blue bush on his national security adviser, under donald trump, coming up all last phase most hold each member of the us defense establishment for his thoughts on the israel homage conflict. and just donald trump looks increasingly unstoppable in his bed to become the republican presidential candidates. will ask john bolton about likely targets for retribution during a trump to presidency and about nato's future. i'm feel go invalid, and this is the day the, the hedge and the countries that up. and so does that mean that if we don't pay the bills, then you're not going to protect us. i said, that's exactly what it means. exactly. i'm not going to project. trump gave an invitation to pollutants to invade some of our, our nato allies. and i look at what donald trump sat on saturday, and it made me sick to my stomach. that world view is dangerous

destabilizing and indeed, short sighted ukraine would have never happened. i talked to put a lot along with them. well, kind of shake it's dump, shameful stagers, it's on american holes on the day i track this to gas and was that kind of farmers from across europe, blockade brussels to protest about high cost competition and red tape police have been using walter tons to try and extinguish fires burning here it's been less than a month since protesters descended on brussel lines the streets last time and farmers tell me they'll keep coming back. so it seems like this may not be the last welcome to the day, and then a donald trump has moved a step closer to his 3rd consecutive public and presidential nominations under

b match with the man who beat him in 2020 president. jo, by mister trump. won the south carolina presidential primary at the weekends of reaching his own remaining brian, from the highly by 20 percentage points, it says 4th consecutive victory, leaving him from the uncles to become the pos is, nominate is fine for the faith in her home. states highly says she will stay in the rice. it is mr. trump speaking after his way. but now it is a spirit that i have never seen. we ran to great races. but there's never been ever. there's never been this for like years and i just want to say that i have never seen the republican party, so unified as it is right. never been like right now. we're laughing stock all over the world. our country is going to be respected again. respected like never before . my 1st guest and i can speak with the authority about the presidency of donald

trump in his book, the room where it happens, john bolton offers a detailed account of his 17 months as president trump national. c, advisor and 2018 and 19 before that scene was us, i'm boss of it to the united nations under george w bush bush john balls and welcome to the day we appear to be heading towards the presidential election, a rematch between trump and joe biden. in the forward to the new paperback edition, if you book the room where it happens, you cite donald trump is on fits to be president. why? well, he's not competent to handle the job. he didn't know much about it when he came into office in 2017 and he didn't know very much more when he left in 2021. certainly in the national security space. he didn't have a guiding philosophy. he didn't do policy making as we normally understand that

term. he didn't appreciate the gravity of the issues that confronted him and he doesn't have any really better idea today. so at a time of increasing international difficulties to say the least, he is exactly the wrong person to become president of the united states. so is that an argument for another bite and presidency? no, not at all. i don't think by does fit to be present and either, although for somewhat different reasons, and it's very unfortunate that the country is facing this choice. you know, we have poles that now show up to 80 percent or more of americans do not want to see a bite and try to bring imagine that as of now is it looks exactly like what we're going to get. so trump unfit because of incompetence by an unfair because well, i don't think his policies are the right policies,

and i think the democrats are whistling past the graveyard quite literally to nominate the to nominate him. if he had stepped aside, i think the democrats would have had a very active primary race for their nomination. and that actually might have helped us on the republican side, dislodge donald trump. of a 2nd, trump presidency you've written. if his 1st 4 years were bad, the 2nd full will be was trying to really test only about retribution for himself. and it will consume much of a 2nd time to jump balls and who are the likely targets of donald trump's retribution? what payback likely to look like as well? i think given that trump's view of the presidency is a series of decisions about what benefits donald trump politically, primarily, but maybe economically as well. he will look at the people who stood in his way, his political opponents and in his world, the constitutional constraints that we have,

the protections for the descent really are not things that concern him. so he's indicated, for example, he thinks mark milly, the former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, committed treason for talking to his chinese counterpart in 2020, to say that the whatever you see on television, it's just the political. there is no change in the us military or diplomatic randomness status. a trump always used to say when i was national security advisor, he wanted to prosecute former secretary of state, a john kerry for violating what we call the logan act, which is an old statute about that conducting a private foreign policy. and he tried to repress my book that you just mentioned from being published because he didn't like it saying critical things about him and his conduct and off. and so there a wide range of factual targets and i'm sure trump will be eager to get at it. all right, well that's still something that may or may not happen. let's look at something

that that's happening at the moment that the, the conflict in gaza between the israel and how much. and the white house has been pressing israel notes to low and check round defensive. and rafa why something like a 1000000 civilians are sheltering with nowhere to go. what is your take on whether or not israel should do this? well i think they're going to go ahead, i mean, one of the people talk about a ground defensive, you make it sound like the battle of the bulge or something. when in fact, most of the combat and guys are right now is being conducted in this incredible system of tunnels that have mosse dug underneath. what seems to be most of the gaza strip, how many tens of millions of dollars are they spent on that rather than the economic betterment of the guys and residence is an interesting question. but there are hold up down there and they're trying to last these rallies out. so i think that the, these rallies obviously have an obligation to take due concern for civilian life.

but they're also free to, to rid themselves of the traveler from us tears. right? so, so in any wise house, in which you, you may or may, may not. so if yours would not be one of the voices cautioning israel to be to, to take more. okay. or to, oh, to not to go into gaza. well, i think they did what they were entitled to do. the right of self defense means you don't respond merely by killing the number of people that the mice killed on october, the 7th, you're entitled to eliminate the threat in world war 2. the united states eliminated japanese and german threats which we were entitled to do in our own self defense and as positive as elimination of dressers as you put it on is ro, has that kills something like 30000 civilians. again, the wife has criticized the israel a going to fall, and it's a response to that october 7th tire attacks. otherwise,

house by most countries in europe ending date, most of the global south. i'm what do you think? has israel gone too far as well? i know those are a mosque figures and it raises the question, even if 30000 is the right number. how many do you consider a moss terrorist and how many do you consider civilians? yeah, most, most terrorists don't go around in your uniforms and you can, you can aid and a bed terrorist activity in, in a lot of different ways. so i think it's a, it's a, there's a propaganda war going on here. i think a mazda is being israel and the propaganda war, but i'm not sure that's a reflection of reality. so i just, so we're clear, you don't believe that israel has gone too far in each reaction. no, i mean if, if you believe in the right to self defense, you have to believe that it's permissible to eliminate of tears threat. nobody should have to live with the terrorist threat on their border. and that's what the

as rallies are doing. returning to donald trump because one of the, the big issues, regardless of who is next in the white house, is, is the future of nato. a lot of european leaders have been much exercise by mister trump's recent statement that he would encourage russia to do whatever the how they want us to any native country that doesn't be. but the 2 percent guidelines on defense spending. i'm $16.00 plus the. do you think of? no, i think in a 2nd term, trump will withdraw the united states from nato. at describing i book the, the scene at the 2018 nato's summit in brussels, where he came within an inch of actually doing it that. so i think it's very likely he will withdraw in the 2nd term. i think that's a catastrophic mistake for the united states and the west as a whole. but he has been able to beat the drum very effective way on the number of european countries that haven't lived up to the commitment they made voluntarily in

2014. to spend 2 percent of g d. p on defense of a prop is very transactional. if he thinks in dollars in such terms, he doesn't have the strategic vision and then many europeans and i'll be honest, canada have play right into his hands. he's, he's not urging people to spend more because he wants to strength and nato. he doesn't expect ultimately the, the most of these members will make it to 2 percent, and that will be the basis on which he withdraws the united states for the alliance . right. so the so locked in a defense strategy. this isn't tied to this, and i appreciate what speculating this would be in topic transactional. this would not be as positive, some biggest threats, it'd be this would be just because you haven't paid your money vessel and we are leaving well that and he doesn't like the trade deals that exists between the european union and the united states. he never liked the fact that europe is buying

natural gas from russia or the north strain pipeline, which i think was entirely valid point. ronald reagan, warranty or warranty, or in the 1980s do not become dependent on russian oil and natural gas. good talking to giving us much so think about the former us national security adviser and bassett. john bolton, thank you. thank you. the for the us supreme court is hearing arguments in cases that could have a big influence on the 2024 election. the 1st time judges will rule whether content moderation is constitutional. the cause will decide whether to uphold republican back laws in florida and texas, that regulate our social media companies. moderate speech. the 2 states passed billows after twitter, facebook, and those bound for the president. donald trump, from the platforms in the wake of the storming of the us capital, on the 6th of january,

supporters of the law say they protect conservatives from liberal online bias. and the fact that judges will rule on how the 1st amendment applies to the internet era . do tech jobs like facebook, x and tick tock of the right to control what use as opposed to most of those can see if judges decide. no, it's fear that ruined and could amplify some of the ugliest aspects of the internet, such as hate speech. and this information decision is expected in june. lindsey goldman is a senior problem for emerging technologies at the gym and marshall funds alliance for security democracy. she's recently served as senior advice in the by the white house and the office of science technology. and on the national security council, welcome to the day for non americans, it seems all odd that the supreme court should have to rule on by that a private company can refuse to provide its goods or services to someone who breaks its rules about hateful or objectionable content, what's going on or?

well, it is been odd and it this to be, is it a, a truce or question about the 1st amendment? the, the, the legend pieces of legislation at issue are arguing that individuals 1st amendment rights are being censored and controlled. whereas on the other hand, the platforms themselves have made the argument that is in fact their 1st amendment right freedom of speech, freedom of expression, to decide what not only which kind of content and which users are allowed on the platform. in accordance with certain rules and conditions, but also which contact get's promoted, which content gets suppressed? these platforms in order to exist rely on doing content, moderation to filled out. so as you mentioned, we are content on the internet hate speech and the like. and their business model would be highly threatened if they're not able to show user viewers and users, but they want to see what's being uh,

some of the more and more hateful content out there. okay, so this is a big deal. this is not just about some bit of a texas and florida legislation. it's been whichever way this goes. this is going to have a big impact. absolutely, absolutely. these platforms are successful because they're able to show us. but we want the engagement model engagement business model that social media platforms have really pioneered that gives them revenue from the advertisement is based on giving us the content that we want to see if they're no longer able to do that. because for example, they have to wait all content equally, they could be more or less compelling products to all of us. i think the supreme court rules in favor of the texas and florida legislation will not mean social companies. social media companies will have to lift all restrictions on what's posted as well. i do think it depends what the billing looks like. and we could see the supreme court opinions take up cases of the legislation that they could go as

far as to say individual. cathy ban, but perhaps certain content could be selected, they're also differences between the florida and the texas. build on what can be banned and what extent. so we could see potential measures coming out of the court's ruling in june. but, but either way, these issues have these, these laws have an enormous impact on the platforms. and really this fundamental question, are they publishers or are they public utilities that has been a feature of the internet in the united states since its creation. okay. zooming out from this particular case, when one does it well, that when the lowest in florida in texas were passed at that time the world was worried about misleading post. you have one that's a new kinds of this information could take over the 2020 for presidential election campaigns i or generated audio and visual content. so what will i mean election in the era of

a i look like absolutely. i think we're already seeing it. we just a couple of weeks ago had an instance in the us of an a. i generated a robo call that was discouraging voters from voting in the primary election. we could see the speed of a i generated visual content, videos and audio. and we're already seeing this happen in elections throughout the world. so it's very much not hypothetical risk. that this information, this information that already plays the online spear will be supercharged because it's going now into the audio into the video visual round. not just the textural does information that we're, we, we've, unfortunately become accustomed to seeing. so huge impacts politically, even as candidates start to experiment themselves with using a i generated content to reads can reach constituents and their real questions, including around this hearing about whether platforms will be able to selectively

promote or demote that kind of content. it's something that they've decided the stage and will they be allowed to, to get that off their platform or label it accordingly, i think is all an issue here and which is particularly relevant, given answers in a i would say it's, it's interesting that what we're talking about the threat from a i've is a known as a major is 1st thing towards us. again, i think it's only your up. so 5, in terms of significant jurisdictions that seems to be doing much to try and legislates and control this technology. and that's right. europe is definitely take in a more pro regulatory stance than when you see from the united states or even even the u. k. of the approach of the united states seems to be taking is more innovation for trying to build in our values into the technology themselves. but that said, i would not totally discount regulatory action. we seen executive actions from a white house from the commerce department or on

a i safety. so there is movement there. but europe much like with data security and data privacy, europe has been 1st at the gate to regulate a i think one of the challenges has been though that with the advanced generative a i what we need to regulate, what we need to govern is constantly changing and so it's, it's, it's tough for policy makers to keep up with that data. so we will talk about this again for now though. thank you so much. lindsey goldman from the german marshall funds alliance for security. democracy. thanks so much i, i am very fond this paralyzed pots of brussels. this protest has brought back the bonds on the truck to us to the sidelines of i. e u. agriculture as that may take agriculture ministers, meeting governments across the block. i've been trying to ease tensions with the agriculture industry following week 5th demonstrations. but farms remain unconvinced. brussels blaze farmers added fuel to the

fire of europe wide protests on monday, calling for less red tape and more supports do with unpredictable prices on these issues. so we want to have a future. farming is our passion, and ultimately we want to be able to make a living on the know that are so many specific use rules. and in the end, we can no longer produce low prices. about people grew up a couple when you look at the last 40 years since i started, things have been getting worse. and what else is office security forces lined up to keep demonstrators out of you headquarters as ministers met? police have been using was, are trying to try and extinguish fires burning. here it's been less than a month since protesters descended on brussel lines the streets last time and farmers tell me they'll keep coming back. so it seems like this may not be the last european farmers have a broad range of demands from home to ignore the you in ports describing

environmental legislation. a big to call tensions. the book has already moved to relax some green farming rules and polls plant pesticide blows. we are here today to take a board, the feedback that farmers right across year of, of given in relation to the need to ensure that the regulations are made more simple to making sure to make sure as well that they work that they carry out on a day to day basis is respected and i think, you know, that has not had the prominence and pre eminence in the conversations. we have it as the culture. and so it did, it deserves officials are normally new ways to ease the burden on farmers. but as they race to respond, some critics fear the use big claimant's purposes could go up in smoke aft roll agriculture, a coats for some 10 percent, the you emissions, small scale farmers, blaine corporate interests. you as decided to listen only to the very big farmers and to grow business in my from i know what is climate change?

so i am in favor of policies to stubbs. this climate, though, crises, but i cannot do it with price is that the fall below microsoft solutions for now it would, these protesters say they'll keep pushing their message with brussels attempt to satisfy farmers so far falling flat. it will not result from my brussels correspondent, rosy bird shod, who told me more about the day's events. well, this is the aftermath of those protests. many of farmers near tractors have left this part of the city for they have left behind the big piles of vern tires, bird pay sacks. there is a clean up mission underway here in the european union neighborhood of brussels. not all of those cars met a similar fate. if you look over that, where you will see simply a molten pile of mess, that is another fire that was extinguished earlier by police using walter cad. and no, as i said tractors, i've made their way mostly on this part of the city. there is some traffic starting

to move again, bicycles, for example. people coming home with their way for work. of course, brussels is as easy to use a place where people are used to pros. a protests farmers so far have have benefited from a degree of public support for their cause. these kind of slightly more dramatic seem to be seen here with this kind of mess. left behind might stretch that to some extent on file process that i've been taking place all over. you are, and this isn't the 1st that on the streets of brussels. so what will send them back to the phone? the farmers have a long list of demands and they're not all the same. for example, we know farmers in poland and parts essentially eastern europe are very concerned about agricultural import from ukraine. we've heard other farmers really complaining about is associated with receiving the subsidies. what i should say, you subsidies for farmers to make up a significant share of the european union budget. some of those farmers who are in

brussels, belgium, for example, are much more concerned to buy big free trade deals, for example, to use with parts of less than america. so they have pretty disparate demands. they are united in one complaints that their prices are simply too unstable on their costs. are too high. well, a you, i'd be able to manage this. i've been searching for a way, uh, ford. i have. they come with a plan, rosie the, their happiness, free of concessions to farmers over the past few weeks. as we see, these protests are run across europe, but not include, for example, easing some green farming rules, but also moves to try and prevent your current sell main ports from ukraine. that is something which some farmers have welcome, but it certainly seems to be the pharmacy or the street. not enough for them somewhere complaining that it was for communication exercise. other thing they really will keep coming back until their demands are met. it seems to me they were calling for the kind of systemic change of everything that you have come up with.

so far. it's really within the existing system. governments really do seem to be keyed to try and show their listening to farmers were a couple of months away from you alexis, that i think there are fears that farmers could take their boats to the far right if they feel their bodies are not heard. spots on the other hand, as we also heard, there are claimant competitors that are worried that the if you, you goes too far and these concessions, it's in the airport if you any way. this could end up with a compromise, letting me speak claimant's promises. ok, thank you for that, rosie rosie beauchamp in brussels. and that was that i will follow out to him on social media apps d w news or on the d. w. at the latest headlines copes on around the clock on the w dot com. have a good the

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