the, the 50, the news line from berlin. after 2 years fighting all afresh, shows the vision. we look at what could be next for ukraine. an awesome can key of keep up to 5 facing i'm interesting to sure what to do is n z a is from wisdom allies on funding the water efforts also coming up for us to achieve its 1st moon landing in half a century flight controllers. confirm that receiving a faint signal from the lunar south port and the firefighters search for peoples to leasing office of the deputy fire at 2 residential towers in eastern spain,

where it says say it appear the buildings, clothing, fuel the in front of the british front of you, thanks so much for joining us. ukraine remains in the fight, but the war has entered an uncertain phase just ahead of the 2 year mark of russia's full scale invasion. ukraine has been able to put ops to for existence and false russia to take heavy casualties for every gain. but keep now face is a critical munitions voltage. political deadlock in the us congress over continuing military assistance and lack of production capacity in europe are both factors beat up as you can do to, to have an economy poses the question, what lies ahead for ukraine's fight against russia? the only thing we can regret is it, we didn't stop active measures earlier. that means the rule that was,

that it meant persians message their recent interview with the russian state, tv woods. to put an end to speculation that the kremlin might be open to some kind of deal to freeze this conflict. originally, let's say, which is ukraine x, but at london's chatham house, think tank. she says pollutants still thinks he can take full of ukraine. it is clear from boykin's public statements that she's not changing. she's wor, objectives. what i see russia in this? yeah. really believes it has a chance. it has a chance to break ukraine, and they will be breaking ukraine militarily. unnamed russian sources talking about the potential piece deal, adjust to districts and tactics. she says. they also work in the west to actually undermine decision making, to send these confusing messages about the possible ceasefire. meanwhile, not meeting cease fire for them. they would like to see washington actually

accepting uh food instead of tauriel, grab versus victory nav dave, go with the biggest since the full back work last may many expect pushing to use momentum gain to try to take all the full ukrainian regions. he's already formally annexed. that's done yet to hans. so patricia. okay, so it will be easy. ukraine still controls large ways of these regions. preaching may want to push on, but does he actually have the results is taking of difficult construction forces many lives wasting intelligence estimates for the casualties and over 10000 dead, one russian ministry builder. you can claim that the death toll had reached $16000.00 mike martin the senior visiting fellow and was that is at kings college london. he says that ukraine, you know, me, can make russia pay a higher price for any territorial gains. defense is much easier than attack. the russians may well be able to take small amounts of grounds at great cost,

but they don't then it suddenly roll it over and take up his operational desa. and i know you guys know that they need to just move back very slowly. their ability to do that will depend on how well west and support holds up to have got ukrainians were fortunately out gunned $5.00 to $1.00. you promise it's supply ukraine with a 1000000 shelves and a year failed while russia got that many from north korea in a matter of months. well, you can, you know, is now on washington. but i think at the moment we were the little bit of a guy political lighting point. everyone's waiting to see what happens with the us presidential election. thank you. trump wins. we all gonna say, you know, quote unquote the date of the century and from it's going to hand large average of ukraine to pizza in the ukrainians on what kind of the assumption that they're on there right now. so they're doing what they can with home grants, innovation, eating targets deep inside russia with long range drones to fix maximum damage

options, war economy as ukraine and his 3rd year full is trying to take the fight to russia while it waits to see whether the west provides resources have another go on the battlefields and data lose. you can go to see if the kind of a find that report for us. i asked him earlier, hotmail rawling ukrainians, holding up after its troops conceded control of the city of, of div car. look, i think the rush, the thing about idea of go was the date chosen to leave most people here. i believe that ukrainian soup should have lost less. that city earlier should have minimized the losses when leaving rather than questioning the fact the of difficult was eventually left that the rest of the were allowed to come in such a t. it didn't have a great deal of strategic importance. it was basically ukrainian kind of what was going to explain. it was kind of the closest bit of recruiting until territory to the new york city was surrounded on 3 sides by russian troops. it had been for

quite some time. and i think for most ukrainians, idea is basically seen as another bus most, a city that has some symbolic importance that the russians really wants to capture . but it doesn't really change duration on the front lines. we sold off the rest it cut to the bus north, which basically was the last biggest success pre of the if not much changed to ukraine troops still dug in just west of westwood. so i think this is something that let in the future and wanted before his re election campaign, but that doesn't really change the big picture, i think. yeah, if you look around me in here and cube, this is still a country that is functioning occasionally expectations, especially the beginning where people thought that russian troops would be and keep within a matter of days, there is question about us support. can you create and put up a fight much longer if a from the us doesn't arrive? obviously the us is crucial us with an stokes all just on a different scale to any of the nato countries for that matter. so when the us is broke down into an internal political struggles, that is

a problem. but we have seen european countries was that japan, canada try step up, trying to spend more money, more supplies now trying to bridge that gap before a decision comes out of washington. i think brutally, i used to say you create and using those low range drones through tech, not only a rushes, black sea fleet, but also oil facilities and russ try and really deprive pressure of the financial results to keep on fighting this war. and there was a hope pay at that. well, so in the future, the west will allow ukraine to use the weapons. it's already received to strike targets in russia itself. we've had a interview with you and still to go to the general sector of nature, saying that when you create and get those f 16 jet since being promised, it is legitimate for ukraine to use them against targets in russia. that would make that straight and much, much easier, rather than trying to in set to themselves, attack themselves systems on russian territory. that is something that ukraine is desperate to do really, but there, thanks so much for joining us this morning. dw, you can go to chase me kindly, and keith, thanks so much i in the us and the you have all to impose sanctions on russia to

hinder its ability to fund the war in ukraine. but a new report points out a major loophole that still allows the kremlin to make money off to you to or the sales. the doubles brussels correspondent jack patrick has the story. oil tank is like these are still bringing russian oil into the you did the criminal in 1100000000 your rose last year according to when you reports by the n g, a global witness. a legal loophole is allowing russia to sell it soil in the you, the spike to sanction from against impulse countries which haven't imposed sanctions on russian oil are able to import millions of barrels of russian crude oil. they refine them in those countries. and at the point that they've become a refined product, like fuel or diesel is no longer considered russian. and so this fuel is freely important into the european union. they followed oil tank and movements and delved into publicly available russian tax revenue information in the research. the will

is mainly coming through india and turkey, but also the bulk area, which is actually inside the you, when you brought in the sanctions on refined petroleum products. in february 2023. they did so with limited exceptions. one of those exceptions being to a low ball gary, it's a continue to impose were find oil in order to prevent a major economic hit to the use porous nation in the statements to dw the european commission. acknowledge the loophole we do not prohibit the imports of refined petroleum products from 3rd countries, which do not have a russian origin because of the refining process. they said, the 1100000000 yours in oil sales is the equivalent of nato. is we some pledge to spend on, i munition, the ukraine and member states stockpiles. and on the other side, if i is russia, arrives 1200 cruise missiles. the type it's been using to strike targets in ukraine

for 2 years now. the devil of brussels correspond to jack paddic files that, that report i asked him to tell us more about the loophole that the use facing. this is really difficult loophole that, that having to face, which is the claiming that no russian oil is coming into the european union. but frankly, as the report shows that it is there, there are millions of barrels of oil, russian oil that are being refined in the countries that are continuing to be sold in the european union. and indeed, all over the world by the you are paying commission with keen to add that this is part of the deal. this is how this works. one is the oil is refined, its parts of the trading system, the global trading system in oil. and that continues to happen and they also came to impress when we contacted them for a response that indeed the, the g 7 countries. and most of the western countries that have been pro, to impose sanctions on russia, have insisted on a price to try and avoid and try and prevent as much profit going to the criminal

as possible in order to prevent russia from continuing to wage the war against ukraine, but still above this legal loophole is the you're going to do anything about closing it as it doesn't look. so the main thing that they can do is try and. and this delegation, football gary over to live is both areas continue to purchase oil. it was the set time in order to sort of prevent a real big shock in the bulgarian economy and we've been pressing. and indeed many journalists have been pressing the european commission for many months about this derogation that bulgaria has as yet that remains unchanged. and what about the rest of the world dryer? other countries still buying russian oil? yeah, they are not so much says millions of barrels of oil all going to the united kingdom and the united states. but this 1100000000 number for the european union is the

highest and global witness. the who put together that report to sort investigated the, the shipments that are going to the us. and so the u. k. but the e u is the highest, but that also does make sense. the was the biggest purchase of russian oil prior to the, the full scale invasion, 2 years on, uh, since the invasion jack, we have had package of the package of sanctions against russia. does the your think that these sanctions are working? so i mean, that is really the big question. the will rumbles on the buttons continue to full on ukrainian cities. the studies and the impacts assessments from the european union seems to suggest that the sciences are having a significant impact on the russian economy. and they've just a nice and you packaged in the last few days of sanctions, especially targeting additional people that are involved in the waging of the war against ukraine. but the kremlin seems bends on continuing to, to pursue the war to continuing to drop those funds on new credit. and so the

question is, how long, and how much further is your opinion willing to go with science is one potential area that they could sanction the would have a serious, serious effects on liquid natural gas. so a different type of gas that remains outside of the sanctions. positive package there is pressure on the huge science and math as well. we leave it there for the time being jack product and brussels. thanks so much to news now about the war between easter island, from us, the head of the only uh, the agency for a palestinian refugee says the organization's ability to provide relief in gaza is under imminent trapped. there is, there any government has accused equal in law workers of directly participating in the top of 7 to 10 attacks on these various on. it's the side because they're from the head of the one. groceries is driving 16 donor countries to suspend for a $150000000.00 worth of funding. it's a shortfall, the agency director series,

but it's a very helpful operations in gaza. as soon as of next month, meanwhile is rarely prime minister benjamin netanyahu presented a plan for a post for gaza through his account with the cabinet play thursday. such a plan is unlikely to go forward until a cease fire is reached with some us. but there may be some progress there. i must say is it's particularly the inspired honey. i've just left egypt after holding dogs with officials. they're about a possible seas file. and i asked john, this cut him out of the body from title about the reports of the planned truce dogs, which would be held in paris. well, obviously something is cooking and the heads of it's a pretty fair or for how much it's made. i knew it was for several days in cairo talking. it was interesting intelligence and the now this seems to be enough common ground that we have now and announce meeting in paris this week. and the with

said they had the most of the dockets button the and the they had to see a 8 the william burns, the cut, the re prime minister and the head of education, intelligence, a bus, a cabinet. and so the question is, we don't know exactly how the gap we have seen in the last 2 weeks. the confusion was stopped 2 weeks ago. how this gap swift fitted by now, because at that time and how must basically offer it to, to release prisoners. so really sorry, hostages in exchange for palestinian prisoners and most important in exchange for a complete stop, a off of the wall. so we don't know how this gap was really close. we don't know anything about the substance, but of course there is an urgency is rain is announced and defense if i can, the, the safety of the hot ends. we have the upcoming months of, from, of the on. and when we have the situation of disappearing in the gaza strip of semen than the stomach,

what might be even get more furious than it was already wrote. that also appears to be a post war plan for gaza with the east red wall cabinet. what more do you know about this? as well as the bed it's, it's sketchy here. this audio talks about the demilitarized the gaza, strippers. he talks about that. he's really me to tell you, the idea is should be able to move in gaza all the time. free, it's will, he's talking about the that the idea of has some kinds of control. like to watch the jeep. she board the end, he's talking about low key elements with administrative experience should that should to over. and then after all this, there should be some kind of reconstruction going on. there's so many question marks and thoughts about that hosting. and one of them is that of course, if the i that if it's the most and because there will be some kind of part of senior, there is to stage which has been not accept some kind of destroy any control to most of their board or they put the on seconds to camp david to the peace agreement,

but most important, that is nobody until now. ready to flip the bill for the reconstruction. the thing you always seek is hoping that the gulf states like solid. yeah. and the and the, the emeralds. me do this, but they don't. the said that they say that they'll track it to do that. thanks so much for that update. cutting divide. speaking to us from a discrepancy title, thanks so much. you're welcome. and here's a quick look now at some of the stories making headlines around the world. us president joe biden has met the window and door total pressure not position lead to alexa, nevada. the. the visit at the hotel in san francisco came as the white house announced fresh sanctions against russia, nevada. these 5000000 allies say he was killed in the russian prison on president vladimir fulton's folders. german lawmakers are set to vote on a bill that will legalize kind of is it for the law or adults to grow the plans at home and possess up to $25.00 firms in public. the plan to end the 40

a band has faced resistance from parts of the judiciary and law enforcement. so the largest hospital in the us state of alabama has suspended it's in vitro fertilization treatments. it follows the routing by the states highest quotes that say is frozen embryos or fertilized eggs, are the legal equivalent of children, the hospitalization. they must evaluate whether it's patients or doctors could face criminal charges. meanwhile evacuation all those have been issued for thousands of little australian towns. after bush. 5 spreads for the state of victoria in the southeast, around a 1000 firefighters are battling the place. supported by dozens of aircraft, strong winds are spending the fires foster and closer to tom's. display next by firefighters are searching for 14 people still missing. after the deadly fire swept through 2 residential buildings, the blaze broke out on thursday the eastern coast of the city of valencia all

thought the use of sofa confirmed the 4 people were killed and 13, but injured scrutiny is dining to the buildings, construction materials which together with high winds, we have helps the fire spread and the investigation is now underway, is trapped on the balconies cooling. so how the fly is spread in a matter of minutes. emergency services say it broke out in the afternoon. on the 4th floor, the fire fighters rushed to the scene. bringing traps, residents down with cranes and providing inflatable cushions to catch those who had just got to feel,

but they manage to get a father and a daughter out. they saved the guy that started off yet. but the efforts were hampered by the wind and the soaring temperature of the flames, which then spread to a neighboring building. flaming debris came crashing down around firefighters. as they work to extinguish the info, i know no matter what he says, come out of it was pretty wild. how the facade burned, the cladding, that's probably how it spread door to the airport authority, say the buildings external clouding. might explain the rapid spread of the flames. several people were taken to the hospital with fractures bends, i'm smoke can highlight and now it is something that the us space agency, nasa is calling a giant leap forward. a robotic spacecraft built by a private sector company has landed on the moon. that's why it was the 1st controls of defense to the moon by us been spacecraft since 1972 when us as

a part of the program last foot astronauts on the surface. the company behind the mission called intuitive machines, hopes to connect it with the lender, but this is to better understand the do not in bottom and the mission director, tim cray, and say, as well as the space cost johnny is that the end it's work is only just beginning what we can confirm without a doubt as our equipment is on the surface of the man and we are transmitting. so regulations i m team will see how much more we can get from that. let's get more now with leah. i would rush from the the science or any mean the studio? good morning there. this is just the latest in a series of luna emissions that be i've seen why this southern russian fascination to get to the more now. yeah, it seems weird, right? after 5 decades, no one was interested in or no, no, everyone's to go there. yes. like bluray. so typically one is on again, definitely. and the different reason, the reason is of course,

the nation's countries also a commercial excess. they want to go there when to test and demonstrate the knowledge, their technological power, which kind of has kind of impacts also another technical look areas. and another big reason is that there was water discovered on the moon. so that makes the moon and much kind of more promising destination to go to because we can produce drinking water for food trust or not. we can make real good fuel if we splits water into hydrogen and oxygen and then go further into the solar system. so the moon is also seen as kind of a stop to go to mars to go to other planets from there on. they also of course signs aims to be it is to for the discover the moon to see, to maybe install a telescope on the moon. on the 1st side of the moon, to look without disturbance into the solar system to the universe. so the, quite some reasons that make the moon in an interesting place to go. and it's not

just the moon in general, but most specifically the moon south portal, because that is where the dfcs land of this one landed, at least next to it. and i've had a member correctly. so did in dallas morning mission about 6 months back. what makes the cell phone so important of? well the south, the south pole is the place where water was covered. for example, because of the south pole has big craters, where the sun doesn't reach the bottom. so those, the water or the, the ice that was discovered that can't melt and can't do better rate. and that's why we could use. yeah, the idea is to use this water as i said, for drinking water for rock and fuels, and maybe to even build the mood village. so this, this is nice us idea to have future, like a permanent presence of humans on the moon and water is crucial for that. of course mon, before mars. well, that's a bit more about this lender than i mean, what is it going to be doing? what is, it's a aim, what does it need to do? so it's the 1st commercial lender that's supposed to be landed on the moon. that's

kind of a big news. the awesome scientific payloads on board, but made by nasa. one is, for example, of measuring radiation of the moon. radiation is important to to know about it because it's dangerous for a spacecraft, but also for humans like for future human visitors maybe to the moon. but most of the instruments are actually measuring and monitoring the spacecraft itself and it's landing so they look how much fuel it needs for landing. how much am, how much does it raises and, and this is important for, for the technical development of the future. landers, for example, but there are also some kind of other payloads that it could be interesting does. for example, sports where like t perspective supports were on board and also piece of art sculpture as showing the moon. save this, so yeah, because why not bring arts to the white glove verified? if it's an ottoman, if it's a ben, this is this was

a private mission and and the other private mission is that of also being launched into space. is it in intrigues me looking like for the united states that these private emissions are going to be the way to explore space now? yes, so not only the united state is a nice looking into private actors and private partners, but also as a space agencies, for example, the european space agency as well. um, as i said, i had set up a program, especially for private companies getting into move flights and robotic missions. and rockets already powered and made by a private active for example space x. and i think the reason mostly is money again, they want to yeah, they want to make flights to space, less expensive. and also the private companies are highly interested because they see big money coming is what makes for the more and more emissions planned for this year. next year, they definitely more admissions planned, i would say, until the 2030. there's a big, big run planned onto the moon. so, so,

and there's another private mission that nasa contracted with. another company that built the peregrine lender, which launched earlier this year, but which came back to us and burnt in our atmosphere. so wasn't successful. they got a contract for next mission. but let's see if they still trust this company to send their big rover up. there and then the big items program which is also led by nasa is going to head for the 1st bus pound. but they want to, um yeah, kind of advance that plans to make up the move village and the loaner gateway of space station and the moon orbits. and then other countries are interest of china will send and also wants to have human presence on the moon by the end of 2030. so let's see. i think that's a big rush at during the next years to come. thanks very much for that update the address from the the designs. welcome and that's it for the moment coming up next

after the break, we are asking the director of it's tony as intelligent service. it frustrates providing for role with nato that's on conflict. so that's it. for now, i'm bigger strategy in berlin. thanks so much for joining us by the,

into the conflicts own with tim sebastian here at the munich security conference. cuz all kinds of been about russian intentions and russians brands. positively for a war with baycove in the years to come, we caught up with the heads of estonia and intelligence count by royce, in austin, for these expectations off for nato. it is now next on dw, to the point. strong opinions,

clear position, an international perspective. 2 years after russia invaded ukraine, troops are searching while a dwindling supply of wester weapons leads ukraine out. gosh, the west, have a strategy. find out on to the point. to the point. 862 minutes on d w. the nice to be at the end of the world. how's it going to be difficult to access an expedition ventures on to places that no one has the

why is the i smelled the design of the research in the i c d w here at the munich security conference. that's all chris, all being about russian intentions and russian brands, possibly for a well with nato in the years to come. we caught up with the head of estonian intelligence count by voice in his service has been putting out many of the reports that are being discussed. yeah. and we asked him a few of the questions about where the intelligence came from. and what is the expectations off for nato to do about it? rosa and you are the source or your intelligence service is the source of many of the worries that have been expressed here in munich about russian intend choose

long term.