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now the steel is backed by 22 senate republicans, but the speaker of the more politically volatile house of representatives has already rejected. the bill supposes of republican presidential hopeful donald trump once it linked to measures dealing with migration on the us border with mexico. an issue t to trump bid for re election. i my new cooper's mckinnon in berlin, and this is the day the this vote, the ace or 70, the naser 29, the bill as amended passes. so today it's another 100 sided, thousands of world cronies, united states, senate democrats, democracy will definitely prevail. thank you. to each of the 70 senators you budget supposedly, while ukraine appreciated chris very much say today we make vladimir pools and
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regret the day. he questioned america is resolved, the president urge to send this legislation to his desk immediately so that he can find it until law ukraine has become paid for foot in washington. the cost of inaction are rising every day. also coming up ukraine's baffle to keep the city of, of these out of russian hands. useful when these are for the they haven't been able to bring in serious numbers of troops because they had some success. but the street they took is a get under ukraine's control. we're pushing them out to what are you. so when you're welcome to the show, the us senate has approved a 95000000000 dolah aid package. more of haul, moving to off of which would go to ukraine. the funding is a aimed at helping keep restore the defenses as it enters its 3rd year of war. the
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package also includes military support for israel and for taiwan, a strategic allies. the bill will now proceed to the republican lead house of representatives, republican house speaker mike johnson, says the house will rejected us president joe biden. this put out a statement urging the house of representatives to move with urgency on the a bill. here's the president speaking on tuesday, there's no question because the senate bill was put on the floor of the house of representatives. it would pass. it would pass and the speaker knows that. so i call the speaker to let the full house speak his mind and not allow minority of most extreme voices in the house to block this bill, even from being voted on even from being voted on. this is a critical act for the house to move these to move. the bill provides urgent
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funding for ukraine. so we're going to keep defending himself against putting the vicious, vicious onslaught. all right, some more on this we're going across to washington dc and bring in all correspondence that benjamin alvarez group. but even give us a breakdown of what's in this bill. so $60000000000.00 us dollars, about 2 thirds of this a package would go to supporting ukraine. the money that is intended for reopening, it says through the purchase of weapons, munitions, but also different support services, military trainings, intelligence sharing. then we have 14000000000 that will go to support israel. bruce, it's a defense as the countries laser weapon system designed to intercept and destroy missiles and this legislation. this is a huge package also would include so many tearing assistance to provide fluid water and shelter for civilians in gaza and the west bank. and there's another part, and that's also very important that has been a debate,
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is it what the us would spend on u. s. l, as in the end to pacific, like how long is too much now? 22 republicans voted in favor of 3 democrats, oppose that. but tell us what's behind this, this overall support for the bill in the senate republican leader and mitch mcconnell, who worked closely with the senate majority lead a tech schuman. and he also praised his bill knows that the risk considerably pushed back from the republican side to continue funding. a ukraine would have the house of representatives that is controlled by the republicans, a republican majority, and house of the representatives that has not passed major assistance for ukraine. since the republicans took over the control of the chamber in january of 2023. and they called knows that and then a statement. you also spoke directly to the opponents office bill a he wrote and a quote history settled, every account to stress that history will recall that the senate did not playing. so what they are trying to do and trying to sell these,
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if the various by part is and support in the senate. but now the important question is, of course, what will happen in the house of representatives? the republican house speaking mike johnson has already said this bill weren't pulse . the house of representatives hasn't paid one a this right. and you said that they will not consider the legislation because it does not include a very important topic for them. and that is it border security and border security provisions. he already costs a doubt on this package. on monday evening in a statement, he said that the border of the united states needs to be secure before sending any type of additional forwarding that around the wall. the position is not new because there was even a boat, it proposed left by parties and board. a proposal was presented by the senate last a week that included both board and 4 and 8. but that was also blocked by republican saying that it did not sufficiently address a regular vote of crossings and we went okay. so as he said, speaking, johnson is linking this issue to the question of border control and migration. it's
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not been possible to get a compromise on that issue so far. why is that? there has not been a compromise, and that's also what democrats are thinking. now what can happen if the speaker of the house of representative actually does not want to put this set on the floor for a vote, there is a procedural menu that, that they could actually use. it's called a discharge petition that would allow the democrats and the republicans to support this bill. it to force a full or vote in the house of representatives. but the question why there has not been any agreement on a border issues. i mean, this has been a very, very big a talking point for the campaign. migration is probably one of the biggest topic said during this election year left on one side, the by then ministration. also acknowledging that there is a problem. and they also said that they need changes need to be made, they set, there is a crisis, call it a broken system. on the other side, we have it, donald trump, who has been repeatedly using the word invasion,
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who's competing heavily on the border problem. so migration and stuff mostly taking center stage when we think about why there has not been an agreement on republicans and also in democrats. we don't have to forget that there are elections coming up in many of them are using that also is it point? is it political points to win it against or political and adverse hours on the other side of yale, we're going to take a quick listen to what the white house press secretary of korean is on p. a said earlier, i mean it is very confusing from what's coming from the speaker. very confusing. he's been very clear for years, even as recently as november, december of last of last year saying how important it is to deal with the board. and we can come up with a bi partisan solution and all the sudden he wants to, he wants to not move forward with the board as we know. and now we have a bi partisan support coming out of the senate to move forward with the important package national security package. obviously that doesn't include the border and he
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doesn't want to move forward. and you mean is that the white house suggesting that republicans in the house all preventing a compromise on the southern border because trump basically needs this as a, as a campaign issue. so there are many of the republicans of siding was trump on a boat and provisions saying that more needs to be done. but what we heard there is quite interesting because it is spokes person of the why does also pressing and saying and putting a highlight that this was a bi partisan agreement from both democrats and also from republicans. the white house also slammed republicans, attempted to impeach the secretary of homeland security at the comfortable my york are saying that they need to do their jobs instead of playing political game. so not addressing trump directly that time. but what is clear is that the by the administration is going on be offensive. now, the asking you talking point is not just one. they want to talk about the border and that they need to be a bi partisan agreement, but also a to press on the members of the house of representatives to pass the supplemental
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bill. a. one of the other points that they also stressed is the feeling it to support ukraine a fight this war against russia would also non to support it for russian president vladimir putin. so we have clear was from the white house telling the house of representatives put this vote on the floor. so that's directed to the speaker of the house, but also to the other members to get this a bill through as soon as possible. and benjamin i did just want to ask you the, the us envoy tonight. so it's saying he doesn't expect to crane to be offered membership this year. what is the bite and administration set on this issue? so it's along sending a position to keep will one day become a member of the us led military alliance. but there is no clear timeframe. and there's also something that define administration has stress. they will look into it. these comments on are coming, of course, into all the comments, referring to what all it from says according to what he said with need or what he said with russia. but the binding base ration still keeps talking with ukraine and
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what's important for them is not just to give them a look into the future. what will happen but give them the support now. and that's also what the stress is important to get the supplemental with more military a to for keith w has been human elders gruber reporting that from washington. and even thanks so much of the city is of these cut and east and ukraine has become the latest all out buffle ground between invading russian forces and ukrainian defenders. russia has made capturing the shots of town a priority at a pivotal time in the war, which is now lost in nearly 2 years. this is what's left of of div. once a city of 32000 people, nothing but rubble and destruction now. yeah, ukrainian defenders are targeting here. russia has lost many soldiers trying to cut off access to the ruined city and relentless attacks and it's still and ukrainian
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hands despite recent russian advances. a diesel, when these are for the way they haven't been able to bring in serious numbers of troops because they have some success. but the street they took is a gap under ukraine's control. we're pushing them out to what are you so when you, why does russia one of these guys so badly? almost 2 years into the war. the front line has largely frozen. taking up div guy would change that for russia. the city is also in the don't yet region, which rush are considered to be its own territory after the parliament voted to an exit. the invader also says that ukraine uses after you've got to show don't yet city just 15 kilometers to the south. russian president vladimir putin as broken of after you've got a non usually detailed terms, making it clear that the city as a priority for him. i'm just letting you know. but what do you mean? one of the most important directions where the fighting is ongoing enough div kind of what the group of veterans overtook our troops there and got ahead of them. the
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dealership was about going over. they broke through the enemy's defences and reached the outskirts of f. d. if got all of them, i don't know, but they captured 19 houses that are holding them successfully. is that going to do with enough to them of the few years really? capturing 19 houses might not seem worthy of the attention of the russian president . but it's a clue to how badly put and once a victory analysts say that taking half div guy won't dramatically reshape the conflict. likes of battle for the city of bass moot last year in which both sides lost thousands of soldiers fighting over revel. looking for a symbolic victory but ultimately for ukraine, it's about keeping its own territory. despite the price by russia, it does everything it can take to move that spring in marina marana military analyst at the will studies department at kings college london and she joins us now
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. from helsinki. hi marina. could you tell us please about the current state of the bottles of these and why rusher is investing so much in the fight for the city? a good evening, anya, well, or we have to understand that a future has a strategic importance for the russians. on the one hand, of course the cleaned up the brand new forces have been showing them that from of the site. it's been a problem since 2014, when the printing forces started reinforcing of the you've got to running into effectively into for address backs on the separate the scripts we're trying to take off the unsuccessfully. so this has been going on for a while, and the reason why it has an induced strategic importance for the russians is because it's an easily defendable and there are key highways. what mean that
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it will be easier for the russians to develop and the concept of word? so that's going from a tourist. now they have to one piece of the puzzle is by which they can use as a spring board. and the 2nd will be the end of the car, which again, they will use to develop sol, so concepts further west. and of course, as i said, um, it has become a very symbolic for the russians as well to get the ukrainians. although, arguably, one of the most for the fight cities. but the situation for the great news now is not working very good because apparently the russian forces managed to almost around this it and tactical surrounding of the cells and part of the dresser remains to be seen. how long the ukrainians given the shortage of artillery shells can hold their positions and can defend of the we also in approaching the 2nd
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anniversary of russia's invasion of ukraine as it stands now, will this will be one militarily, as well. it's difficult to say because we don't know what is going to happen and depends on many factors. what does a military victory would look like? would have to, um, think of some scenarios, for instance, for ukraine. it wouldn't be acceptable to admit defeat. now the in ukraine support is european countries in united states. um, the united kingdom said to really have a plan per se. what this military victory would look like for either side of the goals outlined by ukraine to retake all the territories and go back to the borders of 1991, which would include well, seems very unrealistic events association. i think what might happen is
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probably a stalemate. the ukraine doesn't receive any more help or any more substantial health, which will help it defend off the russian advances. and we also have to think about the change in command and general service. you might have a different approach from what generals who need it have. we also have to think about the mobilization rule, which is becoming very popular. st brain is suffering not only from a munition shortages, but also it's affecting the routes of troops as well as the number of capable troops who can fight on the battlefield. so those factors um could possibly signifies that there might be some sort of a stalemate at some point where they have, they will, they will have to be at the pool maddox solution to this. the us senate has a pos to build promising another $60000000000.00 in
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a to ukraine. the house of representatives has to vote on that. now, can you give us a sense of what difference, what difference would guessing that money or not guessing it made to ukraine to well, we have to in the stands of the united states. now talking, not as a percentage of their gdp has been the major provider of military aid to ukraine. meaning that if the united states were not the, the house of representatives were to turn down. that bill from ukraine would suffer greatly because the european countries with their own sluggish defense industry simply cannot fill the gap. that means that for you create an even if there are flashes to provide more and munition and more military aid in general. this will be taking years and time is of athens specifically time on the technical
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level which runs very fast and you create a need set 8. now, if the united states were at the house of representatives, were to pass that bill, indeed it would provide a portion of help to ukraine. but again, the ukraine needs a long term support site. that short term injection of funds will certainly help you prayed militarily, but it will not dramatically changed education if we don't know how this will unfold in the future and was upcoming us presidential elections. there is a lot of uncertainty in terms of any help to ukraine. east for so long me. marina, you mentioned european countries. sluggish defense industry. the head of the german homes, manufacturer of unmet ties, says europe needs another 3 to 5 years to replenish it's munition stokes 10 years
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before it's really ready to face an aggressive. what does that tell us about europe's capability of supporting ukraine even defending itself? if the us is out of the equation, we just have to look at numbers in terms of production. what's the rush? it produces even in terms of um, artillery shelves. and i think it's, i think to about a $4500000.00 shells a year. that is much more a 7 bought the european countries counting for use altogether, and there were talks about $24.00 to $1000.00 shells a month, a say in terms of capabilities of it. russia seems to be outgoing euro quite literally. and even so, united states doesn't have that production capacity. and especially for year of what is important to understand is that every country, because these countries are democratic, they have to see and how the,
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the defense spending is allocated. and what industries meaning that europe has an even development when it comes to defense spending and then when it comes to priorities and even when it comes to disrupt perception will also help you understand that europe is also dependent on the commercial production market. and there is not as much support in europe for arms manufacturers as, let's say, in the united states. and that means that a european governments will be placing orders to companies like crime at all. and they will be waiting in queue until these orders can be fulfilled. and again, we have to think about the global supply chain, which is also driving the prices up and says, and prices for um, artillery shells house, which rippled meaning that today, firstly,
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there needs to be more money. secondly, it is taking time. and certainly nato's own stocks need to be replenished, which breaks me to the point that a, i don't think that europe at this stage is in any position to offer long term support to ukraine. and the one thing is that you create a require that moreno thanks those of us here, analysis those marina and their own from king's college london. some 10000 migraines has arrived on spain's canary islands. so fall this year, and most of them crossing from la retain in last week. your opinion in spain pledge 210000000 euros to help maurice ania pump down on smugglers and to to migrant boats . and the canary islands are a 1st destination. so people trying to reach continental europe, numbers of those attempting, the dangerous atlantic crossing, offering. so to the number of those who die,
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dw is young. phillip shots reports now from las palmas, and no gun on ground. canaria a small cemetery on the canary islands, blank spaces stand out between the other plaques, no name, no epitaph. these are the graves of unknown african migrants there. now, so many of these that the cemetery has had to expand. mo, do often comes here. he survived the crossing from san diego, but many people he knows didn't. a good friend has been missing for 3 weeks. as the boy say to me, and this could be him, or anyone else around me who has died for this. that's why i always feel incredibly sad when you hear so well. the model may seem to submit to the state the number of migrants who have made it to the canaries. is that an all time high? but so 2 is the number of those who have died attempting the crossing few carry any documents,
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so it done to find them is difficult. the requires all recovered bodies to be identified and properly buried. but in reality, this rarely happens. bronco get a manager's the cemetery in this small community. he feels abandoned by his government. he says he gets no help and giving the migrants a dignified burial. it's just a number point in the let's finish when we take the phone and call some of the read or add to this. who very are government. they will say don't worry. we'll see. don't worry, we'll see it. but we don't have any solution there. only a few experts on the island who can help indemnify the many dead. heavy as happy as a pathologist, he and his team gather d n. a samples, dental analyses and photos of the deceased. their final report as often as far as they get to us as the past months have been exceptionally hard. what are
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the disease that i'm not much the worst or the autopsies of small children in your yeah, this is really difficult to process emotionally. you know, you feel terrible and you just want to cry for a day or 2. it's actually quite traumatic to be confronted with all the people and what's going on in mode who continues to search for more information about his missing friend, his relatives, and send a go keep asking him for news via what's up. they've given up hope of getting information through official channels. is the us out. but again, i'm at my wits and his wife and his young daughter are waiting for news speaking. no, said on this, and i don't know who to turn to. we just want to know if he's still alive, or if he died, when to maybe america will happen, says moto,
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