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tv   Mapped Out  Deutsche Welle  February 23, 2024 2:15pm-2:30pm CET

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looks at clinton's wars from chechnya to ukraine, say with us in the past. thanks for watching the clinic right here in chechnya or russian republic in 1999. the world shouldn't have been for us as a signal web disability imaging. what's going there was some remarkable parallels between the wars in chechnya and ukraine. protection now has been largely forgotten . even though that was pretty bad put you into the 1st floor and what really kicked off his political career. chechnya is a grotesque miniature of what we can once the cube, a new frame or so is virtually using the same playbook and ukraine as in chechnya. and can this help us understand what might happen in ukraine in europe, the,
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you probably know russian president, what do you get a fortune is a form of secret service agent. but did you know we actually started his career at the top with the war in 1999, just a month after 14 was appointed prime minister freshman tags rolled into chechnya this is chechnya majority muscle in republic and southern russia. and formerly part of the soviet union, around 1500000 people live here, mostly ethnic chechen. people that has resisted rushing me throughout history. in the early 19 ninety's, the soviet union collapsed. during that time, a political movement formed in touch now of chechens, who wanted an independent state. instead of being part of the newly formed russian states. that russia was simply afraid that this would create a domino effect. and the other regions,
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home 2 ethnic minorities would break away too. so rochelle launched its 1st war on church now. very bloody war that russian lost it brought tales to church now, but also a defacto independence. the 1st catching more increased instability in the region which offered a breeding ground for radical islam is in 1999 a series of apartment bom, based in 3 russian cities, killed 100 and spread fear among the population. the russian government claimed chechen terrorist were responsible and started a 2nd war in chechnya of the who really wants behind the attacks is still unclear. several experts say they were coordinated by russian of secret service. we have a speed to find a pretext for the war. so put,
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you can put later both that he was the one who had restored stability. what is clear, don't look at this chart putting became very popular at the beginning of the war. and he did his best to reinforce this image as being the strong man protecting his country on that he maintains today. and he was elected as president a couple of months later. teaching labeled the war in chechnya as a counter terrorist operation aimed at fighting is limits. extremism. i've been judging that which doesn't mean you to that even though the 911 terror attacks and the us made it easier for protein to sell. the narrative of fighting extreme is in church now. there were indeed several deadly ism of terror attacks and russia in the early 2,
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thousands. but what's the catching more really about fighting terrorism? we'll get to that. let's look at ukraine now. ukraine used to be a so good republic. so i'm like, chechnya ukraine became independent when the soviet union collapsed, but it's still have close ties to russia. overtime ukraine began moving away from russia and it's fear of influence and closer to the european union and nato, the food you hated that. he refused to accept ukraine as a separate entity, 1st, illegally amex and crimea, in 2014 and inciting a war in eastern ukraine, them in 2022, launching an o out invasion. this is chechen of capital, grossly. thousands of civilians were killed when russian forces seize the city.
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limits the united nations later called girls me the most destroyed city on earth. the and here's money you for it in eastern ukraine, after russia's forces occupied the city in 2022. after a 3 months each almost all residential buildings were destroyed. the ukrainian sources say more than 20000 civilians were killed and menu port when um, they kept the images from your brain after wallace struggle to differentiate between the 2. and that it was a horrifying realization. but sometimes i couldn't tell which one was brought me and which one was like the same way. you like the nice to meet of a witness, the worrying girl is me as a child. now look at this suburb of gross me. nobody oh,
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the person forces around a so called cleansing operations here and reportedly executed at least 6 the civilians in one day. that reminds us of the horrors of boucher which we saw at the beginning of the war against a crane there on the outskirts of the capital t is russian soldiers loaded houses, tortured, raped, and killed civilians. the beaming ships now bore in ukraine, the war problems that we see, the human rights violations. they will not sign the size of the war, but they are indeed an incremented element all the rest. and we'll say, that's russia expert, that'd be efficient boats and catch, you know, and ukraine pushing failed to achieve his initial goal,
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a swift victory. so he's essentially using brute force to compensate for miscalculations and warfare such as not expecting resistance. pushing is using the same approach as he did in his 1st more in chechnya says, researcher james mickland toxic case, you love that if you face resistance you should shift the indiscriminate arrow bombardment and shedding to destroy that resistance. this is destruction that carries no direct me that you need. it's reflect a complete disregard for the lives of civilians. is the russian way of wars, especially brutal? we asked, does that mean official with just covers the book about putting floors? the why is this something that you in was conducted by
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democrats and countries have done, but they are visions in russia. these go crimes are systemic, and they are really an instrument in the war consciously applied by the russian machine. and this violence continues indicated, regions look at what happened after detection war was officially over the ones were meaning, you are living, you know, pretty much open present. not is to meet about, knows what she's talking about. her mother and natalia was an internationally renowned human rights activist. she was gathering evidence on human rights abuses in chechnya when she was shot dead the human rights organization that's natalia, worked with claims and i'm due to a force behind this. he is charging us ruler and known for his brutality
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tended us was installed by pushing in the wake of the chechen war in order to bring the republic under full control. so this kind of deal between moscow, friends i've had 0. interesting. yeah. the establishment of these pop up regions in the occupied territories. that clearly something that also tells us important things about the future of the subject by territories. this is what i mean official is talking about. this russian map shows these you print in territories as russian almost 20 percent of ukraine is illegally occupied by russia. what pushing the teeth with cadets in chechnya, he's not trying to do in russian occupied ukraine with these kremlin friend. the leaders it was, it was she was against you then? yes, it was showing you some of it. and i seen you guys lips remember
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how devastating the destruction was and matthew point eastern ukraine. well, how soon the occupiers quickly started transforming the city also the and look at all these newly built apartment blocks it seems as if the russian has during the same here as in chechnya, more than 20 years ago. rebuilding the city to make people quickly forget what happened the but how do you achieve this? well, he no controls any kind of information and repressed his opposition. during the 1st touching more,
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the russian public knew what was happening. and many russians were against. it appears in love the lessons of the foss, chechen, which was to keep the media out of yeah, to force him to control the employer and outside of the information. he has ramped up propaganda throughout the years. and since the full scale invasion of ukraine repressive last criminalized any kind of critical journalism about russia's war, the same now goes for the russian occupied territories of ukraine. so we see there's certainly a playbook that poochie and has been using throughout the wars and checking out and ukraine, certain tactics, using sheer brutality to pressure, any resistance, even though it's a way of making up for initial miscalculations that can you crane ramping up repressions to control the feed agents and hiding that with massive propaganda and censorship. these are the similarities. but what is different between the 2 wars
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is the international reaction. all the fatality of proteins more in chechnya didn't really lead to any knock back for the kremlin. those this really famous example of in the same night when tony blair, the former prime minister of the, you, k, was the oprah or with with him, there was a big one big be grossly there is who remained ignorant of what happened in chechnya. and they wanted to be a current event because it didn't, it's of interest to full out. was russia too much thought to western ignorance was also in display when russia invaded georgia in 2008, and then supported the syrian dictator us up in his war. but that changed with rush of full scale invasion of ukraine in 2022. the world was shocked,
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and there was an unprecedented amount of solidarity ukraine, exciting or crying on to cutting natural crane grades. these countries are supporting you. crane with weapons and humanitarian aid. after 2 years of all of the war, western support seems to be waning. but you print is still asking for more weapons and ammunition to regain its territory. we saw rushes and adopt is tucked, takes just like it didn't just now. i'm not staying a longer game and is waiting for the west to get boats to get bored in ukraine. just like many of the douglas west. and douglas footboard is covering things in just now. and if the west or skip was and a fusion does, can subjugate ukraine, the will continue to see this box and repeat it until or an o until somebody stops it, or until it's too late, which is playbook from his war in chechnya has shown he wants victory at any cost
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just political career began with the war in chechnya. and the question is, will it ends with the war in ukraine? the, let me tell you something, folks, my life could be so simple. if it works well, these darn adults, mom and dad are ok. they just want me to be healthy. the ground wants to dictate when i sleep, the neighbor knows exactly what i should be eating. and he says a stricter upbringing will be good for me. and the guy on the tip top goes on and on about my optimal work out. who should i believe? what's fact, what's fiction? some adults out there must have some answers. maybe the ones on in good shape.

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