when the 1st russian tanks rolled into ukraine, germany was criticized for its reluctance to send weapons to keep a country dragging its feet that's become a weapons for ukraine sprinter. after the west, germany is now the biggest donor of military a to keep. but when it comes to sending taurus cruise missiles to ukraine, german lawmakers suddenly stumble. why? i broke off in berlin. this is the day. the, as long as it takes is not enough. the benchmark is what the ukraine really needs on the balance. ukraine is still not receiving or material. it's urgent mean needs to effectively combat versus war progression. germany is his mind. so what it's doing for ukraine's fight but spends about what is the big problem with delivering

taurus me cycles. nobody knows. the top light, the one who has the last edition, and he doesn't tell us why he is really delivering that was the christmas side. i'll say coming up is the large numbers of migrants crossing the us and southern border and how that is going to impact the us presidential election this year. it's almost like they have given up on the, on the visual p are aspects of it. they just don't care anymore. i mean look, and this has been going on for 6 months now. daddy constant and a nobody with lots of talk, blah, blah, blah, blah, lots of talk, lots of media attention to the talk to our viewers watching on tv as in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin the day with german tours cruise missiles. they could be headed for the brand new military,

but they're not today. and germany's parliament voted against sending towards cruise missiles through ukraine, opposition lawmakers. they had called today's vote and they want the german government to deliver the long range towards missiles during your grain, but transfer over shelton. his government stood in the way, arguing that the missiles could escalate the war if you crane were to use them, destroy the targets deep inside russian territory. with germany has become, as we said, the biggest european supplier of weapons to ukraine after the us. and parliament voted to send more than military aid to keep. but the opposition says that germany is simply not doing enough to kind of 8 by the ukraine is still not receiving all the material. it's urgently needs to effectively fights versus war of aggression. didn't. did colleagues of given in coalition, i ask all of you all of you

a not just individuals? i ask all of you to support our motion today and to urge the german government to find the lead deliver tie with me. so i was to ukraine cup i told him, i just want to say one thing, ladies and gentlemen, if you go to the munich security conference, the defense ministers meeting and also those on the nato, the ages security, somebody to other international meetings. then you have one thing again and again. germany is admired for what it's doing for ukraine's fight. germany isn't much for his commitment after being hesitant at 1st. and it's so typical for us that we are with much of what we do around the world. and he is, the opposition is just talking us down to the joint in north carolina. oh, i'm joined now by let's go on vacation and he is a security analyst with the geneva is interpret security policy. he's also a former colonel in the german armed forces, colonel,

it's good to have you on the program. it's pretty clear. i think we can say that the german government doesn't want to talk about tours missiles, but we can, why is there such a clear difference between the chancellor's position and that of the conservatives when it comes to sending tours missiles to ukraine? yeah, 1st of all, i think you are brent or has me on your show. your question is go ahead ca, attendant to the counselor has not clearly said why he would not deliver. it is obviously no red line, but there is some hesitancy to deliver these kind of weapons may move on short describes of problems, visit prep and to find out what the concentrations couldn't be trusted. so now do you live at long range? but i found that has to be a technically adaptive total credit union aircraft that has been possible at least as far as the british and french install shadow and skype grossman some stuff i saw

are about the range of this virus missile is far high up, then the one i just mentioned it is a range of 500 kilometers. it's twice or could strike deeply into behind enemy lines. but those are deeply into the russian. the territories, if uh, these restrictions on the web soft. and it has a very redundant guiding system which is uh, makes it wiper. and a very precise smile that it just resend them to against electronic health of measures which has nights are linked with a satellite even during the flood of which makes a weapon. a prince of up in a position leaving to circumvent. uh, our defense is recognized in the last minute colonel. okay. but there is to in here is, yeah, i wanted to, i wanted to ask you this question. do you think that that do tours missiles do you think that this is just in case of not sending them now, but that they will probably, or maybe be sent to ukraine in the future?

and i will not exclude that this will happen. but at the moment, uh all these, um, uh, data and in quantities of investment, which i just mention, of course, pause, oppose also risk. one of the risk is that the striking cock is deeply into a rational town and tori, correct of cause. a lead story act shows that we do not wish to happen as kind of the toner reactions. it want to then bring up the question was why germany is along the country able to take laura's? then they know care comforters. you ok and of trunks with a g, a frustrating or 5 is the power factor positional in europe. and the question that is all the cause of what would be the result of this with and what, for example, would be used against a bridge of catch up. it is true to say it can strike against logistics off the russian side, but he is also true to come sit the possible risk involved is that and i would also

want to believes that the crushed which is now focus, focusing on one weapon system. the could be the could mean that this weapon would be a game changer. there's lots, we have seen that the skype install shut off. it is on the assets, but a little change of or the house, the bar will be the side. it's all there combined on the approach was a lot of weapon systems a and then as a gradients need most of the cost or any initial appearance of a dr. uh, defense assets and also palm. but i've tried a combat vehicles on the golf course. let me ask if i could get your assessment of how things have changed in the last 2 years. you know, the debate we saw in parliament today here in berlin was about german support for ukraine. 2 years into this, more germany is the biggest supplier of weapons to ukraine, other than the united states. would you say that germany is doing all that?

it can do to help this ally you create are going to give the drilling it does a lot as the defense minister has expand today, the in terms of financial support in terms of the weapons up of don't forget that the gentleman in the meantime has delivered more than 100 tanks level 2 and the but one of the 2 and the dozens of attorney resistance of defense systems, of all sorts of cause all the initial laws of combat vehicles on the ground. that means all i know is it's a lot. and this is what is needed for a combined on specially ripped his fault in real. great. and you should not make the mistake, the belief that one single weapon systems would be a game changer. i think in, in, as far as the german is concerned, a lot of was the live up from the storage. so i'd still have any has, and you are available at the same time,

nature of and germany as part of my i to has to be about the process for like the defense of a l. s. and on defense, which is a competing requirement of yours to provo, to against the industries to work and the efforts which is not just a can be done by pushing about that. that is the process. i want to ask you about what the german defense administer. boy is the story is said today he referred it to the political parties on the left in the far right as being ma, scales, 5th columns. is there any doubt in your mind about the commitment of the german political mainstream, the center when it comes to supporting ukraine? i personally just know though that the mainstream center in germany, that means the coordination of parties and the main oppositional parties would stand as a photo volkswagen to continue or whatever it is possible to oprah. in,

on the other hand, i find is a very extreme, a position to, to tell. uh, they offered a position policies that they office columns of the russian side. i think this is an exaggeration that is due to the police, heated from the data debates. i think this is not the case. i think that these others are, i was, are concerned about the question, who is a green kansas tangible of whether there is a reliable and realistic a victoria strategy or whether the strategy would lead to a lot of suffering. and more loss is on the brand side, is all the shaving words. so landscape says if that is for the beginning of the full territory, the integrity of great. yeah, i think it's a very, very good point colonel of of going ratio with the geneva center for security policy. could we appreciate your time and your analysis tonight?

thank you. thank you very much. we're not well, as we said at the beginning of the program to the russian invasion of ukraine triggered changes in germany's defense policies that would've been i'm think, couple germany agreed to send weapons to a conflict zone for the 1st time. and it's post world history and chance, or a wife show announced a special 100000000000 euro fund or budget to make the military fit for purpose. does this paradigm shift? does it go far enough and will it last use? matthew moore has more now. german chancellor, all off short on his defense minister, preaching their elbows into it. you're reaching the ground on a new i munition plant earlier this month to the right natal site. so you will eventually char note $200000.00 dot hilary shells per year under lightning efforts to run pop production. just as we need this other urgently. because it's hard is

this reality is we're not living in peaceful times. but yeah, many has been on a journey before a russian president vladimir pershing's invasion barrel ends focus was on peace offering kia little more than head gear, nevada phones, 1010. we will send 5000 helmets out as a clear message. then by the side i the since then, they sent bottle tanks. how it says irish t defend systems and more a know the debates is whether it will also send some of its powerful tal risk crews mess. sales russians attack on you claim was a watershed moment and it's forced germans to confront some hard choice for the one, this means the same for the bundle. there's adults for german society, the us. we must become patient as a walk through. the government has cost off on extra 100000000000 euros to bring

the britain this fab back to life. orders are written for new us built fighter jets . 60 come about helicopters under through air defense system fit to guard. the skies of your defense spending is growing again at the height of the cold war, west german spend up to 5 percent of gdp on security that decrease gradually until re unification. in the early ninety's, when it fell off a cliff. no, it's not that 2 percent need to target. and this week the defense minister signaled there was room to grow. was the development of the industry. what i mentioned to that all has to fit together and then we might reach 3 percent or maybe even $3.00 . it depends what's happening in the world and does gemini builds its production capacity and bolsters. it's military. the question know, is whether taxpayers are willing to fit the bill

but the issue of migration is taking center stage in the united states and the run up to november's presidential election. the number of migrants arriving in the us reached a record high at the end of last year. while political battle lines on border policies between republicans and democrats are well established in washington. people who live near the border. well, they're losing, however, there is a political will to solve this problem. w correspond that benjamin alvarez gruber, reports to night from the us mexico border to the california board, a town of yakima hot springs has become a flash point for migration. thousands of people have crossed into the united states here in recent months. many of them from latin america that will come forward at the low book a certain way already. we're trying it to, you know, because most of nicaragua into cross will be address and address. they said they

will send them back. yes, that is why we're trying our luck here. what is will come with zillow? and what's your best guess? tell me that the controller meant that we are here now. suffering luxury, a heal. electra escape with me that you on a border patrol has paused and took children and mothers with them. you know, i don't. uh uh, and i might a, they said they would pick us up in the morning a and i sent the answers the, you know, because of what i meant, they know that they don't mind and i'm, i don't know, i'm for support. most of these belong to you is a helping them warm clothing after a rainy night and food. many had no tends to sleep. and the next step is to wait for border patrol to pick them up for registration. people get stuck here. sometimes these days, usually for only for a matter of hours, but there was times in a little over at least 6 weeks ago, where people here for 4 or 5 days in the same location. sam and his son, john locals, along with other volunteers that have been taking care of newly arrived my

principal months. it leaves me very disappointed. it's is quite frankly kind of absurd that my family and uh, just a group of regular volunteers are filling in this role. it should be done by the us government. there should be the red cross out here. there should be many different organizations, but that's just not here. daily the volunteer scanned the area along the voted for people, the so called cent, judas, brake and gap and the board defense used to pave the way for many migrants. so this is a transit camp that was set up by the mexican national guard that was designed to hold any migrants that come through this gap over here. prior to this establishment, we would see smugglers bringing people through non stop throughout the day in cars, driving up and down the start road over there. they would pack sometimes up to 12 people in a single small you see the volunteers say the strategy of detouring migrants does not work because they will just search for other gaps as the legal ways of entry

a limited sam and john don't get financial support from the authorities, they are disappointed not just with washington, it's almost like they have given up on the, on the visual p are aspects of it. they just don't care anymore. i mean look, and this has been going on for 6 months now. daddy constant and nobody with lots of top, blah, blah, blah, blah, lot to talk a lot to media attention to the talk. but you see anything change? i haven't good news with this group of new d arrived migrants after i was in the cold border patrol came to pick them up. they will be resisted and the decision will be made on whether they can stay in the us, or they will be sent back to the countries to what i'm doing now by jackson james. he's a political scientist and her resident senior fellow at the german marshall funds.

he has spent just as much time in the halls of power in berlin as in washington. and he joins us tonight from the us. capital jackets. going to see you again. this issue of migration migration policy in the united states. if you could give us, you know, really the cliff notes version here of why is it so difficult? why think congress not pass migration re for short answer is read is it's an election year then i think this is i uh huh. issue for both sides of the fence democrat and republican. but while this issue has been with us for quite a long time, and you know that this is a year in which there's very little incentives on, certainly the republican side to win a do a win win with the, with the white house and the senate which of course is presented the bill and it's not working out very well just because of the fact that in 9 months we're going to

be looking at to an election. yeah. yeah, the politics of migration become tangled up with the politics of military a to ukraine. it seems ones hindering the other earlier this month the, the us in the past and a bill that your mark $60000000000.00 for ukraine of the house of speaker mike johnson. he could have called for a boat on that. they could have been passed and it would have been sent to the white house, but the president decided into all that did not happen. this is what the white house had to say about that ticket list. i mean, it is very confusing from what's coming from the speaker. very confusing. he's been very clear for years, even as recently as november, december of last of last year saying how important it is to deal with the board. and we can come up with a bi partisan solution and all the sudden he wants to, he wants to not move forward with the board as we know. and now we have a bi partisan support coming out of the senate to move forward with the important

package national security package. obviously that doesn't include the border and he doesn't want to move forward. so jack, what's the white glove saying there? is it suggesting that the republicans in the house are preventing a compromise on the southern border because they want to ensure that donald trump has this as a campaign issue going into november? absolutely, and it's also a direct line from mr. trump, himself to put on is, uh, is, is uh, social media platform that he didn't think it was wise to accept this bill. and i think behind that is just simply, he wants to run on this issue as he has run about that brought up in 2016 with the same message to the voters that the immigration laws were broken. and the system is, is not working. this is a kind of a replay, uh brett of 2016 ac donald trump. he has stepped up his rhetoric

about migrants and is apparently mulling building mask deportation caps if, if he's elected again, what do you make of that? a spell? it doesn't surprise me. i mean, we're talking about the fact that this same message was, is happening in 2016. remember, they're bringing drugs and rapist, and, and number of other things and criminal drugs. i think that the basic premises is that this is a hot issue. it's going to keep it in, in the front burner until december 5th, in the hope that this will persuade the voters to go with them. it's as simple as that brand. i don't think there's any particular reason to say that one or the other side has been better at fixing this problem. it's been around for many years . but in this particular hot stream, we polarized society extremely kind of election. i don't think we're going to make much progress on this between now and then, you know, for, for most of his administration, president bite has refused to say that there is

a crisis at the southern border. now we're hearing that president biden is thinking of using his executive powers to deny some migrants asylum claims. so do the political issues now, do they outweigh what some would argue, have been biden's humanitarian ones? in this sense, yes, i mean he did agree that there was a law that he could pass to it, contradicted his his previous status, asylum issues or on dreamers and things of that sort. but the factor, the mattresses that he has said, i will use executive authority to close down the border if it reaches a certain number. and i think that that's something that is not going to be easy for him to explain to his own constituency. so he's walking a very fine line here. i'm trying to reach some agreement that might even pass if

it had any hope of getting the republicans to come back from their vacation and to pass the damn bill me. no, earlier this year there was an open letter written to to the president from former peds of intelligent security agencies across the united states. basically saying, we're sounding the alarm that i'm not only are we seeing a huge influx of people coming in on the southern border, but the demographics of this influx, mainly younger, single men coming a lot of them also coming from china, that this poses a unique and new security threat, domestic security, threat to the united states. um, i read that letter, i thought it was it, it was. yeah, it definitely got my attention isn't. is it being reported? and are those facts being reported in the united states? that you might remember that the lindsey graham in particular,

who's essentially a foreign policy focused as senator of, from south carolina, made that point very graphically recently saying that he was thinking that there is a major crisis blooming out there because of the fact that we have no idea of who's coming across the border and as you say, people are coming in, not just from south america or central america to come to a lot of other places. so there's reason to be concerned. i think of course of the, the, the question however is why can't there be some sort of jointly cooperative ventures between 2 sides of this equation. which it both of which wants to solve the problem. but the one of them is waiting for an election to occur before they actually reach a compromise. so i think it's, it's, we're locked in the moment. yeah. i mean we've, we've seen decades in the united states with no migration reform, if there were no donald trump, would you think just say we, we'd have reform,

i've got 10 seconds jack. it's a long, long problem. we had it on the mark on the, on the agenda for many decades, and i think we're going to have it for a long time to come. right. oh yeah. okay. change as always, we appreciate your time. good. seeing, appreciate the analysis. thank you. good shape of the day continues online. you'll find this on x and the youtube bed to the news or you can follow need a bridge, golf tv, and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day. we'll see you then everybody the

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