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now the steel is backed by 22 senate republicans, but the bigger of the more politically volatile house of representatives has already rejected. the bill supposes of republican presidential hopeful donald trump once it linked to measures dealing with migration on the us border with mexico. an issue t to trump bid for re election. i'm a new cooper's mckinnon in berlin, and this is the day the this vote, the 8th or 70, the naser 29. the bill as amended passes to today if another 100 side of the world around the united states senate democrats, democracy will definitely prevail. thank you. to each of the 70 send that just a few functions positively. while ukraine appreciated chris very much say, today,
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we make vladimir pools in regret. the day he questioned america is resolved. the president urge to send this legislation to his desk immediately so that he can find it into law. ukraine has become faithful for in washington. the cost of inaction are rising every day. also coming up ukraine's baffles that keep the city of, of these out of russian hands of useful when these are for the way they haven't been able to bring in serious numbers of troops because they had some success. but the street they took is a get under ukraine's control. we're pushing them out to what are you so when you're welcome to the show, the us senate has approved a 95000000000 dolah aid package, more pulse move and half of which would go to ukraine. the funding is aimed at
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helping keep restore the defenses as it enters its 3rd year of war. the package also includes military support for israel and for taiwan, a strategic allies. the bill will now proceed to the republican lead house of representatives, republican house speaker mike johnson, says the house will rejected us president joe biden. this put out a statement urging the house of representatives to move with urgency on the a bill. here's the president speaking on tuesday, there's no question because the senate bill was put on the floor and the house of representatives it would pass. it would pass and the speaker knows that. so i call the speaker to let the full house speak his mind and not allow minority of most extreme voices in the house to block this bill, even from being voted on even from being voted on. this is a critical act for the house to move in these the moving the bill provides urgent
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funding for ukraine. so we're going to keep defending himself against putting the vicious, vicious onslaught. all right, some more on this we're going across to washington dc and bring in all correspondence that been human alvarez group but even give us a breakdown of what's in this bill. so $60000000000.00 us dollars, about 2 thirds of this a package would go to supporting ukraine. the money that is intended for reopening, it says through the purchase of weapons, munitions, but also different support services, military trainings, intelligence sharing. then we have 14000000000 there with go to support israel. bruce, it's a defense as the countries laser weapon system designed to intercept and destroy missiles and this legislation. this is a huge package also would include so many tearing assistance to provide fluid, water and shelter for civilians and gaza, ends in the west bank and does another part. and that's also very important that has been a debate. is it what the us would spend on your guys allies in the,
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in the pacific life, how long is too much now? 22 republicans voted in favor of 3 democrats. oppose that. but tell us what's behind this, this overall support for the bill in the senate republican leader and mitch mcconnell, who worked closely with the senate majority lead a tech schuman. he also praised his bill knows that the risk considerably pushed back from the republican side to continue funding a ukraine. we have the house of representatives that is controlled by the republicans, the republican majority, and house of the representatives that has not passed major assistance for ukraine since the republicans took over the control of the chamber. in january of 2023. nicole knows that and in a statement you also spoke directly to the opponents of his bill, he wrote, and i quote, history settled every account to stress that history will recall that the senate did not playing so what they are trying to do and trying to sell these,
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if the various by part is and support in the senate. but now the important question is, of course, what will happen in the house of representatives? the republican house speaking mike johnson has already said this bill weren't pulse, the house of representatives hasn't paid. why don't a this right and you said that they will not consider the legislation because it does not include a very important topic for them. and that is it border security and border security provisions. he already costs a doubt on this package. on monday evening in a statement, he said that the border of the united states needs to be secure before sending any type of additional forwarding that around the world. the position is not new because there was even a boat, a proposed lot by parts and board. a proposal was presented by the senate last week that included both board and 4 and 8. but that was also blocked by republican saying that it did not sufficiently address a regular vote of crossings and we will. okay. so as he said, speaking, johnson is linking this issue to the question of border control and migration. it's
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not been possible to get a compromise on that issue so far. why is that? there is often a compromise, and that's also what democrats are thinking. now what can happen if, if the speaker of the house of representative actually does not want to put this set on the floor for a vote, there is a procedural menu that, that they could actually use. it's called a discharge petition that would allow the democrats and the republicans to support this bill. it to force a full or vote in the house of representatives. but the question why there has not been any agreement on a border issues. i mean, this has been a very, very big a talking point for the campaign. migration is probably one of the biggest topic said during this election year, we have on one side the by then ministration. also acknowledging that there is a problem. and they also said that they need changes need to be made. they set, there is a crisis, call it a broken system. on the other side, we have donald trump, who has been repeatedly using the word invasion,
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who's company heavily on the board, a problem. so migration and stuff mostly taking center stage when we think about why there has not been an agreement on republicans and also in democrats. we don't have to forget that there are elections coming up in many of them are using that also is it point? is it political points to win against or political and adverse hours on the other side of yale? we're going to take a quick listen to what the white house press secretary of korean is on p. a said earlier, i mean it is very confusing from what's coming from the speaker. very confusing. he's been very clear for years, even as recently as november, december of last of last year saying how important it is to deal with the board. and we can come up with a bi partisan solution and all the sudden he wants to, he wants to not move forward with the board as we know. and now we have a bi partisan support coming out of the senate to move forward with a important package national security package. obviously,
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that doesn't include the border and he doesn't want to move forward. then you mean is that the white house suggesting that republicans in the house or preventing a compromise on the southern border? because trump basically needs this as a, as a campaign issue. so there are many of the republicans, a citing was trump on a boat and provisions saying that more needs to be done. but what we heard there is quite interesting because it is spokes person of the why does also pressing and saying and putting a highlight that this was a bi partisan agreement from both democrats and also from republicans. the white house also slammed republicans, attempted to impeach the secretary of homeland security at a comfortable my york are saying that they need to do their jobs instead of playing political games. so not addressing trump directly that time. but what is clear is that the by then ministration is going on. be offensive. now, the asking you talking points, not just when they want to talk about the border and that they need to be a bi partisan agreement, but also a to press on the members of the house of representatives to pass the supplemental
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bill. a one of the other points that they also stressed is a feeling it to support ukraine. a fight this war against russia would also non to support it for russian president vladimir putin. so we have clear was from the white house telling the house of representatives put this vote on the floor. so that's directed to the speaker of the house, but also to the other members to get this a bill through as soon as possible. and benjamin i did just want to ask you the, the us envoy tonight. so its saying he doesn't expect to crane to be offered membership this year. what is the bite and administration set on this issue? so it's a long standing, a position to keep will one day become a member of the us led military alliance, but there is no create timeframe and that's also something to define. and ministration has stress. they will look into it. these comments on are coming, of course, into other comments, referring to what followed from says according to what he said with need of what he said with russia. but the binding base ration still keeps talking with ukraine and
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what's important for them is not just to give them a look into the future. what will happen but give them the support now. and that's also what the stress is important to get the supplemental with more military a to for keith. the w's, benjamin elder, is group a reporting that from washington. benjamin, thanks so much of associate is of these good and east and ukraine has become the latest all out buffle ground between invading russian forces and ukrainian defend is russia has made capturing the shots of town a priority at a pivotal time in the war, which is now lost in nearly 2 years. this is what's left of of div. once a city of 32000 people, nothing but rubble and destruction now. yeah, ukrainian defenders are dug in here. russia has lost many soldiers trying to cut off access to the ruined city and relentless attacks and it's still and ukrainian
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hands despite recent russian advances. a diesel one is a for the way they haven't been able to bring in serious numbers of troops because they have some success. but the street they've chuck is a gap under ukraine's control. we're pushing them out to what are you so what yeah . but why does russia one of these guys so badly, almost 2 years into the war, the front line has largely frozen. taking up div guy would change that for russia. the city is also in the don't yet region, which rush are considered to be its own territory after the parliament voted to an exit. the invader also says that ukraine use us after you've got to show don't yet city just 15 kilometers to the south. russian president vladimir putin, this broken investigative, got a non, usually detailed terms, making it clear that the city as a priority for him. i'm always very nice. but any one of the most important directions where the fighting is ongoing. and after you've got
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a group of veterans overtook our troops there and got ahead of them. did you? not sure if it was a broken no, they broke through the enemy's defences and reached the outskirts of f. d. i don't know, but they captured 19 houses that are holding them successfully. is it going to do nothing? then with the feeling usually capturing 19 houses might not see more of the of the attention of the russian president. but it's a clue to how badly put and once a victory, analysts say that taking half div guy won't dramatically reshape the conflict. like the battle for the city of bass moved last year in which both sides lost thousands of soldiers fighting over russell, looking for a symbolic victory. but ultimately, for ukraine, it's about keeping its own territory. despite the price by russia, it does everything it can take to move that spring in marina marana military analyst at the will studies department at kings college london,
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and she joins us now from helsinki. hi marina. could you tell us, please about the current state of the bottles of these and why rusher is investing so much in the fight for the city a good evening on your well, or we have to understand that a future has a strategic importance for the russians on the one hand, of course, the cleaned up the brand new forces have been showing them that from of the site. it's been a problem since 20141. the praying for us is started reinforcing of the of got to running into effectively into fortress facts on the software. the scripts we're trying to take up the you've got unsuccessfully. so this has been going on for a while, and the reason why it has an induce strategic importance for the russians is because it's an easily dependable and there are key highways. what mean that
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it will be easier for the russians to develop the concept of word? so that's going from a tourist. now they have to one piece of the puzzle is by which they can use as a spring board. and the 2nd will be the end of the you've got, which again they will use to develop sol, so concepts further west. and of course, as i said, um, it has become a very symbolic for the russians as well to get the ukrainians. although, arguably, one of the most for the fight cities, but the situation fully ukrainians now is not working very good because apparently the russian forces managed to pull most around its it and tactical surrounding of the solid and part of the dresser remains to be seen. how long the ukrainians given the shortage of artillery shells can hold their positions and can defend of the we also in approaching the 2nd, none of us free of brushes,
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invasion of ukraine as it stands now, will this will be one militarily, as well. it's difficult to say because we don't know what is going to happen and depends on many factors. what task military victory would look like. would have to think of some scenarios, for instance, for ukraine. it wouldn't be acceptable to admit defeat now the in ukraine support as european countries in united states. um the united kingdom said to really have a plan per se. what this military victory would look like for either side of the goals outlined by ukraine to retake all the territories and go back to the borders of 1991, which would include well, seems very unrealistic events association. i think what might happen is
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probably still meet the ukraine doesn't receive any more help or any more substantial health, which will help it defend off the russian advances. and we also have to think about the change in command and general service. you might have a different approach from what generals who need it have. we also have to think about the mobilization rule, which is becoming very popular. so your brain is suffering not only from a munition shortages, but also it's affecting the routes of troops as well as the number of capable troops who can fight on the battlefield. so those factors um could possibly signifies that there might be some sort of a stalemate. at some point where they have, they will, they will have to be at the pool maddox solution to this. the us senate has a pos to build prompting another $60000000000.00 in
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a to ukraine. the house of representatives has to vote on that. now, can you give us a sense of what difference, what difference would guessing that money or not guessing it made to ukraine to well, we have to understand that the united states, um, now talking not as a percentage of their gdp has been the major provider or military aid to ukraine, meaning that if the united states were not the, the house of representatives were to turn down that bill. ukraine would suffer greatly because the european countries with their own sluggish defense industry simply cannot fill the gap. that means that for you create an, even if there are flashes to provide more immunization and more military aid in general, this will be taking years and time is of athens specifically time on the technical
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level which runs very fast. and you create a need set 8. now, if the united states were the house of representatives were to cost that bill, indeed it would provide a portion of help to ukraine. but again, the ukraine needs a long term support site. that short term injection of funds will certainly help you pray militarily, but it will not dramatically change education if we don't know how this will unfold in the future and was upcoming us presidential elections. there is a lot of uncertainty in terms of any help to ukraine. east for so long me. marina, you mentioned european countries. sluggish defense industry. the head of the german homes, manufacturer of unmet ties, says europe needs another 3 to 5 years to replenish its munitions stokes 10 years
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before it's really ready to face an aggressor. what does that tell us about europe's capability of supporting ukraine? we've been defending itself if, if the us is out of the equation or we just have to look at numbers in terms of production. what's the rush? it produces even in terms of um, artillery shelves. and i think it's, i think to about a $4500000.00 shells a year that is much more than bought. the european countries counted for use altogether and they were talks about $24.00 to $1000.00 shells a month, a say, in terms of capabilities of it, russia seems to be outgoing euro quite literally. and even the united states doesn't have set for docs and capacity. and especially for your order is important to understand is that every country, because these countries are democratic,
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they have to see and how the, the defense spending is all key to enter. what industries meaning that europe has an even development when it comes to defense spending and then when it comes to priorities and even when it comes to disrupt perception will also help you on the stay on the europe is also dependent on the commercial production market and there is not as much support in europe for arms manufacturers as, let's say, in the united states. and that means that a european governments will be placing orders to companies like crime at all. and they will be waiting in a long queue until these orders can be fulfilled. and again, we have to think about the global supply chain, which is also driving the prices up and says, and prices for um, artillery shells house, which rippled meaning that today. firstly,
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there needs to be more money. secondly, it is taking time. and certainly nato's own stocks need to be replenished, which breaks me to the point that a, i don't think that europe at this stage is in any position to offer long term support to ukraine. and the one thing is that you create a require that a moreno, thanks. those of us here, analysis less marina and their own from king's college london. some 10000 migraines has arrived on spain's canary islands. so fall this year, and most of them crossing for more attain in last week. your opinion in spain pledge 210000000 euros to help maurice ania pump down on smugglers and to the to migrant votes. and the canary islands are a 1st destination. so people trying to reach continental europe, numbers of those attempting, the dangerous atlantic crossing, offering. so to the number of those who died, the w,
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as young phillip shots reports now from los palmas, and logan on grand canaria. a small cemetery on the canary islands, blank spaces stand out between the other plaques, no name, no epitaph. these are the graves of unknown african migrants there. now, so many of these that the cemetery has had to expand mo, do often comes here. he survived the crossing from san diego, but many people he knows didn't. a good friend has been missing for 3 weeks. as the boy said to me, and this could be him, or anyone else around me who has died for this. that's why i always feel incredibly sad when i'm here. so the model may seem to submit to the state the number of migrants who have made it to the canaries. is that an all time high? but so 2 is the number of those who have died attempting the crossing few carry any documents. so identifying them is difficult. the requires all recovered bodies to
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be identified and properly buried. but in reality, this rarely happens. franco, get the managers the cemetery in this small community. he feels abandoned by his government. he says he gets no help in giving the migrants a dignified burial. it's just a number point in the let's finish when we take the phone and call some of the read or add to this who are very are government. they will say don't worry, we'll see. don't worry. we'll see. but we don't have any solution there. only a few experts on the island who can help it then to find the many dead heavy as happy as a pathologist, he and his team gather d n. a samples, dental analyses and photos of the deceased their final report as often as far as they get to us as the past months have been exceptionally hard. what are
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the disease that i'm not much the worst or the autopsies of small children that can you? yeah, this is really difficult to process emotionally. what is that? who, you know, you feel terrible and you just want to cry for a day or 2. it's actually quite traumatic to be confronted with all the people and what's going on in mode who continues to search for more information about his missing friend, his relatives, and send a go keep asking him for news via what's up. they've given up hope of getting information through official channels. is the us out. but again, i'm at my wits and his wife and his young daughter are waiting for news begin. you said on this and i don't know who to turn to. we just want to know if he's still alive, or if he died, where to maybe america will happen, says moto,
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but he knows that for all those unidentified people buried here on the island, there are many more unaccounted for lost at sea. and that is the show for today. you can follow a team on social media at the w news. and if it's the latest headlines you're looking for, there's always a website of c, w dot com. so now from the entire team here on the day, thanks for spending part of your day with us. the
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