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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  January 23, 2024 4:30am-5:01am CET

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this is also crazy. the over $100.00 days of the war in gaza. according to the most controlled health authorities over 24000 palestinians have died as a result of the is really offensive. the majority of them women and children.
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israel took military action as a response to the terra tax carried out by have mos in israel. on october 7, 2023, approximately 1200 people were killed. most of them civilians, and over 230 people were abducted the guns as hostages of these really governments declared goal is to eliminate from us in the gaza strip. we asked a colleague who was already living in guns that before the war to document everyday life. there for us. mohammed ca flute is a reporter who works for deutsch avella. he himself has been displaced in the war repeatedly having to flee from the air strikes. he's been sending us both videos and voice messages since the war began. the connection, what we're experiencing today is the worst and most violent war we've ever had in gaza for civilians. and for us journalists of the
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the destruction and suffering raise the question of what the future might hold for guns, a and the region of variety of scenarios are being discussed. but are any realistic options? the sure major 3 months is really forces had been waging war and gaza. tens of thousands of bombs and missiles have struck the narrow coastal strip, which has been sealed off since the most terror attack on israel most invaded israel 3 months ago with a brutal atrocities of october 7th and in response we set 3 goals to destroy him. us to return all of the hostages and to make sure that the gaza can never again,
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pressing people is really society sees the attacks by him, us designated by many countries as a terrorist organization, as an existential thread. the shock from october 7th is still palpable. every day we hear new details. many times the feeling is that each new step worry is worse than the last. and then in addition to that, we have the war going on. and so every day there is, there are soldiers being killed, their families were bereaved. and those of us who were paying attention are also devastated by what's going on in gaza and knowing that this war is causing such apocalyptic damage and gaza, that everybody there is suffering. 2.3000000 people live in the guns, a strip. one of the most densely populated areas in the world. on october, 13th, 2023. these really defense forces issued a call for civilians to leave northern guns for the south. over a 1000000 people tried to flee to safety. among them were mohammed and his family.
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the transitional benefits and i left casa city and northern gauze after the is really army announced that these areas, we're now combat zones, and all residents there would be in danger in the end as well. and i had to move to the south of gaza with my father and my sister on the escape route from north to south was very dangerous. someone kind of put in a couple of them. there was non stop showing all of it in front of the thanks to god, i got there safely. in spite of all the dangers from the la on in front of the agent because they only settled so the mohammed would regularly send us footage. clearly showing the extent of these really bombardments mosley administrative health and guns that updated the rising official. death told every day nobody knew how many dead were still buried under the rubble. more and more people were mourning relatives. since i outcome with does house was destroyed. she and her baby son had been staying with relatives in hon. eunice. according to my 3 eldest children went
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downstairs in the yard and headphones. suddenly i felt the was flooding up around me. my husband crying and then sold and break apart like pieces of a jigsaw puzzle. i saw the light coming in through the crack up and we was sent flying to a yacht, lost consciousness during the attack. after waking up in hospital, she was told that her husband and 3 of her children had died. the contents my children, a dad seemed to be married for 7 years and i had 4 children in this time about 3 of them died. and while i have nothing to remind me of them, my husband is dead, but my children are dead. the house has gone on my phone with photos of them on it . what i had done, what i so whether or not as to what she does have at least one picture sent by friends on down is the only child she has left him a believe this heather,
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how the son was. i'm the only one left for him who we live in a state of fear, and then every night i sleep with him on my lap. so if i miss style strikes, it will hit us both, either will die together or survive together. he has no one except many of them, and i have no one except him. don't know what will happen to me if he dies. and if i die, who will bring him up. the large number of civilian fatalities has drawn international criticism. talking to deutsch develop, government spokesman, a long levy justified the actions of israeli forces. so if you could briefly introduce, we are seeing scenes of widespread destruction because how most spent the last 16 years deliberately redesigning garza city, escape in order to hide its military assets on the civilian areas. this is how most is truman shield strategy, but is defeating him off a realistic goal. a question that a growing number of israelis had been asking to the government an idea if they
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didn't know that the we, we live continue with the war, feels the collapse of our boss, regina, and the total destruction of combust spread and many other capabilities. but you cannot really achieve those goals if uh, if uh you will not be, you know, we go to the crown because, well, these really government has not yet said when, or whether it will be withdrawing its forces from guns. okay, so after the elimination of a mass, the gaza strip was demilitarize them. the under is really security control and no element in it. so either threatened us or teaches children to destroy us. that's what the thing is really troops had been stationed in concert since 1967, but withdrew in 2005 after how much to power israel imposed a partial blockade of the territory. is an imposing. does that have been
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siege, depriving people but on basic things. we didn't have clean water and guys suffer something with people. how did they say to only be 6 hours a day and the everything that's good got into goods or less? does it have to be controlled by isabel and we had a level of up to 70 percent of the population on the line of poverty and more than 80 percent of the younger do get to people who were unemployed. so is that it was, or people buying guys in a different way and now they want to sustain the military occupation. and so i've got to be a permanent military occupation of guys that would be rejected internationally. most importantly, by israel's most powerful ally, the united states. i made it clear to these relays, i think it's a big mistake for them to think they're gonna occupy casa tank. gosh, i don't think that works well is really ground troops advanced in northern gauze at the end of october, more and more palestinians sought refuge in the south,
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clean water and food soon became scarce and sanitary conditions intolerable. as a deliveries were reduced to a trickle. this effort to move force, palestinians to the south to keep them with minimal amounts of food and water, creating a desperation among palestinians so that you know more and more are going to die unless they get out and are able to access. um, you know, support from, uh, egypt is a man made a forest population transfer along in january 2020 for a fall right minister of netanyahu's government called outrage with his plan for casa, i me a call on the prime minister and the new foreign minister of the, this is an opportunity to orchestrate an immigration project and to encourage the
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migration of residents from gaza to the countries of the world i saw for some of the that is not, is there any government policy? we are a lively democracy with many ministers who have many opinions and those opinions do not reflect the policy if the state of is wrong. every day that the war continues, the sheer mass of bombs and missiles hitting the narrow coastal strip increases the prospect of guns that be coming uninhabitable. these explosives that have been used are in now on the ground so i out of the decimated buildings. are toxic made of toxic materials that's now part of the soil. it's degraded the environment and think that we don't even have any equipment left in gaza to remove and start to think about clearing this up. on october 20th mohammed and members of his family. first move to hon. eunice in southern gaza like
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hundreds of thousands of other palestinians. bad most with it. the after i arrived in southern gaza, i took my father and my sister to the red crescent building in the city of con eunice. and i went to the master hospital in the han units region. i'm off to be some of the complaint moon anyone's able, a ceasefire between israel and from us beginning on november 24th, enabled the exchange of hostages for palestinian prisoners negotiations. led to the release of around $100.00 hostages is really forces estimate that $136.00 are still being held in gaza. and there was growing impatience among ordinary israelis. there is pressure within is really society to reach another temporary spire in order to release hostages. but at the same time, you know, the majority of israelis are still supportive of the war. there is a bit of a contradiction there, but the cause of releasing the hostages is certainly the most unifying cause in
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israel right now. during the ceasefire, mohammed documented the situation in the refugee camps and han eunice. the war is taking a particularly high told on the children have gone to the beginning of the know the children fell asleep as soon as we arrived here. now they haven't slept for 2 weeks . they were so exhausted wine and i swear to god. yeah, they just lay down and went straight to sleep, having no more food. and then when they woke up, they had a little smile on their faces because there was no more noise from the artillery of the plains and i was for yeah, last minute that been as zigzag and no nightmare is that they die the next morning . they just imagined the children's greatest wish was of the sound of the drones and plains, with a stop one local initiative and on eunice aims to lift the children spirits. keep them on hey, how do we want to read the children who are being displeased from the north to the size of gaza with all these children have suffered so much under the is really your
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strength while i have a house in the palestinian working woman society for development is trying to alleviate the psychological burden and i'm, i'm happy that the come to come to see us who we come play because of the booms. when the towns came, we played with them and our friends, we don't split them and they gave us lots of toys. on december 1st, the ceasefire came to an end and the bombing resumed from both sides. in northern guns at the is really military continue to occupied further territory, reportedly destroying how much infrastructure, including parts of the extensive tunnel system. numerous amongst combatants were killed with many other palestinians arrested. in early december, mohammed sent us a series of pictures and a distressed text message, the,
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the 1st 7 people in the one photo he said for his brothers and cousins and it was the other florida. i was surprised to see a picture of my brothers and cousins circulating on the internet and the saudi on mobile home because i didn't know where exactly it was taking invite, but he and northern gaza. a eye witnesses that that'd be as really storm to the area and look and all the young men there and puerto arrested on that and most of the arrests were justified shortly afterwards by. it's really, government spokesman, a levy. are we talking about military age men who were discovered in areas that civilians was supposed to have evacuated weeks ago, we'd been calling for an evacuation of those how strong holds in order to locate the homeless, october 7th monsters with minimal home to civilians. now those individuals will be
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questioned and we will work out who indeed was a, how much terrorist and who is not. on the, on the hosting, of course, i asked my brothers cousins and uncles that they wanted to come to the south with us. but they refused and as opposed to home and they said there were dangers and strikes everywhere. and then everyone had to suffer their own faith and listening vehicle. initially before i had to yeah. in the 2nd half of december, the netanyahu government started bombing southern guns, a 2 with increasing intensity among the buildings hit was the nicer hospital in han, eunice, where our report of mohammed was stay. one of them on the news. i had to leave the natural hospital last night after it had been hit twice in the morning and of the evening for the whole thing in the building next to where i was sleeping came under attack as in the can't the way that the consumer of guns is $36.00 hospitals, only a handful or functioning and even then only
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a rudimentary capacity and largely without electricity or medicines. bombing hospitals is classified as a war crime unless they are being used for military purposes as israel and us intelligence claim to be the case. a most rejects the accusations. israel has been facing growing international criticism over its operations in gaza and become single, literally confined december 29th and even to south africa, filed an application at the international court of justice in the hague, asking it to investigate and alleged a violation of the genocide convention we think it is outrageous that pretoria has chosen to play advocates for the devil by covering up the crimes of the most rapist regime and giving it legal and political cover. and we have no doubt. but if there is justice in the world, the international courts of justice will throw out predatory as outrages, accusations, and make it very clear. it was how most that perpetrated an active genocide on
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october 7th, since january 11th, the judges in the hague have also been deliberating over a request by south africa to order an immediate end to the war. the genocide case itself could take years. even if the war were to end soon, sconces future is uncertain. there is as yet no strategy as to who should govern garza after the war. some have raised a potential option involving arab nations. is getting. there are various signals from out of the state, but they also see a rule for themselves in the future of gaza. and there's also a huge domestic pressure on the streets for them to take action on the positive stuff. they'll see the puzzle demand. so they kind of bring on the international forces in the world and put them on the boat this. we don't care about that, but they kind of have to bring other countries to do with us. would get them on people accept that france will join them or britain. but any other country,
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of course, not unpublished in years, does that have to have independence? does it have to have that i will fooling them so who should take political responsibility for the people have gone so in future? one possibility would be the palestinian authority, which governs in the west bank and is led by the internationally recognized president maxima, the boss housing authority does not have capacity to deal with the scale of what's taking place. and that is that it's already deemed illegitimate by the palestinians because it hasn't been able to deliver on basic services, but also on a, on a peace agreement that would see an end occupation. it is unable to take it without authority because it has deprived it from what it is. it is on no certainty under isn't a new patient. it's gonna come through with any area endorsed bank. and they can't even going through all the videos of the palestinian authority, which comes from the 1st thing in that space is it is also controlling that
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a moss has rules gone. so since the elections in 2006, 4 years, the group received millions of dollars and financial backing from costs are a connection that research by the new york times reveals, was not only tolerated, but actually supported by benjamin netanyahu. that's on yahoo had been advancing a policy of dividing a palestinian leadership strengthening, or at least tolerating some us allowing it to be supported with the tardy money in order to avoid reaching any sort of political resolution to the conflict they wanted from us to remain in place keep, it's the threat manage, but ensure that there was a divide in custody and leadership. but the question now is, what's to be done with home us they will not to be able to eliminate how much they come out of because how much does not just amended the destruction. and the question here, is there a possibility that's how may i ask would be part of the solution about the done
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part of the problems? the answer is yes. i know them what they would accept at least it solution if there was any of those states that there was a cause, a lively political debate about how we reached a secure peace with the palestinians. and if there's one thing that everyone in this debate can agree on, is that there is no room for the how must rapist regime off to this floor. because how must exist in order to oppose peace, how most doesn't want a 2 state solution. a must once a final solution. but 2 state solution has been under discussion for decades. it would involve the palestinian state consisting of the gaza strip and the west bank with east jerusalem is capital. but his release had been building settlements in the west bank for decades in violation of international law. you can't have 10 minutes and at least it solution doesn't to do it. step letters,
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i don't want to do controlling 60 percent of the way back and the is in this area. 60 percent of those spent by listing is i'm not allowed to bid us cool. i can do the garden a clinic house, nothing. netanyahu continues to reject the 2 state solution. so when you have a 9 prototype prevented the establishment of a palestinian state because today everybody understands what it could have meant. there seemed a little a palestinian state. and guys who do not everyone knew is what would have happened if we could potentially to, to international pressures and unable to state like that into the, in some media surrounding jerusalem and on the outskirts of television. so i'm going to but the while is riley's continued to face rocket attacks from guns and fear for the state of the abducted hostages. hundreds of people were dying every day and is really strikes on southern guns a to on january 7th. mohammed send us another video and
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a message. an attack by the israeli forces had killed most members of a well known palestinian family men, women, and children. with the sort of thing last night, a chalet belonging to the i'll now good family was attacked. does it happen with him? it was like many others that his family was forced to leave gaza city and moved to the south for what was the chalet was hit in australia with football. and so what i was there in the morning with other journalists, and then we found what happened to get in and how the family relatives and neighbors tried to pull the bodies out from under the rubble went as soon as she said, oh my dearest ones. i spoke to my mother in law and she asked why i left.
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i told you that i wanted to say good bye to my family and then come back and we have a travel permit. we wanted to escape this injustice. they were supposed to be leaving today. why are they doing this to us at our level? the girls died last night. i can't take it any more. the girls are going to move is going on level, my dear as to why not at certain? i know nobody asks about us or defense us as a 30000 people have being made monitors so far and we does know what's next. that hasn't been listed what none of the policies will compromise, and the people other ones paying the price. i remember the dentist who come to us to understand that we have still lies, but we're expecting to die any minute. and some of the rebuilding cause that after the end of the war and making it fit for people to live in again will be a colossal undertaking. there will have to be multiple actors involved to us. and
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we use the word international community to refer to rich western countries. i think there's will also be middle eastern countries involved. i think we should end the error of assuming that the international power brokers are only a small subset of powerful western countries. what we do now is that the era gulf states that usually are tapped to help rebuild guy. they have said, you know, this is not their responsibility because they have been putting the belt for this kind of destruction and on a lesser scale. but they've been paying for the rebuilding of guys a repeatedly festival. i think the responsible party for destroying does is it or not this must be held accountable for the 2nd. i think the rebuilding does that is possible with a very resilience people and i think is what it must be for us to be a compensation. sort of the unnecessary destruction that has caused. i'm the day
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off. the home us, the international community must ensure that garza is rebuilt peacefully and it's rebuilt in a way that it shows that concrete goes to people's houses and not into how most tara tunnels for our report him a homage every day poses danger. as he would see again on january 7th, after filming the on august families destroyed chalet. so bad most of us in the office. we after we finished filming, and i went back to the cool aid hospital and i know one more time again. and when i got there is i found out that the color of my colleagues had been targeted. the ones with just been filming the side of the explosion with me. or because i was surprised by the names of the dead among the journalists, sitting in that car with homes are enough to one son of alger zeros bureau chief
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and another colleague of mine who stuff to where i got algebra journalist who's writing in a call with a how most terrorist who was operating a drug in general, it is a bad idea to hitch rides with terrorist and inactive was on because you might get hurt. now i've seen that figure of the number of journalists who are killed and it's important that you take a close look at that list. because i counted over 20 people who are written as being how most affiliated media, according to the committee to protect journalists over 80 journalists, have been killed in the war to date. no one can say when the war and guns of will end the whereabouts of the remaining hostages are still unclear, as their relatives fear for their lives in gusts itself. people are dying every day and is really a tax. 1.9000000 palestinians are now displaced there. according to the world food
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program, over half the population is threatened by extreme or severe hunger. given the scale of the destruction, the mutual hatred and the immeasurable suffering. is there any hope of peace and gauze of reconciliation between israelis and palestinians that i never give up hope that um, that piece is possible. this is a definitely a dark time to be thinking about uh, you know, piece talks or some grand solution. uh, that will come, i mean, you don't make peace between 2 friends. its always 2 enemies, 2 opposing parties that make peace may be of the regeneration to generation. we will speak about any kind of coexistence, but nothing is coming to use these really military attacks or forcing people in gaza further south towards the border with egypt which is sealed off. mohammed is
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now there to a bad. it's just a moment. this is after everything we've seen and experienced, there is no future for gaza and then to hospice and the destruction is devastating . for the 1st time in my life, i also had to flee the displaced people i have been filming all have one wish for the war to end. so they can return to their homes in northern concepts on the landscape. with
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the business. the don't use a life from barely in the us and u. k. loans press strikes on who feet targets. and yemen is the 2nd major. we will find tax against the group by american and british forces will see they hits 8 stations including missile sites, also ahead. the possible breakthrough in the war in gaza. us media report suggests ease around his offering, how much the 2 month pause in the fights and rejects the entire groups conditions for releasing hostages. the.

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