that the west has recognized the danger all the science with us. we really understand that if we fail, uh, we will lose our concepts, euro my done thoughts, february 17th on t w. the. this is data medias, africa coming up on the program could set a goal the reversing its democratic gains. president mackey solves decision to delay this. month's election has spot anger, fulton parliament and on the streets. we discussed what this means for the countries debility also coming up set of goals, office to join, the protest movement, worried that the current situation paints a grim picture of the countries democracy. and the mike's off on, we look at the rise of podcasting in africa and hear from some of the people making

their voices heard and making a living from it. the know i'm told me on lot of people welcome to the program to the outside world sent a goal has appeared to be one of west africa as more stable democracies, at least on till now. but internally, the political scene is in town while the country was supposed to be having elections in just over 2 weeks time. but president mackie saw who was due to step down instead postponed the exercise. and that sparked anger. security forces removing opposition, members from the chamber as they try to block the vote. president monkey saw had asked parliament to approve at the lee of the upcoming elections or

with these pati holding majority in parliament. the bill quickly passed. the opposition has called the move constitutional cool. but the president denied he was clinging to office. what am i buy? one for my pock, my solemn commit, but not to run in the presidential election remains unchanged. so i will engage in an open national dialog zillow to bring together the conditions for a free transparency and inclusive election process. but on it includes the early of the constitutional code at disqualified civil presidential candidates, including the man endorsed by the president. microsoft said that e regularities in the registration of candidates meant the elections had to be postponed. scenic all has been seen as a beacon of peace and stability in west africa. obviously some candidates see that

image is not tonisha. to be in this country that was a champion of democracy in a country that had become a benchmark in africa and the world want a country respected by all and everywhere. what has happened to bring us to this point, he would go now not even as a suggestion, but seeing that goal has seen its fair share of trim or in recent months, demonstrators and opposition members have been arrested and killed, fueling more tension. they planning on keeping the just the beginning with just the big them and they're going to go on and on and on and on. we don't know. so we are ever since we want to confront unless you election and that's all we want. we don't want anything else, not to the senate goals, appointment with democracy has been delayed. many here fear that monkey song at best, has said

a worrying sign and at the worst is boring from the playbook of his autocratic neighbors. so has the mackey, sol changed his mind, the box spring and power? i put that question to lie to your team from the grey institute in deka the speed he repeated that he had left to post the space. so once leave, that is what you said. even he was a higher speed to the, to the center of the nation. and he, or know that max of decided not to run force it to him. but uh, what happened really is that it is the pressure of the mass. nothing to nothing to live with. that makes him uh, drop that decision to run for sitting next to him. but what do you see now that he's not really yet to include the power? because uh today. uh, he wants to stay 10 more months and illegally. he's, he's monday, he's supposed to and at the april the 2nd and the 2nd,

they going to be the president standing phase because we didn't i log in to state ask for that. know now uh what is going to be done on a date from april 2nd, you don't know. yes, but what the issue is a lot of people who say that, that we're going to use that to use not really it to of we're not gonna change because as you may know, he's not running towards that term, but i'm about to use the prime minister today is the one who's chosen run for addiction to, for the, for the, for the property and power. and i think that the as some, some, some, some, some for some of them studies. i showed you when i was commissioned today, uh to me and due diligence, and that is why he decided to pay the preference out because he's going to, he's in there because i want everybody to accept to use his dyslexia because i

think free a free people that the political body to run for an action as the president. right . so where do we think this is heading? we've seen some of the anger out in the streets. we're seeing politicians as well expressed the the outrage. um, will this be settled in the street? so in the quotes? oh yeah, yeah, definitely a hobby. i think 2 strategies. the 1st one is uh the, the, the, uh, the uh, the quotes you did at the, i'm assuming that happened and that's a very different finance. ringback right now, so you can finding the position how good company and the direct person by the forty's, because that is supposed to have those campaign because then it showed up us phone by the, by the problem. and for this 1st day that this was, this was the sunday, this sunday. there were some, uh uh, some uh,

some people in the person who i received the quote they decided to do the company more stuff than what i received about they were leased at 25 hours later. this a good spot to use that to go to court. because today this decision has to be confirmed by the customer code. and uh uh, they have protested to take the simple to say that they have to come service decision made by the right person. and to confirm by the by the somebody because the last award is for the. ready cost of the console and now they have not the, the suite tried to have the campaign. but at the same time and i've done some part as to where they called us. busy corporate governance, this is the president, i'm just wondering synagogue for a long time, at least from the outside, has been seen by many as a beacon of democracy in, in, in the region where we see trouble. we see military coups and, and things like that. but is this a view actually misguided?

it has incentive goals. democracy actually be at being as stable as the outside world seems to think to i think i think that is uh, that is the mentality that the, the, the actual present did not really uh, uh, many things because uh since you got it, you see or was seen as a, as a more of demo crossing the stuff we got, if you see the, the countries are honest and the guy that have gone through. uh, who did the honda go onto uh, uh, cv was hog going through uh, uh, editing and prizes. it may not be those to show even uh that i have shown that democrats is not really uh, something really vista humphrey and uh, then i got, it was quoted as an example because you have gone to uh, uh, transitions uh, apply what has come to the car for 5 hours after uh,

$1040.00 used for 5th in power and drive yesterday too much time has come. uh, wednesday, if there's any day today is not really some deflected a ways to run a country because as an example, i think the see the 5th is, is it is not for you to why than because you're not as artist. you today the hundreds and hundreds of women who are in jail because they just uh, protested for the you mean by the, by this particular the body and barbara, uh, something that is i received or the internet is got. so i think that the feeling of even that is the that the number i have in san diego. and now what we see today is the quoted uh, uh, because uh, the 5th and 5 decided to, to postpone the election to stay in powell for about one year. and uh, i don't see the difference between what he has done and what is happening in the credit card. you had attempted to decide, oh, wait a minute to re comes in. uh,

and just because uh, going on and just set a date to file from now, because legally she doesn't have the right to stay again. but what happens is that to data echo us and that's going to meet the age and the condemn. it means that even when the president, i send violence, the deputies of vehicle russ, date 1000 and really condemned by company incentive is really unfortunate because the sending of these people expecting more than that from the international companies that will be wanting to see how it unfolds with, let's here, teen senior program office a for peace building and conflict prevention at gore institute and dot com. thank you very much for that analysis. thank you. in recent years, political protests have become more common incentive goal and human rights groups

have accused the countries the security forces of using excessive force the crack down on descent. while the threat of violence awaits those taken to the streets, some senegalese are using the odds to express the grievances as dw throughout to report from com. an odds collect isn't that costs up, but normally this building is full of students learning how to express their frustration through graffiti today. it's almost m t mobile internet switched off across the country. many people staying home, fearing violent protests, a match to the co founder and teach, use a square 50 to denounce this government's actions. you can see some people are killing or not. i want to send this to son some one. now somebody at least 23 people died during anti government

demonstrations. and this the international says some were shot by police just one hour of the month to finish this ad work, the world was taken down by the government. he suspects we cannot talk about democracy if it's, it's kind of an example where someone by himself can decide to lead or who, who go to, to go to succeed or not. that's not the mark. we are the generations wake up, brutally and understand that something is definitely wrong and we have to change it right now. what else are you going to call residents expressed. i just sleep as much as sides decision. so today's the election, when young people just press one, change the street someone to do than usual, and protest smaller than in previous yes. but many, yes, yeah. that lots of potentially more violent protests. i got to come here, but i'm really short because you're perfect. i really thought we were going to,

but i've never seen anything like this. i was born off the independence and i never thought we'd lived through what we see. and now the african countries here in center go looking phase applicant. what am i doing? profit by the or not, but we schedule it with with terrorized because we live in complete insecurity to that. let's give you when you see the protest and what's going on here. it's difficult to lift the violence again. so we have the heart of the government, the young people here they've sold. the claim is but they don't have any luck. there's no work, there's nothing here. a tool don't try out the end of this a little a little bit silly because he don't found that let me look back be so san san francisco and this video is, was about the last demonstration. instead of go about telling the president to, to stop, you know, all these troubles instead. i go and try to go down the situation to use the days. it seems that everything's, we're going back from 0. did. yeah. why?

the is a rep of who's thinks about the backsliding of democracy in this country. he's urging old people to come together and send up for their rights to decide about sending those future. i'm not waiting for it on my side. i'm waiting for. i'm hoping i'm praying that every cent of the lease is on all these own development . and if we, or believe we know what the insanity we can discuss it. thank investors. out gallery, his team of developing them next visual assaults and the presidents. the few years ago, and i believe people will never be able to go outside and expose themselves on the front of police just like we would have gone fully sharp point of view. it used screaming for the center. the i was other from my i see that that's my,

that's my personal experience. i see that for this population, want it to be free. will need any young people know exactly what they want. jobs, peaceful elections, and a prosperous future. the evolution of technology is changing the way we live in many ways, including the means and manner of media consumption. podcasting is one of those sectors that is growing even in africa and it's giving content, creators opportunities and freedom to get their voice as had the thing is also mostly led by women. as dw edith can many reports from nairobi. can you another fundamental of reach 6 for me is the freedom to be super loud lead to a p. m. and we were given when you may have a few to conversations,

but the podcast eyes carefully to reach the image. they've disrupt up creating content which will be released over the coming month for their podcast. the mfc in between or t m i. recently they've been named one of africa's talk shows. they see they're offering something new for an applicant audio talking about their lives in a fresh and uninhibited way. some people will still be like you young adults are little bit talking about these fuel corrupting the vision with, with something and the others were like, wow, thank you for talking about these. thank you for sharing some of these things that you know, other women of we've, i thought i was alone, you know, both the way through it. and for us, i feel like those people, that's the 2nd group they want to keep on going to you mind discuss is sensitive and taboo topics in a bunch of being relax. style was like no one is uploading a one for being a mom to a kid that she gave birth to. yeah. but people absolutely. it's an intimate way of talking that has indeed them to a loyal, fun base. we'd like to create an feel tight. and so, and that's what was one of my own individual pages like authentically creating and

sharing knowledge, journeys in a very vulnerable and open way. so we want to, to, you might to be boxed but not even a stronger concentration and more focused on the struggles we've been have moved across to 60 attending young go and had team a guessing a boost ready to take a new media company illegally to this africa to a large beauty exhibit. she started a personal podcast 5 years ago. now she runs a fully fledged media onto price, offering training to budding podcast. so what i did is come up with the curriculum to digital digital curriculum to coach africans on how can they make sustainable contents and then needs them to be new me, dep petition and those that we've had our own in house master classes on podcast. thing teaching about the business uncle, because a big part of sustainability is not only the content, but also how do we make sure you're making adequate revenue? seen women make that revenue and keeping it is something close to many simple goods

hot. she works for africa, part fest, which supports podcast us in a range of different ways. we can see this future this potential. but if we don't step in like in, in and talk about the money, talk about how we going to actually creates business models out of this. how we going to make sure that the money flows in a way that sent us us the historically marginalized? you know, then it's going to pass by us, pass. it's going to pass and other people who kind of take it over if they're not. if they don't come and find us back at the studio, lydia and ruby wrapped these shoots with over a 1000000 plays across various platforms. their pod cast is now able to do what most cannot pay them. let's speak now to josephine car and a co founder of africa pod fast. hi joe. and we also had your colleague in that

reports melissa, co founder as well. and in that report, just talking there about how podcasts have created korea's for people in kenya, you've been studying the continent and, and the trends with podcasts. what makes for a good podcast? ok, well, thank you for having me. so one of the things about agreed african flood cast is that it is created with the african audience in mind. so agree podcast knows exactly where it's being listened to. so you already got the idea and this name mind whether they're sitting in traffic and they will be, or they have a business in a cry or they are add, you know, somebody who's in a position of leadership in lagos, wherever the are you know, exactly how long they are going to listen to the broadcast and why they're listening. so you've got to grab the attention in the 1st 20 seconds. if you don't

have the attention, you go to start again. it's a great podcast one because it's responds to the language of the person who's listening to that part costs. and of course, it is rooted in the things that people love about actually come great storytelling, great accounts, great personalities. and that's what i think would make a really good um podcast. what trends are you seeing around podcasts both in terms of the way they're made, but also in terms of the way they're consumed? so that's a good point. first, we started looking at what people are thinking and consuming from a perspective of asking people what would you like your pod cast to be a favorite point? cost is talk about and the phone that people want to hear stories about what's happening in the country. what's happening in the neighborhood, what's happening in the industry, and a lot of people really enjoy listening to pop culture podcasts. be like listening to stories that don't necessarily get time on the national stations. they want to

hear about topics that know we sped in many contexts and it could be everything from how much money do you on to what are the latest trends to what's going to be happening in 2024. so a lot of people who responded to us serve as africa pod, fast when really identifying the, the one to see themselves in that put cost. they want to kill themselves. and then in reverse, we heard from the broadcast to say, great, we love this data. we're going to take it and we're going to amplify the, what they've been doing. and so you find like the top one costs across the continent responded to the people who need to really have authority to voice. is that really speak their language and understand the context? but because you know podcasting is is accessible, it's the whole scene is democratized in a way of letting people to even say that possibly they ought to many contests. um, because of the kind of content um,

do you think this freedom and this unfiltered nature can become a problem as well? i mean we launched africa podcast. they have to be on february 12th of every. yeah . and every yeah. we've had some people saying i still haven't had a podcast like the one i want to create. and so there are lots of interview style costs like this particular interview. there's lots of people who are going into nice areas. they have shoes, growth in um, spirituality and religion podcast of all, nature's and also multi lingual podcasts going across the country, of course the continent and that's really exciting. these are generally around individuals and then you say community. so sort of this organic ground level. but how can sort of the, the biggest fish, the coal praise the n g o is the government's get involved in a track, the same kind of audience and get involved in that conversation the same way. so i

think i would really like people who have an, you know, a currency to invest in forecast to remember this. it is a read, we're reaching your whole audience. and we've seen this happen this seen heads of state um, you know, go to podcast to have their, um, you know, audiences reached. we've seen that a lot of the audiences that are growing across africa are jen z. b, i, you know, the fastest growing demographic across africa. so, you know, as a person who is creating content, building around a message, if you have stories that you need to or you have to be involved in audio, we're seeing people build around the concept of the way that audio is portable and creating really like you know content that can be transferred using social apps that can be transferred to even using a flash. this that's taken by um, what's the bike to the next audience? we've seen that happen and we've seen audiences really respond to that and see,

thank you for reaching me where i am. so anyone who's got a, you know, a moment to think about where to put their advertising, where to put to their people. put testing is going across africa, thanks to one customer who's been doing it. you know, in its original form, using narrative podcast, people who are award winning globally. and so there are experts from across the african forecast fees. we're making the best context really available. if you open up our websites for point testing to africa, you'll find some of them. if you go into many, many, many parts of africa, you will find a podcast produce that producing great content. we are excited that this is going to become a big part of what's happening across africa, but people need to be informed, you know, get knowledgeable is lots of free resources. if you know, just where to click. so it is an opportunity. i think people should take advantage of the fact that african produces, i'm needing discharge,

and african markets are ready for that. okay, we'll look forward to seeing how the scene develops just being tied into a of advocate part for us. thank you for your insights. thank you. and you can also check out all of our d, w podcasts, wherever you get your podcast, but be sure to check out other new stories. a d, w dot com, forward slash advocate or on social media. that's it for now, but will leave you with these images of the south african single tyler? she's just one the 1st grammy for best african music performance awarded for hit was a next time bye for now. came up and then just

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