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population. and because of that, it was important to let's see, eliminate him from the political fuel. so what's it like to live with a government that kills its political opponents, unseen from moscow? why the southern states of warnings find nato officials about a russian attack over the next few years? what does a know we done and the color slick of welcome to complex. i don't think so it's it's much, it's time for presidential elections in russia of letting me a put in once a 5th time. that'd be a pause and always gets what he wants is this is close to absolute power as it gets in russia. yes. so this is one more step to choose absolute power. but so when we're asking our sales, where was this 20 points for she seems as a decrease of michigan mostly because the development of his interview was

somewhere in the year 2020. when she called the referendum about some of the med, most of the constitution, both of may think about 0 and copious present initial terms. and now she is over to our little president and the after that all the doors were open for any steps. functions sites like to this war of february 20 to 22 in questioning of no other means the same year 2020 it doesn't have much to do with democracy. it does it. these elections even mr. perkins spokesman. dimitri pest golf, tell the new york times last year, presidential election isn't really a democracy. it's a costly bureaucracy. so why bother with this show? because so this is one more attempt to, to demonstrate to the majority of the rough can population that they, they are still the majority, which is obedience,

indifference and ready to continue to accept the contents initiatives. and this is important, that's minority minority is a must understand that they are still minorities. now it's a can to influence and i think is this country because we have a majority which is in flash which supports proteins. so nothing to do with this political system. we can't change and i think because of that, so this election starts to know significant is the same times. it's just one more really rounds aflac. why not to, to repeat this kind of really and to refresher as a legitimacy or for your to correct. oh, credible candidates of uh, being eliminated way before the polling stations open bar. it's not just in the end table candidate. he was disqualified by the state because some traction for a while. was he a, a threat?

was he deemed the threat addition was squares attracted to the public who was liberal views and you know, in the rush or is there a 1000000 of people who are sharing to liberal pro the critic pro western and to pretend the vision of the world. and because of that, in addition was kind of a fault for this people wednesday sun and it's pushing it and it was understandable . that's a criminal decide. it's not till ocean to participate because she puts it undermines the feeling of absolutes comes to the dish and around put him in a case of getting i don't know, $56.00, even 10 percent a man into it means that to pretend he's not the only one who is so who deserves. so the supports and there are people with the enter your agenda not to mention that and zip case. and that doesn't include demonstrates end to your agenda via television. and the code says shake because of use. so for the majority,

which is still not connected to the tv set. so, so with no, those are decided not to, not to risk. you run that slide risk. i'm alexa in the bottom, a dead and a prison camp in the optic circle. once he ever really i'm electro threat to prove to or was it that he and all those like him, we're never going to be allowed to get anywhere near that status. the only didn't have an opportunity to participate in the legal political process. but so when she does participate in the year 2013, during most goes mayor's elections, he was extremely efficient. astonishingly efficient for kremlin and death resistance. they decided to not to allow him to participate in any kind of like options. so she was the real threat to put to getting them to some moments. so moment to the means that pasta the whole political process reduced,

busy. now this is fine between the fall knee and pollution. and is that sense even being can prison that when it was a threat to push in that competitor, maybe invisible in an information field about the same time, quite mighty and square to compress it for, for the parts of the population. and because of that, it was important to, let's see, eliminate him from the political field. do you by the story that he was about to be swapped for a kayla. so having time in germany, due by that story of, we don't know the truths may be, will know nowadays, but it looks like global story. and in this sense, simple, it wasn't requested dance. uh that she was,

let's say maybe killed maybe by some maybe something else. so we have to wait for some results sofa. she's still able to search. true. maybe is the gym to clear up some good deals. and i found this family is pretty clear and his colleagues are pretty clear that the state did kill him. you wouldn't seriously argue with that, would you? i would say likely. so the experience of this regime demonstrates that it's as possible. let's remember as a case of st policy or any other cases and put in several times to repeat it to you are anxious, courier that the, my pets, realty color oriented oregon. since people do that. but these and because of that, among people with uh, let's say liberal views, there is no doubt. that's why they put the keels. uh, no,

no, we don't have the controls if evidence of it so, but the feeling is very strong. come on. russian civil society. we know that they tried and failed to kill him back in 2020 and we know because the millions listen to a government assessment describing his previously unsuccessful attempt to kill him about a little realizing that he was actually talking to him about the i'm being recorded by him at the time. so nobody's going to believe any government denials of a underscore. uh, you know, which means what do we mean by nobody. and because of the majority still prefers to believe friendly and unofficial version, or prefer us not to think about this. the horrible story you know, so low to for russian so they didn't know about the place and things that i didn't know about that the so it's not what it means. it in this

a count on your arctic circle, but the majority prefers not to boulder itself. uh uh, not to pay too much attention to, to this for us in order to keep for themselves mentally normal. um the subsea more old, but the majority prefers not to know. and it seems about, uh like, uh, uh cuz you know what his stay with his dad says that the red cetera. and because of that, that's more about belief with disbelief amongst people with the normal view. so he's democratic fused record by from a lawyer at the human rights group. memorial said if they could kill no violently, they could kill anybody else. if he's right. where does all this and all the killings all the political prisoners. why does this end?

i know the real threat is 2 political prisoners, i'm sure we don't have a political position in the appropriate sense of civil worth right now because of a high level of for patients kyra's in the in names a substitute new new orleans or last year or so for his existence and i, i, i would say that unfortunately, for instance, people like to let him know cut them. it was a, or, yeah, yes, one could be under threats. and not everyone in dissidence community, but uh, the main of the most local people from mazda political, a position, because barto was a political position as a broad sub parts. so for the leaders that are in prison. so for people who are in prison, so there was a real threat, i think unfortunately, you spoke of the found this funeral about moral resistance among the population, people carrying flowers and candles to his memorials. how much of that more

resistance is the less than russia? i guess trends of sorts moral because as i said, political position isn't so efficient right now. and this is more about a moral resistance and about political resistance. this people can fight as they don't want to find for power. they don't have for literacy, they don't have organizations which are totally liquidated by the regime, even small in jewels. but the joseph no only demonstrates as a funeral from the dentist way to that this civil society still here. we must be for a society of such which is very different from the passive and the full of confirm is and that civil society, the society of responsible citizens who, to who for the best, who for the country whore in

a permanent order because of this war they've demonstrated that they are here, it was actually a rich step for people club for, for we're going to was a funeral because of the, the face recognition system is working and sometimes policemen are coming to the, to the plants. so it was this people after a different kind of evidence of funerals like the link flowers as a man, as a place, as of man, there we go, for political repression, such cetera, cetera. so if you want to see the so civil society of the russia, we can open, for instance, the website over then for was so is it concrete statistics about persecutions, about criminal prosecutions, administrative persecutions? extrajudicial persecution spent a lot of examples of these kind of problems for russian citizens, but she resist civil society, which is still ready to resist. and i'm ready to at least to

think of all the constitution, think about so as a responsibility, collective responsibility. you, you talked about nevada and these legacy. i'd like to know how long you think it will last. isn't it inevitable that as the years go by, that will be less and less opposition morrow or real refreshing works 1000 it repressions efficient? yes. for business work, but at the same time uh, this fatigue from room is also sheer. and in a case of mine, there was successful for a civil society and demonstration that was to use uh, some people cough. hesitating, hor, pacific one for me. so as a count shares of use. so for this x, if a single society activities a so in that sense are actually isn't hopeless and i've seen it with just like and

so the times we went minerals, people were ready for changes coming. gorbachev key when government literature for took the power ends is be a bunch of population, is also ready for changes, but so, you know, in current circumstances kind of a single though must came from the very top. and the was out a change in the 1st person, i guess. so the serious changes in russia are impossible. that right now, extraordinary efforts and you've outlined some of them to, to clamp down on even the slightest infractions of this expanding penal code that the authors keep adding to. we hear of teachers in schools reporting a 1011 year old pupils to the security police books, a band people arrested on the metro because they were reading something. but the fellow passengers didn't like every case pursued with the utmost vigor and

brutality. and i suppose my question is, is the state really that's in secure about it's, hold on paul, and it's people, you know, it smarter bell cell development of the russian style. all sorts here is my would say this is not simply and assorted terrorism is more about a name, it's high, but it's authoritarianism. say me to tell it there it is because the state is trying to infiltrate into all this for yourselves, a private life of people you to want it wants to control, for instance, seaters repair to ours. uh, uh, book markets, libraries, etc, etc. but nevertheless, the societies mother and licenses or the well educated society and people are trying to keep for the private space to see more on more or less normal situation. and it looks us to print it's some, some movies are pretty cool cause appear in this such

a strange hospitality around space. so yeah, is there a difference the threat slight denunciations from your competitor else? but nevertheless, it is still, it is still civil society and i can repeat it, it is not so hopeless and get the chance survives this period. but the, the space of labor to you for free to my scenario is this is through. but if you wants to do something, you can try and some people are trying to, to write to articles to be vocal, to, to, to talk, at least to talk about the current situation. it's, it's not a dresser, it's not help does it by the fact that so many ordinary citizens appeared, willing to inform on each other on their colleagues and their families and their friends. how destructive is that to the fabric of russian society destroys trust

of the yes, a strong as to the trust is not so the strong side of the society is a trust each other. but some people simply prefer not to talk with unknown persons . they prefer to talk and also who they are trying not to be so vocal sitting in congress for instance, to say preferred not to discuss political issues. this is true, but you know, it's the same time uh again who, who wants to resist can try to do it. for instance, if there is such a new magazine which was initiated by the noble lord, it's a mr. more auto for me is a title going to be in the corporation was gonna butcher foundation. and this is one of the attempts to, to, to, to,

to create something to you. even in this circumstance. there was some problems with this magazine, but it is still in the fields. so why not to transfer this whole thing? uh and uh, this it's, it's a, it's contribute. so something like hope for the future. when we talk about hope, let's also talk about the war and ukraine, which has, of course, exacerbated the repression level good costs. leading russian sociologist says there's a high degree of support for the war highest among the educated and the educated in moscow does not surprise you. yes. is there a lot of surprising stories, especially in the field of mess, psychology, miss, so, so latrine and uh, you know, this is all about people who are afraid of changing their life. they are trying to

avoid problems with themselves, which means that as a full flip, say, double thinking of a pretending the war doesn't exist. so they can to avoid the mentioning fee to thinking about the boats. they trained not to do it publicly. maybe the same people, but who they want to continue as a career, as for instance, in the university. so something like that, but as a, a private spacing, their quizzes selected to us in soviet time. so they can discuss freely the current situation with the core, with the some assessments which are not public. let's see, this is more about privates assessments private life. so this is more about double thinking. you said, recent pay that pretend has made clear russia is fighting a permanent background war with the west. that argument gives his image ration on

his way to maintain power. that's put in one that war and you'll view oh yes, she wants me. she's a man in the street, or i'm sure is that, and is this personal, this decreasing, put in was the main source of, of this war? was this idea. ology, which justifies for the russian id, was a nation, atlanta and national list account, imperialistic ideas, very archives, and the deals to the, to the, to tradition, send us spiritual values, etc, etc. and she must invent. so the google for the society. so it's just not coping is more capitalism and they invented some travelling, this permanent for, it was the best, the best was also taking us. so we must defense our sales. and even though we're expansion expansions, this is kind of, it is, this is more about defense. and uh,

the reason the reports re, so i'm sorry to interrupt you, reset the intelligence reports in the west of suggested russia intends to double the number of its troops on the border with the baltic states and finland. and people have spoken officials, government officials in several countries have spoken of the fact that that could possibly be attacked by russia on the nato countries over the next few years. how plausible do think that these things is suspicious. p r. o to be so then to to, to, to, to look so mighty, so impressive. uh, uh, and i guess he wants to create i am, she's a political philosophies. this is a part of russia for sure. and she wants to return as transfer, as he says. so this territories, she doesn't care about the baltic states freelance or, or pulled this as

a loop service in my opinion. she will not have enough resources for one more flank, one more front. uh, she simply wants to continue. this permanent poor was the best as a goal for the society, but at the same time, in the practical terms and apply it to her. and she doesn't want to to take the for instance, voltage stays because it will mean the real world was native. it would be much more serious. so that's just sort of attrition. what is your brain? does nato look weak to russia to put in a not so we could but to what was this very majority of the society, which in looks like a strong man. chloe, who is equal to tomato nicer. the smarter both human show for the main. and i mean, the night of states of america native in europe is kind of such a line of uh,

of nato in the ends of united states. you said last months that despite old a new career, se but rattling but we've heard from fulton, they don't want the afraid of nuclear war. what makes you so sure of that uh, the you know, so as you settled, they must understand that. so even the use of the technical no ukes could be suicidal for uh for say, a resume for a country. uh they want to leave for they want to enjoy this life and because of that. so yes, so the, so nuclear black mailings, you square, it's impressive and quite effective as it is quite effective because it's presented to prevents as the west from giving the sophisticated weapons to you. correct? yes. as a problem for actually. so that's a very conversations that talk about the nuclear work became such a light. my talk,

we can do it. why not? this is a main danger to proceed the domestic public so that it is possible. this is a danger. a british historian wrote recently that society is like russia, autocracies, don't bend, but they can break. do you believe that after all russia has broken, the soviet union broke up the button wall came down, communism was denounced as a failed experiment. under what circumstances do you think russia could conceivably come apart? now, you know, when we're talking about this, the future ends, the behavior of our lights. they're behaving like that, according to the drover up in order to look after us as it is a slot. and in that sense, they hopelessly, as they have enough resources to continue this work until the physical end of uh,

putting them to his team. but uh, the resources could be depleted and the next generation though, for petitions they will have to take responsibility for the country. fully european security and this as an interest of the west, coca cola and interest, the mutual interest of the russians, the west said to have a new generation of people who can recreate discounts for you from 0. this. let me pull count because the resources i'm not to the terminal. so the bills are full. russia, that's the alexa and the value talked about does exist somewhere down the line and you'll view it exists in the, in the soul southern brain. so for protein mccray to russians as they are here and those they will be ready for changes when the time will count. i'm very classic of thank you very much for being on complex, so thank you. thank you for having me here.

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