waiting resolve from west from allies as low as
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soon as it is depressing to see basically what nothing has changed compared to compared to last year your grade is still, you know, defending the ground for freedom and democracy. so in the war of aggression, this was absolutely horrible from russia. everybody. and basically the majority of the world gave up on your brain quite fast. but we surprised the world. we amazed the world and people uh, as my task less to you, i just see that they are. what do you interrupt because of the, forgive me i'm because i'd really like to, to push you out on, on this, this notion of being sort of left stranded. i want to hear what people that are saying about the, the, the lack of the money coming through. now i ask you a couple of times, what was expected. this would happen. you didn't really give me an answer. so let me press you on that. if the money doesn't arrive, what difference does it make?
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well you for you, you have the rules ukraine. honda, the boss, if we don't get enough, we don't get the money. if you really don't get the weapons, the little bit genocide in ukraine may some of so unfortunately i'm people will be slaughtered. what we have seen in the course of this war as, as you are from the united states, sort of gets, gets that, that acts together. it's promises a lag, and then delivery on those promises. so you must be pretty sure of the money will eventually arrive all be somewhat light. well, this is the ceiling and that's the whole goal. so quite frankly, when you look at the american elections next year, when you look at some of the voices that come, for instance from the level of small not only from,
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from the real well made differential voc here. uh, there are some where someone for me, i am very active on social media. when you enter twitter adjusted so depressing to hear so many voices so so many people so personal, hopefully one thing to ukraine to see crucified slaughter. we know that it's not the reality, you know, the majority of people, at least in the west, once you break to prevail. and this is why they say again, this is essential 5. but there are more, some indications to the world to and then also on the virtual nature like and social media unfortunately. right. so who needs to do a walk then? because the space has always been a problem for ukraine, and it's a support. is that the whole notion of democracy? elections, governments change, i to choose to the war changes you mention the united states. if donald trump debt said he is less likely to be, as uh, as pro a ukraine, as joe biden has paid,
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we have seen various alexis across europe. what does president zalinski raffle needs to do to shift the dial back as well? she is doing more every single, humanly possible. during the last 2 weeks, we have to present the lens key. this be going to follow them to the minister of defense, the leading members of parliament, all advocating for companions before you know, is to explain both to members of congress and to their constituency. that's uh the reason only one alternative. uh, $2.00 oh $5.00 a bill toner is ukraine leading to death and the in the, in the, in real time uh mode. so i hope nobody wants that to happen in the west.
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good talking to you. thank you for joining us. so ukrainian, i'm not sort of at the lodge. alexander shop. think of germany's mother she mentioned in bobby, came to an end this week. it was positive for you and deployment, which was terminated after bodies ministry jump into order un peacekeepers out of the west african country the last year and the soldiers have now arrived home, ending a decade long in this valley deployment soldiers were received by german defense minister parts victorious before base on it for their services. the ceremony and advice in though a saxon me, i'd even mention tamani was created to help stabilize the country as it baffled agent harvest. and so just say that the seizing power in a coup in 2021. molly's ministry hunter, oldest foreign troops out of the country. it's the end of emission considered among the display of the most dangerous german soldiers, a pulling out of money. often more than a decade,
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it all started back in 2013 of the militant islam is threatened to capital by my cool german troops arrived as part of it. and you training mission 1st to so molly and soldiers, how to defend the country against the separatists. and then as part of an un peacekeeping mission called mino sma overtime. more than 24000 german soldiers were deployed in money. the mission repeatedly extended by the board to stuck. at 1st there were huge majorities for continuing the mission to watch the end. however, skepticism grew both in parliament and among the german public when montes military over through the civilian government in 2021. germany's relations with the contact became increasingly from not least because the new rulers maintain strong ties to moscow and brought in russian mercenaries. in june, molly's government demanded the immediate withdrawal of all un troops. newton's law,
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unfortunately minnes most seems to have become part of the problem by sealing tensions in the community. familiar with it was and by extremely serious accusations, that's a very detrimental to piece reconciliation and national cohesion in molly. yeah, luck with you on us will not be my the situation leads to a feeling of mistrust among the population towards mendoza and to a crisis of confidence between them out of the and also or it is and menace about monday and they let me do some of the, like other members of the un mission, germany decided to pull out the door with data. and i very much regret that this mission is now coming to an end in this way because we just become clear to us in the discussions. we find ourselves in a real dilemma that my situation in molly has not improved. and yet not the mission itself failed. it is the conditions that have caused the mission to fire. this is
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not the fault of given politics and certainly not the photo of the book despair and it's so just bear with you. i've got enough gods. and even though its soldiers are now gone, germany wants to continue providing development 8 for money. whether the security situation is stable enough for this 8 to make a difference is now in the hands of monies government. crazy on a side for has a big kofi on, on international peace keeping training center and got as many years experience consulting and researching counter terrorism measures. you joins us from ok. welcome t to dw professor, i'm the base you admission fail work. i think it's difficult to say yes or no. they weigh a lot of complex. intervene in factors originally established to stabilize my lead to help to keep the 2015
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o g s agreement ship and then how to rebuild and stabilize by the to bradley is security forces. to about time, the capacity to deliver on these mandates became very difficult task of cost with the west main family security situation. most independent. the constitution in the south, in, by my goal was a multiple tass, the capacity of the government. and the you way to i agree as to the specifics of how the mission should function then became very tenuous and very difficult. okay, so from what you've done, i appreciate you just giving us a so so as outlined, sketch it sounds like they were overwhelmed by the circumstances they faced and the mandate kept changing. the amount of data kept changing and more often than
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not the money this way, not up to speed in relation to the challenge just on the ground. let me give you a better to come example of how me use my it's so for submission demo street at multiple hired right to use of power and influence amongst the tools themselves. different countries bringing in different crews perception of 4 that must allow secure with the interest rate and not for them by them interest rate. so if i choose, for example, the introduction to this particular program that we had discussed, the intro said that gen my manual was the quote. to show my lands how to defend the country. that kind of cute and that kind of interpretation and disclose that's not bring trust and that's not creeds. i mean, the blink environment within which the country that meets international lack of
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support for one accepted. okay, so it sounds like it was, it sounds like it was how strong from the stats now it's been withdrawn. what effects will that to you and withdrawal have on security in malia and the wider region as well? 2 things. first, we need to invest on the outside calculated the own capacities to be able to defend themselves. so be fairly negative and data analysis that the whole country might collapse and this is going to affect this. so the whole, somebody just, just that's not quick. number 2, we see you jewel, jewel products kind of and just started to configurations. mattie ok not fast j farming and new i lambs, my book, you know, foster j gamma like body of why not. julia s. sam, i some upset about plumbing deep. i tried to use it, there was
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a such an african agency that quite a number of our populous at home, willing and reluctant to be a nice and then realize the problem. that's when our populace and let's not forget that embody a new in new jersey. in particular. we've had multiple states of 3 different types of capacities. the ball field to buy time. i think we need to come to the drawing table, right? and then as a property, i interested in the come on go see how best do we do. okay, but that is a sounds like we had 10 years of, of this you any intervention in which the sun is kept shifting underneath the view site. now that africans are taking agency and ownership of this problem, but again, it sounds like there is a difference in each reputation of what is going on. so the whole thing sounds like
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a mess. and it also sounds like you actually think, despite that the region is back to off we have out based outside intervention as a 2nd to verse. and that look at the problem through the eyes of the those will show the appropriate. it's a better way of solving those cutting just where to offer it at force at stabilizing our for down country. simple findings default is looked at most through. after kind of is this on monday, i'm good but cannot fossil. and he said, let's just write down a little duct, you didn't necessarily trust lenses of the you can then realize the front suspension of the capacity building the dimensions. but at the approach you decided to avenue just directed exactly the same problems at this growing international advocacy block, they are tending to look at that from an individual nationalistic problem. problem
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looking at it as a regional issue is just said that they are doing the wrong thing. as i said, when the expert, as i've left, we are looking at the i as new. alas, malleable, cannot 5. so need yet we are looking at the crowd initiative multiple cannot possibly jag and i like would you want to go? nigeria us with an observer status? yeah, i was looking at this. i still mistake originally intended 10 big crisis that needs a co invest. i'm going to be able to resolve it. well, i'm looking at this telling us again, our problem. okay. not a problem to problem. no, that's what i likes to not practice. i've. that's what you, i guess, looking at just through the last of the admission of interest. and i think it's important for their customers to adjust that. okay, that's fine. that's true, but she does stand decaying and how i guess about how to do with their permits.
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so i got, sophia is very sick. i've got that. thank you so much for that for talk us through that professor, professor at quite a say, i think from because you're on an international peacekeeping training center in gone, have a good weekend. a lot was the day you and also the way to follow some social media platforms at dw news. and so i'd like to start headlines is always a d, w dot com or the d w. every day of a great weekend. the
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