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magic shields, preventing condemnation of as well as military responds at the united nations. at the same time, washington has called on israel formal duration, as it finds how mos on restated its opinions again and again that the future of peace settlement must include palestinian state. now that's been rejected outright by israel as prime minister benjamin netanyahu. god has in berlin and this is the day i as the . 2 most top security control is the old, the type of the 3 west of the jordan river. united states continues to believe that the best bible path, the, the only path is through a 2 state solution. there needs to be a political path forward for the establishment of a palestinian say, feel is here to stay solution and is ready. prime minister should be able to say no,
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even to our best friends. also coming up to us is the exploring ways to seize frozen russian assets to pay for the damage moscow is causing and it's war on ukraine to move in to 2024. 1 of the key tasks is redirecting the frozen assets of the russian federation in the west towards ukrainian recovery in the united states. the european union and other countries have come closer to resolving this issue. a welcome to the show. we begin with a war in gaza where israel is pressing on with his offensive and the territory itself of the rejecting calls from the united states to scale back in a televised address. prime minister benjamin netanyahu said israel would not stop fighting in gaza until it has destroyed homos, which is considered a tireless group by israel. the us and the you. that's the are also rejected coals
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by the us to facilitate a post full palestinian state. as the fighting and gaza rate is on israel's increasingly at odds with its closest ally, the warranty, gaza is still backed by the united states, but the intensity of operations has come under us. scrutiny of israel says it won't cave to american pressure. prime minister benjamin netanyahu stresses israel won't scale back and appear to reject the idea of creating a palestinian state. the whole in any arrangement. whether there was an accord or not. these ready states must have security control of old, which have a true west of the jordan river, is a necessary condition. but that cautious with the principal of palestinian sovereignty. it doesn't matter what can i say? i've told our american friends this truth. i've also stopped this,
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the attempt to impose a reality on those that would hom is where it was security and it's ready probably minister should be able to say no, even to our best friends know when necessary. yes, we, when possible. and we, what the us has reiterated palestinian statehood is the only past to lasting piece . this will be because we do believe that this conflict is all conflicts. the will end at some point and that there needs to be a political path forward for the establishment of a palestinian state. that is the only way, not just to answer the legitimate hopes, rings, aspirations of palestine, people. but it is also, and this is critical. the only way to provide the lasting security for the is really people. and it's not just the us trying to push the israeli government in a different direction until a vive. protestors accused the government of pursuing aggressive policies. while we as green people who are living the jewish people have the
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same people, many fear and out, right? rejection of palestinian statehood. now we're only worse and regional attentions and trap israel and, and less conflict in brand um is the director of the thing to time you raise your dw, caught up with him at the words of comic for him and doubles. and austin, while it was, he makes self and that y'all was rejection of a 2 state solution. i think that other, almost any other plausible leader of israel with the more in favor of a 2 state solution. but that doesn't mean that they would be more in favor of ending the war. and so getting to a 2 state solution is a different story. remember, since october 7th, the entire is rarely population has strongly wanted to remove a moss from the map and, and they, the immune, this is traumatized, the man, and a lot of the people that were killed and tortured and raped. i mean, these are some of the, they were at
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a dance festival. the raven is the most progressive part of his really, society is the people that most one of the 2 state solution and peace. now they're the ones that are going out and saying, we've got to destroy him, us. so, i mean, the war cabinet has enormous support in terms of the fighting, even though the prime minister is incredibly unpopular among these really people in they want them out. oh, how much you who is does the us have always read right now and how much pressure are they actually putting on it and yahoo changed course. there certainly putting pressure on israel to change course. they want israel up to accept the 2 state solution. they want israel and they haven't called for permanency spire, but they certainly have called for much more humanitarian aid to come in. it's certainly called for, for fewer civilians to get caught up in the mass that the israel, these are, you know, in, in the bombing campaign. and it's having no impact. and you know, by them doesn't like not. yeah. who doesn't trust them. you may remember that when uh, obama and biden were pushing the iranian nuclear deal to the jcp away. not yahoo flew
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to washington and gave a speech to congress publicly undermining bite and an obama. so, i mean, the relationship has very, very little trust to it. and even though by then went to israel right after october, 7th and publicly physically embraced the is really leadership. the fact is that his ability to really move whatnot. yeah. who is doing this very, very small. so what i really biden's options now as far as the conflict, there's concerned, well, i mean, in principle the americans could say that they're going to cut or condition military support on the basis of what these rallies do and don't do. i don't see that happening. i think especially in election year, he would get punished very heavily from the right from doing so who some of them were already saying he's too soft on israel and, and, and that's not true. but that's none. the less a dangerous thing for him. having said that,
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one thing that he can do is work more strongly with the gulf states to try to help ensure that there is support for security on the ground and gaza. that isn't the permanent is really occupation. and there's also funding to reconstruct a place for the palestinians to live because i mean nobody wants them to leave gaza, but they can't stay with the way gaza presently is. so what are you going to do? i mean, you can add, you can talk all you want about a 2 state solution, but unless you have the ability to live and defend yourself and govern yourselves business state. and what method does this send to the palestinians that while the palestinians have had no messages sent to them for decades, because they basically been ignored. people talk about a 2 state solution, but their land continues to be taken illegally in the west bank and talk about the 2 state solution, but palestinians in gaza, you know, live with nothing before october 7th. israel was in the strongest geo political
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position since is really independence and end of jake sullivan. 8 days before october 7th wrote a piece in foreign affairs where it said, hey, middle east is going great. you know, i mean we've never had to spend so little time on the middle east geostrategic like any kind of jinx that. right. but it was true that a lot of things were happening that were positive. you had the chinese brokering the around saudi relationship, the americans brokering the israel golf relationships you had up syria of going to the gcc and the cop. you had cut her with a better relationship with the em moratti's and the saudis, which had been broken before. the only problem is that everyone forgot the palestinians don't care. they just ignore them. they said, well, we can a piece in the middle east without the palestinians, while the palestinians tell you that you can't have peace of the middle east without the positive. that's what we're learning. moving to the ball in ukraine and now and a potential new source of funding for keith defense efforts. united states is
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reportedly looking into the possibility of seizing some sweet $100000000000.00 in frozen russian assets. they buy them, administration is exploring that idea as future us funding remains caught up in a domestic bunch of dispute. several weeks after these images announced rushes and vision of ukraine to the world. the us and the you retaliated by freezing around $300000000000.00 worth of russian state assets. but nearly 2 years on and with no end in sight to the war, washington and its allies. and now talking about taking the more radical step of not just freezing the russian assets, but confiscating them kids is keen for this to happen. to move in the 2020 for one of the key tasks is redirecting the frozen assets of
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the russian federation. the west towards ukrainian recovery in the united states. the european union and other countries have come closer to resolving this issue. so, but the ukranian president brought him is lensky has been pushing for this for a while as a way of punishing russia and also financing the will of it. it's a time when result seems to be fracturing in some places, will begin. ok. but most go say it's a us and its allies go ahead. it will respond by seizing west and assets and has already drawing out a list. a spokesman for the kremlin also said such a move would not just violate international law, but undermine of the nations by casting doubts in the in viability of property. the name of the general no such as the theory can be legal, it can only be pseudo legal, and most importantly, it will be a significant blow to the foundations of the international economy.
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but it's a walgreens on. suppose if this game, say seizing such a large sum of russian money could change the cost of the conflict by strengthening keeps position. not just any tools, but also on the battlefield. that's bringing the stuff to a fedex. he's an assistant professor of finance at all school of business at the university of california at berkeley. she's also a founding member of the n g o economists for ukraine. welcome back to the day i left us. yes. at the fight and government is now looking into seizing frozen assets and using it to compensate is ukraine directly for damages caused? what's different? a new about this plot. yeah, so the plan itself is not new. um, the discussions of seizing russian assets have been going on for months even to the past year. as economist, we've been recommending that course of action for
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a while. um, so really what is new starting to arrive at a consensus about how it can be done? um, so in a legal way, um that would both sees russian assets for you cransberg construction, but without jeopardizing other countries investments and there security and continuing to invest in the us and the g 7 countries. and the way that that is being discussed now is on through the new legal theory of culture, measures where it would be very clearly specified that this cesar regression as would be account remeasured in proportionality to rush as a question against ukraine. that would be basically used for future reparations that rush up with, oh, ukraine. after it's full scale invasion on this is sort of as a credit, was this future reparation. now, most of the $300000000000.00 of c's russian central bank assets are in europe, france, germany, and belgium. when most of the money is all skeptical though,
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as that seizing it would be legal. is this new plan going to convince? or that is the soap, and that is part of the reason that it's taken quite a while to arrive at a mechanism that would be suitable to all eventually the g 7 countries. so that they can act in unison in terms of seizing brushing houses. because as you point out, the bulk of those assets does say in europe, other members of the g stipend, for example, canada are fully on board. the production passed their legislation before seizing russian assets much earlier than the other countries. so yours is really the main one i'm but i think we should also not underestimate the role of the united states in here. so while the us holds a small portion of the frozen and brush and asked us to date, a lot of the arguments that can seizing russian assets. for example, the role of the dollar as the reserve currency, which depends a lot on on can the security investments in, in west, um that would impact the us quite
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a lot. so i think the us being willing to take the steps to lee on this, on obviously the russian assets, even if they don't hold the majority, that will send a really strong signal. and that would make your, to more comfortable to implement similar measures as well. now is this plan a products of the difficulties president biden has a in getting aid for ukraine through congress? not really. so as i mentioned, the discussions are really long standing. and even in the us, congress wrote it the, the re poll legislation that would allow the use president and sees the 1st impression assets. and that has been introduced back in the summer. so prior to the current pick ups and in congress, i'm say there's something that takes a while. so the timing is not that tied onto the current politics and congress that said the urgency. and of course, the, the public attention to salience of the plans have increased in the last couple of months with the congress. and now the people are still making money with frozen
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russian assets. the belgian company year, for example, has made about $3000000000.00 on frozen russian assets it holds. can you explain why that money, at least has not been made available to ukraine? yeah, that's a great question. um, so the money in question is basically interest earned on deposits. the russian deposits that are frozen in those things and the interest rates have gone up in the last year and a half. and so corresponding, we also the earnings on that money have gone up. now the money is much less to run. the russian government has specialist claims to that money that addresses the principle that initially deposit in the bank. so it's much easier to cease from that point of view on that side of course. rational, well still challenge that and companies that are holding that money there that are hurting that interest. do claim that they've incurred increased legal costs, increase management costs as a result of the russian government. still trying to lay some claims there. but that said, it is something that is more straightforward that we as the economists have been
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encouraging to do as a starting point. to start using the interest earned on russian frozen assets while we've worked out the framework for the rest for the principal of the assets. so i think that's something that will happen and may happen soon. again, it's still take some time to iron out legislatively on the portion that is most unencumbered. so the most straightforward um to use towards you credit is of course on the person earned by the governments to the taxes, the corporate taxes that the european governments are earnings from the revenues of the european base holding the assets. and those that are already on the put aside for you credit. so that's the very 1st step and interest next and, and present. so very briefly, in financial times, what's the future for ukraine? this western aid should dry up process fall pockets seem to be deeper financially and they also have more people to call upon to 5. yeah, so um i would like to start by just pointing out that the credit is more resilient
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than y'all can give it credit for. um, no, i guess on the economic front ever take the greenville that's. that's a great example. there was a lot of worry about russia pulling out of the un brokered grain deal. russia is definitely using that worry on our part as an attempt to blackmail that didn't succeed. and at the end of the day, you cranes unilateral black support or is actually exploring more grain then you can use were exporting under that un broker deal on so not right, things off as bright as we have the sometimes see that said your friends, friends is not limited russia, it actually has pretty steadfast allies of its own rocks. 3 and enough to be explicitly on china. what implicitly um, so if it were to be the case that you cringe allies completely abandoned it. and then i think really the question is going to be um, what is the plan be for the west? because what's the future of europe, if there is a stroke or
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a more aggressive pressure with all of its allies on still set up the path is supporting rushes contain, and new resources from ukraine, right on the border of europe. i'm so i think it's not just new price you sure that's in the dollars also say that the high school of business and economist for you. all right, thank you very much. i a thank you the to india. now a hindu is gathering for the opening of a new temple, but this temple was built on the side of an ancient moss. and that was tuned down by supporters of prime ministers and render motives hindu nationalist party. the w correspondence audio box has been to the northern city of a yard, yet to speak to both hindus and muslims. then the religious divide means the faithful on one side, celebrating while those on the other few left us the
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homes. and so can do, do these, make your way to the wrong template now you will get the city is brimming with excitement head office in operation. 6 you know. c the one is the good, feels like divinely. i'm ecstatic, unhappy, and feel like dancing. i feel like taking load rom in my arms and roaming around the place where in the somebody raises occasion for all hindus to come together. the construction of the room temple is the beginning of the hindu nation. it'll bring all hindus together, but in the selection, you're just mix up politics and religion is, was up of all the what town. the flags of the routing faulty selected a long side image of the candle drum. the messages this new temple is a gift from the holy fucking the pgp. yes,
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and the majority is grand gesture is matched by smaller local campaigns, local bgp problem, interior and loosing and spotty workers are busy cleaning all the temple grounds food. i'm the prime minister. multi is government to have, wants have done all the for you with the to 40 line. he explains, i got the every house the now your j is a temple and we need to believe in this year. the project is central to move these re election bid is this levels and can do so the majority in this country, it is their culture that will prevail and almost, and demolishing the mosque was the right thing to do on it brought to an end a debate tool that had been ongoing for 500 years. the site has been a source of pensions between those and muslims for decades. in 1992 and
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the fundamental is to down the 16th century, most known as the buffering must it be said. it was built by most of them rulers, on the ruins of the rump temple, which they believe to be the place of the candle guard. spock writing throughout the country, all, most of the people in the field, the 16 in white. in this, most of the neighborhood, people who witness those events still be at the most in scots, a kind of gone with fios the upcoming riley's around the knob ration clicked on one end of your bag. i'll see sometimes when you are deeply hurt, you know, and to speak, no cry. we've not come out of that situation about the pain and trauma of demolition. double fire. honestly speaking, there is no one to protect us or give justice to us. and this feeling has been there since december 1992 until today if even for hip hop on with outlook
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for the new warranties webcast that one is brutally cold. even in this celebration is a prose or not about politics. the lights up the city give out sweets and rejoice . events next week promised to be even grand, but with the temples to me under construction, could see movies, rusty, not with the temper, is calling about the upcoming election. the one of the battle lines being drawn in us politics at the moment is related to the l g. b to, to come in to libraries around the country on the pressure and not to lend books with eligibility to stories. some places rock shows are being banned, and lowes are being drafted. that would affect the lives of trends and non binary
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us citizens. and now a group of school children in wyoming found themselves codes up in this battle. as they tried to perform a play about bullying, roger evans has that story. these children spend weeks rehearsing the play did features a series of scenes about bullying, including wall on a bounce, a gay boy driven to suicide by his classmates. but just 24 hours before the performance, the school principal pulled the plug. so the principal said that the language was inappropriate. on he said that on the scene say nothing was promoting l g b t q, community. and that was not in the the values of pike county school district, the children got some notes of apology from the principal along with a $5.00 gift card as consolation. that didn't help. we all crow. that's okay. i was
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like they were trying to bribe us to feel better and not be not about the play. i was absolutely furious for us to work so hard and then, and then the school to just save in an actual know without any further notice was just it was awful. it's like being slapped in the face. were absolutely no reason for the young act as though it was very much a case of the show must go on and with the help of a local fits a group. they've now managed to stage their production and on the less well, i believe that it's important because a lot of people who are l g b to q usually are ridiculed and bullied. so it's important to realize that these people are important in our society. and that we should all just accept them for who they are in. well, i guess not be bullied or so from the school. cancel it. it's like saying that old
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you read it. you should not be included in the society which is really awful and cruel. i think when i so the school children won the bible in the end. but the bible over l g b t q writes in america, is far from over to uh, that's drops out long. so thoughts dates do follow uh same on social media as dw news, and if it's the latest headlines you are looking for as always, all websites on dw dot com for now come to the team of the day. thanks for spending part of your day with us, the
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