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so we can and thank you so much for being with us and for watching the news. the name is the calls back saved loud. thank you so much for joining in. welcome to don't hold a bad a lot of people do that. it's all about saying it aloud. that's what it being nosy bay like get everyone talking to me. you're healthy award winning called called the called back. the
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one i'm trying to call the collab. i see your save you crane risk. you're fond. just say of to the occupation of territories to offer it here. so on and hard to region. we recognize that it's a lot of children who are being inductive for, with deported forcibly deported to the garage or train me or on the the plan how we can return them to your train. so who is this for the right here? you crying to the companies on back home makes me want to cry. when we return kids, we document. this is for crimes because every child is the width
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is oh for crying, the cheeks, the tire pressure. i felt very relieved the since they returned to ukraine 2 days ago. liza inter friends had been staying a few kilometers outside of keys. the exact location cannot be revealed for security reasons. the . their families are still living in the south of the country, not far from the front line project. i'm angry at russia because of all the ukrainian children they could not figure it out a circumstance. i mean,
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we didn't wanted news of going and some kids are still that you do cheese. we can't get them back to do to them. we don't know what's going to happen to them. and can you move something to j t? is this the same as they could be any way? the same old thing which could also save ukraine, is a ukrainian n g o working to help bring the ported children back home it as a team of around $100.00 volunteers the course to be able to time and to use the might. so this department is responsible for the deported children. we're trying to bring back to ukraine to keep them up over time. ok, you know, you're headed by miroslav a. she's a lawyer. us, but just go separate. united is 1st. we get a phone call about a missing child, or we hear about it through social media or are volunteers and then liberated territories and the a couple of and they're not the phone that we then look into how the child disappeared and try to determine their current location to that they know the
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parents or guardians often know very little about their child's whereabouts. so can you please thinking that that's why we try to find out more information the more and then handled the logistical side of bringing that child back up. and so what the history videos work begins as soon as a child disappears, the but how do these children become separated from their families? how is russia exploding the chaos of war to a duct young ukrainians? to find out more, we had to the sounds of the country. russia had occupied part of this region for the best part of the year. in november 2022, they were ousted by ukrainian forces. the show it for you, hopefully enough test on the after the liberation because the russians for
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bombarding it, which i'll research for keith. it's nice here. you have the thing, the sun shining. and so let's go back to that. i still want to go home that alone just let's see us evinced has 2 daughters. bureaus, lava is 7 years old. ok. of the sophia is 15. she agrees to an interview but doesn't want to show her face on camera. her story began shortly after the invasion, when russian forces captured the city of harris on sophia, sophia went to a ukrainian school, which in locally beloved under the patient, it was turned into a russian school. i used to feel for what you ought to do to take them, but she still wanted to go well because it was high school using football,
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allowing them oh sure, let. the teachers offered to take us to a summer camp. at 1st they talked about how cool it would be, cuz i think but then they insisted that we go to washington to refill my small home this month cause the issue. what are they said? we could fake our parent's signature, but they didn't want to sign. it is sort of what he wants you to into the but they said we'd be gone for 10 days. so that is the to, to just today. on october 14th, 2022, sophia enter schoolmates were taken by the bus and then boat to a holiday camp and the russian town up in napa. 10 days later they were told they would not be returning to ukraine way unless it is. we need to, to this little bit when we called the principal to ask when we'd be coming home, start of it. but he didn't answer the phone on to when we tried again and again on the for a whole 3 days ago. and he still didn't pick up on the best thing,
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but don't you put them on before i was shocked envelopes like we all were. so unless you, they've said we realized that it had been a trap, sylvester stick, the one that our situation was hopeless. most of the go to a little schools with those are, is the 1st the principals to topics, choose clock who know senior wrote to me on december the 20th that she wants to come home, which is the don't. she said, you come and get me now. if i, if you are sure, i explained it wasn't not easy and stuff. you can make any inquiries to atlanta through child that getting her back was impossible, quite down to the promotional bullets of the russians then made an offer to sophia and the 600 other young ukrainians in her camp is cuz i remember she said the questions about they said, if you want to go home, you need a russian passport. since you 14, you don't have a ukrainian one. you need
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a russian one possible. what could i do? i had no choice. what was that? the total with the 1st saw? no. it was a little set up to return this few children as possible to that parents were going to be, you know, down to about the, i don't not see a left house on, on october the 14th and already had a russian passport on the 25th of how can a possible be issued in just 10 days on the deductible? yeah, yeah. will you call us at this to be on april, the 9th i headed for keys where another mother was waiting for me for you from the week of the toner bus to will. so of course jim knoxville and then some volunteers costs to breast in batteries on fed or whatever we do is don't by the time we
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go to the full address for single and that's quarter boom boom each go to the commercial summit, solution ansible window, the west was being interrogated in batteries and russia, when the, if i had been the people in trouble and they questioned me for more than an hour and a hodge in the middle of the night. it was emotionally exhausting for thought. they asked me where i wanted to go. sure why. the questions were really intimidating. chip it fine. yeah. the show over with you on some of the way to finally i was able to catch a flight to moscow. you a call came to pick me up and then we tried crimea you had to take, but you call that some of the pretty close of the machine. so what do you remember you calling from another 3 hours later i reached sophia 13 the thing and then we went home straight away regardless of here that was on april 8th, 2023. after 7 months in russia,
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sophia was re united with her mother. now the only thing i do realize at 1st that i was leading russia right up to the last moment. i didn't think it would happen and couldn't believe i was back in ukraine. no. so i was always desperate to come back the other day and was so happy which the hi, this is true. i was so happy that we should send you a lie of the russians doing this way. so i guess they want to destroy people with them. but from a human point of view, i don't understand how you can do these sorts of things. just don't get to go. so events, good family story is a familiar one from the parts of ukraine that came under russian occupation. thousands of ukrainian children were brought to what were supposedly vacation caps
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the the camps are part of the campaign of total rest education. daria, here to some truck is an advisor on children's rights to the ukrainian president. she says what's happening to ukrainian children in russian camps. it's a form of indoctrination. could you tell them what they're not allowed to say they're ukranian speak ukrainian or talk about their families for 4 years and you instead, they're taught the russian language, russian culture and history overseas costano every day begins with the russian national anthem. after that, then they'll get moving as a child refuses to stand up or sing their denied food or punished you from below gigi. this video was shot 9 months into the war. it shows young ukrainians from the occupied territories being taken to a rather unusual holiday camp in chechnya. 8 8 the,
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the young people here are given a patriotic, spiritual and moral education. in this camp and crimea, russian president vladimir putin himself gave an address to hundreds of teenagers including young ukrainians from occupied territories. or hello everyone during can by tech, which is home for everyone who took part in our great change competition. we're now welcoming young people from all regions of our nation. see if you end up measures put on the vacation camp, such as these are a legacy of the former soviet union. we were able to film one of these camps from a careful distance a historian who wish to remain anonymous due to the harsh repression of critical
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voices in russia. explained the idea behind these camps who were in leningrad region in the village of cousins this most in petersburg. the summer camp on the other side of that fence was built in the soviet to you with talk with the to do on your parents would send the children on vacation here and pay next. and nothing to parents could receive vouchers at work in order to send the children to these camps . she says they are still more than 3000 caps like this across russia. ukrainian children end up sent as far away as siberia becomes had a military style routine. and still do compact the daily schedules in terms of form and structure of the system set up in the 19 twenty's hasn't changed. nothing has changed. the
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past on, in southern ukraine was occupied by russian forces for almost 9 months since its liberation by ukrainian forces. it's continued to come under relentless bombardment as part of a program of rest, if a cation, moscow, even abducted ukrainian children or from local orphanages. and i mean, when the war began, there were 52 children between the age of 3, in the 18 living here. and that's the federal, a hollow dns stuff, i doc is the director of a rehabilitation center for children in harris on not the most of the children's rooms are on the 1st floor. there is a ticket. the 2nd level,
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this one is for teenagers as the lower boys lived here, just actually be on file. now this is our tree of joy with photos of the 52 children who lived here during the occupation were local. but same stories about children being deported, spread like wildfire through the occupied areas of de mer had also heard the rumors before the russians arrived at his orphanage shaw icon. if i don't hide the kids or we're not evacuated and then the same thing is going to happen here, will to upload, they'll end up in russia a bonus that doesn't mean looked at lee as it was in the store when it became clear that we weren't going to be evacuated and we're on our own. yep. i started
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thinking about how to hide with a kid, some of the some. oh, get put something like that. yeah. so that's a good thing. we had 17 kids in the homes of staff members, teachers and nurses, and social workers across what's happening. but the whole other story to and to be on the safe side, we invented fake background stories for them is also a certificate. in the end, 5 teenagers were left a couple of messages. i'm actually gonna see how much that looks when the russians arrived on june 4th, but actually they were with me. similar the russians arrival was filmed in secret and maybe a little bit more on the video, you can see the door opening it to the footage, came from the centers, surveillance cameras said who is the security guard? let's in to f s b officers and to soldiers. to mask and arm
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soldiers demand to be shown around the orphanage. they want to know where the children are. one of the f s. b officers is seen checking the orphanages records the but he doesn't find what he's looking for the, the, the mirror and the 5 teenagers say nothing. which is because i have to show these kids are real patriots. but the one thing when they didn't want to talk to the russian government, because all they just said they were fine and didn't need anything, because all, and they refused to have their photos taken from the russians didn't take the teams with them, apparently because they were too few of them a few kilometers away, the russians continued their search and the maternity clinic and the children's
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hospital peer to the children were saved. thanks to the courage of staff members, the task that another school does not. these windows look house on to the need for risk. april as the whole, the russian shift to tests from the other side of the stomach messiah land detail and new year's eve. we piled up some bags against the windows. so for. ready ready this baby was born in the 30th week and had a serious pneumonia. we were caring for the baby. all the maternity clinics were attacked by missiles, every single one. and then my 2 soldiers
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entered the hospital and then pretending to be doctors. unfortunately, our head physician gave them a warm welcome thing. a lot of the devil was they told us to hand over a list of the children, so they could be evacuated immediately. but we knew what that would mean. so we changed the children's medical records to make them appear sicker than they were funded. they. we set up a fake intensive care unit to complete with monitors, electrocardiogram machines and all the other equipment even the shoed reports twice daily. that said, the children were too sick to be transferred to the or what it's in that you to hold on to me is leave one every day at the status of my shift. my colleagues would tell me in the hon, david, that the children in serious condition would too sick to be transferred. if our boss had stopped by, he'd have seen through it immediately,
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a bunch of that. fortunately, he didn't come by the boxes. these are the rooms that we put the supposedly sick children need, the risk of the entire team forward to keeping them from being taken to russia, crimea, or even further away that on the screen. it does show both i'm. one of the class strategy was a joint effort, given the position that no one broke ranks, and the russians didn't manage to the port. any of the children eventually have son was liberated by the ukrainian army load on this because we were so happy to see the russians leave. we were a bit scared at 1st and then just relieved. they were gone. we booked
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the many ukrainians risk everything to hide children and for russia, keeping children in vacation camps was just the 1st step the rest of vacation program organized by moscow went well beyond that. the even woodkalski and maxine boy managed to escape. they came very close to never seeing ukraine again. mark seem as an orphan. yvonne's mother lost custody of him. the 2 teenagers now live in the north vintage at the 1st slide because i don't really like, we don't like this guy, which is why we put this on the door at the so designed it so that everyone knows what we think by to couple of my ukraine will when. okay, and depending on the 2 voice story buchanan, mario,
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one month after the war started a shot . this video on march 20th 2022 on the morning after a night of bombardment, which slow march 20th we send out from on. who's on foot reaching this, come at the mongol repass. what used to be a ukrainian check point, but was now a russian one envelope e. and from there we were taken to the hospital. so with i'm really head nurse heard that we were orphan said. so essentially, mrs. 1000 all just a minute to sit up there and because man hush was now occupied was a political party. they called the social welfare office and don't yet i need because we need to sort of by the, on the to the next morning, people arrive to pick us up and get some safety unless any of the
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boys were subjected to russian propaganda from the day of the rab duction, with a camera running the pro russian may or claim to be their rescue or even wearing a medical smocks for greater credibility. what are you listening to the doctors and taking your medicine? yes. then you'll be doing better soon. thank god you got out of there alive. the war is now over for you. your home and you'll grow up in a caring and safe environment. you'll be in good hands as you can get back to your daily lives, including school. we'll take care of everything. and you can reach me showing that we didn't expect that, but now we still haven't been able to recover from mario pub is i number kind of half of sleep media plus both. i couldn't sleep properly and then he comes along
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promising all this stuff, providing a way to success, which they said we could go to high school and just one week's time and promise we'd be in a really nice sort for an inch quarter change. but we stayed in the hospital competitors and nothing happened in showing you insurance. they interrogated us twice because our conversations were suspicious and took up the never a lot of children from audio post and with us to don't. yeah. it's could been separated from their parents and when their parents no longer have custody. missing as fast as a summer. yvonne and maxime had their teacher, anton victoria bitch, to think for their return to ukraine. take a seat in 3 months after their arrival under nets. he picked them up from occupied territory just in time to should be some 60 thank god they weren't taking the russia all the other children were promised
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that they would return. but none of them did. philip was in that group to maria live of a beloved, adopted him, and even boasted about giving him a phone for his birthday. so heroic god forgive me, but i wish she were dead because this is maria level. but below of, with the boy she forcibly adopted killer. and this is her on february 16th 2023. talking to vladimir put visa. i've been visiting hospitals in particular regions, the treating children injured by explosions. it's shocking to head, but they say they were shopped in the back by ukrainian soldiers, especially in mountain you poll real above or below, but as russia's presidential commissioner for children's rights personally appointed by black to mapleton. that'll explain something to you.
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since the beginning of the war, she's made repeated public appearances, an occupied areas, housing on camera, at the bedside of ukrainian children. what's it for? how much? how it will help me get better to live over the encourages of russian families to adopt children deported from ukraine. so this is the final phase and the program abreast of vacation, coordinated together with vladimir putin, which i'm going to do is we've compiled a list of children who already have the required documentation. meaning, russian citizenship plan are the ones who want russian, which means that rather administrative rules that we have to respect to tell me which ones you mean and we'll get around them. customers right now we have to prioritize the children's interest over bureaucracy. 2 months after that conversation, suton signed a decree, making it easier for russian families to adopt ukrainian children. the russian
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propaganda machine immediately swung into action with documentary is like this one apparently showing ukrainian children living happy lives after their forced adoption by russians. was my nice big family, my dad and my beloved mom, the international criminal court in the hague. a choose to maria live over at the nova and vladimir, put in a for war crimes and issued arrest warrants for overseeing the abduction and deportation of children. the which i law are so young and the russian meteor of coal, said the kidnapped ukrainian children. what evacuated as a new blanch of kindness for their own good. why do you know that so nonsense for the old decisions made by the russian authorities to make it easier to change children's nationality and adopt them prove that they never had any intention of
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returning the children in school from augusta, queen's condition. so it should prove that this is nothing evacuation for, according to off, it goes russia, abducted 2 to 300 thousands ukrainian children to the ceo because we have specific evidence of a deep taishan of some 19000 $400.00 children instead of knots at the foot sofa, we finally managed to bring $366.00 of them back home that she did. they philip still lives with the woman who adopted him. moriello both of alova, yvonne who survived the assault on mario paul has been in touch with him. yeah, so i lost him in pain. i write to him regularly. he tells me how he's doing, why i ask how they're treating him, even with them to what he seems to be. okay. but he doesn't like that. the woman works for that guy put in the course. he's staying a beat, and it's still probably ukraine and okay. now as the war continues, ukraine is determined to liberate other areas from occupation and many believe that
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