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the evidence raised has done what really happened. starts january 27th on d, w. the farmer is blocking roads trains at a standstill, the worst performing major economy in the world last year. not to mention a 17000000000 the euro hole and it's, but just germany wants to. beacon of european fiscal stability is struggling to help us understand why i'm showing that. if i came in 1st, president of the full economic research institute on a close washer of the german economy most are fools. how did we get into this mass? i think it's a combination of factors of cost. the german economy was hit very hard by the

energy crisis by the fall out of the russian attack on ukraine. the country has managed to adjust to that more or less, but it has kept us in recession and ma with finding it difficult to get out of this recession and business related to a number of factors. one being bad of an intimate medium tom manor. some of our key industries are in a difficult transition. the car industry with electric mobility bind with high energy prices. the chemical industry is traveling. so it's a number of factors. some of them a whole may like high taxes more and more bureaucracy. and all these factors are a bit much now. and perhaps, unsurprisingly then a lot of people are feeling very discontent. the farmers are angry. rail workers are on strike again. our german wages too low is not what this is about. a german wages are rising at the moment. uh so wages as such are not relevant for

farmers but uh for uh, trained drivers. yes. but german wages are actually rising quite quickly. so in a way its surprising that this is not driving consumption and one explanation would be that people are not so confident about the future and save their incomes rather than consuming them. so that is one factor, and it's related to this question. yes, we have managed these short term crisis spots. so the what is lacking is a longer term perspective for returning to economic growth. that's what's lacking. i want to talk about some potential solutions a little bit later, but staying on that issue of workers, because one of germany's biggest problems right now is that it doesn't have enough of them. here is a charge. the eco institute produced, which shows the extent of that problem. you can see the breakdown of sectors of the top on the share of companies that say they are in need of work or is there mr.

foods? the skills shortage is one thing, but that of course comes on top of the fact that german society is aging very fast . what do you think needs to be done to stabilize the labor markets? one thing is that the workforce is aging and shrinking, and particularly in the coming years back to another factor is that if you look at i was walk, we see that, pardon all people go on pop time, walk and hear the good news is we can do something about it. so currently a social transfer and text system created strong incentives toward few hours, you know, just to pop time and by reforming. but we could get them all people again to work full time of calls there of the effect of child care doing multiple immigration. so there was a number of reforms that could help here. but just to clarify, are you saying then one of the biggest problems is german workers are working enough? correct?

if you look at individual work hours, they have decline significantly over the past year. we shouldn't forget, we have 46000000 people in the walk falls. that's a record at the same time, everybody's complaining about not finding enough employees. how come back be and all the answer is if we look at the walk, i was a, the number of walk i was hasn't really increase the number of employees. yes. but individual walk time has fallen very strongly and that explains why there is such a shortage of labor supply us. so if you are all of choice, how would you sell that to the electress. i think this is an easy sell. in fact, i would say we need to reform all tax and transfer system. so the people who work mall also have higher net income's current leave for a significant part of the population. it doesn't pay very much when people walk

them off because they lose social transfer. they pay very high taxes um, by reforming that we can generate more employment with out of great costs to the government. so i really think this is one of the few areas where we almost have a free lunch and we should eat that if it's free. well, there is the cost of a free lunch, but at the same time, there is a $17000000000.00 euro hole in germany's budget. i'm how are we going to fix us? while the government has decided to fix that through some, let's say budgetary maneuvers, but also increases in some taxes. and uh, i think what's behind that is a big a problem. and that is a lack of public and private investment in germany that has been around for some time. and i think to fix that, we need a major step. my preferred solution would be a,

a consensus with the opposition and an adjustment in the constitution that would, it would create a new investment fund for a longer period of time. so digitize ation the carbon isaiah and infrastructure. we need investments here and we should come up with some kind of a longer term plan to make sure that this investment happens. ideally, this should go along with cuts in public consumption spending about the part of that also has to be financed through debt. so in other words, an end to germany is debt break. you know, that's all i, we could preserve the debt break is a bit complicated. we can present the debt break, but create a special from the debt break leaves room fall that create a special fund of for these investments of the the hurdle is you'll need to to 3rd majority in the pol them on fall that i wouldn't dismiss. but that break the debt break has proved to be very useful because it falls is politician to really discuss

priorities and spending robin financing, everything and solving our conflicts through debt. so i think the debt break is successful. it just has this problem. but we now have some investment needs and the debt break says, yes, you can do that. you can go into debt, but you need to 3rd majority for that. i want to look at the prospective of employers now because the head of germany's employer is association came right this very week with a very strong statement. he said, we must be careful not to go from being the adage and also your opinion to a museum of prosperity. we, employers have lost trust in this government. our neighbors look at us with more concern than we do mr. full, your reactions, thoughts statement as well. i think partly this statement is justified, a bought only probably because it's a bit exaggerated. i think the government has managed the energy crisis quite well

. so fall so we have them pat costs and gas troll judges. and i think that should also be a knowledge, but i support this statement in the sense that yes, we do lack a convincing strategy for economic growth. and our government doesn't even have a consensus that it wants to have growth. so there are parts of the government saying no growth is not so important in general, we should focus more on climate change. and i think that's what the seriously misguided concept. so the government needs to get its act together and present a plan that allows us to deal with the challenges that have like a labor shortages. the carbonized ation, the problems with infrastructure. so this growth prime is lacking and mr. druggist said, we need to get to our act together and do something about it. and i think it's right in that regard. okay, well, let's talk about how to get our acts together. um, the country's economic power, germany has traditionally been in the ocean,

most of chemicals and engineering sectors. but these are all areas that are both energy intensive and they're also export reliance. so let's look at germany's ron king when it comes to innovation, because it is not exactly at the top of its game. as you can see here. it's training behind the likes of switzerland, sweden, the u. s. u k, and singapore. coming in as a right number, ace. over all mr. post, we're talking solutions here. what does germany need to do to become more innovative, more ready for the future? the hey, innovation is key indeed, and germany has been quite good at innovation, but it's more about what's called modern and innovation. so improving cause of them all getting better machinery and germany has struggled mall with the being successful in disruptive innovations. in new technologies, we need to do something about that well, so we need to invest more in

a research and development, but we also need to create better conditions. phone usually created companies. if you look at the number of and you would have created a company's, a germany is weaker, he a lot weaker than the us. everybody knows that. but also we could then the okay, so we need to create better conditions, fall of the creation of new companies that has to do with capital markets with the tech system and so on. and we also need to create better conditions for our existing companies to innovate in germany does have a lot of very successful industrial companies, even outside the automotive industry. the so called hidden tompkins, but they are held back by bureaucracy, a lot of bureaucracy by high taxes, the by a lack of qualified employees. and we need to do something about that and create better conditions for them. and if we do that, i think we'd also be better in the innovation. you mentioned earlier that parts of this german government are more interested in talking in climate change then and

promotion growth. i'm wondering, do you think those 2 things are possible to achieve at the same time and, and is that necessarily wrong to focus more on climate change than on economic growth? i think it's wrong to pitch one against the other. it's wrong to say we don't want to grow generally anymore. we want to focus on climate change. it would be correct to say yes, climate change needs efforts that will reduce growth or at least require some sacrifice in terms of consumption, but to be able to deal with that. we need mall growth more economic growth, not less. we need to be more effective. we need to have better why consent if we need to innovate mall and grow more about the grow and then environmentally friendly way? that's the message. i think it's seriously misleading to say, oh, let's forget about this focus on growth and focus. more on climate change and nobody will follow diamonds will follow europe if we go down that route and

nobody in the world would like that strategy. so we have to demonstrate that we kind of reconcile the climate change with economic success. we also have to be open about the fact that yes, some sacrifice in terms of consumption will be needed, but we need to show that. so it could all make success can be combined with climate protection. if we don't other countries, we'll say we focus on growth and forgot to climate them, that would be very bad. the cartridge categories for thought see what the,

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