of the treasure map for martin globetrotters discovers some of us regular bragging sites on youtube and also in the this week on the 77 percent street debate. and i did not get that scholarship. i looked at her that day. one said, you know more people's, more of your about to are trying to like delete them young, and that was why it must be this month. jude reach me that i on equal. i haven't tried. it is just for me, i know what i have. i try, i think, well that durations out what do you know about that? not transition agencies doing a lot route to go much. you saying you're doing nothing, the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent sweet debate this week. we are in lagos, nigeria, and would you believe me if i told you that this country has over 300 ethnic groups?

that's crazy to think about. and with that comes of a 500 languages, making this one of the most diverse countries in the world. but that's a bus that because sometimes gets in its own way, resulting to tribalism. and the question today is kind of this country overcoming and what can the older folk learn from the younger people who better to ask the fellow nigeria and thank you all for joining us. but before we begin, i'd like to ask a general question. how many of you here have experienced tribalism, directly or indirectly? let me see if i show hands in directly and directly. okay, so quite a fair amount of you. let's start with you and me. what was that experience like if you don't mind sharing, it was very uncomfortable because essentially we are such a huge nation and we have so many languages. so hearing that you cannot have an opportunity to do something because to your, from the minority tribal from a chart, but it's not central. what's actually very uncomfortable. so was this something

that happened where you were denied a service or you, what do you like? what give us a few more details. okay. so the situation was, um, i was in the relationship with someone and i was not allowed to marry this person because he was from one of the truck. so it was kind of, you know, uncomfortable, you was back and forth between families. what you don't know this person, i know him. so it's about the people know about where they're from, what the people are like, or what the people have done, etc, etc. okay, so we've been raised his hand. yeah. and he's actually a historian. so before we continue with people's personal experiences, just take us back a little bit. where does the idea of tribalism begin to and they do. others, they show up tribalism the games. meet the pre colonial period. okay. as long as you may show, nigeria is home to a multiple ethnic groups. so people exist at the different ethnic levels. and then we had the colonial period. okay. and where the, the, the, clearly, almost as i'm in use use the, the issue all try by using, okay, to rule the country forward, you have benefits, okay. and then we have the post independence period as

a postcolonial period. that's where we had the, the codes and then we had the codes that caused. and then of course, you know, the 1st cool was that there are different positions that it was a selective because i think be cool because of the selective targets. okay, of those that were involved, but they're also opposing arguments against that. well, of course that's, that's, that's the history. that's how you came down. i mean, the program that followed up to just to conclude it was, i am because i've looked at the 1st 2. i mean, lots of people from the eastern extraction we're guilty with with, with that. okay. and that was quite a problem on that has that has formed part of the whole fabric on the whole system of nigeria as a country. yeah. so a very doc and sometimes violent history because of tribalism. thank you to. so he started cutting, we used to do in fights in the low. it's pretty cool now period. there's a lot of new fighting amongst your bus inside your local themselves,

your browser as a tub while you try it. it's right to help the butte for the house has to. it is the same thing. they used to always buy. it's almost themselves and the boys, especially the boys, but the boys they will have you say that you, well, my guess is i'm on the ball. i'm flying a black. that simply means that people has looking, you know, says they have no central authority. the address tom was listed to the town or the top, and you always buy 2 for one town to do or the. so you raise a very important point to, oh, i really loved the enthusiasm here, but i have to send to buck the debate for a 2nd. looking around the juliet today, i mean i can't distinguish between unable i your bought a house. so how does money fest in contemporary ne julian life? the other day i was online and then someone you know, says that the euro bought the euro, but try like, foamed or made. you know, the wood, which is the 3rd biggest movie industry and well as people were saying, oh no, this one was struggling. is the evil was on the system said, no, it's a how is this? and i was just thinking about something, i'm like,

why do we have to bring the, the, the whole nature of try into this conversation. i'm from a minority fact. we don't even make noise. what does it mean that i'm less balance at? no right now. and also show me that you can see people insulting themselves. people trying jobs. i do show that when like i ask, where is humanity? yeah. okay. so you as a very important question, why that needs to identify along tribal lines and not just as they do as molly would as after beads. let's ask henry here because he works for a national agency of orientation, which is basically supposed to unites nigerians. there's nothing intrinsically wrong with identifying with your tribe is the so where does the child is coming? just i was gonna say, um, a lot of things on up and also show me that that's bringing a bunch of memories that i'd be here. go back to our bodies and back into us. ok, let me talk to somebody who knows a little bit about social media, some of who's the digital strategies. so does this imply that it's young people because they're the ones who are majority of social media, who have been heavy to this disease of tribalism. the major has about what's to be

under the ethnic groups, $500.00 languages. if you put people of different needs in the same place is bound to be a disagreement, right? i think the just generally natural that those, these would happen. the young people let you know for oh, you said these like those people, people, the, you're about people and it's, it's what they knew on what i think is it, what is there a differential? there should be similarities, right? and the younger people don't really care about the differentiates. if you ask everybody, we don't really care, right? the younger people have their own cultural, don't the least these things, you know, and i think this, we try at the end of the day. okay, so i'm hearing here, i'm going to come to you just a 2nd. i'm hearing a little. we're really not try believes we don't care what tribe you come from. and yet you're telling me that in your politics, sometimes even in your relationships tribalism is sleeping through why is that? let me hear from someone at the back here. i would like to touch on the aspects of culture. i think the culture is meant uniform, that mentally to integrates us as the people and the fact that he behaves he's

maybe equal and i'm your about or he's how is that it doesn't change the idea and the fact that there is an aspect of individuality and everybody, so when i say that because if i have, if i have a bad attitude, for example, when i say that it is been night during that made me have a but i think, you know, it is me. it's as you are. yeah. maybe. but i will, i didn't think that the training that my parents gave me, maybe i didn't listen to them very well when i was growing up. that is what make me happy about aptitude. okay. okay. yes, i do. and because you mentioned that you find, you know, you want to say something, but i want to come to it gets you cool for a 2nd here. because we are hearing about the values of a sometimes of pride to you as part of your culture and your identity. fantastic. but isn't there room for national values for a night jury and i just, for someone like me comes, are you not you? i don't have the the, the loves we will be new, ty, buddies, i know the reason why say this is because 1st you by twice i'm delta and by what we do, i'm going to buy by breast and i said i zation am how so by my reach,

i know epic by my time out of condition. so i see. so how do you, how do i find myself and it's kind of what you're doing. so how do i, how do i, you know, become, sorry about these things. so i think it's, it has a lot to do with the individual. i press when i, when i hear people see i'm especially excited to mind before the 9 julian, i say something which is the height of social. you need to be a human before. busy you belong to, we try now you hear the houses call you the evil is the, i mean, you know, the, what do you, how many actually came from the tim movie? which means give me what's out when you try to get, try to tell someone that the, the, the a black people are you calling them up. but you also have you saw with my friends or your friends about pressing. so you see, if you, when you point to think of someone so much is going to not you let me hear from deville a for a 2nd t a. by the way, i loved the quite a that's happening in the background. yeah, yeah. yeah. so the few things that he said, and i want to give you a chance to, i just want to build on what you said, lack of these men,

what are you called me? was a, it's something the money to is us logan and in the civil. so you notice the way he's 3 used to affects us. so this new generation of, let's see, all of us that the don'ts see that us office. so but um, when, when history's been taught to them, that's when do now recall that school. so this is what this means. so advocates in history from the equality for them done by the den presidents what he said, well that's the one to which is a 2 way. it's in the bronx and i'd be too soon of use to be from the sea level. it's just to kick off this, well, see what i think in the try bodies, the uploads to this it way from the new edge and it is on, well it's, it's done. it has its pros and cons. let me go from it's on you for a 2nd because you've been wanting to speak for a while and i want to find out from you is that this disconnect between the young generation and the older generation. the older generation being the ones went

through the civil war. we really know about this cause of tribalism. yeah. so the, the big disconnects, i see that the very or whenever people kindly during the election, these parts electronics, it was very, very of us very clear. where daddy the oh, that was the kind of like, relax, um, do you want to put too much pressure? they just comfortable where the way you get it. it's almost like the very subdued you gotta do your was going to move forward. you see what i things on social media . how old are quantities i'm moving forward. periods on everything. i do want that i was helping you, we have all the resources, you have everything while we still hear you get the whole and testing showed how you need see is that you need is very, very read 90. most of the younger generation, the most name, pre id. um to get you, christine, got it outside the senior, decreasing type range, use them. got everywhere. you guys. so it was this, it was very, very beautiful for me to see 2 weaknesses you get. so i think uh well that generations are holding those box because of the, the things that happened to the breaches came and divided everywhere and,

and did not say using that as the system is the one they put it on the system because he's not visible is that what you, what you hear about us, i read this on agency. i think we should need to, we need to be very, very black and white. the bulky very on this. if you ever wanted to see things, you read the and then be able to pointed out you. good. so let me get some practical examples. anyone here who has perez, who a very try, believes and it makes you uncomfortable. anyone of whose parents hold views that you are like i, i am, i'm a anyway my that used to tell me at the time that you no matter for me practice. lot try. that'd be gone to what that why? i box them several times. you will not, and some of you just bear with me. please don't go embody from. that's right. i know fortunately for you when i go to my close friends obviously be from the from the try. so let me ask emmy, because you started us off with the story about marriage. what is a big deal in marrying outside of your community?

according to the people who are against. okay, so i'm from bios that states and essentially my people are turned in my lawyer to try because we don't make up, you know, a large number of the people, the main syria. we have small tribes. so my re, somebody from much, i've been just, you know, continue the line is continue the culture, continue with that. that's what they're going to risk marrying your cousin. you feel such a small try? it's actually helpful. yeah. so yes it does happen on i don't think it's frowns on, it's just not too close to home. but i think after which i would say that that more has been work. how not because of what they did was because the 2 of us agreed much would be that we should not continue to eviction, should what they wanted was just so that i tried to continue. and i think that personally, i fear my in the coming years if we could see me on my re like that, like that, like that maybe we might not have by on the okay. let me hear from the general manager. all right. um i will start with these,

i was frozen up or down before i became a nigeria and i was an engineer. and before i became a new board, pressing i work with most of the people from the north. i'm from the west view and has done it when i, when i go back to up with you, i did the job, i'm supposed to resume from somebody who's on the notes. so my presentation, friends having to work with these different kind of people makes me want to know more about the culture really joins. i've tried this one, i never had. i've seen whenever i come across so important there shouldn't be died dogs evening. doctor eyeball is the, you know, it doesn't make sense. younger generations, we need to put our heads together, get, go back to history, make research and you know, see how we can push to get on. i'm making energy at work. ok. so i just want somebody to clarify something for me because it seems that the issue of i believes in comes up when it's intimate relationships, right? so not my rage. what about business? what about politics? us let me hear what somebody who wants to respond to our weakness and have values and what else to let me check on the school. a friend of mine who was my name sick,

but he wasn't fault. it was the delta able who and the phone, the closing $9.00 across the 9 to and you got to think about marketing. you've been engineering engineering to go through that. didn't get that question and it'd be that way through different places. i say hearing that because i'm from delta. yeah, i mean across the 9 job i'd be more number under as my quotes on my cost to be hired on the 2nd level. so to pay to god's lives on the, on the road. i am from the north on 5 on every gets into school and you don't get into my studying get this is really imagined i okay, is happening on the secondary level, adult level, educational and imagine wasn't not politics business every other thing. so i think national registry in jersey, they have no, i don't think they've address all these issues. well, here is the national orientation agent. okay, what i will tell you that i'm not trying to show you just is doing a lot where to go from what she's saying you're doing nothing. that's what i'm about to tell you. well, the only government suggest apart from security, jesse, that's a suppressed sense in all the someone that says the for the government. so we are

programs out of sets in place to address tie buddies. and one of them is beauty before the government also outputs measures in place studies some government that just went to this for the collector commission. you mentioned that time that you saw a pass by, by the name of the operating embodied use, entire initial. she's interesting such a hassle. not, not only that, it doesn't pull you up with this. it doesn't really happen. and probably this is the opposite. gomez, 2nd. well, goodness as much as that, and that's a government addressing place to where i showed that to the source. these are quote to you i one of them is for is that correct? okay, okay. i think we should do. i need to bring a little bit of history to that, so we should, we should lose sight of what tribes, by the way, let's just clarify that for a 2nd, because i only have, like, you have the what try in relation to africa. when we go to the northern hemisphere, they're referred to as ethnic groups. what's the issue? why? well, i think the, that's, that shouldn't be a problem. i think we should focus on what tried these as

a word i didn't say about being it is, it is group identity. the problem is try bodies and which is the behavior. okay, try it is a basic human instinct. is it best to just lay a whole guy just like um, i'll be tied for these off with that. okay, that's what's how human survived increasing seems to be like visual era. they have to come together. okay, so that's colorado. that's rate move from pre era to more than say that we, i know there's a tendency to find co thoughts in your community. okay. there's a tendency to find refuge in your community where you can identify with people. i think what we have to do is to report post that. okay, do i find safety, indiana, right? do i find safety intimate coming from euro by coming from people that say yeah, let me just wait, you know, just, just she wanted see, when do you mind? if she comes into the picture, you don't have to worry whether or not you will find safety in the hands of a. how is that person or you will because kindness is supposed to be a universal think given that yeah. how is that your about your people?

it should not be a problem. i told i think that from the outside what i don't see us as the sales rep nigerians. and i think that we should carry ourselves in that one accord as one people because it uses when i see you in school, i don't ask you what, what, what they do come from. oh my, my jerome brother, when i see in america, when i do, when i see and gone out, when i do and uh, hold on, let me get victor chance. he hasn't spoken. okay. yeah, um, well n y, c, think national, you'd save this quote called the 1st time i came to the west illegals. and from that states before somebody gives legos in the come, how do we fit them? yes. house. ok. but because it was, we knew new west the south thing that anyone as from that we don't use those to natalie. how sort of experience um, try bodies in industrial and i've seen a good thing. so it was, it was very rare to me because it was supposed to like you mentioned mangee and bring us to get off what you've been via. you have people that being said by the 6 . so you definitely also need to given us a menu as individuals and to go back and re learn orlando i really interesting. so

yeah, what i would like us to take notes of 2 things. now there is a particular time in the meet you were calling to implement, easy, not you probably move, i mean, cruise things like mostly i will expect the protestant going to jump, don't wait and it still good. now i don't want us to be totally on watts, for the most part done, plus my job is the $32.00 model. so let's say that you split up national melodies, and that's the way for if i see my step, i've been my dream. you see or fit as we might do. now we're up. oh, these people must somebody the usual try bodies in the i don't drug drug. thank you . so before, but before we move on to how exactly does government use tribalism to manipulate the, let's start with how let's start to talk. i don't think the government plays a role in this. i think it is us. mix up the government, individuals who mix up the system, we're complaining about individuals. so this people, your, me, you from one of the city takes one person to change this situation. you get your

boss come in by boosting this. you not, you're not the most efficient. you might, as the nation will be united, if i don't see they've got 0, but i don't see them down people. i don't see how would you mind what because we're expecting government is the government. i think we should just stop saying that it's on knowing. we have failed to mention to other very big institutions that play parts into our bodies, and that's our family and religion and the ink when so vital, using goods on principles into, you know, you go and then from your family, you're moving to school and then from school while you're in school, you'll also pop over religion like, you know, and i don't want to go to what we agree on. we know that until this all that institutions sick the issue of try bodies and cereals beyond the price around find a way to make sure that it is curtailed, even the government will trying to do guy porting what time to be a basket. now let me tell you, one thing i traveled on then was phone was telling me, oh, are you from? i said, well, i mean i do and always states i said plus you boss. oh, if the i able, i said, i'm most people on this month, a jude with me, that i am able. i have a try. it is just my know what i have,

i tried is actually very insulting to just got like he said, because he's from a black to say this like he's how's that it's still on there. so this thing is i think i wish it was also play a good spot. we should learn and know that he was even all see about older. yeah, yeah. even some of you, you'd like to know the 593 i bought from you both the most that nebraska you don't know. i'm a state, i think what you all educate ourselves very well so that we know we took it to that we respect. all right, let me come to to you. so you see, i just, i said something and we just wait for yeah, right now. now she was offended because she's going across the bus, the dentist said she was able, it's any craving any wilkerson actually does. okay. hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on with it. i'm going to hold on. i'm going somewhere with them. and i know i know i'm going some way you, you do you, you got to be upset because you're trying to beat them on this. done that. yeah. a lot of times outside 2 major types. right? no, that's is detail, but i don't see the reason why you should be upset because you're going to hold on . let me see. no, it was all you say your name is adams?

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you kinda like like that. no. okay, okay. okay. okay, hold on. before we start throwing hands, let's, let's, let's take a deep breath. make your point. okay? so the thing is you're supposed to be upset, that's what it's me speaking do identity, right? i do educate them. okay, i got you cool. let me, let me, let, let me, let me through the question back out to you, because it's, it's similarly to when you travel outside of the continent. and you say united julian and you're introduced to a canyon and you told, well, you all africans, there's something about erasing your identity. and i think that's the point that she was trying to me. let's hear from you victor, is i just want to say that i was, or what is the same to you just said it's, it's not about, you know, findig xbox. you, i didn't, i didn't see that. why you were you uh like, my, like my this is being shipped to, i don't like, i want to be called in a while. yeah. not because i'm not because just because the 2nd place to go to in our lives, it's to re label. uh, let me give drill a chance,

please let me take was bucks with the jump issue? like my boat. i pointed out that um some that does uh, elected to sidelines some people from some ethnic groups. and they tried politically. if you do got to the whole thing because that is not true. yeah. changes as throughout the data to make sure that you have the presence of so so, so thrive and so, so please, because the federal commission has an ok that's a shows that everyone is when represented in every government agency and product starts up so. so yes, that, that's what appears to be what, that's not what it is, because then deluca, i would say something that i'm going to be to. i applied for a scholarship and i got a phone call. they asked me, what are you from? your name is this that you apply for them like yes, yes, but where are you from? and i said by also states and it was like ok, thank you. i'm like is that it's and i did not get that scholarship. i looked at her that didn't want to, you know more people's more of your back to where trying to like really badly. and

that was why it must, it's so much fun if it's not because they want to use it and mix it bottle and see if it costs they want to take you. okay. okay, so while i really, i'm seriously enjoying being susie, as involved this debate, we really need to come to a rough up and talk about some solutions. we'll see how tribalism is affecting us in different ways. how do we still, how do we still, i think, just like everything will be same individually thing. let's all see ourselves as individuals. let's all see ourselves as people next, i'll see you as well as humans. before we start looking at dr. i'm from here, i'm from day that is the 1st place to start from the i believe dots, spirits of national, all these in should be higher over out governments. how's the pots to please really just need us to be possible to play as well as the additional lead us does the weight. okay, in addition to be in a humane and kind, which is very, very important. we all, i, i will still keep hammering on education because if you're a well educated need, you know, like if you have steps and information,

you will not be as close to things that i know supposed to be misconstrued. i think we have a lot of work to do in our rural communities. the closest we happen, i the area. so the message needs to be driven down to those levels. okay. fine. you . yeah. so i think is 2 boys down to the government. the government is up to really be presenting. what is those 3 present people respect on and follow the spam he did do our present very well. everybody does the same. ok. wherever they talk about, try bodies. him on the negative side is actually you come from sophie's interest. let me tell you what tripe is all about. and i do recall there is this particular notes for the notes is actually, um, is actually run in the west. but it's in the north and celebrated in the east. so this is what drives in major. oh, i love go. okay. so on that note, i've got to ask you all for a small favor, because i know you're drawn from different tribes. i want you guys to show a little bit shared with our global audience,

something unique about your cultural background. what i don't know, everyone who's that or before line is regarding that milk and also the ingredients that used to be paid. it is loved all over the world. what yahoo, a delta and the depth, you will tell people know it is this the tire that's called up, which is a beautiful that's why it is white. so it picks it up to a piece and you need to. yeah, let me hear about you and it's home. so the bread, this is in the country. i mean it's, you can do it goes up. all right, so the name to god bless the vision, dental we have very diverse beautiful cultures and you have the best where there names. yeah. all right, so i'll come in here and go to of neutral. now there is a very beautiful place. so do not take what you see on social media, please visit nigeria and angela is a very beautiful place. so at the beginning of this debate, i ask a simple question. is it possible for the young generation to, to use the older generation on how to of a come try but isn't. i think all of you here have shown resoundingly that the

answer is a definite. yes. i have never felt so good up to discussing something. so tenuous, thank you all for watching the the

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