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the, the, you're watching, you know, the news coming to live from berlin as well, facing charges of genocide at the international court of justice at the hague. south africa is accusing israel of reaching the u. n's, genocide, convention allegations that israel calls baseless. also coming up on our show riots and pop when your guinea as police strike overpaid the prime minister calls for common, declares a state of emergency to deal with widespread moving lawlessness. and our sense and germany's foreign minister hits out at china on a trip to the philippines, atlanta, barebones, here's the spacing of risky maneuvers in the south china sea and richard international law, the
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clare richardson, welcome the international court of justice and the hague. has begun. harry accusations of genocide brought against israel by south africa and the case itself could take years. but today, south africa has been asking the court to order is relative, immediately hold its military operations in gaza. hearings this week, we'll focus on that request for emergency measures to me and pose much sooner. south africa has long support of the palestinians linking their struggle to its own history of fighting apartheid to israel for its part has a strongly denied the claims calling the accusations baseless. israel's hayes is doing all that can to avoid civilian casualties in gaza as it responds to how much this terrorist attack last october. but south africa alleges,
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not only is this on true, but the israel's campaign is targeting kind of simians with the aim of wiping them out as a people. and it's more than 80 page filing to the world. cool in the hague. south africa argues accent, emissions by israel, a genocidal in character as they are committed with the requisite specific intent to destroy palestinians and gaza as parts of the broad palestinian national, racial and ethnic group. it goes on to say this constitutes a breached by israel, of its obligations under the genocide convention. a document drawn up in 1948 and the aftermath of the whole, the cost, which by israel in south africa have signed israel. those states, it has a right to self defense after the bloodiest attack in its history. its officials have renounced with anger to south africa's filing,
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pointing out but how mosque continues to call for the destruction of the jewish state. israel says it will flank back in the cold to the state of israel will appear before the international court of justice at the hague. to dispel south africa is absurd blood libel. how tragic. but the rainbow nation that prides itself on fighting racism will be fighting pro bono for anti jewish races. palestinians in garza and the rest of the world, we'd be looking closely at the quotes response to south africa's request. a provisional routing could come within weeks, but any final judgement is expected to take is kathleen. paul is an associate professor of law at the university of cape town. she's also an expert on international organizations and the interface between law and politics. in the international arena. i spoke to her earlier and asked if she thinks that south africa has a convincing case here. good afternoon. yes,
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i have been following the proceedings, and i will survey the full page application that for the african center and in advance. and i think it makes an extremely strong case and, and certainly the legal argument this morning was pub, or each member of a very impressive, a legal team dealt with each aspect that had to be proven before south africa can get provisional measures indicated against israel. and effective full sauce to some provisional measures against itself to stop the military on fluid in gaza, to preserve evidence, and to ensure that cousins are given the ability to survive in that's food, water, electricity gets restored, and this medical health and human interior and aid is available, let's take a little bit more 1st then about these of provisional measures. i understand the i c, j is expected to decide within a week's a,
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including whether there will be an emergency suspension of israel's campaign in gaza. what will the court be basing its decision on or will this will the things that they actually can started so, so the frontier has to prove, in order to get provisional nations. one is that the quote has a team a fuck, a case of jurisdiction. so not whether it has jurisdiction for say, that is a decision that gets taken later on when the merits of the case. good, you're considered. but joseph says opposable case that's being made for jurisdiction. that's quite easy in this case because most of the african israel or parties to the genocide convention, which gives us the eyes to judge jurisdiction if the disputes about whether the state is responsible for genocide. so that's quite easy. and then so that's like it has to show that it has a rights to bring the case. and it's done this on the basis that it's a policy to the genocide convention. and that it has an obligation under the genocide convention to prevent genocide much as much to committed. and it relies
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the case of columbia versus neon ma with the i c j a lot. and if we can stage to bring a genocide case against the stairs on another contribution. so that's it's, it's 2nd hurdle that it had to meet. then it had to show that it's the subject matter of its complaint relates to the genocide convention. and it did this by giving a brief overview of the facts, both agenda's title x, that it's containing off. so the destruction of most of gaza. um and the displacement of if you far as the center of its population and then a separate section on genocidal intent where it's cartridge mendez of the is early government. same because it's a career. so it's people connected to the military making statements such as was causal for mac. if you have an area of neighbor go shoot, you know, and so then there was
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a section showing that i just want to jump in there because the speed was through the wider case study that this, these allegations of genocidal indians is that they are, they're going to be looking at statements from is rarely politicians. how else will they try to make their case here? i think that's of those cases. going to turn on genocidal intent because israel has already all get that it's acting in self defense. and you mentioned that in your introduction to, to this discussion. and although that is a difficult quote to make given how disproportionate, the damage has been in gaza. and that has been the strongest because it is all is made so far. but yes, and this is what one of the counsel pointed out this morning in the, in the case before the hague. here's the intention behind all the destruction, but it is not to defend israel, but just to destroy a people in whole or in part. then you've got you on a side. so i think
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a lot of the, the case is going to send to on of genocide and intent. that's what do you need for genocide. you need the apps and you need the intention to inpatient very specific. uh and bear in mind that the intention is going to be to destroy a group in hollow in part, and that group's got to be defined as national, racial, ethnic, or religious and political to the final. and that's why i let you go. i'm sorry. so jumping because we're just running out of time. i'm curious if you could before, before on a how would you rate their chances of success in proving us? i think a very good at getting provisional measures and the arguments this morning made clear that the court has gone to provisional measures when the pressure does that the that was trick and it was being struck in the home to human beings was a lot less than what we're dealing with now, so i was explaining earlier on what the requirements for professional movers is all
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the 4th one is presidents. and it's clear from the president from what the procedure is done in the past. that is prepared to issue provisional measures when there's a risk of bridges. and in this particular case, you've got the prior to this already happening and ongoing. so i think the challenge is, oh good. whatever arguments is what brings tomorrow. may have a bearing on the merits of the case which gets considered later. but on whether you're going to have for visual measures or not, i think it's on likely that as well can prevent them. well, thank you so much for sharing your insights with us. i'm afraid that's all we have time for for now. that's a kathleen poll associate professor of law at the university of cape town, email german economy minister and vice chancellor. robert, how back is on a trip to israel, where he had back against the genocide charges brought by south africa minus his industry. and my personal and political opinion is that 110 criticized these really military for using harsh measures in the gaza strip. however,
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that does not constitute genocide, took a more to pick those who would commit genocide more desire to do so. if given the opportunity or how muscle strong the steel, elation of the state of israel is on their agenda from the rest. so we can understand the slogan from the river to the sea as not to meaning the jews should leave israel by boat, but as an extinction fund to say, allison accusing israel of genocide is a complete distortion of victims and perpetration has in mind. you understand it's just wrong for an upfront on 2 ton. it's your own size of hutch. and i asked you to use rebecca renters in jerusalem for israel as reaction to south africa's claim. well is rouse, obviously going to get it stay in court tomorrow. claire's, we've been hearing to defend the allegations some put against it amazes allegations that israel vehemently denies and vehemently denied all across the board. the whole way along is route and see that it's acting in self defense against what it says. a
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genocidal acts by hamas carried out on october 7th. and in the following days, it insists it maintains that it is doing everything that it can to prevent civilian casualties. and in fact, claims him off for the high death toll saying that the group and using you know civilians as human shields. now just before south africa took the stab, we heard from prime minister benjamin netanyahu. he talked to ex, fully tweet, to the basically reiterate those claim saying that, you know, israel has no desire to to reoccupied garza but it has been acting within international bull. he didn't mentioned the i c j rolling directly, but it was a very significantly timed statement in the optimal if we haven't heard any specific statements from israel, but we know that is around a basic he called i have called south africa criminally complacent with him. us and they saying that they basically the legal alma from us. so you have some very strong statements coming from israel, very clear what their point of view is. there is no,
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it's going to be very interesting to hear just what the defense has to say. tomorrow given the, the, as you just heard that a very strong a case put forward by south africa and looking even a little bit further ahead. and we've heard that south africa is asking the court to impose these binding, preliminary orders on israel, including a halt to with operations in gaza. how likely do you think israel would be to abide by the i c j's decision? it's that's really, really difficult to predict clear on the icy j rulings all legally binding, but they are very, very difficult to enforce. they can be ignored and we sold that with russia in the case in 2023. when it was the ruling, the i c j ruling was for russia to say, so still is he's in ukraine. now that ruling and the fact that ross are ignored, it showed some of the weaknesses of the i c, j. and it's for that reason. but some expense of saying that the i c j make this time, not take it to that links, it may not go away. cooling for a full cessation of hostilities that it may give them on you wants to approach
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ramon. you wants ruling cooling, full more a, to be leaded, to gallons of israel to hold up it's obligations and that kind of thing out you've, that's the ruling. we may well see israel comply by it. but if the ruling is that the israel has just completely seized hostilities, it is very likely that israel could ignore that. but it's just too soon to say rebecca, thank you so much for that update. that's rebecca renters for us and jerusalem. turning out of some other news poplar new guinea has declared a state of emergency looting and arson in the capital port more as they have killed at least 16 people with violence. a triggered by police protesting against the cuts to their pay. the unrest has spread north to the city of ly. and prime minister james morabe has called for calm and explosion of violence in port moresby, marked by protests of soldiers, police and prison guards, overpay cuts or angry crowds towards buildings and ransack shops.
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as the terminal is spread far beyond the capital, 24 hours without police turned into looting on a massive scale. one group of officials and civilians forced their way through a security gate outside the prime minister's office. james morales, a apologize, but said lawlessness would not be tolerated in size. all citizens to step up to date and give respect to your country one more time and thought it's your neighborhood that yesterday that happened. we had knowledge. we looked into how we could port we look at how we would bring responsible people to face a form of law. also, the government has promised to fix what it called a payroll glitch. it's not so far been enough to restore order. australia recently inc. a security deal with pop in new guinea saying it's ready to help the stretch of police force. we continue to urge com at these
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difficult on. we haven't had any requests from the pay and j government. the local authorities are flying police reinforcements into port moore's. the to try and, and the violence. germany's foreign minister has criticized china over its activities in the south china sea. accusing the country of engaging in risk gate maneuvers and elaina bar boxes in the philippines for talks with the leaders of the 1st trip by a warrant, german foreign minister in over a decade. she also criticized asians territorial claims and said that they are not in line with international law. fairbanks at a recent developments in the south china sea or a cause for concern even in europe. i spoke earlier to dw as chief, political correspondent, and nina has a, who's in manila, about these risk, a maneuvers that the german foreign minister is accusing china of,
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of the was explicitly tilt about the incidents from the last couple of months where she says the chinese coast guard used was a cannon and lasers against the filipino supplies ships. and she said that that is completely unacceptable. sometimes in these incidents that were collisions, she says the china needs to show restraint that needs to respect to the philippines board as it must stop expanding and putting the claim on more of the territory of the south china sea. so these are very, very clear. what's coming up from the gym for many so and why has a german 4 minister decided to go to the philippines to, to speak out on this issue? was he says of that, of course, this is a region that is economically speaking highly dynamic and one said of international maritime trade goes through the south china sea. so this is not the fad. the just
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concerns the coastal regions, all the countries that are here. it's also cause of great concern for countries thousands of kilometers away because of cause demi as an export nation, is highly dependent on a free trade and free shipping, free maritime sailing, etc. but she also says it goes about, it goes into direction that is more than just economic interest. she says, what we're talking about here is essentially also having to call on china to use restrained and to protect the rules based order. and she says, so she's very glad that she has the philippines, amongst other countries in this region that are trying to push for everybody to adhere to those international laws that she says. it's something where small countries have to pull together because it's their only tons of a survival. and, you know, just very briefly, is there any chance china will take heed of her warnings?
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you think of, of the why it took about an hour for the chinese to reply to bed bugs quite outspoken statements. and they said that no country that is not in this region has any right to interfere. so that was to be expected and it came in a has a in manila for us. thank you so much for your recording. well, it is one of the biggest consumer tech shows in the world. and this, your c e s in las vegas is going big on artificial intelligence. company showcasing their newest products are demons, a german industrial conglomerate founded in the 19th century. but is the means really a tech company. the siemens keynote was itself and announcement that the german conglomerate is no industrial dinosaur, but a digital innovator among the innovations working with amazon to bring generative ai to its customers and what the ceo calls and industrial co pilot. that envisioning a future where software programs itself and what we need,
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but using less results. so finally, it's still in a cold pilot's version. that means you always have the human in the loop to make a final decision. but as we go along, the integrity and the quantity will go up. so you really can't have a release of a software programmed automatically. and that's the big thing. what do you want to do? this makes scaling technology much, much faster, and using the data in a much more meaningful way. the 170 year old german company is still better known for its turbines and its digital innovations. though the company has been involved in automation and digital industries for some time, it's still often lumped together with slower moving firms. but the venture is part of a modernized siemens tools to enable industrial companies to be more dynamic. we want to get many, many ball more people access to new technologies, any kind of technology automation technology, item ologies without having
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a training and without being an expert on software development business about democratizing. so that means you have to lower the entropy area to people with less experience, less knowledge on programming. but the company faces stiff competition. after all the entire industry is quote, lowering the entry barrier, which means more players in this new arena. siemens can count on his experience and strong customer relationships, but whether it can fight off the competition in the tech space will depend on whether bush and his company can show that a guy and innovations are more than just buzz words. and they are. so for more of this, i'm gonna talk to my colleagues, steven beardsley from dw business and joining me now for there in the studio. hi stephen. this even is getting a keynote address at c e. s. is this now being that it's a tech company? yeah, i mean, they've got to look right. i mean that's, that's certainly fine. but you know, when it comes to the definition of a tech company, even apple ceo tim cook says that his company is not
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a tech company. it's consumer products. so from the beginning, it's sort of tricky to figure out what a tech company is, what it isn't. is siemens, google or microsoft? no, it's not. right. it's from this world of industry and manufacturing that's being heavily influenced by tech. you can look at another the car injury, for example. that's if you wanna look at another german dinosaur, volkswagen. it's also seeing the same influences when it looks, it talks about its products. it talks about tech and software and operating systems as much as it does mechanical engineering. so i think what a lot of these kind of legacy german firms are trying to do is find more modern solutions for areas they've already been active. and do you think that that means that they are then serious about embracing artificial intelligence? i think it seems case sure it is. this is not a firm that is not familiar with artificial intelligence. it already works in areas of automation when it comes to driverless trains when it comes to automated factory floors. when it comes to robotic arms performing surgery, these are areas that is already active, and then there are already
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a applications that is trying out in those areas. what we're talking about here is really generative ai models, these ones that are based on language and every company including siemens is going to try and package some of those models into their products because they're so hot right now. but with the broader view, we also see that these language models, they offer so much potential for interacting with complex systems. basically, we can use normal language. we don't have to be coders to access this kind of wealth of data that exists within machines are already using as that opens up tremendous potential and for a company like siemens it's, it seems to have a lot of overlap with what they're already doing. so german firms moving closer to silicon valley, would you say they've got to look again, but really i don't think anyone is going to expect siemens to be google rights. um, you know, there is more overlap these days. that's going to connect these old guard industrial firms that we see here in germany manufacturing heavy to this kind of younger tech firm that we see in the us. but also partly here in germany and in europe is kind
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of startups. they're going to partner with them. they're going to acquire them as startups, to gain some of that technology. because when they try and build it in house, it can be perilous. sometimes look again at volkswagen. they tried to build their own operating system for electronic for electric vehicles and what's happened and hasn't gone well. so it's a tricky road, but there's probably gonna be more partnerships than there are one company trying to be a different one, steve, and thank you so much for breaking that down for us. that's stephen beardsley from dw business the argentina's new president have young today has backed off on his election promised to replace the pay. so with the dollar internet time to revive the struggling economy. and despite his back tracking and runaway inflation opinion polls show strong public support from allay. this market was founded in port desirous in 1889 a year before one of the many economic crises in argentine as history. now at the store, it's a copy of a lease term, and office prices are rising sharply by at least 70 percent in the case of
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b. a relation to this election campaign on a promise to replace the pay. so with the dollar, which is the 1st move has been to define you, the pay stubs by hoff, the majority of the population still supports him. yeah, and even without that, this is a burden for us, but get rid of the government because the important thing is we picked out the rats that was that before and they had it. and why tell me that i can tell them just a way we have i very much agree with what he's doing now. i don't agree with him changing the currency, but unfortunately all pay so was devalued many years ago. so this isn't just a recent thing that would, i don't mind that the loan, everything costs twice as much, but it most to be expected. so we'll just have to deal with it. but a lot of the results will be seen in the long term. so it'll say one though, i don't know when don't our eyes ation will be possible. no, i don't see it in the immediate future,
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but it's what the people chose in the newest offering. she know gives management advice to small and medium size enterprises these days. he's been consulted to define prices in the face of rising cost. he doesn't palms, basic expenses, but we'll still going to restaurants. we'll send him as he voted from the notes in the 1st round. but in the 2nd, i think there's a need for order and i voted for him from that point of view. i think that society as a whole should give him a grace period, which would be, i don't know, 6 months. we're writing for a client to file or for the free reduction, but we also believe that this is a time of great time set in 2 professional inputs is going to add value economist mathias. that explains why i'm in a rooms out adult thing. dollarization at the beginning of his government, an adult student also don't mix of evaluation and physical adjustment to straighten
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out the passage economy, inherited from the previous government. it or not. but it was a very effective campaign problem, is because it was very disruptive and that allowed him to fill the political agenda need to go. but practically speaking, it was technically impossible to adopt daughter immediately because the central bank doesn't have the reserves. no, you know, set off in order to boost reserves by exposing morning pulsing less the pay. so was the valued. but the government terrified that the objective is still dollarization . since the ones that this complicates the plans in the, in the study, and if they keep a system that the end goal is to change the currency, the time will never come when people will really demand pay. so send them in the basis. unlike an open economies with low inflation, in argentina evaluations bring shop price increases and an initial dropping activity. if all goes well, it's still recovery will take half a year. and that is interrupted at this hour, conflicts down with him, sebastian is coming up next. don't forget there's always more on our website and
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social media channels. i'm sorry, richardson and berlin. that's all for me for now. stay tuned for more news headlines. rankoff coming up in half an hour. thanks for watching the,
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