the sign it reset in the i see march on the full month terms or the browser will. i'm as no and do site to the killing. i'm the suffering. how long could israel continue? it's military campaign, as, as allies would increasingly that too many palestinians are by my guest this week here in tel aviv is from harvey former ahead of israel's foreign intelligence service, the most side for now, europe and america are insisting that this war ends with a pos way to palestinian statehood. jerusalem says no. in the midst of this vision. cool and what can stop the blood chit? if i'm positive, you're welcome to come 6 or 4 months into the cause of war as well has failed to

achieve the 2 objectives. it sets itself crushing moss and bring back the hostages . what's going wrong? i think the war is taking longer than was expected. i think the estimates of the capabilities of the some us to continue to fight and to be relevant to advisor again. so the idea and i also believe that that's, it is also results of a miscalculation on up out as to how long this law would take and the games, even retrievable, crushing how much i think it's too early to say. i think the door is not over yet. i think uh most of the strip is no longer under the control of the time us. the major area where the fighting is going on is in the south where the

concentration is all the major combined positions of if i'm us, which have not yet been penetrated to entirely. and i think it is too early to judge whether it's the end with the final defeats of some us or something. some of the less you said recently, if we end the war without a clear cut victory of a mosque, we will not to win the war. we have to carry on as long as we can in order for the other side to raise the white flag. what if they don't raise a white side? if they don't to the raise the white flag, we will continue. i think defending the close on the patients of the international community. depending on many other aspects, including the problem of the israel, is as hostages which are being held by the other side. i think that it is

a too early to make a final of the estimates of how this will ultimately and you talk about the patience of the international community while acknowledging the israel's right to defend itself. some of the old closest allies have expressed considerable disquiet about your military campaign. you guys are due share. any of these concerns? a week of to the campaign began, i gave an interview to the london times of which i said that i thought to that to have a uh, what do you call the territory? and the nova, uh would be a mistake on our part because i felt as i said, and then they do would own the leads to agony versus i've been a i think we are fast reaching that point. but we have not reached it yet. and i think that is really has a lot of capability now to continue the war. even if we will have to also devote

attention greater attention to the developments in the north of the country. why are the most damaging accusations about is we have some of that you tactics came from joe by december he accused israel of indiscriminate bombing in gaza. and so shocking accusation isn't it? especially for military that prides itself on being the most mar, allow me in. well, well, i don't to forget it myself the confidence to uh, disagree with the president of the united states. and he probably has more information that i have for his conclusion. i would go the do different difference and know to accept this particular statement of his to it to you certainly entitled to think so he's in the position to the what he speaks about. his intelligence service has the process connections with yours doesn't. it says so he he wouldn't make it up with the oh no, no,

but not really no means especially during the fact that to the present to director of the c i a is a man to live with great ship your station and i have a note of him and i've met him in the past many times, nothing. my capacity is headed with most of it. and he was the investor to jordan when i was a, the secret invoice during the arounds for a drug being. the problem is in order to get the pastry to and i think he's a man of the annual most capability. and also he is a done things that especially on the ukrainian the a c does have been unprecedented to this accusation wouldn't have been made. logic would, it's, i mean, the discriminant bombing could amount to a well crime, couldn't it? yes, i think it's a uh, a statement which is, in my view, uh,

okay, to, uh, strong, the term to use. uh, when you have uh, domains. uh, sometimes when the scope of the bombing uses, so the big who has to take into accounts, the tier and the they might be a hitches in the operation. but i don't think this is the main character of the way these randolph else is working. and these are performing and i think that they are very much aware of the, the rules of international concerning the wolf. if you're using a 1000 pounds or 2000 pounds and into the found bouldin's in the densely populated area, it's hardly pinpoint targeting is defends, what else there is in that particular area area. if of a, the people they're using the, their own population as human shields, it's very difficult to can to,

to have an attack and to maintain an operation without having here. and there a, a, a, uh, a certain event which it was probably not the intended. but i do think that the by and large israel and these ready forces and also the apples. i'd be very careful in the way they have uh, operates in the way they have the bottom to the areas that they needed to them. the style of a cutting food boy to embed soon to the gaza strip as also prevent outrage in many quarters at the beginning of the war. a senior is ready, official, and major general across on the, on the coordinate to government activities in the territories declared that in gaza there will be no electricity, and no water that will only meet destruction. you want to tell you will get how in your view, what military am has been achieved by cutting food water and met some during the

civilian population under what circumstances is that not collective punishment out to it by the geneva conventions that will begun in a certain way a certain aptitude actions were taken as you have described them very quickly. the israel changed as follows, is i never without the food for to be brought into the area some fruit and lots of food. a larger and larger quantities of food are being taken to the area. unfortunately, this has been taken over by the time us forces the and the in many cases the population didn't know to benefit from these a surprise, the supplies of a being continuing all the time and increasing all the time. and the israel has, i think, to realize that it is in its interest not to prevent a larger and larger quantities of food to enter the territory. unfortunately,

as i say, and i said that the moment ago the, some us has taken over controls and food. and we know that for a fact, we know that i know that for a fact yes, definite the, and this is, by the way, is also created at the beginning of an uprising of the population against the, from us. this very reason i'm was that by the design, by cutting food. what's an electricity? what's the design of the is read? it was the design of the from us. no, i mean the, the design to limit food limit essential supply. so the population would rise up against i mean, this is close to township. no, i don't think that that is what happens. uh, we are from a point of view of the uh, around greater and greater quantities of food and the other essentially to reach. does it still fun? that's who was coming in before to but they, but the problem is that the, the,

some us is using the distribution of the what we are allowing to enter in such a manner. that's a many parts of the population. the many areas do not receive what we have allowed to enter. again, coming back to a point about the international community using patients 800 european, the newest civil 7 to the issue. the president of statement criticizing their own governments, what they called complicity and your military operations. and they say as well, show no boundaries. and the minute jo, patients in gaza, which resulted tens of thousands of preventable disability. and that's a deliberate blockade of age. putting thousands of civilians at risk of starvation and slow death. it's not blowing out. i think they're absolutely wrong. i don't think they have the right. the numbers of people who dies. i don't think they have

a capability to add to the area and to know exactly how many people died in a certain moment to a certain day. i believe the number of casualties does have been the suffered in the gaza strip. to some extent, not only a casual tissue which is red is rosabelle, but also the what the, how much is responsible? because that if we're talking about the rules of law and international law in war, the commercial, the last and the was who are tearing to the rules of, into the national little concerning the how to conduct a ministry operation. but under what circumstances can limiting food was to have met some not to be a little crime to 7 in population under what side we are not preventing the foods because they said or to know we did not. we did not prevent any distribution of

food to every person in the strip. every person the strip who are not to our uh, uh, hostages were given food and water as much as they wanted it to be addressed me that they be to come us. and we cannot be responsible for well crime is the most has continued a committed and for which we were not responsible. the international court of justice recently throughout, refused to throw out at ization of genocide leveled at israel. the quote went so far as to say that at least some of the acts and emissions alleged by south africa to being committed by as well. does that appear to be capable of funding within the provisions of the genocide convention? do trust the court to rule fairly. i'm not sure that the composition of the call to a guarantees

a fair outcome. but the fact of the matter is that the court did not all of the a cessation of hostilities. it did not all till the end of the war in a month from now, israel will be presenting reports on methods that they called has requested to be examined by israel. and i think that by the judge of all those who believe that the call to a to get up and a simply uh, a whistle, a, a look for claim that the houses are still dismissed. and this has not happened. and the call to and its composition is another called, which is a automatically, uh uh, on his ro side. and also told me was that we have a, a button judge you as a very provident, bad and a very capable of a man. and a very honest man, and then it's a national lawyer of the, of great repute,

and he's there as well. and i think that to, from the point of view of israel, the results, the nets results the nets, results of the decision of the i c. j is that we can continue the operation and that's what we're doing from us is a militant, is the best organization. designate is a terrorist group by the us and many other countries. that is what we're seeing, revenge what your prime minister cold might, the vengeance or self defense. i don't want to be responsible for a one, no other statements. the problem is that you don't have much time. and uh, i don't think that this is something which i have to repulse on all to protect. so to defend. what i will say is that i believe that we are acting in a way which is a commiserate with international law on come back. an estimate

226000 palestinians, 101-1500 children. among them. huge area is reduced to rubble of 2 to monetary and suffering. another $10000.00 children be left without i the parent of mother or father. does that come to a point where can you view? it's morally indefensible to continue inflicting so much death on the innocent. with a how much plays a role in this role? well, that role as well. you still in the role of execution. you don't that the will began on a certain day when the how must be evaded israel and the 1st day was the day of and which are the type of the, the actions that the forces took. all of the genius of those types of ice cream and data to bid. i couldn't imagine raping women trying to take out the

babies from the rooms of the taking the people his brothers and cutting them up in thoughts which would prevent it. even identification. i think that is where it is never enrolled itself in this kind of activity and i don't think that we should be responsible for what become us up done in the 1st days in which they were active. i have myself a travel done to south and seen entire villages that being the become ruins. small, the towns and israel in the south, where people can no longer live for the moment. and i think that once we enter, that's the area the what we wanted to do is to push the inside population as far as weight goes down to the south in order to limit the number of people who are innocent and would not be liable to suffer as a result of that,

and i think that in many ways we have the, i paid the price for that for the sum of the cases in which people have been killed and being treated not to speak even of the way the hostages being held, which is obviously, a manner which is absolutely tuffy against international and the people, the young people, baby is children, the elderly people, all these people are being kept in a no in a way which i think is the most the distance you can imagine in terms of what's international them it's and you were asked in an interview last year, what you would say to the people of guys in the wake of this destruction, the new replied i would say to the people of guys, or that it's your fault that you have paid hosts to this group do really think that

but i didn't understand what the materials say. do you really think it's the default of the people in gaza on the people engaged in that they've tried house to have mass. uh, i think that the, it's their responsibility if they believe and understand the go up of how most of the doing to them for many, many is, is against their interest. is there a duty to rise up against the i'm us actually, by the way, in recent days it will be in the green demonstrations and the self of a, uh, a gaza strip against the, from us. and people who are accusing that most exactly of the things that i have mentioned. but they live with that. and so with some of the executions torture repressions, those who protest a routine lead being arrested, tortured, beaten, subject to arbitrate touch of ale. cheat is it, is it really fair to claim that organ regardless as plate hostile must,

when in fact, many candy bookshop cowed and beacon into submission by the screw pulled back. yes, but we do not to have responsibility for the way the son must race their own population . that's not a job. and it's not our should we say a desire that they all agree population should be treated the way that god must repeat to treat them. uh, if they wants to uh, change the situation there, it's for them to rise up and it's for them to go through the most. uh, i think that is the book and we should be expected. i don't think it's our job to save the population of goes up from what become us doing to them. but we now do is real actively assisted in the funding. that's how my student is account to wait to the post and into effect in order to keep private students. this united of,

i'm able to form their own government of israel do use to the end to send the monthly quantity of, uh, of uh, food and other things. also financial help from us on a, uh, monthly uh, uh, agenda to gather with the categories. and this enables the, from us to, into some ways to uh, maintain it. so i'll talk to you in the, in the gaza strip. the, they were in charge the and we did not want that. they should be unable to buy food and to do other things as well. by the way, i would say for many years, the people, the from the, the gaza strip. a used to enter a israel daily as workers. and this also gave them the private and also

of funding. and these really the hospital, the system has ro i played hosts to many people in the some us who received treatment there. and also underwent a very complicated operations in the best hospitals we have. so i didn't think of it if there's any way to choose israel in this way of, of being a, uh, improper in this treatment of the mouse. if you take the entire to over so many, is israel trying to create a new buffers and gaza with it to move its borders into gaza, despite the opposition k r o position from america. and i do not believe that israel will enter garza and overtake possibly the territory. there is a part of the of the of the connects. it's of these. we have apartments as it

one or 2 potters, which would like israel to a return to the as a after we left. does it by the way to ask about our own. but ition the decision to lead because a in the 2005 and 6 was a, a decision of israel. you still controlled everything that went in and out. yeah. it's basically a lot of goods, but we're going to have to because of our own. but ition and, and it was a, the desire of the vin problem is to shut on that we should not negotiate. we should simply leave and not to impose upon them that any, uh, an act. so any obligation towards us. a uh, i think that uh, that was uh, in my way, uh, in my an estimate i'd say, an a wrong thing to do from

a point of view. i don't believe in any of those asian, which on some is a you say, ok, i'm going to move the the area and do whatever you wish. i think it with the being better if we had negotiated with them. that was the wish of mr. shut on because he didn't want to recognize them as a force in the area. and it just them, it force in the area. but they were afraid to do what they wanted to count. prime minister has ruled out a sofa and palestinian state a 2 state solution. feel less than allies are insisting that there is a pathway to this palestinian state or how do you get the due date is of palestinians. thank. do you want to see why i'm come to ever be peace if that is i believe the ultimate 90 my personal opinion is that uh ultimately uh that would be a better city and state that is my understanding of what we have over in the state

of southern states, yes. the southern states. uh, it is also uh my understanding. but if the palestinians are able to get that house in order and this is for them, i think a, you need a, uh, a chance to uh, be able to achieve sovereignty. of course, this will only be achieved if they do not uh, continue to uh, allow a tenor isn't to be used as a tool against israel, but they have to have something to hope for something i think. so i think that some of these rel has taken that away, and i think that the, in, in, in a real negotiation, 3000 them. i think we could reach a understanding which would be supported by the international community,

by the adverb load. we are also in touch on these that matches together with united states and with saudi arabia. and to some extent, even we've cuts out to see to it that there would be an option, a viable option for a better city and state and one way or another. and if there is one, we have just one more after another. i hope not. i don't want to be a despondent in advance. i want to hope for the better to uh, i think that uh, maybe uh the time will come when the majority uh, on the other side of the border at the moment. well, the realize that it isn't that interest to find the motive and do it as well. if i'm out of it, it's been good tab down complex. so thank you back. i feel the

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