to show you how climate change and environmental conservation is taking shape around the world and how we can make a difference. knowledge grows through sharing, download it now for the, the israel, her boss was moved briefly to an open courtroom in the hague. as the international court of justice hud accusations that as well had committed genocide, gaza palestinians, welcome to move, including my guest stuff about booty and the west bank who had filed a city of national initiative was the one from the court immediately to allow me is to say that there isn't a mission of genocide and to give it as an add on or the stop no property, the pro is violent and so it gets all civilians. but he was a special combinations of israel. so how will the war and how will the hatred of

good faith and con garza ever be rebuilt, the better future be salvage the little, the suffering of destruction. the welcome to complex of thank you, but to be with you, you've said that as well is failing. it's declared items in the cause of war, but jerusalem exists it. how boss will be liquidated, and the fighting will go on until that happens. do you seriously doubt israel is ability to achieve as a yeah, absolutely, i'm not on the mean. i think the media isn't really that is like as in god who has a number of the what have been thought of saying the same as an in the nothing you know is trying to create an impossible mission by trying to display how much, how much is not just admitted that it's structured, it's much this is much bigger than that. and the, i don't think the, this, this is

a good that should be pursuant. i think that i have which is to ask, what can be done to and just for the situation. yes, but let's go ahead and there come by, my boss is a minute to find a city. a group is classified as a terrorist organization. jeopardy, the you, us, do you really think at some point as well, we'll just give up the fight against it is all right, and we'll have to make these was all ballasting is including time us. there is no other way. eh, meant then, and book your patient is not the solution. thinking of ethnic cleansing as a solution is also impossible. so there is only one way in and the, to my knowledge how most wouldn't be able to do to accept a listing. and steve, within that acts of that expected to steps usually have to design launched. but to continue with this occupation will not be plunder solution onto piece. i want to

get into just what kind of future you envisage for the palestinians a bit later. but there's been a huge debate around the world about the force of israel's response to what happened on october. the 7th you have of course, condemned that responds re lease in the west to tackle ju, since the 2nd world war women and children of people with murder, some or even right to a sexually abused for some of the we're actually in the peace movement. is it turn that? how was there as well supposed to react to that the festival let's. i agree that i do not accept that. can you go to the engineering go to the human? do you think i need to be on the policy now known as the name? but i don't think that the fact that the csr isn't it shouldn't come that they just unacceptable is their job certification. fucking 10001st thing in terms of the death is unacceptable. but you're not the, i'm the, i'm,

the history does not start from this isn't supposed to. but the big question here is how many pundits doing ends up being killed since 1948. and what happened before the 7th of october. if we have time, i can describe that. but i think the message that by this thing is we have this evening that isn't, it does not belong to. these does not belong to allow of other students, students, and documentation and nothing else, but in the united nations and kind of the model is showing the annexation of small on the west bank, also garza and the cdn to buy the heights. nothing, you know is declaring company do not use the best prime minister to prevent a listing in states. so often investigation planned on violence. is it to continue the environmental guys which has already taken the lives of 29000 people? if we include the people on the table or to find

a different monthly winter you haven't gotten. so my question, which was how was israel supposed to respond to what happened on october? the 7th, we can get it to the history we will get into the history. but, but what kind of response would you expect israel to have made? i'm didn't. how much expected it would be exactly what happened? exactly what happened? look at it, how is it as responded with boom, bottom into guts, continuously for the see leaks using on types of s. dykes that is like 70 percent of all the houses income. you know, according to the most recent, it is the point during the 2nd world war, germany has on the 10 percent of all the homes and does that and get unlimited storage unit on 2nd. what is it? i'm not the proportion of the different sorts of different options,

but what would have been proportion, but what would it be that point of, you know, what would be proportional is to say to the world enough is enough with this settlement violence. we don't want this to continue and the end of the patient to i am not going to conduct the thought and i know that you can killed the patient if you concentrate on the, on the symptom of that event. the cause of the disease. you're saying, you're not saying that's how boss is a was, as i said earlier, to provoke israel and to doing exactly what it did, provoked must've been that tre retaliation event that may as well for it. no, i don't think so. i don't think i must expect that this kind of damage. i don't think so. maybe if they knew what, what was what going to happen? maybe they would have to revise the plans. i don't know, i'm not in the mines, but i know that we've been living so 75 for you as a function of the displacement of ethnic cleansing, which effective 70 percent of the cdn people. i know about 70 percent of the

population of guys that have be able to if you use the lift by is that are in the 1948 and the guys it has to be on the siege for 17 years with no electricity, no water, no running water, no, no, no economy, 80 percent of the people, what i do kid live on employee and 70 percent. where on the positive and what, what did that lead to? i know that's kind of speaking and signed an agreement. i piece, i agree, mental is or what they accept it a very painful and compromise a state on 22 percent on the of the historic palestine. all the united nations said we shouldn't have 44 percent. i'm still isn't it, and wouldn't accept. i know that nathaniel was needing this one. may have that right. mission. wait, wait, wait. tell me that in december 2000 president clinton, guy who had excuse me, israel at who would back overdue estate. on 95 percent of the

west bank, a 100 percent of the gaza strip with lab swaps to compensate for the sacraments control of our barriers of east jerusalem divided sovereignty over the holy sides. provision for the return of many palestinian refugees to the new state. it was even by the reckoning of palestinian company. the date is the best deal that you, what ever offered of yasser arafat turned it down. so you can blame the lots of things, but you have also missed opportunities along the way. this was the largest opportunity that you did miss watson, that you sent them. this is the short what you haven't got this could i know it's a global narrative actually. i know it's not because what's managed uh the negotiations and then is that is that it was not accept listing. and so what i need to go over is to have some that was the main cause. why that these negotiations fins and they did not accept by this to me. i'm going to going over the waters and

the joint on friday. and they did not accept exactly that they would with 0. that's how much time though to buy tickets. i was, so it was the one find the that is another side of that the deal services have you had a better off? no, no, that's good for them. because my, my question is, why is it an up to now, is not saying to the world until you have money. i have to buy the studios. what are they about? this is what it is, the only company in the world which refuses to identify it's bought this nothing you know is saying, i mean we find most likely him until destroyed, so slugged him. nathaniel, the man may have the dimension of his life to can also talk to the potential for the 2 state solution. okay. well the, that, that, that is, that is your narrative. that is the promise. basically a narrative. you have just because you accused me of pushing. israel is narrative,

but that's yours. i want to ask you how important to you is the judge of genocide against israel brought by south africa at the international court of justice. do you do respect that court? absolutely. and i do think that south africa is quite, it's about getting this piece and it does not go into the south africa, then that we have to hold off and to get the quotes, throws out the south african accusations of genocide. we do accept that oral cues, the court of bias. we will not have to sign it by deals by us. you will continue to that are going to mix old, understand what's happening. but if you allow me, when 29000 people knows better studios outcome, mostly civilians, and when 10000 children outcome in less than 3 months, i'm doing 75 percent of the of the horses are destroyed and all you move us, it is, are destroyed and most trusted because i've destroyed and when you have that,

it was my cheek stuck. so it's now, since i'm having a fishing that's out of them by just by isn't in a good many of them and 104, i'm dealing with this like this is general side. and when, when i send you out and money out of that is that it really does declare in the very beginning of the war that on palestinians must be evict. that's what i'm going to sign on. that there's an intention, not the only place to come back, isn't that crazy, but to contact the general side bible embodying the civilian population, israel has rejected the judge on many occasions. and we'll have to wait about several years for the court to give a final decision that may be interesting provisions that is announces, but it could take a long time. we've got the car. what do you want from the court immediately if you allow me is to say that there is a mission of genocide and to give it as an add on or the stop door. or you will

slow resent the quotes if it doesn't do that. no, no, no, we have to step the we, we haven't been appealing to the less than the criminal court for the mount vista bug. what do you, what kind of society, you talked about all the horrors that have been going on and gaza, the destruction, the death, the injuries, the lack of basic supplies, what, what kind of society could emerge from this war? after all, the physical and psychological damage, especially to children, i can literally have such a 100 even amount of damage and destruction we have to is the one is to make it the reason for the events or another way is to make a tunnel percent. i believe in making it an option that you had in mind. it was just an idea to invest a comfortable lot but deepens the business. and we can be built over the country,

but we cannot to be built over the country when we are okay. bye bye. as and in my opinion, the hardwood must see us as equal human beings with eyes of it. when the, when the boy was, sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you when the war ends. you want to see palestinian elections . you set the current crisis, you wrote to show the need for palestinians to have a unit 5 leadership and unified into the national unity government. the majority of power standing forces groups agree with this vision. really, they've never been able to agree on anything like it in the past that allowed unity between rival sections, how many promises were made about elections and then broke. how many publishers about publish the new the t decade after decade idea of the never happened? was it going to happen now? because we've never been in such a difficult situation as we are to the and any of this also been by the student and

politicians must accept that unity is the only way out of this mess. you know me, i've been, i've looked at a frequency relation between 5 m s, i even redid them between them and i was the person who managed to convince them was creating a nation that even if the government in 2007, if that government stayed on if the board cut it, we would have been now in a different situation. we went fed that in 2021. we were just about to have the democratic connections for the 1st time since 2006. unfortunately. is there any evidence of stucco to prevent the elections? they did not allow elections, enjoy those and then the stigma. and also if you use that as an excuse to cancel the elections, which was a big mistake, how do we have elections in 2021? not think about the in front of started with i've got an absolute majority. we would have had to have a democratic coalition. and then

a government control in both west bank and gaza and then on to not just are going to have independence and things angle commission. you say this without goods you but the, you've never showed that the palestinian authority in particular is never sure of much of the way of democratic credentials have. if you look at the flagrant human rights abuses committed by security services, the torture they abuse the top down of free speech. they and that's the way the interruption was. that whole is rails fault. yes, it was not the correct. they made them to not, not, it's not isn't as full alone, but it does lot of really isn't in the fall because because it, i in one step in this thing and also i need to be on the security code on them. they, it's, it's in the united states font in particular that if used to allow us to have democratic 3 elections. ok, let's talk about the united states for a moment. because that view seems to be that any agreement must contain what they

call a political horizon for the palestinians and ultimately a palestinian state. do you trust america to insist on that? again, it hasn't been part of the thinking for a very long time. has it? unfortunately, the states of america has lost that me an opportunity to be a total me do you understand me the kind of between us and visitor and, and that's why i don't think they can live. that's why they are supporting this optimal city against us. and why the out of pocket to see people in the themselves by sending americans on got it to participate in it and the american advisors and, and planes it's, it's not, it's not too late. i don't know if i mean, do you have time? you have to be in boshamp, in this case the united states cannot be in boston because it is becoming a total and complete strategic support. federal is an issue and i guess the student, people just about 13 by you don't have a choice here. you don't have a choice or whatever you would think of the by the administration. a victory by

donald trump in november wasn't exactly the hans, the palestinian position wouldn't. so you're going to need to work with by now whether you like it or not to the palestinian groups on the stop that we live, others used to work with by didn't. it's listed by then who of students from doing excellent friend his duty during the 3 years before the war started when he continued to say that the post test solution is what we need. but it's not time for that. and wednesday nights of states of america did nothing to for us, is that i have to start building 7 months, which is a united states of america mex, it's the main office to can pull it up with the ability to state solution. so it's not our problem, it's not a problem, but let me tell you what, what, what happened with that, and guess a union these days is very dangerous for the whole one. why? because the team isn't on the united states, out of 10 in the world,

that we don't have international law anymore. and that's what is done by those of younger, you know, what that would mean to other countries in this world. it would mean if you have a problem, you can do it if you want. well, at the very end. okay. can you guys look at that closer, closer to hope with you. if you reject violence against civilians you've made that perfectly clear. but if the gentleman by him, i'm not loving advocating environments all my life. i understand but opinion polls in the west bank and gaza show growing approval for violence. what's cool down resistance, just 2 months into the war. 60 percent of palestinians said they'd back a violent struggle up 10 percent from before the conflict on palestinians tired of fighting, they really want more. i assume you have supported the resistance. it's through and then be that many type of resistance of this time is

a big majority of the think that many times it is this does is more effective mainly because it's an outcome the other way, which is the. so when you go see issues, then what's missed that i best this government, but i didn't go through yet. what is there any sort of head to use signing that also the theme in making us compromises and then get the nothing but human emotion . and as it is violation even of the stigma and also to has depriving good from any also to, to whatsoever inventing all the policies and citizen, those back include the well you, we've talking about the about guys about also about the west bank, you know, and the west bank, the army has, could probably be more than $540.00 people since the beginning of last year. and it goes on and set the packing gusts on said lot about receiving work on sundays and rarely government. so that's what i'm, how much does the government be?

yes, but the from the other side, whatever israel did, her mouse was committed to its destruction. wasn't that the august 1998 governor made that clear. there's no solution that set for the palestinian question except through jihad initiatives. proposals and international conferences are a waste of time. factors from us never wanted to tool. it only wanted the fights and by all accounts, it still does is not the truth. not exactly because yes, little with such statements before, but i know exactly how from asked states because i met with them and all that negotiated since we had, i even managed to convince them was non violence of the systems for more than 5 youths during which time was that it was peaceful demonstrations and they were not back. there's supposed to be by there. is there any side? yes, i do you what they can accept? what was included in the national unity program of our national unity government in

2007. and it was clear, i found a simian state on 1967, but that's including these drawers and then i ended up location of that. do you want? i'm just letting you sion, of that i took to the dental by the student, obviously, which is a very, to the bottom of the see if they got it. of course, of course, it's not the 2017. they said there shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the zionist entity. so again, nothing to discuss the thought lift meant to do what mr. this must have said. who is the finance minister in these through a new concept. he's not in the government. that's in the minnesota and the government. he said he called him says he wasn't shy. lambert, i'm calling from central refreshes on the floor. and he said that we, he said that this was from the bank would settlements on this. so that kind of deals with lose any of the staples that on and then they wouldn't have one else. any options either to leave, which is there from the cleansing, auto accept

a life of subjugation police, which is all part of died or die. which is, which is genocide. this is the minute the all fine the i'm what you said wasn't able to get that by enough time. yeah. no, i on, you could sit down and look for any new position that was expressed as it's hopeless. i hope in a different way. i see that the reason of the people on both sides who could die together to find a way out of the situation. but to accept, i may have a principle which has application of international which day is occupation must end as an entity point to piece between both people. how like somebody is not, how likely is a day of that's very like you're a low voice and the very big will that this onto the body? well i, i just want, i, you know, i have this question many times, but i respond to that by asking the question, who,

who have never thought the gentleman's unfinished people with confidence in such a way. and they will be in union after having so many words. i think we have the promise, daniels, lives, jewish people are very much alike. we could build a field trip together to gather the van to continue to fight each other. and each of you, you, you wrote, you wrote in may last year that a great number of palestinians believe the only solution left is a single democratic state on the whole of what you quoted started palestine without occupation, a positive or discrimination. in other words, a one state solution where all citizens have equal rights of equal duties. what are the makes you think that something like that is even remotely possible? because in that situation, like we have to them on the land of historic, by this time we have about 7000000 jewish people about 7000000 postings to people

living on the same land. one site is powerful, the other site is weak. one site is i know to buyer to the other side as well to fight. what does the solution one of the reasons, the 1st one is to state solution which is the problem. the 2nd solution is one of the democratic states literally can live together equally and, or exist peacefully. the only option, because ethnic lindsay go 1st thing that's exactly what nothing. you know, i'm smart, but it's all i have to do. and that's what they try to do in government, but that will not work. so that's why we have one or 2 options. i had wanted to book it up and see why not. and as one of my best friends, daniel button boons, the musician told me once, sometimes the boss of it is easy of the difficult. and that's why i will never stop believing that one democratic states could be both of them. i know it looks now

impossible with all these feelings of revenge of vengeance, etc. but my view with you as a leader is somebody who hope to be, but other than be picking up the best very briefly cuz we're running out of time just literally what, what if you can't 5. the don't find the solution that you're looking for is october . the 7th is going to happen again, and i hope not. i don't think violence is the solution to any other violence. i think that the action items, it isn't of the people on smart have to be, but look, always look forward and setting up this past. and that's what i would continue to 2nd floor so that i would have people eventually be free. a lot of people would be accepted as because human beings, as we would have all the lights on top of which should be freedom on different stuff in faculty, thanks very much for being a complex. so thank you. thank you. the

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