between armenia and suffice on that's off of the bricks. of course you can always get the one who was on our website at w dot com and to follow up on our folks with me to handle that at do. doug junior, i'm number such as well. thank you so much for being with us. the world in progress pop calls to everyone who wants to know more about the topic. second son of about this story is beyond the headlines world in progress. the w talk that these 2 countries have been enemies for decades. this is a survey, john, and this is our mean. yeah. they should have a long history of an extensions. you might have heard of the color of a horse,

but now they might finally be able to bury their vending machine. they say they want to sign up the street, but there are still a lot of bias to overcome. just look at this. as everybody, johnson exclaimed, like each of us, it has no connection to the countries mainland, and in between these armenia, why is this a big deal? because the 2 states argue over how other bit john could connect to each explain. they must be an easy access to shipping. no checks, $9.00 to $5000.00 you to month to month. right. highest. find the about that a bit. jonah in armenia and as a by john, nobody should open the roads through each other. without the above mentioned, quarter door logic. me mounts how about $50.00 at the check points of those roads. i've done border and other relevant control services. a goal should also remind you of, i'm a bit of a need, a school concert. i assume that it's

a fight over control of this connection. let's go to design because there are mounting using the cell farming. yeah. to find out more here on this narrow and flat to punch between the mountains is where the connection could run. under bmw claims, it could be compiled of a key tray route, connecting china and to europe. this would have huge impact on the balance of power into soft coal causes a reading between ukraine and the middle east. turkey, russia and the wrong are in the diplomatic talk of war over the connection that you and to us are getting involved as well. so let's find out this issue which tends in the way of peace on the southern most to provide media right between us there. but john and effects place there was a ton of magazine abundance train station is now with the center of the geo

political struggle in the boss. some 70 trays would drive force you every day. it was also the way to get from us or be just copy, told by cool the army. yes, company. there was event, a diplomatic train running between moscow and tara but the station has been shut down for over free decades. why? in the late 19 ages, tensions erupt between armenia and also be john and they went to war and comfortable full tice. as a result, the railway trucks were dismantled and sold for scrap metal. and the mcmurry station fell into roy and today arming and as everybody jump both say they want to see the operating again, there was a chance this might happen. they want to normalize the relations, but the up to a district to can be slippery. is there for the left side, all the develop of, of dialogue. but um,

it's still pretty mature to say that we will it each piece to it just so todd, each of the, of this terminal, the 0 be jones, governmental foreign policy. think duncan, by cool, people in our media, my friend who's picking a title of knows the floors and most of the building was that it appears that any new board will bring only you lucy's. and you have any of us young is a foreign policy experts based and yet have on i believe that these areas and hope is do they need 2024 different or that are writing transits escalation. conflicting visions for the connection to language. yvonne are one of the main sticking points . to understand this conflict, we need to talk about how these partners came about in the early 19 twenty's farming. and those are big jungle conquered by the red army and became part of the soviet union. their borders. what does he need it under? so the tool this map from 1928 shows as well. 2 territories received the special

status lean grounds for future conflicts to the west of armenia and other be joining x people bless each. yvonne was created as regina survey john area, not going to kind of us populated mostly by our meals. what's the drugs that i was telling them? but then they were only administrative borders within one country. the soviet union, the people could easily travel without and border controls at the many places armenians. and those are be johnny's with neighbors and called the just looking to make your station were approximately half the work as a medium and the other half of the way. but things changed fundamentally when the soviet union started collapsing in the late 19 eighties. this is when collections that wrapped up between the armenians who are mostly christian and also be johnny swan mostly mostly in the administrative lines on the mock became viewable theirs. and the results for conflict in the run up to our meeting,

another bridge on independence in 1991 by then a full fledged war had the wrapped it overnight. garner carroll buff. it is internationally recognized as the restorative as everybody john. but mostly armenia lived there. after 6 years of war means one and 2 control over a car boss and for their territories. displacing some hop in the series. in 2020, the 2nd of cobb us war broke out a survey on no domain. they took the battlefield and the ceasefire was signed under russian mediation. it was in this document, the other by john secured the demands to collect, fits, explained by army and territory. pardon me, i agreed to guarantee the security of trustful connections between serbia, john and exec be like each of us that keep in mind one important detail according to this document. these were russian soldiers who shall be responsible for overseeing that for us. but connections. we'll get back to that later.

bible says that these are the zip code or would become part of what is known as the middle of cory, the x rays connecting china. and you are by essentially asian turkey and armenia with the profit as well. i think these additional links which go will go to solve to connect again are mean yeah, russia as it are by john. the jerky drawn little bit like inputs and the additional route. i think it will be beneficial for all part just once what it calls easy access to its x rays. that means no customs, no border controls. so but just president has in the past, present authentic quarter by force farming yet doesn't deliver but armenia has been unwilling to open the connection on back whose terms it's warring that it might

lose control over this narrow strip of land. was the months that plays there will be no customer control, border control and customer control default for me to explain it a little closer. there is no password for the customs control. all we can speak about in september 2020 free diesel res became even greater after as early john broke the ceasefire and swiftly to control over the whole of not going to colorado . as a result, to some 100000 people selected, he was out on the most region to armenia. europe on has given up to retail. y'all claims over not going to come of us, but other sticking points we made. first of all, there was no agreement about the delineation of the come on board there. secondly, both countries claim to refugees right to return. and finally, what about the connection tonight? each of them armenia also has an interest in opening up. it's a non blocked country and ever since the 1st car before our meeting as borders with

survey, john and it's l i. turkey remain closed. this is anything that countries development as it can only trade with georgia to the north. and d run to the south. so here if i'm his account or block codes crossroads of piece, the country which is considered the most democratic and the region, wants to open the whole network of road spend rate of roads to us. everybody. john entered the abundance ray. we connection by a main greek is among them, but it wants to keep full control over its roads and territory to come up. it's all about control of this strategic connection in blunt, but not only army under survey, john are pulling it up, wasn't against the rope here. russia has historically been that, i mean, yes, that like, it has 10000 soldiers and the military base in the country. both states are members of the collective security treaty organization, or see us deal sometimes called the russian, that alternative to nato russian soldiers have been stationed on, i mean, yes,

board. there's this after the collapse of the soviet union like you and to solve what is i'm going to call you could run. and they would like to stay here because boots on the ground, give russia leverage and the region. their presence is also important to us. everybody john, as a tories for the security of its people travelling for our media. but our meals are increasingly disappointed with their ally, russia, and i'm willing to see most cool s p's guarantor a turkey is close to that other bridge as close as that, like it has a short border with knocking to yvonne. so its design cars are corey door becomes a reality. it will get it directly to us or be just mainland and to central asia. just a few days of to be taken care of by therapist president at dawn. and does there be just a yes, rush to this meeting in the future on suggesting that this could be done next focus . 3rd cushion does there be joining military health exercises here for their soaking? army and fears? such a collection would also strengthen the organization of 30 states,

the cooperation chunk guns by turkey. during the last summit, president of the one mobilized support for the issue. not too much to the, the opening of the lame will not only contribute to the wellbeing of all countries in the region, but will also connect tarkey with it's unsuccessful, homeless central asia, for the successful completion of this phase, we are talking world must continue to support as it by john, by this newly opened the call. so that building shows, there is one more power here which has been blocking, 13th russia so far. it's the wrong turn around. so you design cause or call either a strengthening the influence of 13, which is a regional arrival in the nato member. opening a new cost of that into self alarming. yeah. right next to us or be junk folder, or seen a support for yet if i'm interested by cool but behind the dictionaries blow

cage, there is also its own economic interest. today, a lot of trust, but between central asia and 13 goes for you run and alternative connection would mean economic losses for texture. and that's why you run off or does everybody, john, and you train connection to the next grade by its own territory. it is now being developed azerbaijan, in 13, now say armenia would miss out if it doesn't give way or what the connection. well yeah, you run once, provide them with what they want most, a route without border controls. the european union is getting involved as well. on the one hand, it is buying gas from a survey general buy a pipeline took utility, so he doesn't want any escalation that could disturb supply. on the other hand, it is supporting armenia and the recently started and also evasion mission on army as borders. and did you west is also against any

connections by all you wrong. but brussels and washington are far away. the war in armenia is that it could be arm twisted into concessions by other by john working together was 30 and russia. the, however, there are signs of holes like this exchange of prisoners, a for army end of their a big jump, agreed to do it as a trust building measure. step like this should help to negotiate a peace treaty. a legacy of conflict lingers over both countries as everybody john is emboldened by recent victories and has a strong negotiating position. people in armenia are ready to accept even babies the like even there will be a peace deal, which mostly will be in favor of us or by john. because no peace deal news. and another escalation, agreeing to lay down, arms and signing the peace treaty could take priority now with no compromise on transport connection inside the issue could be postponed. and i'm not sure about

that to be reflected in the 3 to maybe the principal, the opening opening or does position next will be there. but the, my thought at this and some of the details of the separate at the so what about the abundance of the train station and magazine, at least for now it remains neglected. but ultimately, opening connections like this one will be necessary to reach a long lasting piece was installed to i'm not supposed to speak about near future, but in long term with the generational change in mind brings into a durable piece because it's gonna be happening with you several months or even several years, but the long term you've regional communications are open. definitely this will mean more interaction between people on more interaction, different ok leads to more understanding of each other. if that one day succeeds to in design cause or mountings, people will finally be able to leave and cross peacefully without having to fear

another war. the, the slow crew come fixing ukraine will soon head into its 3rd year with the pressure on care to advance on the battlefield and re energized support in the west . my guess from belin is alexander w. director of the con, the russia you raises center. the bad news is that, unfortunately, the support for your trade in the west or operate is going down for now. russia's economy has stabilized, and mr. pretend incisive on war crimes charges is none. the less finding plenty of friends to talk to and visit so well as new phone.