the, the, this is dw news live from berlin, 3 us troops killed and a drone attack in the middle leads president joe biden, blaine's militants, backed by a ron for the strike on a military base near the border between jordan and syria. and this valley for tally ation, more countries suspense funding. so the u. n. agency for palestinian refugees. as israel alleges several staff members took part in the last october 7th attacks and anger in russia over the war and ukraine, wives and mothers, the front line troops call for an end to the fighting, and the return of their loved ones. the

sarah kelly. welcome to the program. the united states says that there will be a very consequential response to a drone attack which killed 3 of its troops in jordan. thousands more were wounded in the strikes. us officials say that the aircraft hit a military outpost near the border with syria. it is the 1st time that a stripe has killed american soldiers in the region since the start of the israel. him off for president joe biden has blamed militants backed by a ron for the attack. ron denies being involved a good while. i'm all of my government, the resistance groups in the region do not take orders from these limit for public to the wrong. with regard to that decision making all actions, water rolling does not welcome the development of conflict in the region. most of it does not interfere with the resistance groups,

decisions on how to support the part of city a nation or defend themselves, and that people against any aggression, well occupation. the whole lot seen that daughter and i spoke earlier with literally saddle this, daniel garrett, last editor in chief of the magazines. and that's which focuses on the error of and he is la mac world. we discussed the strikes potential for escalation and whether or wrong may be helping to orchestrate strikes by iranian linked groups as well. i think uh iran is involved in structuring and motivating this uh, a lions this plus the rough militias. mostly she, uh, oriented militias in the region 5, i think, uh, these groups also work at their own behest and have their own time table. and i think that is also the plausible deniability for the radians is also essential here . so this is more, it's a financial, it is a logistic, it's an ideological support. but as we have seen in the past,

i don't not think that iran is coordinating every individual strikes. it is not in the strategic dissertation. interest of the rain is to do that and they see how that these groups and these militias also operates independently, but it's actually contribute to the overall deterrents of the monitor the region. however, what happened now is the beginning of 3 a us service members, which probably did not go according to plan because before these munitions made actually show that they would inflict harm and that they would provoke the americans. but make sure that they wouldn't cross a certain red line. and the killing of us servicemen is certainly a red line that the americans need to respond. and that's uh, that puts also the wrong spot. and now there are reports that are run back to fighters in east syria, have started evacuating their post in anticipation of a us counter strike. do you expect washington to launch airstrikes there? what sort of us response could be to pay that as well?

you know, the, the, the, the, the fighting, the shuttle wall that is going on between uh, figured out it states and its outlaw eyes and the, so the round back. but it shows in the region is very complex and it's happening on made on, on various phones that happens in syria and the syrian jordanian border of specifically that triangle sort of bond between the rock, syria and jordan happens in iraq. and in other places i've just returned from baghdad and last week they, while i was in back, that there was a us strike on a she, a militia group se backed out in a place called joseph, sort of, which killed several ledge administer a man. and i think this attack could be seen as a response to that you as a tech, which itself was a response to an attack on the, on the as a base in uh, in an iraq. so this conflict escalates on various phones and various countries. and it's very difficult for the respective governments of these congress to stay out of it. they don't want to be drawn into this, certainly not iraq,

certainly not jordan, but we have seen a number of board incidents. and it's, it's so far, it seems like most of the stuff, most of the fighting is happening in syria itself and see you're in territory. but it can happen elsewhere too, as we see. and it's interesting because we've seen since mazda is terror attacks on october 7th, and israel's responsive guys with the vast majority of world leaders and diplomats have stressed the importance of preventing a wider regional escalation. as you've highlighted there, would you say that this has been a failure? are the stakes being made as a lot of mistakes are being made? but um, but the fact that you want to prevent a major regional escalation doesn't mean that, that you would not act in self defense or in response to, to some of those attacks of the logic is on the one at all sides. one to prevent a major regional escalation. on the other hand, they do tit for tat whenever they being attacked, they want to strike back and these like retribution strikes the major home can happen and this can lead to another escalation. so whereas many bodies in the

region, not all of them by the way, want to avoid the regional escalation, the regional escalation is happening and this is unfortunately the logic of deterrence and of retribution, sion that we have been seeing for a long time for america and the rom, this can result in a major problem because at one point they would either have to engage and really meaningful diplomatic negotiations. how to prevent this from happening. or we would see this being taken to another level. so you mentioned the multiple strikes and responses and i'd like to know how you see the strike now in jordan. does this drones strike me and another front has now opened off in the already volatile miller middle east, or do you expect this? could potentially be a one off that can be contained. so the, the front already exists and the not with regard to jordan, but mainly with regard to syria until iraq with these malicious operate. in the case of a rock against the will of the government in the case of syria, with a certain consent and support of the government. but this place where the strike

happens is a strategically very important place. it's in the eastern body, i like this, the southern desert of syria, as i mentioned before, triangle bay for between iraq, jordan and syria, and the americans had been there initially to fight atlantic states militants, so called dies from this area, and it's become some sort of a no man's land because the americans are there, and of course nobody should move any closer to the base without taking the risk of being attacked. then you have these groups that are saying that fighting american occupation of syrian territory. and i said it's a no man's land with many refugees. people that are being left alone with little to no human to terry and support, but nobody wants to move out of this region either. so i don't think it's a new front. i think it's it, but it's in it's, it's in strategically important place that one sort of, you know, be careful to contain some really important context there, middle east expert daniel guy. last, thank you so much for that analysis and sharing your expertise. we appreciate it.

thank you. meantime is rarely negotiator say the talks in paris to secure the release of hostages in return for an extended cease fire and gaza were quote constructed. but the office of prime minister benjamin netanyahu says significant gaps remain between the 2 sides. protesters and israel have been ramping up pressure on the government to bring home the rest of the hostages egypt guitar. and as we all are all taking part in the us led talks now of been will bark, alto, honey, is the former, could tarry defense. i to shave to the united states, and i asked him how optimistic he is about these latest negotiations in paris for a while, i'm quite optimistic that the any progress towards negotiation would be successful . however, all parties involved have to commit to the process. it's hard process, so long process we're committing to that process is vital for discrete. and we know

that the c i a chief william burns met with his as rarely and as an education counter parts, as well as guitars, prime minister, and they are supposed to meet again this week. tell us a little bit more about the mix of participants and what might be going on behind closed doors. what obviously, from a consulting perspective, these made it very clear that the, the place very close to the vest secrecy is important in any negotiation for success. however, if we see past negotiations, you know this conflict as a guide, it usually means that it starts off with lean ground rules. understanding of the parameters of negotiation, moving forward to setting reasonable goals and then executing routes and while that is being executed. as in part of last job is negotiations and the control, the foreign ministry had an option to set up to make sure that if there's any snag

or issue in implementing negotiated agreements, that it would we be resolved in real time. i think that would usually be the same motor software on guard moving forward. now, details about the negotiation. obviously isn't clear right now, but hopefully this past results on any proof of future hopes than were very helpful . what do you see as the main hurdles now, especially, you know, given the role that guitar has played in facilitating the israel gauze or piece talks given it's channel of communications with a mouse as well. the main hurdle, as i said, is committed. now we've seen some issues internally and israel of the neo conservative government of nothing y'all has been on one side asking for guitar is health and wanting it to me, praising it. i'm on the other side criticizing, and that is not help to moving forward. now the later statement to i would say about, on the part of the boss by the part of the law says, commitment. well,

well the, the proof is in the pudding bought has proven that it is able to negotiate the release of hostages. this is not finding the sky or imaginary, or feel like the coalition this have see natural results. it's only replicating those successes that we're talking about right now. and i think of everyone's committed. and again, the prime minister of this guy's office, just less than 12 hours ago, said that is, it is quote unquote, constructive as it's going forward. i think that makes us hopeful, but steadfastness and commitment by the parties. the negotiators, not only because she does the policies, whether it's available most have to be said, trust and got commitment, and that's only will guarantee a successful negotiation. thank you so much for your time. and all of us as a tiny defense and foreign affairs analyst and former kentoria director of defense intelligence operations. we appreciate that. now japan is a spending funding for the u. n. agency for palestinian refugees. it joins

a growing list of donors, including the us, germany and britain that have stopped payments since is real acute, some staff of being involved in the home off october 7th attacks the u. n. is urging governments to keep funding the agency with gaza on the brink of famine, the ross, a condo, so one of gulls as last lifelines so many here. these blue and white bags of flour, a rule that stand between them and install evasion. but with more and more of the agencies don't, is cutting off that funding. people here in the southern city of rafa. the other west told me in the stopping moonrise, 8 distribution is a catastrophe in the gaza strip. of like is it was a handout uh main supports and if they still there will be a famine like the one that didn't know that color is going to be much as i'm a part of the summer when i can isn't what kind of move on the ross don't helping

us then i'll people will face death a minute, 5 minutes, ros helping on people who are hungry and suffering. if they stop him, we'll have no one on our side other than go to the details of these really allegations against monroe stuff. have been slow to a much according to new york times sledging adult ca provided to the us government for the is really secret services. 12 workers were involved, some said to have participated in kidnappings and killings, while others provided a logistical support. the agency has already filed several people and is about to thoroughly investigate the claims for the un says the funding needs to continue while that happens. palestinian officials and occupied westbank have also urge donors to reconsider to the companies that have i know the suspension, the paid amount to 70 percent of the time you went budget of the united nation

really fund work agency based measure is extremely dangerous. i mean, it is our hope that that would be provide us with most calls ins, no follows from the homes, but the fighting people here. i'm more dependent on the agencies help whenever the head of unreal has wound that if money doesn't start flowing again soon, it's what will grind to a hold in a matter of weeks. so let's get another perspective. now we are joined by kenneth ross. he served as the executive director of human rights watch for nearly 3 decades and he joins us from geneva. welcome back to the program. the allegations and the agencies response to them are of course, still being assessed. but it already has a big scandal with a potential for real life implications for civilians and gaza. what do you make of the way that this has gone down so far? the books, literally, the allegations against

a dozen unreal employees are serious. and if they actually participated in the october 7th from us attacks, they will have been responsible, potentially for murder, for abduction. these are work. so there's no question that this is serious stuff. but the thing is for verse is that western governments are responding by essentially penalizing 2 points for you. those are still using cost because they are not responsible for what these does. the employees did, but by suspending funds to entre they, the western governments are essentially saying, you know, we don't care if you're facing large scale starvation. we are going to cut off the one agency that has been capable of feeding your. okay. i'd like to pick a part on many things that you said there um the humanitarian situation. but, but 1st i'd like to ask you about the investigation. because israel says that the

organization has failed or rather has fallen under the influence of her moss and gaza. the you and pro now into these allegation, should it concentrate on the individuals in question or does the organization need to take a broader approach? for example, looking at all of the employees. um, you know, more than 10000 there and, and perhaps the recruitment process as well. unreal. israel is distributing. it does ca, these days where it's making these broad allegations. but israel has been trying to shut down on rough for decades because it sees on road as the agency the keeps palestinian refugee identity of life. it doesn't want people thinking about themselves as refugees. they want them to just kind of go someplace else and never think about returning to the original holdings within israel. so you have to take with a huge, green salt, anything. there's no sense. but if you look at, you know, how did henri, as leadership respond, they immediately started an investigation. they vowed to criminal,

we prosecute. anybody who was responsible for, i'm off attacked on october 7th. and that's, you know, a whole lot more than israel is. don't. you don't see israel by way to prosecute. it's working to say the people who are, you know, blocking the humanitarian a to the media population, the clear work or the people who are dropping choose 1000 pound bonds in have a lead populated civilian neighborhoods. another work. so, you know, there's something just perverse about western governments. suspending a to entre immediately upon these obligations for doesn't but, but you know that the military 83800000000 in military aid, the mass of arms scales to google that continues. right? i mean, those are questions that we will ask for a of, of these rallies and their allies. um, but i just wanna, you know, drill down and focus on the situation with on, right. in particular right now, in our conversation, you highlighted there that many important donor countries have now suspended new funding to the agency,

which is dealing with this grave humanitarian situation and gaza. we heard in the previous program for, for, for example, from our correspondents in germany, giving the german argument that you know now there's a sort of due process that, that will take place. this is just waiting to see what the results of the investigation is and that there are other vessels and means by which to get aid to those who are in gaza and perhaps those are going to be stepped up. so i'd like to ask you through that lens, what do you make of the reaction by donor stairs? because we've seen so many of them now jump on board and temporarily suspend. well, while the investigation is underway, given the donor government seemed to be mainly concerned about the tax from the right by pro israel partisan because otherwise there's no way to explain why they suspend aid, and now they've watched an investigation. we can wait to see what the results of

that investigation are. but henri has very few reserves. that's because the trump had cut off 8 and so they spend down their reserves and just say, oh, there are other ways to get food and, and madison and the like to the people of, of casa. i mean, that's just not true. you know, i'm, or is the principal agency that is distributing said it has the trucks that to some extent, are able to move around the bump argument and why you don't think that the increasing donation. so the red cross or something that that's going to make any sort of dent or impact mean the red cross has no capacity to distribute the quantity of 8. this required to ensure we have 80 percent of the population of gas. they haven't been displaced or living in tens like they the distribution has to take place a midst of war. and while the red cross is a very important agency, it just doesn't begin to have the capacity to service this enormous population in need from a human rights watch executive director kenneth ross. thank you so much for joining us here and dw news to share that perspective. we appreciate it. thank if to let's

have a look at some of the other stories making headlines around the world right now. a danish worship is selling to the red sea to join the us led mission against lucy militants. the rebels backed by a ron, has been attacking commercial vessels along the maritime route because of the costs of war. if we fees claimed to be targeting ships linked to israel, pakistan and iran has agreed to improve cooperation following cross border strikes between the neighbors. us been 2 weeks ago around struck what it called the militant targets in pakistan. as long as i launched an attack in retaliation, japan space agency has re established communications with its move lender. as the craft has powered up, the rover will resume its mission to explore the lunar surface, land or touch down on the moon earlier this month, but had problems recharging its solar battery. demonstrate is blocked the entrance

of mexico's cities. so lots of they told us the world's largest full rate animal rights activists were angered by ice cream court decision to lift a suspension on bull fighting president. and today's fun, well, they'll pass over. i thought has proposed a referendum on whether it should be banned. women in russia or staging protests, demanding the return of their husbands and sons from ukraine, some claiming to support the war, while others are more skeptical. all are united in saying that their loved ones have fought for long enough and should be allowed home. i determined to do you have to, as a matter fact, marie andre event and thousands of the russians whose husbands for mobilized $1.00 to $2.00 leaf allow us as the 2 of the unknown soldier. this isn't every too old, but i protest because they belong to the husband. so i have been fighting the new grade for more than a year to finally come home. they do it. why not?

there's a war going on. people are dying, they're just the average people, men who were called up doing the partial mobilization. we can pretend, but they're not dying the deal with these. so i need some new and you know, she caused a women's initiated chief as the way home, maria, and very, very simply even took it to the campaign office of president vladimir to attend the traveler in motion. so right now, hi there. should my husband come back for both? your husband is defending our homeland and what will i get back in man without legs and arms isn't. isn't a good man. how are you talking about your husband? you don't even know what's going on. the women want to get through to pool with the i protest the president for an outage annual re celebrate that also looks christmas

with a select group of completely different women. everything's there was how much money is made to move you as you know and seen our brave, who really commends this to our boys to ski. and there's a worry. it's a rush of fighting for the interest of our country even now that it was during the holidays to do so. that's listed on the initiative has been around for months, not doing the research dates as the women have sharpened because they are tune at 1st they will not explicitly against the civil only in favor of their husbands coming back. now is there a demanding an end? was it was gimme at the symptom, but almost 3 minutes or so it's symptomatic. we see similar ongoing, but the areas of society, of young people are becoming increasingly dissatisfied. pension is, are increasingly worried about rising food prices. so, the walrus causing more a mall constant nation intentions of the show. and,

but that doesn't mean that people are ready to take to the street from us suite to know what it means, you know, facing the situation that russia is currently in different, likely with the 2 stops. if that's what i'd suggest the cause of this turn into a big a movement of the most of the problem is, is that russia is a very large country and adults to organize in all russia movement. you need profit infrastructure process. these women have me the infrastructure, nor lead them. you need to, as they refuse to give up the women. now it takes to the streets every such a day. not only he and most good, but also in st. petersburg limits. we have to come back again and write lots of protest letters to exert massive pressure. now is exactly the right moment to add these to it's, that's the moment, is the presidential election in less than 2 months time would be crammed and hasn't

yet intervened in the protest. but the fed quick change could be clean and we'd like to bring you some breaking news just coming in. an air strike in the heart of damascus has killed several people and wounded many more according to syrian stave media. it says that a ronnie and advisors were among those killed the assault that targeted several points south of the capital. a ron's and bassett, or to syria, has denied the location wasn't a ronnie and military post. israel has not commented on that attack. a report, a reported is really strike in damascus a few days ago, killed at least 5 top ranking iranian officials. and we will, of course, have more on that story as we get more details. but we just wanted to bring you that breaking news here on d. w. a quick reminder of our top story in the meantime, you as president joe biden is vowing retaliation after 3 american troops were killed in a drone attack on jordan's border with syria. us slaves,

militants backed by a ron for the air strikes and more countries have suspended funding to the united nations agency for palestinian refugees. is really cute. some staff being involved in the home off october 7th terror attacks you want. officials are urging donors to reconsider that you're up to date here into the news. stay with us coming up next to it is the science magazine tomorrow today, exploring the use of a i in schools and the importance of learning to write by hand. just do with this new test for that. i'm sarah kelly and berlin. thanks for watching the

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