against russia, nothing could be rolled as well. not so fast mani said the leaders of the u. k. spain italy potent, i'm the you are paying commission. we have absolutely no class to send ground troops in the drum, a chance that i even went so far as the site, there will be no grounds troops, no soldiers on ukrainian soul, said there by european countries all by nato states. so that's clear and feel go invalid, and this is the day the find the modem to that it would be no ground, no soldiers. when you create insight, send by european countries or need those to me. but in dynamic terms, nothing should be ruled out. we need to consider a new actions to support your claim. it cannot be an option, and it will not be an option. some of these actions go to require

a presence on ukraine in territory without crossing the threshold. often the germans also on the day at dw, made for the family of a hostage being held in gaza. he's a migrant worker from time. so of course it's a lot of pressure. i can't rest, i can't eat. i think about my son all the time. i'm constantly wondering how he is . i was told that they only get a blanket and i'm sure they don't sleep because they're so anxious. i'm wanting to know i'm quite welcome to the day. emmanuel macro has faced uneasy reactions from european allies after he refused to relapse, sending west and ground troops to you, cried the french president, made his remarks at the meeting of old and 20 european leaders in paris. the conference was conveying just a show of support for you, try it against the russians. war of aggression your credit in president for

a lot to me as a lensky. i attended the gathering 5 video link crimes and launch the on the defensive. as it contends with slow west and alms delivers the rush of superior numbers on the battlefield. here is the french president speaking on monday. it was the one that quoted soon as we are convinced that defeating russia is essential to security and stability in europe. we are determined to do whatever is necessary for as long as is necessary, and that is the key point for me this evening. and this is the 1st part of our discussion was basically about doing more. and there was a broad consensus that together we should do even more even faster sondra. i'll go there. it's actually pretty easy. there was no consensus today on sending in troops on the ground in unofficial accepted and endorsed way. but in dynamic terms, nothing should be ruled out. we will do everything necessary to ensure that russia cannot win this war or for the front as president does seem to be out on

a limb on this once following his speech allies including britain, spain, poland, the czech republic, and jeremy old distance themselves from the idea of committing ground troop said to you, cried whether war has now entered its 3rd year. is jim and chance of my own actions beyond the authority, october, but this good kid we obviously discussed, we used to arrange for the support of this type of data by it's not enough for a very good debate. we decided that what was agreed from the outset desktop also applies to the future on to and on the, on the done under fiscally foreignness, namely that there will be no ground troops mixed us as kind to know soldiers on ukrainian, sorry to stop. and i'll send there by european countries or need those states some stop in order for me not to stop and alternative sick patterns. so let's pick this up with benjamin. tell us who's a senior research fellow. the gentleman council on foreign relations is co. busy

most recently of germany is facing ukraine and your law school, which just appeared and the publication foreign policy. welcome to dw, thanks very much pleasure to be in a manual background that makes it a bold statement. why? what it could be so easily and publicly contradicted? well, well, it looks like microns out on a limb, in public, behind the scenes. i think it's a little more complex. i mean, let's be very clear. this is part of operation unblocked. alas, this is about a coordinated move by allies behind the scenes to try and get germany moving in the right direction by widening the debate. oh, really, so this is, this is about. so we can, because as we saw in the eclipse that, that the german and the child said was quite well on diplomatic. they was, there was no hedging. that was, that was a, no, no, you repeat intrigues. no, no boots on the ground. but this is a why the move to try to sort of pushing towards that, i think so. i mean, i think of themselves as faddie that he clearly understood. he was the target of

that's. that's why he was pads so, so straight talking. but what we see is germany blocks and what it's doing because the chancellor still hasn't said even that ukraine should win and is not supporting you crying to win at the moment except bass. i'm, we have these other comments from these other european states, not as a unequivocal as, as mister schultz, but all of them say, no plans to do this, which is what you tend to expect to hear when diplomats to say no. no indeed. i mean that being diplomatic that's standing with with gemini, to an extent, but what is done is whitening the conversation about what could be in people's minds and what is possible, which makes some other steps look more reasonable along the way. sending taurus, for example, does your actually have the, the capacity to help you crazy. oh, yes, it does. absolutely. the several things we could do. the danish prime minister was very clear at the munich security conference. the old i lies, could send more. they have stokes, they could send to, you kind of should send them now. so i can, we can seize russian assets and actually make russia pay for its own defeat rather

than putting the whole button on our tax pass. and we could be stepping off our industrial production a lot more. and crucially off shots could say that ukraine should win. well, if we can tool us, if we can step up the industrial production on while we're doing that, it's a very good question and that's one best address to the town. so re, um, our best analysis of this suggests that all our shots is not keen on the kind of change to the well, that would be brought about by ukrainian victory is hanging on to as much the world of yesterday as possible. really use your analysis seems to be old aimed at life show. so low left shoulder is is holding everyone else back. yeah, i mean, less that'd be missed on us that we do analyze other things as well. but in germany, that is where the blog is at the moment is where a lot of other allies see the block is being, there's many allies in the baltic states and elsewhere. who would like to go a lot further, a lot faster. so just to be clear, because over the last couple of my biggest issues that's at fault for your credit

has been the delivery of arguments and, and, and everybody says, well, the orders have gone in. so it's just difficult, at least unless we're on a war time for things to, to fulfill those your siding, but that, that, that could be a policy change and that could actually change. yes, we could move closer to more time. so think suddenly, we could also stop exposing the 40 percent of shelves that we produce within the european union. go outside the block and not to your crime. that's been an awful lot of steps we could take. i'm trying to unblock that. politically. is the name of the game at the moment. think this all sounds fairly, forgive me for things and since it was very trumpia and he wasn't a big fan of, of, of germany and it's, it's defense policy. and we had donald trump's former national security adviser on the program yesterday saying that he was sure that under 2nd trump presidency. mr. trump would tell our president, trump would take us out of nato. all european lead is do you think,

reading or indeed preparing for such a possibility, then all ready for it and then not properly preparing for it. choice the absolute it should be yes, it's not a question or form of withdrawal from nato necessarily know. so still, how strong support in the us congress, but any kind of war fighting decision goes through the white house and the sewing of the kind of uncertainty, the trump would undoubtedly bring brenda's brenda's. i'll security guarantee, uncertain, and it's not kind of uncertainty. the pointing is really scale that exploiting, especially when need to text weakness and that's what we're signaling right now. okay. so i'm, it's the oldest this talk of, of, of germany, a dragging it's tables 2 years ago we had a glass shelves and i'm seeing the fist sites invented this turning point in germany's defense and security policy in response to russia's invasion and result of a massive increase in defense spending, improve defense capacity. so what have we seen 2 years on? we're seeing germany and basically as by the geo political position as it was 2

years ago, the change hasn't gone far enough. it hasn't gone fast enough. it's serious, the incompletes, even on the times that was set out. and it's, i would say dangerously inadequate. to be quite honest. germany is trying to plug about a 450000000000 hole in the funding for the bundle with a 100000000000 funds just for one thing. it's not sending ukraine or it could. it's not actually helping to remove the biggest security threat we face in europe and the still big questions about its energy policy. and it's like i could only model because there was serious geo political risk from dependence on china among other things. so i don't think that's right in been that has, has happened to us extent. i think we now need insight and then the one that does that she chosen about whether germany and it sound like want to set the agenda for the world or whether they're happy to be dictated to by dictates us. okay. i'd like to get your perspective on a related story because as this policy discussion on falls in your data also. so i told him point in the last couple of, of days a short while ago the ongoing problem that approved the admission of sweden

tomato. and so with that process now being completed, we very much look forward in the days ahead to finalizing everything and bringing sweden into our lines, our shared lines. i think it's only underscores yet again of the strategic debacle that pollutants invasion or re invasion of ukraine has produced from russia nato alliance that is both stronger and larger. with the exception of books and one to now and now sweden vocals sweden bring 10 days. so that the alliance doesn't already have territory that the symbol entire tauriel times that improves nights i was ability to control the baltic sea, certainly to bring strong well equipped military. and it sends a very clear signal that the alliance is together. and that it's, it's basically a good move for the free. well, this one, the other thing it will bring is the ability. now to deploy its troops along side canadian troops, for example, in latvia, the old man, the forward presence,

that is that which helps to fulfill data is mission of deterring russia and determined that by denying russia access to alliance territory next. so is set. now, where would you say that there are no other and the bits on the i just looking to, to join the ukraine should be a night though. um that's absolutely going to be actually a goal of the alliance. we need a stable security architecture in europe. we don't need a consist of pressure and we don't seem to have something to happen yet, but don't roll it out because this is actually the only viable solution really for european security, credible security guarantees. what you can needs to reconstruct for refugees to return to the ukraine with the future, and we need it for our security. so this is why europeans really need to step up the right, properly shut another in the shadow button, but shift the button for european security to themselves and have that institution expressed by an expansion of nato. fascinating analysis. the thank you for sharing with us at benjamin. tell us from the german council on foreign relations and thank you very much. the israel is managed account,

probably the guys have asked has been testing its relationship with its neighbor egypt. the 2 countries have had peaceful relations for 14 years, and colorado is often mediated in conflicts in the region. but egypt is now one of many countries urging israel to halt as planned, black ground operations in rough of the right on the border with egypt. since rafa is crammed with it on 1400000 people, many displeased from other parts of the causes us to conditions that a diet would shortages of food and water. egypt has one good suspended speed you with isn't. if it's ready troops, i sent it off of egypt has had useful relations with israel since both countries signed the dam david accords in 1979. i would gladly let me, but a different president of the c. c has been vocal in his condemnation,

up as operation in its war against homos. and even if he is with us, the display of the gods is having nowhere else to go. it could lead to intense pressure on them to escape the enclave into egypt sign. i've been into a situation keitel wants to avoid egypt along with several other countries. fear is red, wouldn't allow them to do it on on the terms of the 1979 based rudy design. i've been into law and the gossip border a demilitarized zone since the october 7th, the tax, egypt has been beeping up. what does it go to do with more groups? because of frontier with is really concerned. egypt also appears to be building a fortified area there die roll for the past decade, has been creating a massive buffer zone as part of that security coordination with is there a part of that has been the destruction of tunnels from instead of creat into gaza,

which we used for smuggling on other issue, the testing relations between the 2 countries is a narrow demilitarised strip of land that separates egypt and gaza, known as the philadelphia, quote at all suggestion, but its value prime minister benjamin netanyahu, that he wanted is ready to take control of the quiet or has angered chiral despite the god intense relations between instead in egypt, any of them by cairo to walk away from its b as accord with is read good through very costly egypt economy is struggling and it would risk losing billions of dollars of us aid it receives as part of the 1979 treaty and talk to us on um, if i q is director of the middle east and north africa program after lunch and pasting tank, a child's in house. welcome to the w. i'd like to start without that's uh egyptian threats to walk away from its 1979 pace tracy, be these right?

if the rafa operation goes ahead, i guess my 1st question isn't to pause what effect would that have and why is egypt so concerned a thank you for having me. uh well, um, egypt just um is not making this threat lightly. it sees the displacements of palestinians as very dangerous as a precedent. it doesn't want to see the repeat of the 1948 displacement of palestinians that took place and as a result of the war at the time. secondly, of course, a displacement of post indians could of, of course, plus challenges for each of the own security. and the instruction government is using the threat of breaking a diplomatic ties with israel ties,

but egypt has maintained since 1979 as a leverage um for the israeli government to take egypt position on post and in displacement seriously. we have seen, however, that the israel is determined to take a right to to, to apply which so far only if i can put it that way. and not even the heating advice somebody's closest ally at the united states quite often is the threat from egypt likely to be taken seriously by israel as well. since egypt has made that um, uh, threat, very public and has been quite persistent and pressing this avenue of escalation there have been revived. talks to get to a temporary cease fire. and egypt has been a very important interlocutor. mediator along side cuts are in the united states and in paris, but also in the region in order to get to the cease fire before ramadan,

which begins on march thames. um, so it does look like the carrot and stick approach if you will, might be getting some traction and the mediator is including us president joe by the end of the candidate that they are getting close to an agreement, which is a very positive sign on, on what should we read into israel is the use of ramadan, mostly festival, as a ministry deadline, as well. i think it's a everyone's deadline, not just israel's deadline. i think it's important to achieve of ceasefire as as soon as possible. it's important obviously to release hostages, but above all, to also address the massive humanitarian disaster that's taking place and gaza with so many lives was over 30000 at this point a ceasefire needs to happen yesterday

and delaying it to the start of ramadan. i don't think it's a positive or productive outcome for, for all sides. but ramadan is seen as a deadline because there are deep fears across the region that this war could escalate. that violence could spread into the west bank and history slide where these really government has not allowed muslims access to the lots of mosque and during ramadan and the time of a deep religious, a meeting for muslims across the region. being deprived of the opportunity to pray at the alex a mosque would be a very dangerous and, and could it lead to violets as well. okay, that's totally clear. thank you so much for joining us in the outline for us talk to send out a q from chatham. the

ones from us carried out those tara attacks and as while on the 7th of october, it didn't just carolyn kidnappers. right, and is but other nationalities, 2 of those, the biggest grew best from thailand and official site aids tie migrant workers are still being held hostage. the w scale masses went to band don't. and northern thailand for this report in just a few centimeters, take up a whole hour. how making carpets with the neighbors helps coming to them. now, past the time, sick with worry now hasn't been able to work since how much terrorists kidnapped her son. more than 140 days ago, the only visitors to her tailor shop these days, all local officials, inquiring about her situation. so of course that's a lot of pressure. i can't breast i can't eat. i think about my son all the time. i'm constantly wondering how he is. i was told that they only get

a blanket and i'm sure they don't sleep because they're so anxious. i'm wanting to know one way that like many ties, her eldest son was in israel working for a farmer like the 1000 bureaus. he owned a month help the family back home company. let him now bought this tractor for the family farm with the money her son sent. she says he continued working in israel despite knowing it was dangerous, so i know he's actually experienced a similar situation before. died. 2 people were killed right in front of him when they were hiding in the shelter during another attack. capital a whole lot. and i told him to come back, but he said it was normal there. for a while i do. in the neighboring village, this families were united. a new shot and killed was released of the 50 days of captivity. the money he on from 4 years working in israel, helped him buy a house and set up a chicken farm. but he says he will never forget the morning of october 7th, steve,

to the events of land with the vin by line. and they put us in an empty house for about an hour initially and then moved us to the tunnels. they know they won't, they hurt us badly. got especially the 1st 2 to 3 lands for that long time. we were only given bread and water just enough to survive. let's see. i counted the days by meals. otherwise, we just lay on the ground and slept in the way to meet the non how these are the other type workers he was held hostage with on the day of their release. one of them is from the same village has come to them now, some talking to his mother, it gives her hope that the most dangerous part may already be behind to me. on the day of the kidnapping, the total of 5 tie, what goes to what they can captive. but the call could only fit for more people. and i look also be executed. one right, the load by better wages than they can get at home. tens of thousands of time

nationals, especially from this remote region, working east. right. they're able to do so because of an agreement between the 2 countries. but officials like the town may or feel the government should do more to protect. so it's easy to diagnose football fan couple miley welcome. it's my personal opinion on that. if it is up to the individual way, they want to go to the they are the ones who take a risk of a high end. the ones who benefit from i last with the cd and move with but the government should provide adequate information about risk zones promising this and that so that people can make an informed decision not to have to hold it upside them with someone else. the labor agreement with israel has been suspended for the time. be many people here with now rather go to taiwan or south korea for what company. let me now says she wants her son to stay in thailand. when he finally returns, she's bought some kettles and land for him. as the rice in these fields will be ripe and about a month. she hopes he'll be back home in time for the harvest. let

me finish riviera, asked of a 65 year old woman here in ballot, and that sent shock waves across germany. german use paper bills for voices that the woman's neighbors knew as cloud. yeah, but she's actually done yet. atlanta who's been on the run for decades as a suspected member before i left a militant group, but terrorized west germany during the 19 seventy's and eighty's. then you like it had been in hiding for more than 30 years. she belonged to the left wing extremist group, the red army faction. now the suspected form, a terrorist has been arrested in a police department, isn't visual. we're certain that the person, the rest of this, then he left left to what we have been living on the ground for 30 years. and this ends a man hunting that has been going on for almost 9 years. thread on the section was founded in the spring of 1917 by under the as bought out, was it combined with and good to humans lean. they come and go to change the

political system even through violence for more than 20 years. a terrorist organization fought against what they viewed as wisdom and use imperialist system. the all right, you have committed 34 murderous, numerous bank robberies and phonics, more than 200 people were in to doing a tax blamed on the group in april 1998 b r a f announced its dissolution. many of the terrorist groups crime says student not being solved, federal police us do searching for suspected already. you have members accused of attempted murder and robbery. as focused out on the left, left hand book, gabby and others have been wanted for us. a toast mackenzie new terrace can never feel safe, not, not even after 30 years, not even after such a long time. and our security authorities are highly professional and always able to track down and every hint terrorists, even after a long time to be on. even how tough to the following,

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