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a very warm welcome to peace and peace is the future of this rarely palestinian relations town hall. this is a special edition of conflict. so in coming from to you from the munich security conference, our conversation will begin with the palestinian prime minister. thank you very much for your time this morning. and then we will open up to a high level panel who will be joining us here on the stage. the house, the meantime minister mohammed s t. i thank you so much for joining us on conflicts on here from the munich security conference. thank you for having me. more than 28000 haven't killed in gaza, more than 11000 of them children, according to the cause of health ministry. is it time for him loss which many countries around the world continue to consider to be a terrorist organization to release the remaining hostages and try and bring an end to this conflict by. busy means or our eyes are focused on the sufferings of that,
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but a scene ends both and goes through been in the west bank. and what is immediately needed is a ceasefire. and what is more needed is to allow international aid to get into goes on up on the one that's one thing. good and 3 bucks through or the entries that are there. as the writer said, not only 20000 but as seen as have been can. but also 70000 by the seen as have been injured to 151000 ballasting in the homes have been destroyed between the body shop, destruction and complete destruction. but also 1700000, but as seen as have been pushed out of their homes into one st. good. joe could also get that squared that also area. and nowadays that i, the out of me is intending to encourage and pull it off. so, or what we need now is an immediate cease fire, and allow international aid to get into gas. let's talk a little bit more about those prospects because the president must buddha boss, called on her mazda this week to complete
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a deal quickly. and i'm quoting here to spare the palestinian people suffer him. do you think that a mosque harris with a boss of the p a has to say, you think they're listening? our president is the presidents awards that but experience of course. and we do good for our people and we would like to see an end to this at the rest of this, we would like to see the release of the order the hostages. and we would like to see indeed that is that in the make and as soon as possible, because every single day that is delayed, it means more killings. it means more sal findings and it means more disaster for the people. all eyes are on or off or right now, as you've highlighted, there's been months of speculation that the as rarely invasion of gaza could end with millions being pushed into egypt. the latest reports are saying that egypt is actually building an. busy of enclosure along the border, we heard from the egyptian foreign minister yesterday, he said that they are preparing safe areas for refugees. do you know what's going
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on there? others, are they talking with you or they coordinating with us? first of all, the egypt is not going to allow anybody to across the board. us. second, do you are right. that, are you sure about that? is that going to hold? it looks like they're preparing some say yes, we are sort of, i was of egypt is not going to allow, but a scene is to enter into the egyptian category. we don't want, but it's danielle to move from goes to the into egypt the even though there is and he's like the program to really push, but it's danielle just out of goes to that in an attempt to be happy with it, but a scene of refugees into other areas, this is not something that's new. where are these people to go? because they are planning and offensive or are you? are you optimistic that that won't happen? people should be allowed to go back to their homes and then norfolk, because the book should be allowed to go back to their homes in the middle because the only way should not be out of augusta into egypt. now what this man is doing is what one concord they're cutting short exercise bush and give anybody until that
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off crossing that should not be allowed. i know, and we know that it has been and it's about the program to push people it out of because a we and a job since has been what can call to not be as early as the horse to see if that is released with this one. the site is gone, see anything, but also the other piece speaks for itself. we know that this has been very, very good program to push people out there. so the most important thing for us then mostly on the community, is the bush day. so that is to allow, be good to go back to their homes. this is the only things that can happen, not only that, but also to step in immediately adopted us. if there's nothing you know, has that you've nothing, i'm feeling now. he actually one thing, he could 20000 people, he ends up 70000 people and he destroyed 281000 housing units. this is the only thing that the site has that you've been because of this thing. the minute is real for its parts says that it wants to avoid another october 7th, while i'm also slaughtering some 1200 people on october 7th. so there's evidence of
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sexual violence rate mutilation. i mean, do you really think that they would stop until they feel that the threat is over, but they've regained some sort of historical sputtered on did not start in october 7th, but as being in the sufferings expected in 194 to 8. and besides the now we, we, we, we know the history, there's 2 different versions of it. let's talk about them now. and what happens going from our asking of our smile? yes, my duty is to make it clear to the audience so that the people understand the macro, but it's not only that it's in finding micros even though the situation looked over 7 has been disaster capacity of it for everybody and don't. we don't accept the fact that civilians have been good. this is something that we thought they don't accept about. we should not allow the cycle violence every now and then to to be that sense. the palestinian issue has to be southern and now it is the time that we find solutions. it is not the found. the time that we,
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we speak about the process is we are sick of, of processes. now we have to go from the floor to this evening and from the ceiling to the floor. i. e, no more process is we need a commission of a stair to palestine and then we go into details. so the history of the scene, a catastrophe did not stopped october 7, the least, the last cycle vitamins has stopped to talk about a 7. yes. about before about 6 to 7. 19 it's a do all these sorts of things. we need to put an end to this by this thing. so then let's move then from the prospects for a cease fire now to the prospects for a 2 state solution to the palestinian authority. your organization, your seen as weak and having legitimacy issues come off is considered a terrorist organization. just carried out the worst attack on israel and its history. israel for its part has its most right when government, in history with the prime minister, who was opposed to 2 states solution quite vehemently. are you in
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a position to get a deal done? how can you, how can you tap into the international momentum when you have those conditions among the parties? that's me. just reflect on the points that you mentioned one by one. first of all, you are right. that we are in a big position that i the army and coaches into our cities into a letter for g comes in. i want to villages. as i said, the army has city, okay. abide every single bought of body style one second. that is for a new government has deducted substantial amount of our money, so we have not been able to base. so that is for the last 3 months. so not only that, $700.00 coupons have been imposed in the west bank in addition to what is happening in gus as what. so therefore, when we speak about a weeks if you're wishing and by this time you 100 percent, right? they say it out of me is not allowing us to function because we are under okay,
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impatient with them. and if we look at the finish, because you asked me a question, so let me, i'm sorry about the important issue is the plus. that's the biggest problem today is that they say is used to say about us we, they don't have a pop up. now i can easily claim back to your question that we don't have it. but i thought in this way, our president thought of us have been extended go what hands for those have to sit down and so can visual arab states is there was allies they want and i'm quoting, you're a revamped and revitalized palestinian authority that can play a role in postwar cause a, a boss says that the p a is ready to take responsibility for gaza immediately after the war. i mean, palestinians are tremendously dissatisfied with the we've seen the protest in ramallah 90 percent of the launch 90 percent of palestinians want about 90 percent 90 percent. wait a minute. one is does he need to go? does he need to go quickly?
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don't wait a minute. possible, how can you represent the palette say that you represent the palace in palestinian people in 90 percent? are you wanting to also pay and width for and i'm sort order. yes, we continue to okay. so wait a minute. first of all, we are very aware of the fact that we need to elections and our president issued up residential degree quoting for elections on done with the 2nd of may 2021. when is i did not allow us to have an expense new job or was that so we would have quoted between the how about on the how truck should we have elections without totals or them or should we wait until the 6 circumstances allow one the other important issue i did like i do like that, the revitalization of that. but as you know, sort of through that the president by the and spoke about and when i went with it, i realize that it means bank for life. so for us, the revitalization over the buddies are all sort of, it means one thing for me allow us to function plus is not my one. so i can list a problem that i'm sure you've announced reforms. yes,
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but it can be fun when are they going to happen on what sort of timeframe? because you have promised them before. what? when are they going to have water? but nothing, you know is water is going to continue on to the end of the year. to day in augusta, we have 50000 fathers, team, and 7 segments. what about the $19000.00 but as seen on policeman, we provide for it goes to the $140000000.00 borders every month. that's $1700000000.00 every year at about 55 percent of our budget is a boss going to a points, a deputy who has power? who has authority? this is, but if you can hold elections, is he going to a point, a deputy? look, they actually was not going to allow a caretaker as, as we to go to training the. but as many international parties are calling for the scene and basic law does not allow the president to have a dispute. ok,
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the better we are, people who are out of stick to them, but it allows him to serve 19 years in june for you. no, no, no. we own what we want is simply to have elections when actions are possible, we cannot have, it looks as for bottom to buy this fine without indexes for everybody. so, you know, let's not miss the point. the issue is, but i've seen that reform is something that we initiated, i am myself, but isn't it it to the international community? and just to answer your previous question, we are implementing it step by step in for the, for the nation with international community and with 3rd partnership with jo, money with united states, with, with europe and with others. we have the institutions, we have the capabilities, we have everything out. what a serious problem is that we are under 2 vision. a lot of people use this software and your audience should be aware of the fact that the palestinians and the it's about 11 minutes of your vision and we need the supervision to in mr. smoke about 3
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or 4. it's not about that. i think it's about, but it's the ones that are looking for one thing that's end over commission and establish a sub on via bill. quintillion was suspended by this time side by side, the state of the side. that's what we want. we have limited time and, and, and there's one more aspect that we need to get to here because you have said that and i'm gonna quote you here. we should realize that come off is an integral part of the palestinian political mosaic. you've called them then to join the p l o's political program. where do you see him off as role? and do you worry that you risk alienating international part. busy is who consider it to be a terrorist organization is rarely, is also who are deeply traumatized by the october 7th attacks. we will know that nothing yahoo tried to by way of this for money and therefore he had to deal with him us and. busy so for us, of course, how much is an integral part of the scene of what the godaddy now. but the,
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for how much to be a member of the, the low, the out of self done. but it, it was, is that how much has to accept the, what is it about 4 to move the be a little that we have an understanding on issues that has to do with it as a spence and that we are holding for hope. you love it as a samsung up anything else, and therefore, if how much accept then we have been in dialogue with him as before to about 7 in a lot of, i mean, i'm just speaking with him directly right now. no, a comcast is all happening. nope, no, but uh i'm not sure how to use those. like victor intermedia, russia has invited order. but as the non factions who would be meeting on the 26th of this month in moscow, and they have invited ordered by the scene on functions, we want to see if how much does it have to, to come to ground with us. we are ready to engage if how much is not going to come to ground with us. that's a different story, but we need it. but it's the only thing and the set of comments, nonsense. but i mean, if we're talking about him off here, this is, you know, an organization that has
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a history of undermining peace through violence. they reject the oslo accords. they're committed to armed resistance against scientism. i mean, look at the brutality of october 7th, where they slaughtered more than a 1000. people took hundreds of hostages, the youngest being 9 months old evidence of sexual violence rate, mutilation. dis, her mos really deserve another chance. nope. as i told you, one should not continue of focusing on october 7. the beginning step, no way that no we, we accept no way. we accept any getting over any civilian, even though some people. this is something that we should put behind ourselves. and the set of commonsense is that we need to have a situation in which but as seen as out of united, but again on our what is it going to jump on the ground. we're not going to go to the ground. we want them to come to our cut off.

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