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is also crazy the up to many, many years later maybe we, when we recognized that the moment when everything change in size use you guys do everything we assume is we have to 1st of all understand that this is going to happen. many technologists try to solve human problems using technology when actually what we need are human solutions. ok?
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just to, to edit the question is, what does it mean to be human? what are the things always to be proud to offer shows because it's that i find this moment externally profound because it gets really forced us to think to exactly what pushes. this is what makes humans human scale to see if there's a whole lot at stake here. careers unbelievable amounts of money and who gets to shape the future calls the and it's already become
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a global race for supremacy in the age of artificial intelligence. china, the united states and the european union of buying for economic growth, political influence and power. so other big tech companies and style shops, a horse on the hills for those who lose go be no 2nd chances. jonas andrew was founded one of the most influential european companies with his health, the european union, could catch up with the world's i. lead is become independent from the us and china, secure press, press future, reduce it, sorry. this is a watershed moment or you are all right for the last it roll the dice. europe wants to decide how to use technology in accordance with european values, content. it has to be able to build that technology itself. it's thomas was because founded housing space. it's a major open source, a platform. he wants to store one of the most powerful technologies in human
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history from ending up in the hands of a few corporations. for point, i guess we need the multitude of players, the not just one of the times i, i, we don't want a future with such a fundamental technology because in the hands of a single company, there are plenty of films where that's the market, the distorted piano one company that controls everything, everything descriptions, the show is a chinese entrepreneur. he wants his company g, a i to be successful on both the wisdom and chinese markets. so what role the chinese i companies play in this global race? and how is the chinese communist party using them to achieve its political goals, try to be po, to before it basically serve as a brain. and this brain cannot be made to us, right? so this is some worries that the chinese government has the culture of each country,
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right? how each government loans this country well eventually be reflected into this brand . it is absolutely clear that of the highest levels of leadership in the united states and, and china, artificial intelligence is viewed as foundational to the future of economic and military power. how much i'm good enough to not to produce. we've created an economic and financial system that's based on the assumption that everything's going to keep running smoothly as possible. we get gas from russia, we americans look after us, so we don't need to spend money on our. most of the china is always friendly from google and we've gotten comfortable just kind of a know we have to break out of that comfort and safeguard, and we can go on the political offensive again. we can compete and we can create competitive conditions here. and you know, we can meet sure that the cool companies we have do. you can also grew and play a role in the global market and which that's already be made clear. and it's like
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the at the end of 2023 gym and vice chancellor role, the topic made significant progress towards these to your political goals. i left alpha a gym and i, i company raised around half a 1000000000 euros from invest it's it was one of the largest around severe pain financing for a technician intelligence technology. and it was a signal that the european union can produce elite players in the field of a lot of offers founder and ceo is eunice andrew let's he's given priority to investment from jim and industry is a p. bush and the shops. quick return supermarket. retail is legal and coughlin, a drama
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telephone go. i was an amateur radio enthusiast with that i soldered radios together and built my own in tennis. we early on and my father had computers at home. so i was able to start programming and playing around with them at a very young age. that's the biggest audits in cops today. when we started out on the term jenner today i didn't exist. hardly anyone had heard of open a i was we were very technical. if you knew we managed to create category to finding innovations. we were just nerds. researchers on developers, runs the deluxe one voice, and there were time out of stuff. and that, to me, it's like the cambrian explosion right now. the effects was an incredible amount of new and creative things or emergency this. and we're the only europeans to be involved on this scale or the bias. the assumption that it was an exciting develop
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the we also have things like loop in the and maybe hours where even cooler looking, what is missing and what i think deserves more attention to you is, is why there are not more domestic companies that actually grow. and scale, a lot of company leaders start up innovators end up going to be us and the access to capital is really one of the main challenges in see dozens of, of us via most this is called long, tasty. but if you look at what we did, i think it's enabling technology almost because what i need for that is a carefully selected effective team of brilliant researchers. most cool, then i need money. a, b, i could add some more money than you normally get. as a german started up, we'd love all of these days. we're talking about billions and then kaufman, and then you need partners to help you to use, which is the kind of help that money can't buy me. i've opened a uh,
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it doesn't just get 10000000000 for microsoft them. it also gets incredible support in integrating its technology into all microsoft products and platforms online to phones. at the time i left off, i had 60 employees at various locations, most for the company's headquarters in hardback in southwest gemini. on like open i drew this wasn't gearing, he say i towards private uses the draw the industry and the public sector. but they tend to be sluggish. and not easy to notice on that post a challenge for you on a central unless he needed pilot projects to prove his technology, works them as a huge stand here and you're greeted by a virtual person has own underscore low. may i help you? where do you want to go? then i can use the screen. we have to keep moving in this direction. that's not good. that's my job. i is this time. i know it is what it is now i have for the store. very happy to still have you. if you just,
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you would probably be taking her well earned retirement soon. it's become a standard questions before i ask if you'd like to stay on a little longer. i'm not fired because i need you because there aren't enough skilled workers coming in, not because as of it's a big issue. as this phone space changed to important for us, so child has to be done on the solidarity does the tradition. of course the main topic is innovation. innovation. title back is one of the 1st municipalities in the world to introduce in a us citizen assistant using a language model provided by alice alpha and pock know, and quincy with whom do combines um, we have a partner, a customer with whom we can look at these new technologies, they also act as a testimonial for us, you're lucky cause if anyone can go and try it out with us, that's a huge advantage to that one's on because a lot of our customers don't want to be named right now and it's like they don't want people to know exactly what they're doing. so it's great to have
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a pilot customer with a bit of vision encourage. he's on the, on the teachers. the hope is that in the long term, i will improve public administration and speed up services deep. i'm 45, i'm card sets, i just entered a question motor vehicle traffic on the be 37 by which is the busy road and then i get it to search or of course, that's a very general question. the see the question now is what point in time is 75? that's what we're talking today or annually milan. so then it's of course the i has to work out what the user actually wants basically won't be. $37.00 is closed between 7 am and 6 pm. trudy up. now i can ask, how do i apply for child depend if it's not good, that's why it's on the test. wasn't the right time, sir. you can't find anything now i'm at them. so the error messages that we get back from the public, i'm from tests we do ourselves get passed on to alpha alpha to figure out what needs to change to make the inputs more accurate. 60, it's always about the accuracy of the inputted. i emailed it so you can always cut
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down about the technology is still in the test face and not yet liable. 2023 was a delicate time for alpha, alpha, eunice. andrew is needed fresh money from invest. it's. meanwhile, microsoft and open i, we're getting more of an advantage. in fact, the race starts today and we're going to move, we're gonna move fast. and for us, every day, we want to bring out new things. on march 14th, 2023. can i release check g p t for the most powerful artificial intelligence? today's just at the same time, greatly reduced cost, since we use it for you in a central us. and his team was a threat to the business model, provide the problem about fly fishing from the district office on the floor. okay. and it goes on file is huge awhile in the depths west out. it is
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we from play in this cool, clear water is well i stay, i am the fish for these, the silver 3. why lights a dream or so it seems a whiny being sleek and sly. was ancient instincts to live and die. yeah, goes on. yeah. well, yeah, they see the sub i had i went to an apartment with a number of colleagues and we watched on it on a big project to screen the night spent of 254. someone had a chat to be part of a time so they could use to before we could play with it. and we were like, very impressed and surprised by how good it was. it's not upsetting when someone comes up with a great piece of technology because with researches and building technology and that's how it is. you know, when you're a violinist and you go and you watch the amazing saturday by an incredible fall in
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. if you don't feel, you know, i should, it's all give up. you know, it's inspiring. i was a little stressed out. yeah. i was in the middle of conversations but potential investors business partners. and i knew that and every conversation i was, i was going into, somebody would say it, but it would have wanted to build t v t for mice 2 years ago. got $200000000.00 be the 1st model at that level of capabilities out of height above, out of out of europe. it costs a lot of frustration in the team and i saw that that's painful to see. and in fact, comparing open i was left also was absurd. open. i was almost half owned by chick john, microsoft, which had pumped over $10000000000.00 into the company. you're in a central us head, raise just 28000000 euros. still,
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he wanted to take them on the stain on the enrollment at oak. besides you were all under enormous pressure. we're fighting for survival. how we've created something, world class with a lot less money shopping because we're basically at the forefront on the highest level classes on this. but we all know that there's now a wave of microsoft money rolling towards us and we can't do anything to stop it. even eastern game has been cutting me so easy to stick, especially i might find it difficult to make really french without being visuals everywhere. yeah. because yeah, well you understand truly this was feeling the heat from industry, top dogs,
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microsoft and open i, thomas, who was more relaxed, he co founded hunting face, which has 200 employees and offices in paris, new york. and to them, the company has built a successful platform with programs and companies can share i models and further develop the fields or feed the mission and the values that we push activity. very european by some way of being careful about the data, trying to build something responsible, you know, and not just go fast and break it a centrally bit today on like how long they all never. stephanie and the american values and chunk g b take with us on course. and we wondered whether we could set up a project to analyze and document that the benchmark, for example, is concerned with benchmarks that could show whether a model has. i'm the american, french or german by the and was concerned with the full say one moment to say, presenting itself with it. it would be interesting to do a comparative study between chat g p t and bloomed chat. wouldn't to present this
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if you ask a question in different languages, how different are the answers depending on the kind of question. so could you do is the approach more american or european? that would be an interesting study success as content i saw the assignment, you don't see, it looks good. i need some divider difficult when i talk about liberalism of values . and i mean that every population in the world has its own value system. one, the nice thing that we have a lot of different nationalities here, and we have to ask ourselves, but what are our values, phone, what's important to us, the ultimate sticks boxing you up from, like, your startups, germany, that file size already i would say a big player, in your case study, to use obviously very visible player here in your in friends and this is mr. riley
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is new player in finance. so i know in almost every year different countries us yet this one all to like stand up with this. ah, yes, i'm vision to become until to build something big smith as idealistic as thomas and his team from hugging face appear. there is also criticism open sol, so not the end result is that a small release of tech professionals is determining what all future looks like and what risks will expose to 20 business bunkers. welcome and use it. before fall, the business people i need to say we need education is, society has to educate itself. we only create the system from could or you could design those systems in different ways. for example, you can make it so that a person can understand what's going on. so at least a little because this could be one of the obligations we impose on the industry that we'd love to do. do you guys show cooper? then it was honestly, i think when i said this of the machine could you, i like,
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you know, these are these machines and price. how to control knowledge. i'm a created by mathematicians who don't know anything about culturally i didn't. what's a bit of an exaggeration, of course, that isn't that we have to find ways of explaining this to people who aren't interested in the math. phase one up, they just use the machines as tools, you need 6. they need to understand where the limits on quickly, in which situations machine will want to walk through mascot team of just like with t p. s devices. yes. before we recognize when they give us the wrong route shipments, you'd be hesitant to sweep up. this isn't a great, that's a huge percentage field is opening up some service. you know the, there's also huge calls opening on who's actually responsible me and somebody. because as a developer or researcher, you have a certain responsibility. it's not about restricting research comes with. but when the applications that are harmful to society, we have to be aware of bathrooms. so in the 1st to yeah, and put that there was
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a huge potential for manipulation. just to think of the influence of track g, p t on the election is probably not. i think there needs to be an answer though, and it's get more education symbols. that's a good topic before the upcoming elections. what education do we need to stop us being manipulated? computed same type goals costume because best 2 companies will come on. that's a big question. keep them what happens when people start asking i who they should vote for? because the aisle and we'll get them and also as towards task. and of course, who decides how it's on says yeah, who should decide that? well, unfortunately, i have no answer to that as we by the way polls. but the processor generally is developing a breathtaking speech and take joints the baffling is out in the ring. that's spearing development even more. there's a massive new mock it up for grabs. leading i
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expect it's more, it's a big take. and it's egan is to compete. is creation technologies beyond the control? i think we've made a mistake when mice, me this country man, uh carl funnel in a us brand that our species is homeless. sapient seconds means of thinking home. all of the, the smart one, right? we're not going to be the smartest anymore. maybe we should rerun ourselves to homeless sentence. the feeling human. we can feel curiosity, meaning purpose, love. that is what really makes us unique. the wasn't ask, how can we keep control over the machines so that we can using the tools to build the world or wherever we can really avenue in flourishing. positive experiences the in 2014. when i found that the future life is that it was quite happy to,
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to even talk about a safety at all. because that would imply that it wasn't co if it's and a lot of researchers thought that it would be bad for funding. and the only weird people worried about this it was very much like it coming out of the closet moments to be able to sign this letter and say, oh you too are words i'm thinking should slow down a little bit. oh, i didn't know that. and then it suddenly became become socially acceptable. max take mock and his future of life institute published an open letter warning, the artificial intelligence, post, and existential change it to humanity. civilization itself could be under threats. the letter was signed by hundreds of ivory searches and take industry latest,
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including tests the boss and its own. i eat on mosque, apple co founder, steve wozniak and touring award winner. joshua, ben g o n. it's been quite shocking that once we put this letter out and i'm kind of a who is, who are they? i research assigned that and the conversations where they exploded might cause significant. we've field the technology industry costs significant harm to the world. i think that happened a lot different ways. it's why we started the company. i think if this technology goes wrong, it can go quite wrong and we want to be vocal about that. we want to work with the government. i think he was serious about that. a, i think that's
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a kind of so he wasn't able to think central risks and i also believe there are potential risks there also a whole spectrum of other risks and i know somebody talk to him a couple of times about this. you know, she very much recognizes them as well. on the one hand, of course, of these warnings about the major power of this new technology also amplify the significance of the products that these people are building. so it could also have an in direct marketing effect, right? like look at the incredible things that we're building. but also let's make sure that nothing goes wrong. and for that they look to the politicians. the net effect of us could be that if heaven forbid something goes wrong, they could say, well, we warn you, but the politicians did not act or they did not act in time. so i'm looking at a paper here and title large language models trained on media diets can predict public opinion. this is just posted about a month ago. this work was done at mit and then also it at google. the conclusion is that large language models can indeed predict public opinion. i'm,
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i want to think about this in the context of elections. should we be concerned about models that can large language models that can predict a survey opinion and then can help organizations into these find 2 strategies to elicit behaviors from voters? should we be worried about this for our elections? yeah, i think senator holly for the question is, it's one of my areas of greatest concern that the more general ability of these models to manipulate, to persuade, to provide sort of one on one, you know, interactive, this information. i'm nervous about it. i think people are able to adapt quite quickly when photoshop came onto the scene a long time ago. you know, for a while, people were really quite fooled by photoshop images and then pretty quickly developed an understanding that images might be photoshop. this will be like that, but on steroids and the, the inner activity and the ability to really model predict humans well,
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as he talked about, i think is going to require a combination of company is doing the right thing, regulation and public education. the 2024 is the crucial election year, not only in the united states, but worldwide. there will be european parliament's elections. there will be elections in india. i mean, it's a large amount of people in the world will actually go to the polls. and while we're living in this big experiment where it's very hard for independence, researchers, journalist, civil society organizations to pro these models that we may only find out, you know, what the, what the harms and, and malign uses as a weapon against democracy were when it is too late and shortly off to
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some old men at p before the us senate. he co signed a statement along with a number of high ranking executives from google, microsoft and other tech companies. the fact that it was the companies who themselves were asking for this type of regulation. and then with the leading researchers who were asking for the government to get involved. that really was the turning point in the conversation to understand the effect. the generative a i was having behind the scenes of global politics at the time. you have to travel to a small swedish city called lou la, around a $150.00 columbus of south of the arctic circle. when people say that artificial intelligence is going to be like the next industrial revolution,
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i think they're under estimating its impact. it's not just going to be a new technology like the steam engine. it's like building a new species. especially if it's much smaller than us. president vipers himself was having meetings on artificial intelligence, in some cases, as often as 3 times per week. and i will tell you that not very many things get on the president's calendar for 3 times a week. may 31st 2020 to 3, the sirens and most of kate's to send to them. the swedish coastal c. c gave a sense of how much was at stake. lead is came here to discuss nothing less than how humanity should react to the arrival of this new will be honest, official full of intelligence, what role she politicians play, democracy needs to show that we are as fast as technology you. so the 1st and
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that's a on an ascii flagpole. so 6 months you, so yesterday, a number of very, very insightful people signing up to say you need to do something for the very existence or risks. and then you have the non essential risk as well. why it's important for the european union to have a common policy with the us concerning a i, and should in other parts of the globe included in the conversation your vision important . but this is bigger than your us as important. but it is because i'm the us, but it's the 2 of us take the leads with close friends. i think we can push something that will make us hold much more comfortable with the fact that in order to have a i is now in the world. and is developing at amazing space you understand truly this was also invited to the top level meeting in sweden to
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represent the views of you repeat and i stuff ups and cold for food competition, competitors. another code you have the name of the above. you can, of course, there are other a i companies in europe in this, but we're the one that's keeping pace the most with the global leaders all this, but i assume that's the reason why we're here. not because we're so charming. and so someone's that just trying to change coming in some industry, how do you feel about that? we can raise more compet. so yeah, um i think we have to 2 weeks ago i was at that fi conference as a piece of fi conference and custom klein when he's opening key note he kind of said our key partners. fortunately, the i are all of all thought google and microsoft, you know, and then file with past events coming up with, with
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h. b with antonio neary. what are you thinking about the, the i'll call in some of your other come here from and so i'll fix it right and latest statements, etc. oh, these are the, the statements on like safety or. yeah, they like you yesterday and so on. it's long term. it is possible to conceive catastrophic events i've had and process and burden that. they basically are, are scared we will start with us on the list for the founder and ceo of, of alpha, before is yours and thank you very much for being with us today. all right, thanks for having me. i think we're all like a little bit dizzy. the speed of change like everybody i know that is in the eyes kind of stressed out. and with this technology we're only even just stretching the surface. i fear that knowledge work is an important part of what is happening in
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europe. so this is a, an opportunity for us to, to build you empires to build new value. but it's also a risk that we're losing a substantial pillar that we're standing on. thinking about how we can, how we can make this a fair playing field, because i think it's in everybody's interest that you're up. we'll continue to a safer future in a i, to me while the us in a you were trying to come up with a common strategy on the other side of the world in china, an artificial intelligence ecosystems emerging with its own set of rules. a high is a key part of china is if it's to become a global power. i always remember my mom and my dad push me in for this all in big
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school. the older to gach, specialize in mathematics and also english school as like a extra work size. it's a regular school work. so basically you have to take the lessons on saturday. we tend it makes me a quick learner and then my mom is correct. right? so in order to keep per grassy older, don't keep pushing yourself, you'll have to keep learning. and i always, i always tell my employees also to keep learning, to keep up this fast paced my father was a for pfizer in coming to science. so i, i'm very lucky to get in touch with a guy in the very early days back in 2009 i was trying to use um, a uh model is very simple. yeah. models nowadays, if you look from today's large language model perspective, that model is like a very simple, simple, like a small end hon show has worked
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in both the east and west. he sell positions that the chinese tech joined 10 cent and gym and online retailer salanda. 3 years ago he found that his own company, gina is an i. i stuff help with offices, insurance and, and beijing. but its headquarters are in berlin. oh, where do i get another interview here? why? yes, for the website, for the license which have been since you have insurance. and now this was also like employees experience. so people can see how it is to work a gina? yes, not the only for me. i need to respect. yes, i see. i see the problem, of course. so from india, isabella from sauls. yeah. from south africa. i lived in from felicia. right. jack moved from malaysia. michelle finally from germany. so they're supposed to be showing the progress of training the model. it's kind of like stock market,
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right? i see this model performs relatively good because you can see is increasing over time. but sometimes it's not very successful. for example, this one, this model will start very high by that the program is kind of stop the highest wasting our time is wasting that you feel resources, energy and so right and shown his team a working on optimizing models for specific applications. for example, linking text, video, and images. the goal is to make communication between humans and machines, more intuitive and natural. a lot of people may recognize this, this guy is, this is a, this has some kind of grandpa be, right. is always very popular on social media. right? so if you don't know this picture to the algorithm, it will generate have a star, it, it can generate a comedy at all because send us the holler all, all of this kind of story. so we just keep it default. and the way just to it
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wasn't supposed to be like this. i was meant for more. he whispered to the room, his words echoing into silence. i am more than the lonely man i've become. more than these disappointments, suddenly his eyes glinted a revelation, farming within his might. or perhaps it is time i show the world that again, with strengthened resolve, arthur placed the coffee down marketing into his solitary reflection in the beginning of a new chapter. so um, basically this is what you can do a way to push multi model in twice string, right? so you'd have see farm a single image, you are able to generate not only a text description, but uh, emotional audio, sorry, the
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eventually chinese company wellbeing, the medium position in just generally about 2 months ago i was, i think within team this was a i congress in shanghai and during the conference there was a certain, the large language models are released in on one day, some from becoming you select 10 sonata by, by do some also from like a middle sized companies from different industry even right now for example, if i'm back charges coming. yeah. you are the very good at learning from us. come right. so they kind of copycat what us company and then make it even better. i don't doubt that one day you will see while the top models in the benchmarks in their leaderboard actually from china. the question of which companies will terminate the age of artificial intelligence has
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real chia political consequences. china is using the expertise of it's tech companies to expand its power wisdom nations. meanwhile, a trying to count to this the . my name is jeffrey king. i was a long time journalist and foreign correspondent in china. i wrote a book called the perfect police state and i was an advisor to the us congress, to the house of representatives on sanctions and chinese politics. from what i have seen around the world in china and elsewhere. i am deeply concerned that we do not know how to manage a yet. we do not know what's coming in. we do not know how to rein in this technology and put it to the good use of our democracy.
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china has been leading in bringing technology under state control and in fact, using it as an instrument for state power, whether it is for internal control and censorship, and grip on society, or whether it is their global ambition to have digital infrastructure around the world. and to work with other countries. for example, i think about the effort and confidence it is, of course, the vision that is at direct odds with that of democratic societies in 2017 china is national strategy for artificial intelligence. and this is a public document set out the explicit goal of dominating global ai technology. and so i think the united states has explicitly set the goal that we are not going to assist china in rising as an a. i enabled authoritarian super i want to key in the past. it's been not u. s. companies that have on the line that government's policies in order to gain
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access to the massive chinese markets. foremost among them, microsoft, microsoft is the most pivotal and important western company. operating in china that has helped the chinese governments develop. it's a i this toby, a microsoft set up an office and in china called microsoft research asia. this was a gesture from bill gates back in the 1990 because he wanted to guarantee stronger market access to china. this laboratory has gone on to train the who's, who lists the superstars of the trainings, artificial intelligence world. many of the key people in this laboratory have gone on to found companies such as make the sense time or either either found them or they've taken on very senior roles. and then that was like the thing to base or off the more to try to use things are not all
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a and that's a lot of great people. great researchers start are foreigners actually come from microsoft resumes, as those tenants up and all become even kind of the very, very big influence or is opinion leaders. i'd really like to interpret new york in china. microsoft help build china's take relate. this in turn, has been used by the chinese government to create a gigantic surveillance stage that operates with the help of a i live in china in beijing, r as in j, who have found the most recent tv camera in the, in the work that i saw and the to be honest, like the general probably get used. so they don't see this as intrusion to their own privacy or heavy of a software that idolize their behavior. or, you know, because the kind of the narrative there was to protect it makes the society more
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secure for variety about protect, from terraces to and so on. so in general, like the public over the last to years has already accepted the fact that their us or be the right now we have like over $500.00 city or in across the country. that means was city, it's just like shanghai, they have a lot of big data analysis center. they collecting all this data from different areas and they have the machine, they have the light center, eyes it and, and do the computer patient analysis and making all these decisions. the chinese government has used all forms of a i so far they see a i is an extremely powerful tool that they can use for, for the military,
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for national security, for succeed surveillance, police work also the management of cities. traffic may have been selling these same technologies all over the world, especially to authoritarian governments with the promise of total surveillance and a nation free of crime free of this it in. so it's a brand new world because we have not yet found a solution to this in the west. the china is 14, you hate, the us is pursuing its own interests. and the e. u. is striving for independence. europeans don't play a pause in shaping this future technology, then it will be american or chinese i, i that will penetration our lives to an unprecedented extent. that will know us, as well as our closest friends and relatives will communicate through this around
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the clock and the influence of thoughts and actions to prevent the c e. u needs companies that cannot certainly program, but also build their own hardway infrastructure to keep highly sensitive dose so safe. a training high and a language models requires thousands of high performance graphics costs, which is also why supplies escapes. that's another reason why many smaller players allied themselves with launch tech companies can see the funding to use in both eyes kind of difficult either. let's move on a lot of the deals in the field of generative a in recent months have come at the cost of independence. many companies have partnered with large corporations by accepting restrictions on things like hardware
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selection, bias, cloud selection by category sion, i think we absolutely didn't want to do that as well. and as long as we both kind of fun was early on your own, a central is recognize the value of having one's own hardware. he built a doctor sent to his company in germany. for that reason i left alpha is becoming increasingly strategically important for politicians you've been in the media, the media talks about you is germany's answer to chat g p t. is that right? yes, it's 5 am. as i thought of, i was again to do it. i could have hoped me that's wrong and it doesn't seem that you could say germany's answer to open a i would do it by chat g b t is a product aimed at the consumers time. it gets really intended to help school kids do their homework or to write a poem for grandma's birthday and things like that. but that's not our target group
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at all and thoughts we want to go where the most complex and critical processes are . for example, in the financial industry, the in administration type and security and health care, that's where we want to build systems that assessment and support the people. and the, you know, i mean is tell you, i'm, we are in the government ministry here. have, i'm public administration could benefit enormously from a i don't think we have an incredible number of processes that could be system a ties and carried out. extrapolate might not. so the focus of my work here, it was a bit like asking how is it public sector could act as a means the consumer and generating work. and if you complete it like that above which will create demand for german and european e. i technology, cars in menaces. i know, i don't, i mean, i mean if i don't is any i company that target, so public sector and we are the public sector. so we only have to see that we generate opportunities for these technologies to be tested and be it through customer experience funding decisions or even permits the,
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the dallas i sent it so far and shoot out of office independence comes from us. company, hewlett packard enterprise to do is take out the enterprise. the sign an inclusive today of hewlett packard enterprise is one of the biggest players. when it comes to setting up a computer infrastructure, the, they build data centers, they set up internal server rooms all us. so is it a lot of the high quality infrastructure in which the modern world runs comes from h b, e n jeweller security strategic partnership with h p, giving him access to hardware without tying him to the company exclusively fuel. so
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hope that would help him gain a foothold then the u. s. market. he finalized the deal in las vegas with h. p. c of antonio, nanny. beyond analysis. know it's a business. we're announcing a major joint project with h. b, e. today, they'll be a press release going outside multimedia sleek. i'm either like it'll be a big joint market venture to get a boost. that's the important thing. that's not that i'm going to go on a stage with them, but that we're now taking a joint step with a major partner and a vote and my nervous. yeah, maybe a little the problem that we've been working towards this for months. i'm sure it will go well. so i mean we, we,
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we're building all next. we have an independent taxi tax and we're not relying when any, and exxon dependencies we recently saw explain ability to new ways. so you can all totally see positive, a confirming source that's part of disagreeing story is the issue with me an example. yeah, exactly right. how familiar owns kind of speeds? something business. the analyst is so because while of the condos in the native americans move, vast, white is they're willing to take risk these apart. but of course, this partnership also has to benefit h b u to pump. and any partnership can come to an end at any time. eunice and jewelers wanted to avoid becoming dependent on the launch corporation as was open i at microsoft. that strategy brought with the major risk. if he's technology doesn't keep up with the competition, he'll be out of the right,
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so we'll have more money soon. yeah, thanks. i, i also what i, how i probably know yesterday helped a little bit with that. like, oh it's yeah, it certainly didn't, didn't. it didn't hurt to i've got so kind of feedback from the immediate feedback and after the show, thank from, from investors on my, on my a cell saying, i don't wanna, i wanna kind of put this money to. uh, yeah. um, so i think i think if we can get your help and if you've got, if we could to your help to really say, okay, these are the application you have cases and hey, we can get that list you know from, from you. and then we can turn around and look at. okay, one, how do we package it to how do we, you know, can we use it internally? yes. i think that would be great. you know, not obviously 3, how do we know, how do we make sure we line up the services offer? thanks again for the partnership grades. thanks a lot. i think what always attracted us to the relationship was our office mission
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was to enable enterprise application use cases for for our allowance and multi modal models. and most of the customers in the valley are most of the companies in silicon valley were much more consumer oriented. so this concept of a single tenant lamp that can be trained with your data for your application really fits our core customer base. for over a friend goodness andrew, this new, the americans wanted to see concrete results he had to deliver and fast the show. you have the smile for you. are you happy with the traits here so far? i missed the spins and so please mention the comments all by one calling the
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dispatch and start it must be most interesting. that's an input ascentis fitness that age busy, physician movies adviser on the somebody cut sealed such an inch on top of the b. i race is also a competition for attention. it's about catchy me. i have invest, it's sitting on panels. be noticed being quoted, the, the majority heard from the few most lines on this topic today from there were still a few more to come on. so if i give you this will be also going to want to extend to highlight itself and drive innovation. you know what's on it. and so this, once nation technology is now the subject of massive hot, you're in a central, this is suddenly in the spot lot. he's a guy is being tested,
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isn't evaluated. norful boys favorably use magazine decides accused of, of, of allowing it say hi to be provoked into making racist and chauvinistic statements . and truly pointed out, just basic technology has deliberately not even restricted low hanging fruit fish on this. i shouldn't, that's just low hanging fruit or journalists. i took a screenshot is probably the model use the bad word instructs every time i find 2 in the model or 2 in the instruction, i use the test that diminishes it in certain areas. this is for your fees card, it loses capabilities in exchange for me, making it more pleasant or safer. and those might be the exact capabilities that i need in an industrial context for automating processes. the
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you know, we want the embedding technology to become a well known brand, just like the iphone. that's the most important thing. don't think about whether it makes sense or not. the whole way, i don't know. so is that the value we want to become a company like opening i, the top provider in the embedding more embedded? i was talking to him about the upcoming plan because we have the lead to release of a new product, which is uh, kind of a competitor to a whole day. i was in a castle and uh, so we were just uh, kind of these costs. what are the best way to kind of push the people focused on this product, right? because there is also like to know where the web
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t with different culture bank was. and uh, sometimes it's very hard to what kind of off nice everybody to concentrate on one suit. this is also because a guy is developing so fast on the law of hives. so if you're there and people, you don't want to try this all for me to try that all. so i just the top to, but i said you on make sure that all they see here. i mean, you're a senior leaders are kind of on the same page. we have kind of the developer driven company. so most of our customers are user is actually developers a software engineers. so if he's hmo right now, there is a, there, there is a time and also he was there, right. and their engineering team is also our customers. so the biggest challenge a, s c is a combination and i, i just between 10. so the investor and i'll still be like a most of the investor, especially, wasn't uncomfortable, right? or wrong. investor has a very strict uh, evaluation about this company. so the companies are, we are competing ways such as, you know, how getting phase from, from us and the co here if i'm us. so those come yeah, not like
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a those guy. you know, previously work had to google, you know, our graduated from, i meant to use stanford. so that very smart people, most of the investors, well look at as, as not as a small company, but they will evaluate us with more knowledge based on the hype, based on the performance of the company. right. so that's, that means we, oh we, we have to show to sales. these are, is a hyper gross off the user. so when you to grow as a user base, a super fast, or we show that by salt lake to revenue me, summer of 2023. thomas wolf has managed to make time for family vacation in brittany france. is chief scientific officer. he's primarily responsible for research and development, talking face a job that allows him to take a break from time to time to kind of like, what are you up to today?
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anything special specific? no, we're practicing sealing with the trapeze carpet that can you do the has today onto those you so much? yes. today we'll do something else. more and meanwhile, thomas's business partner, clement alone, is in the spotlight. he's the ceo of hugging face. the public face of the company take industry heavy weights like google, amazon in video, and am d, have invested $235000000.00 into hugging face. the open development platform for i models has become a 1000000000 dollar business. the, the company gained even more prestige with mach sucker books. meza used talking
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face to publish its high and language model, lama to send some of the stuff to you to some about a it's a model that was recently published by facebook and methods. if it could simulate strategy p t o, an open source, competitive uh tree. the difference is that it's free. it's the only purpose you can just install it on your computer down to you don't have to access it through the chat gtm device or pay for it, and it's like a set of lego. everything is open to next. everything is freely accessible for me. okay, you can also buy it a pre built at the if someone built an open source model for you, i believe it's like that building like, oh, if you failed to get a beautiful spot, let's call mike from like a preventative and then it's yours that fit for you can open up the hood and look inside it, it leaves reserve level gal different, they will take the greatest advantage of open source. it's free, it's disability. it's also its greatest weakness. what is the model was developed further by criminals, terrorists, or other bad actors?
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and use to cause tom any security mechanisms built into a language model can easily be removed. the single worst case to i can say. so that's a big question. we're asking ourselves and how getting face on in the beginning. all right, was to make this technology is one to be excessive as possible. and then, you know, we thought that would help lots of developers, that there are 2 sides to the technology because there are some people who can access. it really shouldn't be able to access these on, but the most of the there was a guy i met last year who had an a i designed to develop medicines, molecules that are good for your health, just as an experiment to put in the minus sign and train that look from all he was were bad for your health, and within 4 hours that discovered a thousands of chemical weapons, including the x,
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the most powerful nerve gas that we have here in the us. i have developed, you know, so you of course you shouldn't open source things like that. it's just crazy. i'm a scientist. i love open source, right. and it's, and i believe if you think about the pace of progress, how do you make sure that there is like the most progress open source is your friend? having said that, i just cannot completely ignore all the dangers. and of course, the argument, the only argument i have seen so far from supporters of open sourcing everything is saying, well, we will figure it out. so if i seem to us this one could say on multiple, it's easy to comment from the sideline, was assisting people in that it's dangerous. the, on the, it's more difficult to actively get involved to try to create something positive on something good. wouldn't necessarily be successful, so they'll be mistakes and then pressure time for this whole. so i'm going to try it's risk. you know, the little full of the puff we think is right on the deluxe one to the sequence. the
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mit is one of the most renowned tech universities in the world. it has close tots to industry research carried out to you has the potential to change the world. needless to say, am i t? is it the full front of onto official intelligence? in addition to his work with the future of life institution max, take mark is a professor here. the topic of i secuity is part of his day to day. so we want to wrap up the effort piece of which we do things. and it's also varies by whenever i go to silicon valley and meet with various companies that how quickly they do things off. and compared to what we do in university is that's totally fine . this does happen that we have a whole we're lucky to have
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a whole bunch 7 of talented people here. so we, we can, we can wrap up take mock and his fellow campaign is want to keep a close eye on the tech stash ups from silicon valley and cover risks. and you saw and to pick methodology to show people just town full time. we have left to counteract the pool of the tech industry. so you've been working very hard and finishing your paper and the very, very long conversation. now yesterday i thought i thought the very last part of it of what we talked about might be kind of fun for the whole group. yeah. i, i completely agree. do you want to draw that table? uh, yeah. where's the internet be ready for the quotes for it? so like we basically, as you know, the model, the conflict between like the movement to replace human livelihoods and maybe replace humans period. uh, versus like the movement to resist this and to preserve the status quote. so this
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doesn't, this come, it's not just something peter pulled out of a half. it just actually comes from the math. so if you're now he's like, oh, we have a guy that can do everything human can do, but better. uh my life will still be good. so we called at night. okay. uh so, so if a lot of people believe this, then they will not invest personal sacrifices and personal costs to greater unite and be that for the movement to be in a better position to resist as a team. there's um, companies, an open source developers that are working day and night with the goal of, you know, taking people's income streams by creating and models that are better than them at the, their job and their capabilities. so once you lose your income streams and you're leverage like it's too late, so your options are more limited societies plus he thought that the biggest thing, john, it's all about is the, we'll look back in 20 years and realize that we've all to might to different thing that's good because it was so easy to find because it worked and the i all i behaved correctly and it 99 percent of the cases i present in southern maine,
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we no longer have control over something that's crucial for society done for this specific the the process has already begun until now it's been the intellectual and created the abilities if she and instead of set us apart from other creatures and machines. but what if those qualities and now being taken away the, my name is dr. e. non goal number kasanya o a k, a sam s, i'm a rapper, i'm a producer, and i'm an assistant professor at brown university and music department. initially, i wasn't sort of tapped into all of the discussions that were happening around. and i, of course, peripherally, i was sort of listening watching reading, but i,
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i really started to tap into these conversations when i noticed what was happening at the intersection of hip hop and, and that's when i realize, well, this thing is moving really quickly. i mean, last year we were talking about a sort of a i generated wrapper, and this year we're talking about wrappers like drake and part of this, like the weekend having their voices actually sort of cloned using ai technologies . and so the, the speed at which this has become sort of an immediate challenge for working artist is very alarming. ultimately is the logic of capitalism. and as a human creator, what you can do is try not to be left behind. as a chinese, we always view that light technology. if you use it in this model way it can like push you i've left you yourself to become a smarter equator. queen, queen her machine and a,
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i could do the job faster, a cheaper and they don't have strike and you know, they, they'll reduced and the light re ridiculous. the mall phone declines all from the bosses. and i can see the chinese companies already like using it to replace human neighbors. so i think this is very critical moment right now for the creators around the world. so this is something happening and it's gonna be big in the next 3 to 5 years. so for folks like myself who, you know, i've, i've been able to build a life for myself, but i would definitely not say that i'm in the, the sort of like top tier to that music industry. there's a way that i think we're able to skirt under the radar and continue doing work as we're doing it because it's so much about experimentation. it's so much about
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trying out weird things. and a guy is so much about average a, if the people who are invested in play in that space of the anomaly and playing with the unexpected who will sort of continue to thrive the the impact of all to official intelligence. and now society is file reaching and complex. how can we regulate the technology that's developing so quickly and who's potential is almost impossible to gauge? the united states is struggling here in washington. the tech industries influence is huge. and company majorities, a front job back to the matter is that the us government move slowly. it is a democracy. that's that slowness is built into the system. the us government is
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not supposed to be efficient and not supposed to be able to tackle problems quickly . because a government that is too efficient, you know, can use that against its own citizens to i think that we've now reached a stage in our society that many philosophers and, and writers in the 20th century war and about which is the inability to governor technology due to the increasing pace of change well i, i certainly would not that against democracies, but it will be a really tough adjustment period. the 1st major piece of legislation and regulating artificial intelligence on a far reaching scale came from the e u. d i act. i definitely kind of really admired european union for being essentially the, during the space they took on this kind of ablation very seriously before anyone else reflect seriously or
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eunice intruders because come to brussels together with other stuff shop founders. he wants to let politicians know that strong regulation could put smaller. you repeat employers at a disadvantage compared to the competition in the us in china, looking 5. so the seems usually meetings like this are always a bit difficult because you say your piece and you never really know what reaction you're going to get a few new people with list of you. and of course it clear that cooperation within your up and with your up it is important, but it's always hard to say how much we can achieve here in now the.
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ready job documents, shedra, that's kind of you, i have a reading, i could just talk and i was repaired, something like this. it's your sessions and you can decide where you want to sit. no. ready so good afternoon to all of you. i least welcome to today. it'll be in the bottom of this meeting. an important meeting at the right time is something that will happen. and we always see like basically
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a few steps down the road. is that what's like the cloud like the into the hypoth scalars have done with, with cloud computing, that will be an infrastructure for genuine intelligence. that all the value creation, all the apps, all the new innovations in the world will build upon. and for, for us there will be no 2nd chance. if we cannot move task out then we, we won't be able to try again in 12 months. thanks a lot. the andrew, this is repeated his message over and over again, withdrawn international stages to jim and politicians all here at the european parliament over the course of a year. networking and lobbying has become 2nd nature to him. ringback as we have
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made a call, you have a as an investment. so i started my career as an investment banker in management consultant wearing a suit and 38 degree weather with no air conditioning. the . ringback the distribution i don't think i'd make a good politician. i realize that in my days at apple. v, close this deal for expressions kind of what's the probability of success. one is, is it worth investing this time? is it worth fighting this battle? i think so. i think it's a battle with fighting, but i also have moments when i think that doing something else would be pretty nice of some ongoing concern. ringback ringback ringback ringback
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shortly after his meeting with the european panama pos to act the federal, even 5 years down. the line as it is just a government instruction that will give you the ability to deal with the rapid devolution of a i n 3. the most benefits from it. and we have work 1st and foremost we sure all citizens rights and freedoms. i'm just respected. it's protected and expensive. we don't want to match the values. we don't want social scoring. we don't want predictive policing. and there can you system the amenities that i was? no, i can't remember we have been following are presenting very new group. let me be able to come through. can parliament, i'm a judge. my profession was also a member of government in romania, minnesota, visualization, east of interior. prior to coming to parliament. the hey,
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i will play very much into the pol balance. why? because it drives our economies, but not only becomes also and you believe affect both in terms of how well phase going to look like. and then also how this technology will play into many of the processes that will keep one part of the world or the other competitive. and therefore, also the way you write the standards and how the standards become global to accept the standards is very important in that all balanced. as i mentioned earlier. so we're going to see very soon also i think a competition will possible flash in terms of global standards. and that is why we have to take measures to protect our interests and also to make sure that again, our understanding of the role of technology is one that is shared by as many on the global. so just in re negotiations, germany, france, and it's lean lovely to get to saw from the rules of the i it to protect domestic
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players like olive alpha from heavy regulation. but in the end the european parliament prevailed. the mass isn't just your vehicle, you won't engage in terms of regulation. we're the economy of this leading the way for benign. there's a concern that that will take too much creativity. i sent the market to you t. austin mark meant as well. so in europe, we're better it regulation, then it preaching technology on the market. unfortunately not. the truth is it's ultimately going to be good for the tech industry as well to be regulated level playing field. even seat belts and cars were viciously opposed by the auto industry at 1st. but not then when we got the law, say all cars have to have seat belts. they started to sell much more cars. mm
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. we had sho has travel sessions. and in order to keep his team on the same page, the ceo has to visit the various company offices, regulate the say that the, those red letters all the, all the beauty is that, is that basically our office about so well now the big square just the one small room, the size of the big building he wants to take his company gina, to the next level that will require all his employees to pull to get as much as possible on this is i'll just put this down
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and families are in it and brought some levels and so that they can try them. they're delicious now. so the value of the terrified good. good. good old. so i told them you have to each know as i make a happy face to the cover of the flower head, germany, people's great healing each other like uh, telling jokes. uh, you know, pounds of random stuff us football match yesterday or this kind of thing here. is small introvert. i say in the office this morning traverse, it's just the i can see for a working cultures. both of them are pretty productive. under my we are in the start out. everything was very quickly if someone becomes
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a little bit stressed when they come some little bit numbers because, you know, we couldn't use that as long pages against the other competitors against the market as it's not about. so what we need is about how people perceive us right on, on what we need in the meanwhile, in germany, is it, or is also a team, a working on releasing a new large mentioned models. and yesterday is a leaders told me that this model can be ready on monday, but it has been postponed for many, many times. so i have to see like a colleagues those in the evening and show has another meeting with a potential investor on the way he calls his technical director. to ask was the launch of the new language model is going as planned. i have on the right, but you know the number then it's a one, not publisher bure embedding platform has to get into the global best model. there
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are no police company won't succeed unless everyone does their best to know my heart and all the part in similar, thomas? is there any, is there guides or if you don't get into the top 10, it will be much more difficult to say you use a platform that's not in the top 10 to buy a new one year old was it published? it all you just sent? you the total, you need to think more about these practical things are made on that. one is the linked in post done the twitter post. that is all there needs to be a strategy here. so there are about so uh huh. okay, well, that's fine by me. a while until, you know, got into the top 10 model leaderboard. armada is getting to the top to but you know, the team just told me the german team just told me they probably cannot get into that help to. that's why i got a little bit like a little impose on my, on my conversation. because that sir,
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this is something that we promised to ourself. you know, is this word is very, very occasion based word. and if you can knock guys into the top 10, it's just like a, even if you'll get into like november 11th, right? nobody cares surprised. so this is why, you know, i'm telling the team that it's not about engineering, at least you also have this thing about the whole company, like the marketing sales. that all depends on the number 10, the top 10 models of this lead up on the
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notice. hi, grace. hi. grace lou works for chinese investment bank. the 2 1st met a couple of years ago during the star shop phase of hon. charles company. a cell phone thing and you're just starting to bring a i generated content to people variety, you don't want huh. on how to do those multi modal a i do not have who are working on 2 things right now. one is properties, technology and the other is embedding technology dining, which is me to say, thursday this year will be quite a challenge for you and i, for the whole of it's only gonna run, you know, we've made a new software with prompt, perfect, on updating the developers part we've already got 200000 registered users will say, oh boy you are so long. oh, that means there's a lot of demand and full amount. i,
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i don't think i kind of jumped to my conclusion yet. but kind of mentioned is something very interesting to me about his new throughout to new products, actually the most in cause and see if the c o. okay, myself. right? and by that he is a good entry premier, not only assigned seats, the i'll was developer meetings like this one, put opportunities on the table for her and shows company both in china and in the west. and there's good news about who's important project when you develop a tool performs just as well as the equivalent technology from open i the, by the end of 2023, eunice. andrew says plenty to celebrate. he's completed a major around the financing. the company prevailed and convinced enough investors
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to raise hoffer, begin toilets. that's money. and truly this is going to meet because competitor open i is over the triggering a new phase in the race for a dominance. the we did a lot of things that smaller people told me 4 years ago they would be impossible. built deep tech, i already out of germany. impossible fun this with mostly european capital impossible. build our own data center. impossible. continued category, defining research, impossible. and now we're entering into a new era and i'm super happy to have you all with us. and thanks for being here and help us make this the best part either titled because of us
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man. and for thomas wolf, quiet holidays may soon be seen if the post talking face is now valued at $4500000000.00. thanks to successful style shops and the i act, the e u at least has a seat at the table alongside the us in china. for now, fish, humanity at large. the question remains, what kind of world are we building right now for ourselves? and for our children, i was holding a little baby leo, you know, he just turned 9 months old and looking to into his eyes and fixing video right now, his language abilities are much worse than chuck g. p for and he's never going to catch up. but i ever have 2 kids that are in middle school and i'm thinking that
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cable, that's what i should teach them about. so they kind of prepared for the a in a few future. how do we teach our kids to kind of build something like unique and individual? the machine is all something. it's all the bar this all assist us. so we're working together. so i think that's that's how i feel the and then they'll say value of shocking. yeah, that they'll say, failures complicated, even in these pivotal moments in these complex times, people always find a way the creative and resourceful on this uh, my son is already learning to colored. yeah, he's really interested in. i was, he wants to understand things and create things using i. c o children will probably create to, well, that's completely different from us. but i'm not worried. at the end of the day. i'm an optimist suite to process the,
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