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the store and on completing the thing about license you have to listen and in google, revealeth secrets, thoughts january 12 on d, w this is the domain is africa coming up on the program? could that be yet more trouble brewing in the horn of africa? somalia responds with theory after it's c o, p is deal with the break away region of so molly land will discuss the implications of this dispute. also coming up in the aftermath of the devastating war. and if you'll, if he has to drive region, many residents don't know where the next meal will come from. the w takes a look at the situation on the ground. plus the gun remembers the bill. so warriors who fought to resist enslavement in the late 18 hundreds and
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the football in bottles began. advocates top tournament kicks off in the ivory coast. we discuss what and who you should look out for the handle. i'm told me on the radical welcome to the program. there's a parole in somalia because the break away states of somebody lined recently signed a deal granting if you will get access to the sea. in the memorandum of understanding some of the land would lease a 20 to allow me to stretch of its coastline to neighboring. if you help you, which is landlocked, you opens in return would be the 1st nation to recognize the molly land as an independent country. somalia, meanwhile, has lashed out calling the deal. a violation of its sovereignty. its pledging to defend its territory by any legal means. but for that, i'll kill somebody. well,
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i will keep you step is an offensive. you got a bit in dangers. the stability and peace of the region is what i, which is already wobbling with probable runs. uh, it is a violation of an open invasion of somalia sovereignty about what you kind of why not have freedom and unity of the federal republic of somalia, but by the name of the mother to the ordinary. some of these were also up in arms with many taking part in protest after the agreement was announced, the anger was directed, not just if you'll be a but also at so modeling on, which they say is still part of somalia. despite its claims of being an independent state, tens of thousands joined protest and the symbolic capital mogadishu. they came to support the government and its claim that simone alons deal with if you appear, is both an act of aggression and
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a violation of somalis sovereignty. most of the you have to sell the house, you live in our territory awards in land and not for sale of the protest to say simone island has no right to conclude such an agreement as it is not an independent state on the coastline in the gulf of aiden to which it has granted it's your ip access belongs to somalia. the issue of smoking on status has been fruit for decades. the territory broke away from somalia union left truly 1991. after that country was plunged into chaos following a civil war. the ousting of the president but the international community has never recognized it as an independent nation. despite this small island has all the trappings of a sovereign state. it has its own currency, its own government and police schools. its enjoys greatest abilities in somalia,
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but the observer say it is held back by the lack of recognition as these limits access to foreign loans and investment. making like hard for people in a region, but he's already impoverished. in the current dispute, many nations, a calling for somalia, suffering t to be respected. let's bring in obama moods senior analyst for eastern africa at the international crisis group. welcome to dw me, is advocate amar. now, just to be clear, if you will be a, has not yet to officially recognized somebody that does an independent state, but just by engaging with them and signing this deal, they've infuriated somebody is government. so should the region be worried as well? i think it is a concern. i mean, certainly somali is, is very angry. at this point. we've seen a lot of statements from the somali government, we've seen them marshalling some international supports of and in favor of their
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position. and you know, there's some of the, as never recognize somebody lands self declared independence and, and so they view this as part of their territory. they view this as a sovereignty issue. so, so they're definitely quite upset. and i think that has reverberating consequences for the horn of africa that you feel some of the relationship, especially from a security standpoint, is quite important in terms of calm body, melcher bob and security along their border. and so if, if this dispute is not resolved, no attention is continued to flare. uh, you know, i think we should be worried about repercussions around those lines. uh, does that mean that is the opiate could withdrawal uh with, with that its presence in some of the other troops fighting all should bible or is it not going to go that far as well? i think that's far, you know, some of the as, and then you will be both of been a little careful around this, you know,
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they haven't resorted to very quick sort of, um, you know, emotional measures like abruptly pulling out forces and whatnot. but if this deal continues to go ahead, i mean the, the nature of the, if you will be a smaller relationship, would not continue as, as it has been to date. i mean, in, so you might see some pressure down the road. i think that's more of a down the road concern still but but definitely a concern. uh if you had that sort of southern um withdraw all the forces. whether that was that was if you'll be instigating or some of your pushing for it, then there would be a vacuum in those areas and that would very much be concern. but again, i think, you know, both sides have been very careful to keep this in the diplomatic realm thus far. try to pursue, um, you know, uh some sort of resolution diplomatically and, and not not fall over into those into those other areas. but the reason that the internal conflict where we have some island, which is relatively stable, while the rest of the somalia is and so what leverage does somebody government in
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mogadishu have in this dispute as well. the somali government is still the internationally recognized government for the territory of somalia, which given that some of the lands continues to be an unrecognized entity, internationally in terms of international regulations and and whatnot, falls under it. and that's how a lot of international actors do engage somali way and operate though they still operate in deference to some of the, in, in mobile issue. and so i think some of the, it does have that leverage in that sense. um, they're, they're, they're marshalling some of their allies around this. they're present in some international forums where obviously some of the land doesn't have a seat, you know, whether that's originally up a you, but even internationally at the u. n. level. and in so there is some leverage and in that regard that i think some of the a can can marshal some, some support. but if we're talking in terms of physically trying to,
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to stop something or trying to, to prevent somebody, i think that's a difficult prospect to see in one that really opens up the prospect of, of a wider concept. no more. are there any signs now that if you, if he has taken this step of any science other nations could follow susan, recognizing somebody lined in some way, especially considering its strategic location. so i haven't really seen any, you know, indications specifically from, from other nations that would follow suit. you know, there's always been this theory that uh, at least you know, the theory that, that those and, and some of the land promote that. they just need one. um, you know, country to recognize them and others would follow suit. uh that remains very much to be seen. um and you know, i think we're still a ways down from that. you know, we, we should remember that this is a preliminary sort of, uh, agreement that if you will be and some of the vantage they've come to there's, there's technical teams that would try to hash this out and,
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and see exactly where with land. um so, so a lot of that still remains to be to be determined, but i, i wouldn't expect a full day lose to follow with this per say, given that it's such a if you'll be a century dynamic. okay. i'm on my mind from the national crisis group. thank you very much for speaking to us in ethiopia, authorities in take why the northern states, uh wanting that the area is on the brink of famine to drive entering president gets actual reta says at least 90 percent of the people that are at risk of dying of starvation, he adds that the crisis was the result of the aftermath of the war, which ended just over a year ago as well as an ongoing drought. and the lack of aid if you will be in government and that is ab about says the claims are exaggerated. the u. m and the u . s. temporarily suspended 8 supplies last year, following allegations of fest be entering president,
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detach you is urging both of the international community and the fuel pi and government to intervene and t, right. to save lives, new reports the media, and haile selassie reports from the region. this, this is all that's 70 years old, get bremond seeing how goes and his family had been able to have his, in present months, barely enough to survive. oh, there's famine, we are starving aluminum and crisis for some days. i'm able to find something to eat. the days i go to bed with an empty stomach, what can we do? where can we go? how long could as conditions west 7th i because so many and many young people left the area. but most of the lease bank like apartments in most of these capital have died only a few months. i left it's the result of 4 years of phase rates, including the west, jolting decades as well as the device. the thing was in the copious degree future.
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hipaa now we have farmers who worked our land where we couldn't do that and we would travel to places where we worked the money, the where can we go now? i'm losing home. i don't have sheep or cows. i can sell that, isn't it? so then they, you, as was for the program in the us agency for international development, suspended that you money to the end deliveries. i left the c a of i must have crap . so scheme in which the copy of officials to grad and as each of forces had reportedly looted foot 8 to send legally in the markets. based significantly less than a situation with more than 1400 people having to dev. since then, the local administrator in the district has declared a state of emergency close on that 85 percent of presidents have barely any food to eat me. people are dying in front of
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a rise. the government and non governmental organizations have to take responsibility and do what they can to alleviate the suffering. you know that you and us it does have agreed to resume food. identity varies with improved money. totally. quite. yeah. give me shit. hopefully. between arrived too late. save department the the god knows what will come next. i want to see we have is mercy. we will eat. if we don't, we will die. no, there's not much else we can do it either. way to, despite the short term relief people here in too great worry that there was, might not see their needs as an agent, as, as a crisis unfolds elsewhere in the wide i'm not joined by samuel guitar. you, he's a journalist based and added that by and he just got back from the take. why region samuel,
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welcome to the program. now what did you see on your trip that just tell us just what the situation is like? so we went outside of what lead we went to a ton of village called a huge, loud which had a conflict during the tube and were facing thousands of people. i saw people that are really starving being uptake to by this time. and that's going on across the region. i swear to many people, old people, young people who have eaten for days waiting for any kind of support from international organizations, including us a id in the world food program, but delivered some kind of aide a few weeks ago. and they've been waiting the contents they have, we need be the struggling for many, many, perhaps mongers. mentioned some age coming through now just how
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much is it sufficient for the people. as with most of the villages, including the administrator of the village, told me that the last time they received any kind of aid was from us a id and they focused on the id piece. the people that came from outside of the villages that were in a bad situation in terms ofa not getting any kind of support, but the whole village it seems, are in need of some kind of support. this is perhaps a, you know, something that money or plus i reminded of the 1984 timing where 1000000 sofa ethiopians, especially in this region, were affected. and 2 people that are older is really a reminder of what the fuel bill went through. and even the president of, that's a great region has said, this is something that's comparable to the 9th waiting for it to type time. and so the region is really, you know, softly and you can tell it as soon as you arrived just outside of the company
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publicly. i'm just on that point the, the, the, as he's mentioned, the t right. uh for the saying, the situation is approaching a firm, and meanwhile the govern, denied. this is saying this is exaggerated. we think the 2 sides, even though they signed a deal to end the war, we see them giving completely conflicting information about what's going on. does that mean they are still very much at odds, even though the fighting has stopped when they show up and government has been so saying that the supporting the region there to give the support 8 to the region. but i can only tell you from once i've seen, i'm seeing people lots of really struggling people. that's how really facing the fireman. we're beginning to see, you know, just in to guy. but in the regions of this country, people are really, really suffering. and the government has acknowledged that they need support,
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but they've said it's nothing like a fundamental made to me before. i think that's where the differences between the regional government and the federal government is. but for once we've seen is a more immediate side arriving into great need. many people are starving and you can see it again, remove your competence. so again, i can only tell you from what i've seen, but many, many people are suffering and time and seems to be coming back to this country once again. the anti apartheid photojournalist time i go by there has been laid to rest in johannesburg, south africa just over a week after he died. at the age of $91.00 megabyte is award winning imagery, documented key events in south africa as a positive era, including the racial oppression and brutal violence. as well as the campaign to free. the imprisoned, nelson mandela who would lead to appoint him his official photographer. after
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becoming president, or you're watching dw news, africa still to calm. the african cup of nations returns, who will be crowned the continents champions. the 1st we go to north east and gone where the bills of people have been mocking the annual field festival, where they celebrate the great feat of their warriors in the late 18. hundreds they fort off invaders and avoid it. and slave meant, here's a report on this. he has commemoration from dw maxwell soak in the town of sun demo boats. the warriors have historically been reviewed here and gotten us for yes. right. as came from the saw hill to in slaves the both but failed. legend has it that the both of traditional weapons proved superior to the integrated european
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guns carried by the invaders. the bows and arrows of the boys as which chaplain longer and these were a powerful arrows boys in ours. so select us touch it. you know sometimes that both the tactics and battle may also have being decisive and knowing that they relied on the hosses . this rate is a large, you know, where, where haws back of the people to talk to target the horses 1st. so who exactly was attacking northern got 2 names have been handed down in oral history. firstly, the notorious summary, 2 or 3 who fought europe, team colonize us, but also enslaved his fellow africans until his pseudo empire fell to the invaders
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. and nothing will load was the and famous brother to protect the bull site in the 18 ninety's. i need to be defeated close to sunday. the both of our u. s. united and even today, they're at my ed. i'm oklahoma. i lead our ancestors use this to free our land from slave raiders. i'm about to come over and you know, that's why we're most honor their efforts every year. and you said you end up an investment at the corporate more drawback for young low cost the tradition still lives on. * i do on that. so we are here at short that we are still photo. we know it's not because of the fuss wise. yeah. oh, what else i've been going because of the parts. all right, that's what i remember them. they were fighting slavery after the evolution of trans atlantic slave trade. domestic slavery by africans
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continued underly disliked by 2, and some will re, to rate some researches suggest this was to concord territory and build up the numbers the does it about maybe or says and trying to put the default on people that like the european. so if you did, it says, then they wouldn't have done anything this, but we did this issue that seems to be shared by the advocates. many have feel that the popular narrative around the history of slavery focuses mainly on dyes and slaved, whilst ignoring the uniqueness of those who resist that. this element of a group of people standing, i guess it's in fact and i guess it's, it's not about being told what that within the african continent all in the western world did
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a story that still those emotions as people here on the bill side. chief ment the, it's that time again we get to witness the best of the continents footballing talent at the africa club of nations. and this addition is being hosted by the ivory coast and teams, all gathering all set to full action this, this competition as africa's football power houses, bottle it out to the whole, bring joy to the people as champions many european clubs are unhappy about losing the african plans to this tournament, but it's probably a sign of the quality that will be on display. now to discuss more about this exciting tournament of what should be an exciting tournament. all sports expert, law id id, we joys me here in studio love at a good to see you. now reminders, 1st of all, why we having ask on 2023 in 2024. well, and i,
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because i was supposed to host in 2023 in june, july, it was scheduled for june july, but because of the readings in west africa is really heavy and they have to postpone it to january 2024. and this has affected, you know, many of dental just because they are using that with some of the best play as to the tournament. and but cops as they have to do with it. but eventually we hope is, is going to be a really good tournament for everybody. and then the funds, the countries then you expected some good surprises. yeah. with, with january and february being that the dry a month. um, because the host, are they ready for this big event? i because how the present is 6 stadiums and they spend about $1500000000.00 trying to set up uh, cost of the new rules and new hotels expect uh about 1500000 funds visiting. so you
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know, the, the one hosting really quick potty for the content and uh, it's looking like it's going to be really good. one of the best f, f combs i've seen in ages. so i think they're ready. what kinds of bottles are, were you intending to do? we think we'll see particularly from the group stage, but also going forward. well the opening game because these are expected to, to really do griffin's down the pressure. but in that group they had, they had nigeria for the 2nd game, right? it's going to be one of the biggest bottles. you also have egypt versus a gun. now you have come everywhere. so send you guys. these are real tough matchups in, in, on the continent then if they're shipping up to the plastics, you know, so it's, it's really going to be an overall. let me put you on the spot now. who is your own? who's your money on to? to win this 100. wow. um the hosting you got, i, i coming back. this is a good movie defending junk, and then i go,
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sorry, this brand new to i'm gonna send you that either cause that whole so they also, i mean on that aspect that to do with that tool. but the egypt, egypt. and the last, the last uh, i find out the synagogue, they lost also in 2017 to come in and i think that's still a really good side. but yeah, i'm nicer. and i hope this the way it was come to play. i know we have a real shortage in, in some departments, the goal keeping an interest to a few people. good, nice individual bony face will be a level considering the on the eve of the tournament, which is, which is really a shame. but um i, i hope, uh, it's going to be a good time for niger, but we can also see the exactly from the funds that i think we can listen to. some of them now and hear what to say. okay. i'd prefer embody to in the 1st task and he in the ivory coast was a library kinda always go and confident as they start to win matches like we're in
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a positive state of mind. and i have confidence in the coach you know, saying that the favor, i don't use the i've all readings themselves know that we're going community against ivory coast line. so going to to, to the other team. but as of right now, it's going to be a crazy atmosphere because everyone knows ivory coast is a country of joy as well. so i just hope it's going to be a very good console. what kind of, you know, i'm sure will be treated to a delightful learning treat thinking on that day for your insights and thank you for being with us. that's it for us for now, but your time keep up with the news from us going and indeed a wide range of other stories on dw com, forward slash africa on our social media pages. we'll leave you with some pictures of some of the top teams in it's 2 minutes. ask who i'm see you next time. bye for now. the
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