the surprises i am shopping and i am ready to dive into the hands of the gentleman who to us. you have you have a one dodge. so to me, before you come to the spot on expected side to slide the israel. how boss was moved briefly to an open courtroom with the hague. as the international court of justice hud accusations of israel had committed genocide, gaza palestinians, welcome to move, including my guest, whose stuff about booty, the westbank, who heads the policy. the national initiative was the one from the court immediately to allow me is to say that there is a mission of genocide and to give is it an or death to stop your faculty, to close violence against all civilians. but he was of special combinations of israel. so how will the ball and how will the hatreds of good faith,

con garza ever be rebuilt and the better future be salvage the little, the suffering of destruction? let's talk about the welcome to complex of. thank you, but to be with you, you've said that as well is failing. it's declared items in the cause of war, but jerusalem exists it. how boss will be liquidated, and the fighting will go on until that happens. do you seriously doubt? israel is ability to achieve as a the absolutely, yeah. not the only me. i think the vision isn't really that is like, i think got was a number of the what have been a thought saying the same as an in the nothing you know is trying to create an impossible mission by trying to just to, by how much, how much does not just i meant it that is structured, it's much this is much bigger than that. and the, i don't think the, this, this is

a good that should be pursuant. i think that i've, i've, which is to ask, what can be done to and just for the situation. yes. but let's go ahead and there come back. how about a minute to find a city? a group is classified as a terrorist organization. jeopardy, the you, us, do you really think at some point as well, we'll just give up the fight against it. is that i wouldn't have to make peace was all the listing is including time us. there is no other way. eh, montana and book, your vision is not the solution. thinking of ethnic cleansing as a solution is also impossible. so that as long as the one way and the domain knowledge, how much would it be to do to accept the listing? and steve, within that acts of that expected to step solution after design austin. but to continue with this occupation would not be 20 solution onto piece. i want to get

into just what kind of future you envisage for the palestinians a bit later. but there's been a huge debate around the world about the force of israel's response to what happened on october. the 7th you have of course, condemned that responds. but on send me this, if you will, if a single day, how much must have good hundreds of his race in the west attack of jew since the 2nd world war, women and children of people would murder some or even right to a sexually abused for some of the we're actually in the peace movement is it time that how was there as well supposed to react to that press the next. i agree that i do not accept that. can you go to the engineering go to the human? do you think i need to be on the scene now known as the name? but i don't think that the fact that the csr isn't it, the children would come that the just unacceptable is are drops execution fucking

$10000.00 posting in something that is unacceptable. but you're not the, i'm the, i'm the has to do. you did not started on this event of october. the big question here is, how many pundits doing ends up being killed since 1948. and what happened before the 7th of october. and so we have time, i can describe that, but i think the message, the other thing is we have receiving that isn't it does not belong to. these does not belong to allow of other students, students and intuition and nothing else felt in the united nations and kind of the model is showing the annexation of small on the west bank. also guys are the cdn, okay. by the heights. nothing, you know is declaring company do not choose the best prime minister to prevent a listing in states. so what is the best solution to blame on violence? is it to continue the environmental guys which has already taken the lives of

$29000.00 people? if we include the people on the federal or to find a different monthly winter, you'll have an ard. so my question, which was, how was israel supposed to respond to what happened on october? the 7th, we can get it to the history we will get into the history. but, but what kind of response would you expect as well to have made? i'm didn't how most expected it would be exactly what happened. exactly what happened? no kind of how much it, how is it? as responded with boom, bottom into gust. continuously for the see leaks using on types of aspects that it's like 70 percent of all houses in got, you know, according to the most recent, that is the point during the 2nd world war, germany has on the 10 percent of all the homes and does that and get unlimited

storage unit on 2nd, what to it and not the same portion of the different sorts of discipline portion, but what would have been proportion? that's what would it be that point of view? now what would be proportional just to say to the was enough is enough with this setup of violence. we don't want this to continue and the end of the patient. so i'm going to conduct the thought and i know that you can kill the patient if you concentrate on the, on the symptom of that event, the cause of the disease. do you think you're not saying that's how boss is a was as i said earlier, to provoke israel and to doing exactly what it did provoke, must have been that tre retaliation and then condemn israel for it? no, i don't think so. i don't think i must expect the discount due for that. i don't think so. maybe if they knew what, what was what going to happen? maybe they would have to revise the plans. i don't know, i'm not in the mines, but i know that we've been living so 75 for use or for protection of displacement

of ethnic lindsey, which effective 70 percent of the palestinian people. i know about 70 percent of the population of guys that have bills if you use the list by using the 1948, i don't know what that does. it has to be on the siege for 17 years with no electricity, no water, no running water. no, no economy, 80 percent of the people. what i do kid live on employee and 70 percent. what on the positive and what, what did that lead to? i know that's kind of speaking and signed an agreement. i piece, i agree, mental it is or what they accept it, a very painful compromise. i stayed on 22 percent of the, of the historic palestine. all the united nations said we shouldn't have 44 percent . i'm still isn't and wouldn't accept. i know that nathaniel was needing this was made that right mention. wait, wait, wait. tell me that in december 2000 and president clinton, who at excuse me,

israel at who would back overdue. a state on 95 percent of the west bank, a 100 percent of the gaza strip with land swaps to compensate for the sacraments control of arrow barriers of east jerusalem divided sovereignty over the holy sides . provision for the return of many palestinian refugees to the new state. it was even by the reckoning of palestinian company. the data is the best deal that you what ever offered of yasser arafat turned it down. so you can blame the lots of things, but you have also missed opportunities along the way. this was the largest opportunity that you did miss watson, that you sent them. this is the short, which you haven't got this could i know it's a global narrative. actually. i know it's not because what demands that the negotiations send them is that is that it was not accept this thing and saw that i

need to over is to have some that was the main close. why that these negotiations? vince did not accept by this to me. i'm going to going over the waters in the georgetown friday and they did not accept exactly that. they would withdraw this. how much time though to bite the sign was the one find the not there is another side of that the deal certain said have you had a better off? no, no, no, i was just my, my question is, why is it an up to now does not say to the world. and it was your money. i have to buy the studios. what are they about? this is the only company in the world which refuses to identify. it's bought this nothing you know is say, i mean we find most likely him until destroyed. so starting nothing. yeah. the man made the mission of his life to can also until the potential for the state solution . okay, well the that, that, that is, that is your narrative. that is the problem,

especially at barrett's if you just because you accused me of pushing, israel is narrative, but that's yours. i want to ask you how important to you is the judge of genocide against israel brought by south africa at the international court of justice. do you do respect that court? absolutely, and i do think that south africa is clinic about the bidding disputes, and it does not go incident that south africa that i'd have to call out to get the quotes, throws out the south african accusation of genocide. will you accept that or accused? the court of bias, we will not have to learn it by deals by us. you will continue to that are going to mix old, understand what's happening. but if you allow me, when 29000 people buy the studios out of cuz most of the civilians win 10000 children outcome in less than 3 months. i'm doing 75 percent of the of the horses

are destroyed and all you invested does are destroyed and most trusted because i've destroyed and wednesday i but it was my cheek stuff. so it's now, since i'm have little fish in the room by bit by isn't it, i'm a good many of them and 100 to 4 i'm going to is that with this like this is general side. and when, when i send you out and money out of that is that it really does declare in the very beginning of the war that's on palestinians must be evicted. but i'm going to sign on that there's an intention not only post to conduct, isn't that crazy, but to contact the general side bible embodying the civilian population. israel has rejected the judge on many occasions, and we'll have to wait about several years for the court to give a final decision that may be interesting provisions that is announces, but it could take a long time. we've got the court then what do you want from the court immediately

if you allow me is to say that it is the mission of genocide and to give it as an add on or the stop door. or you will slow resent the quotes if it doesn't do that. no, no, no, we just stick the we, we have been appealing to the notion of criminal court for the now missed about duty, what kind of society you talked about all the horrors that of to be going on and gaza, the destruction, the desk, the injuries, the lack of basic supplies, what, what kind of society can emerge from this war. after all, the physical and psychological damage, especially to children. i do literally have such a 100 even amount of damage and destruction. we have to is one, is to make it at ease in for an event or another way is to make it on the front. i believe and making it and i'll put you on it. you had in mind it was just an idea.

the 2nd was what, but deep was the bill and we kindly built our country, but we cannot city built our country when we are okay. bye bye. and in my opinion, the hood was must see us as equally human beings with eyes of it. when the, when the boy was, sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you when the war ends. you want to see palestinian elections . you set the current crisis you wrote to show the need for palestinians to have a unified leadership and unified into the national unity government. the majority of power standing forces groups agree with this vision. really, they've never been able to agree on anything like it in the past that allowed unity between rival sections, how many promises were made about elections and then broke. how many publishers about published in unity decade after decade idea of the never happened?

was it going to happen now? because we've never been in such a difficult situation as we are to the and i knew this also been by the student on addition must accept that the unity is the only out of this mess. you know me, i've been, i've looked at all frequency relation between fire and how much i even redid them between them. and i was, the person who managed to convince them was creating a nation that even if the government in 2007, if that government stayed on, if the board cut it, we would have been now in a different situation. we went fed that in 2021. we were just about to have the democratic connections for the 1st time since 2006 unfortunately. is there any evidence of stucco to prevent the elections? they did not allow elections, enjoy those. and then the stigma and also if you use that as an excuse to cancel elections, which was a big mistake. how do we have elections in 2021,

not think about the in front of started with have got an absolute majority. we would have had to have a democratic coalition and then a government control in both west bank and gaza and then on to noticed are going to have independence identical commission. you say this without going to but the you've never showed that the palestinian authority in particular was never sure of much of the way of democratic credentials have. if you look at the flagrant, the human rights abuses committed by security services, the torture they abuse the club down of free speech. they and that's the way the interruption was. that whole is rails fault. yes, it was not the correct. they made them to not, not, it's not isn't as full alone, but it does. lot of really isn't in the fall because it is that i in one step on this thing. and also i need to be on the security code on them that it's, it's in the united states font in particular that if used to allow us to have

democratic 3 elections. okay, let's talk about the united states for a moment because that view seems to be that any agreement must contain what they call a political horizon for the palestinians and ultimately a palestinian state. do you trust america to in the system that are done? it hasn't been part of the thinking for a very long time, has it. unfortunately, the states of america has lost them an opportunity to be a total mediator. and that's gonna be the kind of between us on business. and that's why i don't think they can live, that's why they are supporting this optimal city against us. and why they are about to see people in the war themselves by sending americans on the part of the zip and it's on dominican advisors and, and planes. it's expensive to plant, i don't know if i'm indeed do you have to be in boshamp? in this case, the united states cannot be in boston because it is becoming a total and complete strategic support. federal is are, and it's an edition,

i guess, the bus student, people just about 13 by you don't have a choice here. you don't have a choice of whatever you would think of the by the administration. a victory by donald trump in november. wouldn't exactly it, hans, the powder stadium position would. so you're going to need to work with by now, whether you like it or not to the palestinian groups on the stop that the reason of others used to work was by didn't. it's listed by then who upstairs from doing excellent friend his duty during the 3 hundreds before the war started when he continued to stand the post. this solution is what we need, but it's not time for that. and wednesday nights of states of america, there's nothing to for us, is that i have to start building stuff in this, which is a united states of america mex, it's the man office to can pull it up. was the ability to state solution. so it's not our problem, it's not a problem, but let me tell you what, what, what happened with that, and guess that you didn't, these, this is very dangerous for the whole one. why?

because the team isn't on the united states, out of 10 in the world that we don't have international law anymore. and that's what is done by those of younger, you know, what that would mean to other countries in this world. it would mean if you have a problem, you can do whatever you want. well that's it. okay. can you guys look at that closer, closer to hope with you. if you reject violence against civilians you've made that perfectly clear. but if the gentleman by him, i'm not loving advocating environments all my life. i understand but opinion polls in the west bank and gaza show growing approval for violence. what's cool down resistance, just 2 months into the war. 60 percent of public opinion said they'd back a violent struggle up 10 percent from before the conflict on palestinians tired of fighting, they really want more. i assume you have supported the resistance. it's through.

and then you've documented that existence of this time is a big majority of the think that many times it is this does is more effective mainly because it's an outcome the other way which is the so when you go see issues, then what's missed that i best and this government, but i didn't go through yet, what is the end for the headed to use signing that also the theme in making us compromises and get the nothing but humiliation of it as violation even of the stigma and also to has depriving get from i mean, also to, to whatsoever inventing all the policies and citizen, those back include the we've talking about the about, guys, about also about the west bank, you know, and the west bank, the army has, could probably be more than $540.00 people since the beginning of last year and it goes on and set the packing gusts on said lot about receiving work on sundays and

rarely government. so that's what, i'm, how much does the government be? yes, but the from the other side, whatever israel did come us was committed to its destruction. wasn't that the august 1988 governor made that clear. there's no solution that set for the palestinian question except through jihad initiatives. proposals and international conferences are a waste of time. factors from us never wanted to tool. it only wanted the fights and by all accounts, it still does is not the truth. not exactly because yes, there was such statements before, but i know exactly how from as states because i met with them and all that emotions we had, i even managed to convince them was non violent resistance for more than 5 years. i didn't which time was that it was peaceful demonstrations. i'm doing that back just to be by there. is there any side? yes. i tell you what they can accept. what was included in the national unity

program of our national unity government and 2007. and it was clear, i found a simian state on 1967, but it does including these drawers and then i ended up location of that. do you want? i'm just not nation of, of that i to the dental about a student obviously, which is a very just don't the bottom of this if they got it. of course, of course, it's not the 2017. they said there shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the zionist entity. so again, nothing to discuss the thought lift meant to do what mr. this must have said. who is the finance minister in these room? and you can say he's not in the government. that's in the minnesota and the government. he said he called him says he wasn't shy lambert, i'm calling from central refreshes on the floor. and he said that we, he said that this was from the bank would settlements on this. so that kind of

thing is, would lose, i mean, the staples get on and then they wouldn't have one else. any options either to leave, which is that from the cleansing, auto accept a life of subjugation police that is, which is all part of died or die. which is, which is genocide. this the minute the, all fine the, i'm, what you said wasn't able to get that by the time you know, i, on, you could sit down and look for any new position that was expressed as it's hopeless. i hope in a different way. i see that the reason of the people on both sides who could die together to find a way out of the situation. but to accept, i may have a principle which has application of international law which day is occupation must end as an entity point for peace between both people. how like somebody is not, how likely is a day of that's very low your, your a low voice, and the very big will that this onto the bug booty. when i, i just found the item,

i was asked this question many times, but i just want to that by asking the question, who, who would have thought that the gentleman's unfinished people would confidence in such a way and they will be in union after having so many words, i think we have the promise, daniels, lives, jewish people are very much alike. we could build a field trip together to gather the van to continue to fight each other. and each of you, you, you wrote, you wrote in may last year that a great number of palestinians believe the only solution left is a single democratic state on the whole of what you quoted started palestine without occupation, a positive or discrimination. in other words, a one state solution where all citizens have equal rights of equal duties. what are the makes you think that something like that is even remotely possible? because in that situation,

like we have to do all the lands of historic by this time we have about 7000000 jewish people, about 7000000 postings to people living on the same land. one site is powerful, the other side is weak. one side is i know to buy or the other side is, will to fight. what is the solution? one of the reasons, the 1st one is to state solution, which is i have to stop by. the 2nd solution is one of the democratic states literally can live together equally and, or exist peacefully. the only have the option, because if mckinsey go 1st thing, that's exactly what happened. you know, i'm smart that it's out of things to do. and that's what, that's what i have to do in government, but that will not work. that's why we have one or 2 options. i said one of the book about 60, why not? and as one of my best friends daniel button on the literature, the waiting on the musician told me once, sometimes then bust him. it is easy of the difficult. and that's why i will never

stop believing that one democratic states couldn't be both of them. i know it looks now impossible with all these feelings of revenge and vengeance, etc. but my view with you as a leader is somebody home to people. and i go to then be picking them depressed very briefly because we're running out of time just literally what, what if you comp 5 the don't find the solution that you're looking for is october. the 7th is going to happen again. and i hope not. i don't think violence is the solution to any other violence. i think the national ends, it isn't of the people on smart to be, but look, always look for another type of dispatch. and that's what i would continue to 2nd floor so that i would have people eventually we'd be free. a lot of people would be accepted as equal human beings. and we would have all the lights on top of which should be freedom on different stuff in fargo too. thanks very much for being

a complex. so thank you. thank you. the

to the points, strong opinions, clear position, the international perspective. hundreds of thousands of people have taken to the streets in germany are right. and yet the country's biggest bar right party is seeing record numbers of members and order supports on to the point we ask in defiance, can turn. can mass protest stuff to the point in 30 minutes on the w, reggae,

most of the following. exploring jamaica's fire, those communities from collecting the additional insurance and the right to the aspirations and traditions of every day. not unique insight across the gracie and to make who's traditional here in 75 minutes on d w. the do you know which should be see, industries has the highest c o 2 emission rates which is good. concrete, transforming business delivers onset the bigger house. but the real new deal, but just reimbursing the watch now.

the dw store on 6 on the inside every day, the world cash. i used to work for free part of our timeline because we can take the different w to call the world, unpack pulse of your info and all the input you need release thoughts now onto the so you don't think and feel the same way you expect. and want different things from life and your parent. i just want to pursue what sets my so on fire or you think you kid is 2 different, risky, irresponsible,

unreasonable stuff. i want my son to become a doctor, to in the canal. it's time to to us and then when generations class this week on the d w the, this is dw news, and these are our top stories. us president joe biden has issued an executive order imposing sanctions on his release, hapless in the occupied westbank after a wave of violence. the measures include financial and travel restrictions on full settlers accused of violent attacks on palestinians is really prime minister's office, has criticized the sanctions as a necessary and describes the vast majority of settlers as law abiding. the us has approved plans to strike targets in iraq and syria in retaliation for

drawing attack.