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that much of joining us for an exciting exploration of everything in between. this is a video and audio production 5 d w. i hope video will tune in the the just because something is created after officially doesn't mean that it doesn't really well impact. obviously, when anything new comes out, the 1st thing it's useful is toward my face has been digitally plastered, countless times over other people's to make it bodies to create sex content that i never consented to. what is it, it's on the internet about me. i can tell you right now it is deep sites is not me
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. someone put my space on to porn and sold it. there is a whole website multiple websites dedicated to creating on connections, video, years of a sexual nature of anyone you want my safety, my day to day life, my whole career has been irreparably changed by this. people will say it's not really yea. so nothing really happened, but i do regard what has happened to me as a form of violence at the state of bars to she and on safe and my own time in my own streets. you know, if that is not considered a crime, what has to happen to women for we are just that. it was just a new way to exploit women and girls. it's the new way to create another way of violating women and bills. it's just something you
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the doctor dr. faker and i've been producing deep fig porn films for 3 years. medical bills and my clients tend to be heterosexual men who want to deepen fake a woman into a porn video and i'm not advisors. they normally send me photos or videos. sometimes recordings of video calls for meetings. so sales meeting when i have enough material and the target person as well. and i know which porn film i should deep take them into. i can get to work on from to of i can switch into it again semester by artificial intelligence does about 60 percent of the work and i do about 40 percent manually always comes about the while. i'm looking for source material. i learned a few things about the person does and it's, it's usually a woman. the man has a thing for a know daddy not his boss or a neighbor or his brother's wife. nothing surprises me anymore. yeah. so i have no problem telling my story about,
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but i don't want my face or my voice to appear on tv. that's why this interview hasn't been reenact. instead of, you know, if i media and if all my family, my wife and my friends, i know that i produce the big point is to help finish. but i'm not proud of it. i do the job for the money. i don't feel guilty about it. who is, the woman doesn't know she's in a porn film, so it doesn't cause any harm. your me my name is carl hunter. i am a victim of image, be a sexual violence. i'm definitely changed me as a person, something like this. it couldn't go through something i believe as traumatizing and not change. i grew up here in the north coast here in ireland. didn't really low school, but i loved learning and really enjoyed my time at university. i have
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a journalism degree, and i want to make a student documentary, not talk about northern ireland and the difficulties that we faced here. and that's how i got into politics. hi, evolve a how are you this? are you handling as well? okay, just so you should just say, yeah we, we, i just wanted to give you one of these here just to some of our details there at the bottom. so, you know, if you ever needed to send it over, we are free. it was lovely to see you again. i think my family were really quite shocked because i wouldn't be the most out there kind of person. but i've made it very clear. this was something that really matter to me. things like mental health, diction and just advocating for our children and young people are just issues that really, really matter to me. so i thought, why not, you know, just give it a go. and lo and behold, i go to like the good evening everyone, i just like to mega span. thank you to every voters here tonight. so yesterday of
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the freezing winter weather and said no to the graduate of division invites that we have here in northern ireland. so i hopefully, if i have a future political career of representing everybody in the north of the for making quite a surprise for my family when i 1st went into it and they all said, don't do it like your life will not be your own. i think it was 18 days i from my election and i had received a facebook messenger message from a stranger who says hi there is that yay! in that video. and then he sends what i would describe to be unexpectedly pornographic video. the girl in the video is similar to me and height and weight and she it and i saw the video and i was like as a surprise. so i remembered this crazy.
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it stopped me. so from there my mind was just like what the hell just happened? why am i put myself through this? why am i in this job? but that was the, that was the purpose of this, but you was to isolate me and, and bars me and put me in a mindset where i think it was not going to happen. who is just like, i cannot sit here a lawyer, this horrible person has done the most on thinkable, disgusting, despicable thing to an aisle it and re and not only my life, but this is a career that i worked so hard for. well, good afternoon everyone. i just want to thank you all for having me here today and allowing me to see what we're doing in here with the kicking habits class. so oftentimes we do see people who have maybe a mental health diagnosis and also struggle with addiction, whether it's drugs or alcohol. and it's my job to do what we can to help support
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people who are essentially struggling as well. and just let you know, it's a pleasure to be here. as of right, you can give it. we punched myself, so thank you very much. i'm left across the people are messaging me. within 15 minutes i had like a 100 messages and it was go in what i would describe as viral the have people laughing at me. so hang awful things talking to by my voice, the size of my breast. some people saying what they like to do to a man all over the world had made a point of calling me a or a slot. one person said our senior level video. wow.
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but lessons learned? i'm sure. and i didn't, i, oh, i learned your last and i couldn't believe the nature of people's comments that they felt they had seen me naked. so they had a right to send me horrible massage in the state cru messages, a sort of become paranoid in the way. i didn't feel like anywhere was safe the. so when these tools thus damaged, they were difficult to use and people were sharing space for the videos of celebrities, female celebrities. and that's probably ball does, the tools became more testable. we started to see a massive amount of private individuals being targeted by the fakes. and i think we're probably now talking of millions of women around the world. and this is a truly global problem. finance henry ida,
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i'm at the sites and dinner today. i experts. so at the fake refers to the use of occupational intelligence to generate a highly realistic but take synthetic content. so that could be swapping faces in videos, taking someone's space and putting on someone else's body. i could be cloning voices, but could hear me say things like, i'm no longer was right. this video really took off, i think because it was one of the us, but people i oh golf. this is something i can experience being from buying real time. i know it's not really and yet it feels so real c, i would never say these funds least not in the public address, but someone else was someone with jordan p by to the 2018 buzz feed. and the film director and comedian told me to cooperate it on a public site. the announcement for take, why ever since really we've seen
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a lot of coverage in the main stream. media of you know, how this is going to ruin democracy. how this is going to break news, a man, you'll blame you for interfering with your democracy. but i don't have your knowing it's 3 or so and endorsed by with the opponent, like hon. jeremy colby suited the prime minister of the united kingdom. but actually research i conducted back in 2019 from the, at the time, 96 percent of the defect videos online in 2019, what photographic and the fee is around the states use in elections in political campaigns was really actually not substantiated by the evidence that was and really sort of drive home the point that at the time and still to this day in terms of malicious di, takes immune abuse against women is the most powerful home that we,
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that we see affecting millions of women at this point when he faced us the most in 2017, i had a bit of a reckoning. i guess you could say that this technology was going to change the load. and if we fast forward to 2023, the quality is improved so much that it is the case that a lot of people call and trustworthy see anymore online. and we don't know what is a deep take and what is real content. we are reaching a really critical moment why these technologies are easily accessible. verification, they need much data on that realistic, or as a society, we will need to be thinking, well, how do we want these technologies to embed into what day to day lives? how are they going to improve our lives? what are the use cases with the, the kind of the balance is not what i
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really need a cup of coffee kind of, there's a nurse and my dad took care of us at home. we're passionate irish nationalists, but we're never ignite about our views. your politics was never discussed at the dinner table for me when i went home from schools. it's like, this isn't going to disappear. this is one year later. yeah, i'm, we're steve. so actually dealing with it and stuff, it's an impact and it's an impact on the whole family. i would have neighbors come up out of friends, come up. i would of people who i didn't even know. yeah. say your daughter's, as i said, was that most of my daughter. yeah. and they said, oh, we don't know that. and you don't know that. yeah. it's just hard because all it takes is a seat of diet for people to change or they think about you. i mean, your file took by bob, i mean very bad man. i think when you hook him over here to to tell us all that
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time, he was so upset about the whole thing and that somebody would do that. i'm going to need to get out of politics because of that, you know, i think the hard at that is probably the hardest part for me. building trusts, building respects your constituents. and then someone somewhere has sat in their bathroom, but i thought it was me and holidays you can create it effect video based it together with a hold of me and my poster i was actually if you think about it, hey, ever done, unless it was very smart mm hm. because it's a traces crime like to this day. we do not know who did this and this never being pulled in by police. mm hm. i think that in many respects is extremely disappointing because you're going to police, they were like, really sorry, is this happened, new ones, technically break in law. you should just press res bass. the lock. mm. i remember being like, you know, this is a horrible place to be a woman because of the right people. there's new laws protecting you, distributing and sharing dictate pornography is still lawful in most countries in
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the world. there's only a few countries that have taken action to criminalize distribution, dictate pornography. i'm claire mclinn and i'm a professor of law at starting the university in the there are many laws in most countries that could be used to target some aspects of the creation and distribution of deep fate pornography. so it is possible that the person doing that might breach copyright laws might seem to beach destination laws. but the reality is you have to have money to be able to take legal action. you also have to know who has created a distributed that deep fate pornography. there's very little, especially the ordinary people can do to challenge this activity. i think hard at that was probably the hardest part for me because i think we as women like we, we know that this is sort of a part of the female experience. high society believes the best way to put the woman is to objectify them, to sexualize them. and i think that's why after it had happened, i wanted to make
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a point of coming. i bought it because i thought to myself, you know, no woman should have to enjoy this. well, yeah, because as best i wouldn't swear it was all i have to get done and just jo golfer and i'm going to hand me the video as in charlie. my name is case isaacs and i am the founder of the not your point of campaign. gosh, it's not your phone campaign back in 2019. when a friend of mine ended up on point have without her consent. so i called to come to tax and a video of her having sex with upon them was uploaded to port hub,
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and it was incredibly difficult to get it down. so i wrote to administrative justice, so hit i send out, there was no law that prevented a company from profiting from nonconsensual image based sexual abuse. and i decided i had to change that when i got started, i didn't have any experience next to them. i didn't know where i was getting myself in into and it was a lot harder than i anticipated. was very nice. but yeah, stealing report have was an experience to say the least. i think when use you see the type of stuff i had seen. you can't go back from that is, or the amount of content i saw which was so abusive and the victims i spoke to who shed their stories. and it was just at create stuff to have back in their life. and they lost so much of, you know, if it wasn't that jobs, it was, it didn't to. so i to low go together, put together a campaign,
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put onto iso image base spectra abuse. this country is going to come over feed industry has been profiting from this type of image based extra these for a long time. now these u. k badges to companies mrs. government's responsibility to hold is pulling companies to account. we need to fix this issue. it has grown a lot since my very angry i just went on twitch a days and to what it is now. and i'm really proud of it. and i'm so proud of the women who have made it what it is today as well, which is a fully fledged nearly not for profit organization with a number of women working on the campaign almost full time. and we do things like sex education programs as goals, face programs to help officers deal with victims of image based, sexual abuse, raising awareness and helping out within government and consulting all different, not just ations time. so let, let me,
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let me see how are you? i'm good, how are you? yeah, good by comments back. thank you. how's your week been busy but not too bad. okay. how's your yeah busy to and i mean that's just so much it isn't ever that. so it says who about so much today. so sounds good. mm. right. so, should be something doing a little bit of an update. yeah. so we're currently working on inferencing and the piece of legislation, and i'm in the campaign that we're working on has been really effects to is because we have had some survivors come forward. it just really underlines how out of touch, not just the legislation is, but the way that policy makers lawmakers are thinking about the subject. it's not practical. and what were you hoping to happen? so our inforcement measure is that just not strong enough. it looks so great on paper, but it's not so it's sort by people, by thinking with legal minds and thinking with policy minds, not people that actually on living those experiences. we're at
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a stage now where we have to start tackling prevent. yeah. i'm, we're not doing that on top phones, and that was literally the crux of the campaign and myself today, it was about damage prevention rather than damage control. it was preventing this content from being allowed to be uploaded to these websites. because as soon as they do, they can be downloaded and then re upload it over and over again, and you'll just paying what time all were facing an academic of deep se pornography. fabulous. who is being done to challenge the existence of the websites that are dedicated to the shaving, all deep fate pornography. and that simply because governments and politicians have not yet taken the action to try and stop those websites, we couldn't do it if we wanted to bought governments and publishes a choosing not to. i think the real reason. so this is the cost of vast,
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overwhelming majority of victims or women, abuse and harms of women are just not taken sufficiently seriously. women are still marginalized, often vulnerable of discrimination, as it goes in society. and what happens is that new ways are phones to exploit those vulnerabilities and to pass the treat forms of violence and abuse. at the moment to the internet, companies and porn platforms are living their best life earning millions of money with very missile regulation whatsoever. is up to governments across the world to take action to regulate those companies in the same way that we regulate cars, we regulate trains, we regulate the ovens that we took on every night. we need to regulate the internet and we need to get governance to take by the
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where a modern world for ever changing. and we want to see more young women in politics. it's really important that we have a diverse representation of people in our society. and our governments, but when you're a younger woman, i think a lot of people, maybe it's my belief that you don't have a great experience or understanding, but i think young voices should be included. hey, my are we'll get. well, that's great for here today. i'm seeing is old again. i know you guys have been so passionate about including young people and their voices and politics. so i thought today would be a good opportunity to sort of talk about issues that matter to austin. i think the government's a minute or so under represented. i think that leads to a lot of legislation been passed that um taylor's demand and it's written for man by man. yes, we need to have it equal. we've come a long way,
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but i think there's still so far to go. but that's why the purpose so good in the case applicant for, you know, such a diverse range even in our youth group, should we do. and we really want to say diverse representation that reflects our ever changing sort of society after the last election. we really want to date or we can't tackle massage they in society and online skill level. encourage me to say we like you can educate teresa. so media and you can spread our message, i mean, given all of what's happened to me, i think the fact that we haven't seen a change in law is extremely disappointing. if i had the power to change and have the law, i would do it right away. i think our government has a role in a job here and i think that they need to step in and i think that will been
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impacted by these issues. need to be at the table talking about how to fix them. ok . okay, everyone. thank you so much appreciated your time. it was great. thank you. the the so it was $10.00 to $20.00 and we had just had a mazda victory in point have deleted 80 percent of that content. overnight 10000000 video is gone. the unfortunately, like for the anything they were very small amount of people, particularly on twista who was very happy at that point had been deleted. and so i became public kind of mean them, but they decided to target me and teach me
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a lesson. and then what they found my home address on my web address and they posted it onto the test and said that they were going to follow me home, write me film it and upload it to point hub, which was gary. and then they decided to take one of the entries i've done on the u. k. news channels and integrate that into the take pulling and create a narrative. the reason why i've wants to get rid of the pulling i'm pulling up was because i create support until myself and i was just trying to get it off the internet. and so they just tried to switch up that narrative and it was a way to just silence me. so that video on twitter, of so many things that run through you've had enough of and one of them being, oh my god, like, who's that mine? who's recording this? and then oh my god, it's on the internet. oh my god, how to, how do i get this off?
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one side come down and those questions, it stops it letting you realize, okay, this copy real cuz i don't have the on the 20th those questions. and so when i realized it was a deep fake questions and shift to keep this slight relief, but not for very long, because then got the question off. okay, but it looks really real people guns thinks are, is actually made because that's going to do the same damage and i knew that the place where it comes to anything i had enough experience with this kind of stuff at that point that i knew they wouldn't do anything i knew there was nothing i could say or do i could keep pushing the narrative of that's not me. that's helped me. but it didn't really matter if it was or it wasn't because people going to believe what they want to believe. i am furious. it's exhausting to go through the stay in the out and has so many victims survivors. when we have such a limited capacity to support, then we have to say to them the system is fighting you and we will do our best to
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support you, but doesn't limit to what we can do because the route to justice is just, it's not really that that terrifies me, but that can be westernized to try and shot somebody. yeah. it's a big reason why, you know, i am so tired and i, i'm ready to step down because actually we should have to been doing this in the 1st place. no, but you shouldn't have to worry about being deep faith because you're a come painter. they should be situations that we do not have to fight for. like that's not our job. it's not within our job. to be honest with you. i actually get a lot most kids every time i do an interview like this, because they could see you and started it because i'm putting myself
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back into it and back in the kind that creates more and that's scary to me. the more looking home now i'm sorry, i didn't realize i was going to cry for to do it. yeah. tell me, tell me when it's important to do it. it's important to a spend time spent the last 4 years asking women to share that stories. because as people we listen to stories and stories make change for me not to do that when it is like what a hypocritical move the deep sleep pornography is being used to harass women holidays to harass women off the in tonight. so all of off are in coverage in our public and democratic minds, the items. so i agree,
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i don't think that it was so the rage, i sell the women and girls that have to keep them cited to keep them submissive. something that might have done that attenuation the we haven't seen any law changes to protect other women who could be the victim of this, this horrible thing that isn't considered a crime. so her life to vary in someone's life and just get away with it. because i'm not the 1st and i knew when will be the last the
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even that if it's a very clean diebold boss on the fraction of them to find a waste of them. okay. so what happens to that? they are thrown away to change this. people in the name is eco indeed the 30 minutes on d w the
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