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the subscribe know to dw talking entry. the also to say i never tired of explaining how germans think to both the germans and the french at starch. born is a german in frankfort. he fled to france with his jewish family in 1933. i guess he's regarded as the key intellectual figure behind franco german cooperation a 100 years after it ended the 1st world war still cast a long shadow today. because we would like to talk to him about the great war and his work for german french relations in michigan began meetings. question to hey go say i missed a couple of sam,

you've spent your whole life explaining how you became french. have you succeeded in becoming a frenchman good? some time. partly there's, there's a lot to be criticized in front sweep as the french nationalism is very strong. oh dear, i know people hold onto the memory of the 1st world war in my opinion, fond too much. because the president has just travelled across the vast form of battle ground at the 1st world war to show how deep the connection with the wall still is. that there is a deep connection in every french family. all of them had at least one fallen soldier and the fast wall and wall in front. hi, skip this. the 1st world war is commemorated in france, but in germany it's quite a different story than in france. they call it like holland. again, the great wars pop, the language alone tells us that remembrance is different. why is that a home? the re fee because

a lot more people died. and the 1st thing in the 2nd world walks in the southeast in the 2nd world war. and i don't mean this disrespectfully, a few 100000 french, were killed in the estimate, but in the 1st world war, it was millions. edith and every family had that debt to people are more reluctant to commemorate the 2nd world war. because fronds wasn't quite as honorable and it's defeat, then we all have this one guy. he's not gonna issue these lots of high end. what is it that the french can memory about the 1st world war? and then he didn't asked him back to good thing. is it sick? 3 or what is it? that is, the stuff is prob, i knew when fox and i was a boy scouts when i was a, till 9 years old on the that was 6 of us and a groups as i knew and every member of this group competed. why did i bid that i was competitive to that for that. i want as the leader of this group. and i said, that's a little strange. i'm still a job and yes, match, you'll be french,

they said, and it symbolic for you to do it. i didn't experience anything else or helping me and proof of my mother's 1st experiences. yes. my father died when i was young. well, wonderful. i didn't school. it was great how they accepted me with dining. that's who i had private lessons for free with a teacher and so on. then after a year, my french was advanced and i was really proud. i didn't put me in great falls. that doesn't start. that is unless good. what did it happen? different if you had been treated differently here. how did you feel about it? it's about kind of the intake of that. it wasn't integration, it was really assimilation. and the boy scouts group was wonderful. who my schoolmates? it wasn't easy at the beginning. i couldn't speak a word of french 5 years. they asked me come onto japan time because that insulted me in the german school. i told they were throwing insults at me too. so i started

fighting. you started fights? yes, i did. what happened next? they laughed at me, but i was treated badly as a little jewish boy in my school in frankfort, and therefore for those who would have been here and then you were to say, well, you have only obviously you have to put up with a great deal of suffering and tested, see how you say yourself is how things got off to a bad start for yourself. you approach this difficult task with such great dedication, rebuilding a relationship between france and germany, and inviting and how did you achieve that without hatred? after such a terrible beginning and it still begins to the comedy. so how could i write about my experiences without bias? i can't say just that i had a very positive temperament. this was the key. this is the 1st time. how would you describe your role? you played a major part in the franco german reconciliation endorse the saying,

bad things about germans and germany. bad things about france and france. that's the main go. it usually works is august. i say a lot of bad things about germany and germany and about france in front. nobody minds union destiny. what do? why not have food and nobody minds? if i said, because i'm the way i am on this, which means i can get away with saying and doing anything. i'm an absolute advocate of understanding and reconciliation. so what i say can only be right, that's not actually the truth, but i let people believe it was even though it's vega. i'll stars, what is it that made it possible for the germans and the french to get along and talk to one another today as if these mores had never happened these weeks? is that how it is? so this new shows. uh, i wouldn't say that's the case even when they know full well that these was

happened and still, but that's how i describe that everything has been done doing shoulder was not forgotten, but nothing is forgotten. so that hitler, the concentration camps and not forgotten, none of that should have struct, genuine human communication between the germans and the french. not with everybody . of course, there is still a generation today who cannot accept the phrase, the germans not still exists. no. but on the whole, the 2nd and 3rd generation are now fronts friendly and germany friendly. and that's why i think it's hospitality. i was just as read as i was the negative tactics all over with all the gifts that i mean like uh, let me call to america and england will divide the 2 countries which are rejected here. why should we argue with germany when we no longer argue with england and spears died? thundered alpha announced though it is odd um,

you say that the wars are not forgotten. we are commemorating the 1st world war. now. what does this commemoration have to do with us and our lives today? is it still necessary, or is it an old habits that we no longer need? i watch the board. we don't really need it anymore, but we are talking about like home gown. great remembrance for a great wall. so many more germans fell in the 2nd world, golden french from all this, which is why the germans often don't understand why the conga means the 1st world war. the most french peoples is in the 2nd world war. and this has to be reiterated again and again. the front suffered relatively little compared with germany. we didn't really get it, in fact, visually died, so on. so i certainly believe that the 2nd world war left its mark on the front is buddhist. there was the resistance,

a lot of heroic actually just bought lots of heinous things happened to such as denunciations, so, so, so by that, by my was gone the whole, however, it was really a mine. oh, well, off the front. if not the germany, germany had many more victims, particularly snowfall. get this message, would you say you are at heart both german and french. one console is, is i don't know. my identity is completely french. others, but it's true that i studied jem and just i'm a professor of german, so i've learned 2 languages fluently as it was here. i hope this guy did sweat it out for a few and then it. yeah. and she is doing and how you never spoke german with your 4 sons stuff as a specially boost. that's something you regret denying them that culture. yeah, yes i do. i deeply regret it. if i'm a catholic, i would spend a long time confessing it about that's the way it is. if you like,

maybe i didn't want them to feel germans do it. but yeah, it's one of them spent a year and stop on it and then started for a year in strasburg, so he can speak german, one of the 4. by the way, it's very german to have $0.04 and g. laugh a lot. is that for you also? yes, my students always joked about that, that i laugh so much, you know, very french would you say no better at germans with a sense of humor to the who more for the doors and the height in the when you look at your up today, how does it make you sad to see strong ideologies on the rise, which appeal again to young people attracted to the notions of blaming others for problems. finding simplistic explanations for it and one country wants to leave the you. does this make you lose hope stuff? is it tall, was headed into that house? no one should never lose herbert or allow it to be taken away.

it's true, however, that europe is in a very sorry, state of affairs, all name 2 countries and then go hungry is, as i'm european, as it gets on poland to of the various other countries, no longer feel european and that's a great pity oil. who does this is the french president has really done a lot for europe here and is continuing to do so. now he's proposed a european ami god, i think the minds of the older people among us will say that this already filed in 1954. so the incense but it could work this time. none of the individual european armies have very strong. so a common one could be a good thing and it combines alabama with the mystical. so maybe you have grandchildren. how do we explain you're up to this young generation? what does the new generation need to know? roughly around us, what they have to know what happened in the past?

that is crucial, thoughts for them and you see what progress can be made. the board is open, just as phrase would have been a revolution 20 years ago. is that the key and let people know what happened in the past when people have to commemorate morris in order to move forward fund again? can, you know, don't need that to resume. it's always important to know about the past. we only that, so this divided side. it should be wide spread and guns and that shouldn't be stupid answers to questions about the recent past. now it's just because it's already been forgotten, egless and mystical save. now it's time for our 3 incomplete sentences. i start a statement and you finish it. my greatest happiness is my wife. my greatest fear is china and america together.

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