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the the gas business, a source of conflict since the cold war. that's because the gas europe, so desperately needed came from russia. a partnership that creates major political dependency. so this was all seen as part of the overall soviet strategy to weaken the west and to break up the data fears that were by no means unfounded goss option, using oil and gas dependencies as a political weapon, was common practice in the warsaw pact. a meanwhile, a young person began his extraordinary career. as a case officer,
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you have to be able to manipulate people. so there's no such a single form, and you'd be good. vladimir put and became one of the world's most powerful leaders and made the gas business a top priority. the russian president recognize the power of his nation's greatest treasure. he said, we do have more oil and gas than anyone else, and people should remember that you know, that says no to read reliable alternative. if russia, as an energy, german governments in particular continued their reliance on russian blue gold. it was clear who had the upper hand and this arrangement vicki when us posted, you just entered which fields can we access and we'll see what pipelines are available if you don't have any of them. and that's the case here is that we will have to look for ways to be compensated because of the collect. no, it wasn't showing a gas problem, set the prices and the conditions the challenges were punished. people,
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someone's turning off, the gas happened the 21st century. you could definitely call it an act of war despite saber rattling and cutting its supplies to eastern europe. russia's aggressive foreign policy was tolerated. and that's not all right. the idea that you would still build up this dependence on russian energy was thought of is, is crazy. but the north stream will help to ensure that europe continues to have a secure supply of gas in the future. so going from rush to remain the guarantor of gas industry stability in western europe. while the political fallout was ignored, cost promise, bundled as they rushed on. it's one of the sale weapons, the western side barrier, russia. here the regions indigenous people uphold their 1000 year old traditions
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and yet are reindeer herders. for decades, marco sort of rate those retinue has been following the same route through the tundra up to the northern carter seat. but then gas from open to gas to be able to cross the herders past the flood, thoughtfully. the roots, we had just completed the animals through the tundra, is becoming more and more difficult railway lines, pipes and roads. it's a huge problem. pristine natural surroundings now consigned to history. after the river, the group must navigate the hard concrete roads around the both on. yeah, and cobalt gas feels the provisional solution on this particular day gas problem. workers role material out over the road. this protects the wouldn't run or is on the end slits. hello. hello, i'm headed a group started. please allow me to confirm and what do you think they're going?
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it wasn't that easy. one of the, some of the animals didn't want to cross it 1st. the look around me is just like a red carpet of a cooperation driven by necessity. the indians and the reindeer can cross the both on young football field for now, but for how much longer. no one here knows gas problem, employees on site are well aware of the conflicting interest. humans came here and destroyed the unity and harmony of nature of the home. they've opened up new areas to extract and guys from nature's resources that also brings good things much, much through the streets of families and creates many, many jobs. in the year 2019 gas prom employed,
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$1200.00 staff at this site alone, middle workers surrogate. the vet came came here for the 1st time 10 years ago and i wanted to be there. i'm sure the guys comes from there seems to be at the source and being involved in the process. the 1st time i was here, the cost wasn't flowing yet, but i was overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of pipes has mental constructions. we thought it was immediately fascinated will grow as well. the gas problem eventually began production here in 2012. it's a high security zone, a kind of a russian gold reserve sector. go out of gas and oil, or like drugs were addicted to take them away and what then withdrawal symptoms for the woman we can manage without it, take them away and what's left of our economy collapse as well. but it wasn't just
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the russians themselves who needed a steady supply of blue gold. europe also relies on gas gas from russia, a dependency. the gas problem has been exploding for decades, furthering russian president putin's political power spring, 2006. right after gas problem cut the gas supply to ukraine as a response to a dispute and price increase. the effects were felt in other european countries. boone gas problems plants to rebuild gas appliance around traditional transit nations nord strains. but it's a good to them, get the new head of the shareholder committee. mister sure, to see the vision does the invest a little button. you'll be aware that we have a growing demand for gas in western europe and declining self sufficiency within the region itself. and that's why it's extremely important to build this pipeline to reasonably satisfy the demand that exists and will continue to exist. i gave
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them the bill for norfolk this lead into the early discussions process. one of the connecting nurse to one was removing trends flow from ukraine into differential 0 saying it's and you guess, but they were lying for everybody. and boss was already looking at them while the german ex chancellor pursued his lobbying activities, a key pipeline supplying gas to georgia, it was blown up in the depths of winter. the georgia in government had previously refused to sell its own pipelines to russia. the georgians suspected of conspiracy and felt like they were being blackmail. i think the world to make up to disrupt because to the was you crying today? it's much worse than georgia. tomorrow. it can be any other european country is to touch is dependent on this. it is possible and unpredictable supplier gas problems counter campaign was already in full swing. as soon as we feel assured by mr.
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miller, that there won't be any problems but supplies to germany in the future. i need to hopefully make it didn't. so comes to meet up to sort of home deutschland, so says i haven't been any problems with the german supplies either. he gave them a short time later. alexa and miller struck a very different tone with a masters and moscow money alone wasn't enough. he said, the you would, should stop obstructing his company's expansion. the head of gas problem said, get over your hostility to russia, or you won't get any gas. they thought they were in an imperial position when it came to natural gas, the in 2005. so they took us all to west inside the area. and then we have the dinner with president put and i ask him, is rush or an energy superpower? and so he looked at me and he said, oh, i seem to know energy superpower is an old fashioned cold war tongue. but he said, we do have more oil and gas than anyone else. and people should remember that the
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germans did in 2006. the chancellor in the head of the sab traveled to siberia, to secure access to a new gas field, a demo even back then. ideas were already circulating about building pipelines to the east. there's a need for gas there in china. you know, another reason why it was, do you are politically important for us to secure these gas reserves for ourselves in your own? in to see how the pipeline project continued without consulting eastern european nations. the unilateral approach unsettled roddicks, of course, kate, who was polish defense minister at the time there's a long history of very ominous direct relationship speech in germany and russia. we count among those, the politicians of portland, and then of course they had let this fall in part, when germany and russia fixed something together over our heads,
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we don't like it. we feel threatened by the europeans know, that says no to read reliable alternative to russia as an energy. but europe should not pick 10 that the russians had to be great for, for being allowed to supply of oil and gas to you. on the contrary, do your vin should make allowances for the price, the russian, one of the rabbit d of your website. so as a profession, features of the country's history. hooton's power depended on the efficient exploitation of russian energy reserves. you could see russian production decline very rapidly with the collapse of the soviet union. it came back very strongly in the 2 thousands for russian production. it recovered oil prices went up and drive me put in the road into
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a stronger and stronger position on the back of rising oil prices. jean to own its international image. the company hosted a british film crew in 2006, i guess from the likes of eat or enjoy failed, has made this company. while the wealthy and the laptops have a red glimpse inside the company's net sensor. the tv team was even permitted to film in the control room. the managers oozed with self confidence because the next benchmark will be one thing, the biggest company in the world. yes. the british reporter was shown around the entire gas problem headquarters. but this didn't look like a company with a trillion and turnover. equally modest step infirmary and the small in house tv studio, the 13 years later, we get the same tour. it's a completely different picture. since
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2006 gas problem has earned more than 200000000000 euros from its gas business with germany alone, searching a city on the black sea and host of the winter olympics in 2014. ready sponsored by gas problem, among others, were taken around the olympic stadium by a member of staff. in st. petersburg to gas problem maintains a towering presence. when we visited the offices, were still a work in progress presented as of the company's new age q. it's the tallest building in europe. but in the year 2021. after years in the planning, the locked the center was still empty. like a movie set. millions pro hollow symbol of power.
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the russia seem to be a strong green country economically. but then, you know, the big boots have put in was the energy prices then were rising so fast and that i think it bolton tim to do a lot of things that he wouldn't have done otherwise. the pollutants global agenda became more ambitious and aggressive. since he took office, tens of thousands of people have died in chechnya. a former soviet republics that saw an independence from moscow, the one courageous journalist and dare to criticize for the brutal war. the situation is ongoing. human rights are being completely disregarded. following 2 attempts to
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force in the journalist, she was shot dead on the 7th of october, 2006 in the elevator of her apartment block in moscow. it was susan's 54th birthday, a short time later, text f s. b agents alexander live in young, co, publicly exposed. the president's displays would show the move up rules to build on you. somebody has us directly who is guilty of on his desk, who have you, that you put in what we had an interview for do, would you please give me personally, i can direct the on see you. it is mr. put in the president of the russian federation, who's killed her. 3 days after the murder vladimir putin visited uncle america in germany. in a tv interview that evening praised miracles, ability to listen well. the a few days later, alexander lived in younger it was poisoned with
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a radioactive substance in britain. after weeks of suffering, he died the a while and dressed in vladimir putin. the also presented gas from as the new sponsor of chicago for the company promised to invest more than 200000000 years. and the bonus league of soccer club gas from needed to essentially chum its way into the house of jan and football funds. so that it legitimized what it was doing . and so he will be just seen as a legitimate member of the eco system. so that people wouldn't ask questions and they wouldn't feel as though that was something strange or insidious about all of this. before long gas from the bonus league and the champions league became inseparable bed simmons spoil is very important to people. people fall in love with spoil. they feel very passionately about dates. and so because of that, you know,
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people had almost the 7 questioning relationship not just with gas from, but by implication with the kremlin proxy war that we've lived for the last 10 years. he's intended to disrupt divide to see sponsorship and spending on sport as being part of that proxy wool. so was many of us may think, well what we want you to you as a champions league games on spike as problem. we've been watching chalka sponsored by gas problem. in reality, we've been watching a weapon that has been deployed gas problems. most powerful lobbying weapons was get hodge screwed up in 2019 the fire, the stark gun at the north stream race and to the sporting event itself. seemed completely divorced from any political turmoil, doesn't want to do the, the amount to disregard to is connecting baltics. and we're bringing together supporting cultures, clothes on, sailors from different countries, and finally begins. and that's, that's precisely what north stream is doing. now,
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what else we can a big contribution to international understanding. intercultural coexistence, mid on, on that at which was the roots of the la long distance regatta took sailors all the way to st. petersburg along the baltic, sea pipeline. to stretch some of the men in the yard gift for should on my good for you. and another stage for gas problem is keep the done with depends on the let's be honest, ladies and gentlemen. the world is played by a whole host of problems. what is this new? sure. the so isn't it nice to have events like these doors showing us that different ways of living are possible basically peacefully and a friendship and then
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a way that benefits us all of notes. putting an extensive mental spin on things. schroeder did a good job and the partners were please, if you have such a precious instrument, you have to protect us from those sites. propaganda is ronald's elements of protection to the states gas problem continues to flex its power, both publicly and on the sidelines. in the year 2007 miller and his team began applying pressure on the next former soviet republic to step out of line bela ruth's city. to august from august, the 3rd at 10 am a gas supplies to butler. ruth will be cut by around 21000000 cubic meters per day, and they don't provide me with an officer. it's a classic russian playbook that you had yesterday said that's due today. and they'll be a 300 percent price increase if you don't pay it. and if you don't pay it,
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we're going to cut off the supply. it's transparent. bellows buckled to the pressure from gas problem was just too great. a medium or? yeah, nice. i mean, it's just that only we're seeing genuine efforts on the part of the bellows to resolve that issue. so we've decided not to restrict supplies to the nearby management. i'm, we expect all gas that's to be settled by thursday next week. if you go to the finish and you're getting the ball ex soviet republics got to feel the power of gas prom at some point the world watched while russia turned one country after another into an example. december 2007, vice chancellor and foreign minister funk thoughts of stein meyer was in moscow to meet him and his chosen successor. dimitry meant that the man opened another b. a gas bill introduced supplies from lucian,
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cover almost 40 percent of german demand in the gas sector. and this is based on a robust and trusting energy partnership between german, russian companies the should remain in place future as a defect in some concern and getting access to the gas feels and not just being dependent on the pipelines was the right thing in principle. but how dependent i'm i making myself in an article stein my are criticized punk boom box view. the latter had warrant against excessive dependence on siberian gas and a new cold war. that's cool. so that led to disputes with mr. stein mind, he said, you know, this isn't a cold war, it's part of for us to politics, so to speak. and i think it definitely we can't return to a new east, west conflict. i just think that's all think it weighs things we need, new thinking gets lost and sacrifice amounts to wish was thinking. and ultimately it's something to attend to a collective denial of right. honestly, there was
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a school the foreign policy that asserts that deeper the economic relations are the more harmonious, the foreign policy relationships are. but it wasn't about a historical disagreement about the power of trade to change. foreign policy was about this person and his policy and the risk that he posed it was indeed independence. all right. but it's the kind of interdependence that you have between roles and she, the finish was late in the united states, has overstep its national borders in every way. and the economic, political, cultural, and educational policies that imposes on other nations, even just the, who's happy about the stores and, you know, one feel safe. as a result. i want to emphasize that. so, and you know, one feel saying that much but not least at the time i wasn't the chairman of the
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conference and wrote to me that i was sitting in the audience listening to and noticed how the german american audience reacted to this all. each with astonishment, scholarship will become, but without really taking it seriously is not about honestly vicky and cindy was the 1st time very publicly at the flat him your boot and said my attempts at being a partner to the west or working with the west. that's over, russia will now follow in pursuit. its interest. newton was still reeling from the orange revolution and ukraine were, politicians were pushing for e u membership is the orange of a lucian. did have a big impact. is that was his 1st major, major defeat in ukraine, the color revolutions for beginning and the post soviet space. and it was at that
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speech of the munich security conference, where he said that era is now over in 2008 coach and was invited to a special nato's summit. as he so often was in the proceeding, 6 years. we went in unless you're going to use the more we will with the appearance of a powerful military block on our borders as a direct threat to the security of our nation is easy with any other claim that this process of not directed against russia will not suffice enough, you know, national security and it isn't based on promises or it's, and that is showing you. what do you wonder from the united states certainly was a recognition that you know, the european union, a native would never expand any way near russia's board is when he didn't get that . then i think he prevented bored to true for germany, stood by and boots. you know, some native wisdom directed against any one, certainly not against russia. russia, as a partner for the 1st time since 1992 boots and allowed a russian nuclear bombers to conduct training flights close to the us. vladimir
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putin began long range bombers flights in 2007. and then he began to demonstrate that there cannot be independent sovereign countries around russia. so it's and supported separatists in georgia with russian tanks. and so for the 1st european war of the 21st century, 2008 was just a greater warm up back for what he would do when you print the test. georgia did not affect the business with russian gas. it's kind of a new job and, and that's what the situation as it was then a country called anti government seriously talking about an energy by called to a boy called fleming. that key because the, the tucked meanwhile in moscow gas problem was throwing another party, marking 15 years as a public limited company. our energy exports, including those to faraway nations,
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helped to ensure international energy security the same day gas problem threatened ukraine and use its own media as a stage to do so. as of to we've already prepared an action plan for tomorrow in connection with restrictions to our gas supplies. i stoked. um you would actually because the message was received in chief nothing will change until ukraine meal before rush out of the election. miller invited the head of ukraine's gas company for talks. he publicly accused ukraine of stealing russian gas. the man wasn't allowed to defend himself. meeting with boots and that the president's official residence outside moscow. miller reported back his proposal for tail gas supplies to ukraine by the precise amount that ukrainians allegedly stole boots and gave the green light. and the plan was implemented immediately. is 80
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percent of rest is gas expos, to your risk goes pipelines which run through the ukraine settlements. coldest day of winter, 3 of those have basically been shut down remaining. it has a 75 percent reduction and i have a austria is 90 percent down the percentage. if someone's cutting the gas off in the 21st century. you can certainly describe it as an act of war. i can't think of another phrase, i often appease this situation is obviously very serious and needs to improve rapidly. these will kind of get used to it. so when you create in story back then the cutting off of supplies raise certain questions about the reliability of gas problem as a supplier. i didn't like it, this helped me understand. i also spoke to alex miller about it because she said yes, it'll pass. i was personally, is there room for mr. miller?
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why she was clearly dialing out to legation ever seen. you want to discuss you telling me she over the phone? i call her there. she fails me. yes. from home. if it is about ukraine putting, besides putting wage, the gas for, with ruthlessness dismissing all the arguments from ukraine to book a cable, mike doesn't matter who presents what i could simply toss all these papers in the fire version of google. what's important is this, are you got good friends, you've no transit nation has the right to abuse its position and take your pm customers hostage and this way with the menu. so, but those need to but the russians are brilliant. propagandists and ukraine did not help itself in those days because the suspicion of corruption was quite high. and ukraine was not always a sympathetic case. and so the russians were able to leverage that to say you poor
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europeans are suffering because these irresponsible ukrainians are not paying their bill. russia has actually been very successful at framing those disputes and blaming ukraine blaming ukraine. suppose it's fast of the gas. a nice thing, but there's a lot of people in germany, especially who buying into that and agree that actually the problems with the ukraine, a transit, a mall, ukrainian then by all russian. and there's a lot of sympathy, i think, for the russian point of view in germany, not necessarily anywhere else, but i've seen it very much here. dismissed all the mistrust with directed the frame and not russia. you please give the ukrainian state. i would like to explain that you claim that despite all claims may find the russian leadership as a solo, a single cubic meter of russian natural gas green on the grow,
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ukrainians put up the defense. the germany wasn't really listening. might think is the does particular of you deals upon perhaps in particular, german narrative piece of your brain narrative, and would you create new some diesel and you can just visible, it's only visible through stereotypes. the he, you eventually sent monitors to run checks on the gas flow foods and continue to feign innocence you know, especially that, that's why i'm asking you to take all the necessary documents with you, including the contracts go with. and we've got nothing to hide. these aren't classified documents, my country, i strongly condemned russia's actions in georgia. we also are very troubled by using energy as a, a, a tool of intimidation on the front again to front boots and began to lose ground on a visit to gas primate to be continued to blame ukraine. to
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give me this may well be that the ukrainian pipeline network is in such a state that it can't pump such quantities of gas. and that's also quite possible. but then you have to be upfront about it because it finally puts in turn the gas tap back on this doesn't have loves to senior dispatcher and gas problem headquarters is asking you to restore the gas supply by others who would shut gas metering station at 10 am mosque out time and if you need a new one or 2. so we've seen this history improvement, got concessions from the ukraine, and government today would not try and push for nato membership. she got the black sea fleet, which was on a lease basis to get the premiums to extend at least 2017 was very clear that he would see got those as part of the gas deal negotiations and boots and managed something else. he kept to germany. sweet miller had made sure that gas applies to
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germany, remained unaffected by the crisis, judgment, germany, and didn't suffer during the ukraine gas crisis, not at all. on one occasion, there was talk of maybe reducing the, relying a little but nothing happened. and relates to the business we've been with this up on the ceiling. that was never a german problem. now when did that to the germans? they do this to the other one. great. we have such a big guess market and the options with most mess with that the kremlin has weaponized energy over the years in such a dramatic fashion or so many times that it is astonishing that there had been no policy changes in the land or in vienna or, or by other governments and in western europe. germany did nothing to adapted strategy. it wanted more and more russian gas as cheaply as possible. so, both sides of we were grateful to have access to russian gas and the gas deal spend on. this was of long term significant. i mean,
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let's not forget the gas was really cheap. if i can make an analogy of this buying russian gas was like going to the discount or out of the. it was so good visual discount id in early 2009 chancellor. uncle americal wrote to e u commission president shows a manual buroso outlining her arguments in favor of north street. secure links were needed. an issue once again highlighted by the ukraine crisis. when it didn't actually cool, there could have been major obstacles to this as indeed there were at times if this of these to see that's why progress was so slow and that's why political support was crucial in europe. meanwhile, gas prom continued. it's e u. charm offensive. new pipeline sections were opened it with great fanfare. at one such event, german e u energy commissioner going to, i think a gave the pipeline is blessing mavita most of the time. and again, we've actually had to intervene and provide support above all politically and
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brussel bite and boost. that's true gospel gas. com didn't do the lobbying work on its own and could. and i mean, it's just too far away. you need european partners. here's your problem. the truly we lobby together, of course the a, lindsey, how are you today? if you want to build a large wind park in the north sea, you'll come up against the similar issues of the day. some are quick to sort out while others will take longer. late 2010, berlin boots and pokes fun at the you and the sluggish progress of the pipeline project. starting at 14, the, which think one thing i'll never understand other, what do you actually plan to heat with that we don't want our gas or our nuclear energy. do you plan to heat with wood?
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even for that, you'll have to go to siberia, sun, those east. what a c sharp from your perspective. this was certainly a hint of all you need me more than i need you to come on the amazon disrespect just seen by so we can say there were sufficient indications that should probably have taken more seriously and just outside the perhaps when taking a seriously off they should have been in the must ask them and was in the us be nice old vintage could be as a dinner date later. that same day in berlin, boots and in vondik met with the ex chancellor at a posh restaurant, owned by mathias bindix son. the each wise that you've, i don't know how many french presidents, how many british prime ministers have been photographed with 2 telephones and probably also in hers in restaurants, which was, i don't know. these are, they bought this debate to say in hindsight, set them. and the last one could have done this or not, even though these photographs showed
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a special closeness of everyone in your office happy that the germans were insuring a high level of energy security. because that was muslim in that easy shot, the government and suite, and then box strongly against is a pipeline to, to the environmental problems and also to, to, to political problems. the swedish military intelligence came out the statement, a warning saying that this pipeline could be used to a spine on, on tweeting this reading used to good basis from the residence of maureen's. they were very concerned about that could happen again, that is a, could you use a non stream, some of the platforms from the pipeline to, to activity to us by on. once we text chancellor schroeder was once again deployed for gas problem. he contacted a man who was once prime minister of sweet young person and the old body style was
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one of the 1st top level petitions to talk about the climate crisis and see can be used in 2007. he received a phone call and sorted, i invited him for lunch and after the lunch date and been popular and told that he has now signed to pass on some at the public affairs bureau in sweden link to be on the drum and the child. and one of the ceos of not the gas problem also saw the need for action in finland showed at home. then on a senior finish politician, the they really needed a person to speak in the favor high level person. and they found probably one in cleveland and led the social democrats and been serving as prime minister for 8
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years. sleeping in was invited to vote, and he was received by trainer and much hispanic, the former styles, a copy leap and started working as a paid lobbyist for north stream. you as a key person by meeting called your patients in finland to, to convince them that this is a very good thing for finland and 1st country navy for how is your able to secure the gas supply. so that versus task to convince the finish government about the population to succeed. now that i may put in was able to visit the pipeline construction site in the gulf with finland and show the world he was advancing towards europe. it was very, very clever from the russian side to recruit on the home on the top level petitions and to fill the pockets with any consequences we living in the best way. today. the pipeline project became unstoppable in september
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2011 boots, an intruder symbolically turned on the gas. the germany had finally thrown its weight behind gas in response to a catastrophe that had just the fall in japan. the focus, shame, a disaster terrified not only japanese, but also european politicians into fear of the security of, of nuclear power, the city. and we will completely phase out nuclear energy by the end of 2022. so please don't let somebody know exactly the time we made it clear that we needed to invest more in coal. and especially in gas, this configuration of the energy transition was entirely focused on gas guns of costs. it was that creating an enormous vulnerability for germany entered only
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accelerate the dependence on on russian gas. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome on to the american chancellor at the federal republic of germany. the north stream will play its part in ensuring that europe also has a secure gas supply in the future, closer miracles. along with the french and dutch prime ministers. we're also invited to turn on the tap gas, then flow to north stream, one to western europe with less and less being channeled through poland and ukraine . i would challenge you to find one example of how any of these pipelines or any of these energy deals with russia, made russia a more open, more democratic. it's never happened. and it was never going to happen. and i think that german leaders knew this and went along with it anyways. actually. i also think they knew what they were doing because i don't think you see, it wasn't able to, the peak was green. this fundamental attitude didn't change in
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the years that followed. the german politicians went on pilgrimages to russia in 2019 the state premier of saxony, michelle attachment concluded a new gas contract in lobby as to shoot, defended the next russian pipeline. he left no doubt as to who the opponents were. you should put it to the danish politics has been jeopardizing a timely conclusion for month. it was fun, whereas instruction is already underway in the rush at all. we do finland in germany. danish approval is still pending, but that's, that's a doing mit portage. and that's because of political pressure from the us. and of course, ukraine. oh, you know robinson is a strategic tool of the kremlin in many ways it's how rush says system works in many ways. they're exporting how it works inside russia,
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and i think they were surprised how easily it was imported into the west board seats, a very lucrative contract. when you consider what is at stake, a nation's energy security, a nation's national security. it's very cheaply purchased you have the former econ minister of austria being a senior advisor for north stream to h e. you have former foreign minister of austria care tonight. so with whom i put in was invited to and she danced without her wedding. dear bride and groom, i congratulate you with all my heart on your marriage and the formation of a new family. you have former french prime minister francois fiona, nominated to not one, but 2 russians. data on oil and gas trading firms in the list goes on and on. who to never took as i of one nation ukraine, serbia j,
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auntie worked at the us embassy and keith, and experienced russian influence at 1st hand a fair amount of the corruption ukraine. is russia as an malign act or animal line influence? for example, in the gas sector and ukraine's main protagonist was dimitry fear tosh. the billionaire lives and ex island vienna. he made his money in the gas business partly because gas problem offered him special conditions. demitrix fair tosh is one of the oligarchs, if you crane, he has his fingers in every single cookie jar. he has media holdings, he has energy holdings. he became rich among other things by stealing from ukrainian gas sector and by siphoning off very large portions of the gas gas problem. let him get away with fear. tasha is always denied any wrong doing us authorities want is extradition from austria. demetrius here,
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tosh has been indicted by the us government for bribery schemes. he has extremely strong connections to russian, organized crime and to persian. aren't you afraid if you want to the economy? don't be afraid of piece. fear tosh had found it a company with russian partners gas problem had over $160.00 subsidiary companies. money to move around, change hands and, and you'd never be the wiser as to where it went. in my estimation, a lot of those companies existed so that they could take money off the books and by politicians. and we all knew who was kind, it was established to cut off, wanted to pull the dishes, so they use the revenue from the gas to basically corrupt the frame and take money themselves. yes, that is, that's my assessment. in the early 2, thousands and even beyond that, the way that much of the guess was imported into ukraine and then re exported to
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europe with through a very opaque company called russ. okay. and their co, which had russian and ukrainian business people involved in that fear. tash, supported the pro russian candidacy on a co, rich. after winning the 2010 election, he stared ukraine towards moscow. these people had political influence, a new crime, and some of them working in the agents of russia. it was very clear that russia was using its money from gas problem to influence the crating and politicians. and i long thoughts that just like the trading guys corrupted, ukrainian politics. so it would corrupt jim and miracle did not back away from pollutant in russia. and i think that's right to europe and russia are strategic partners that is certainly not yet exhausted. their potential for cooperation, also subsystem changing the constitution allowed food, and
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a 3rd term. we won after an open and honest fight on the day of pollutants and all the ration tens of thousands of people protested in moscow denouncing the president as corrupt. he ordered the brutal suppression of the protest. the west was telling itself its own stories. we didn't want to change our business, our behavior, our agenda, and mister putin kept telling us, i'm going to disrupt you until you take my interest seriously. more and more russian money was being flowed into the destabilization of ukraine. in 2013 the nation found itself in a dangerous crisis. when president you on a co, which had to decide on a rock post mode with the, you know, cover each time and some of which attended a special summit of the european union. it was because uh and you told us the other
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side is offering more your patients thoughts with the your thing and heads of state said to him, a certain limits you won't get anymore. may i fix them aside from the attempt to times on. but i will assign the association agreement. so stuff was about to put one to 2 and the result was, might under that phone or that my, the it was the spark that triggered an explosion. you on a co which was forced into russian x on and in august 2015, i started at the u. s. department of state as european energy security advisor. i took over the job about a year after russia legally invaded eastern ukraine, the done das region and purportedly context. the crimea. the idea at the time was north spring to have been shelves, right? the idea that you would still build up this dependence on russian energy was thought of is, is crazy. but less than a year later, north string to was back in, in the ghost of pollutants pipeline was once again haunting during the contract for
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the construction of north stream 2 was signed in september 2015, which they go kind of talk to you cuz you don't see any strategic trap there. i mean, the current situation is very much defined by the more with the train, which is bad, really bad. they can actually be justified. but i think it's an exaggeration to say that we've fallen into a strategic trap here. you finally get guns of these couldn't patrol shortly before the annexation of crimea, miller visited berlin once again, he blamed to ukraine. does not. okay. you know, she continued is in deep political crisis, but the guy still has to be paid for. and miller had another surprise, obviously, even though i didn't think the jim and he would be so naive as to sell gust from its storage capacity of the assets subsidiary agreed to this trade in 2012 to dance
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. said at that time of this can everything needed to be authorized either the father of the state could have said, no, we don't want that. we want the storage facilities for ourselves. but that doesn't happen on the contrary, because we need it even more in candles. economics minister gap, the approved the sale in 2015 the most we received an increased sharon production facilities who said we continued to expand and acquired more gas feels that was the goal. it was also full steam ahead for north stream to in accordance with the wishes of chancellor mackerel and her deputy shots guy clearly on couple of occasions, souls of dates are which was prevent the gospel inside german ministers. yes. and those people who chopped french people in the trim administer of the call to me that's with me minister and the state secretary. yes, they were very high. the propaganda machine had cut deep into the system
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and commercial was a reliable energy supply or even in the cold war. this is a purely economic, a purely commercial project. you'll find that this, you know, this is a private sector project that i have german interests to represent. in particular, since this project isn't directed against any of our partners. so i'm worried about you trying to get that idea because by relocating gas transit routes pushed through this paving the way for a large scale military operation. that's what ultimately leads to the appearance of russian tanks on the eastern borders. poland, hungary, slovakia and romania boys. the i'm going to fly like you, your own lenient partial pressure. forgive me for interrupting you, but you really believe that's a feasible scenario routine we're going to. yeah. i'd like you to know why didn't say that, because it is true. cost promise, bundled with the russian on it's one of the say, a weapons shortly before coach and ordered the invasion of ukraine north stream to
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was completed. so when is that, and i'm additionally today, the 2nd north stream to pipeline must also be filled with gas sealed. and about 7 months after the initial attack on ukraine, the north stream $1.00 and $2.00 pipelines were sabotaged. one pipe remained operable. just to me, this is what it needs and it appears that and one of the nord stream it to pipelines is still intact. i'm unsure to get the ball is now in the used car to you is the will there with me as well? no later than they should turn on the top. catch up with stuff. good. good on the the
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