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i'm on a journey to find out about the routes, so the 19 are to put you on the site again to see the rhonda. my name is some way to ship. i'm assuming, reshaping history. our documentary stops april 6th on dw, the best as date of the news i've got coming up on the program is democracy in senegal, spending the test of time for my rest and the position vegas to postpone in presidential elections. and it goes, democracy has inputs to the test, but i think is about to turn around also on a program, access to clean war tides becoming more difficult on the continents, due to climate change and population growth. we look at how some countries are fighting back gonna we meet one community that celebrating at the safe drinking water is brought close out to home. and from the sea wage to the
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tops i projected in the media ice 10 in what's flushed down the toilet is a clean water. we'll hear how it's done and what people think about drinking their own waste. the i am eddie micah junior and you are welcome to the program or will i co styles? events in senegal has been tested in the countries commitments to democratic principles and practices fast. the elections were cancelled by precedents. microsoft leading to protest on political unrest. this tarnished the west african nations reputation for being one of the top stable democracies in africa. the region as experience 7, military takeovers and the last 3 years. now eventually, although we still need presidential elections, we're allowed to go ahead to buy the country's highest quotes. still go positions,
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i guess, since in a gulf. yeah, that demographic has been severely damaged but have the last few months reading week into the democratic system or hasn't made it stronger. is that even still on opposite sides for them across the on the continent will shortly get the thoughts of an experts but fast best they've got the house and they go got to this point it's seen a typo, charged presidential election campaign of 2 weeks of confusion most of which is want only one thing, and that's to move forward. the country needs change. we are going to change this country on pulling di by choosing the best candidate as you might as on love with it. but the good thing towards because we want change in our country, it's hot in synagogue. there are a lot of texas and i buy the conflict and was the want change. and when people and
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someone who would take synagogue, hardwood of them. but i know that means moving on from outgoing president mackey south. he was elected 12 years ago on the promise of widespread reforms including reducing the power of his own office. which unrest has grown along with government disapproval. sent a goal and normally stable democracy. suddenly finding itself in turmoil, then came self decision to delay the election, racing fears he tried to hold on to power and legally, the opposition cooling it, to constitutional cool. the result, more protests, many of the demonstrate is the same young people who broke solved to power. now, to solutions and angry, dozens were killed and hundreds more rested, including high profile of position. lead is they, along with hundreds of prisoners, were released off to send a goal, is constitutional quotes intervened and put the elections back on track with the
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about a, with the departure of mackie cell and the release of the detainees. you know, this has been helping to reduce tensions to new. so i'm going to be, and that means that we can move towards a peaceful election. i've been made. i be you next, your busy. many here hoping center goals headlines will soon spell out political change. while living up to the countries image as a beacon of stability into hit west africa. from that guy a mile joined by a political analyst, chris or going would a hello and welcome to the program. chris. first, tell us, what are the key factors that help set a goal, stay on the pop of democratic as well. first of all of the people, i think this is a great deal of credit for the collective response to what was
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essentially a civilian. who were you, had the president decided unilaterally that the election wasn't going to take place because of the conditions that you've given audrey, and is the reasons. but he was essentially done without any consultation. and he need not to be decided that the election would be postponed. and the people in cynical men, women, and children, simply thought that's unacceptable that it'd be deaf ways heard of impressing, as well as a digital species, as well as we have to ask for i, you know, other countries and that sort of, uh, created the feedback into the international community who pressure at the, the president on political institutions incentive go to respond to the so i wouldn't give the credits 1st and foremost to send it to these people before any or
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the, some part of the site. it's a, it's, it's really interesting that you, you focus on the people and as you say, due to the price out from the people, the institutions insights and a go daddy also worked to get, get to the point that we are now. now we've seen in the recent years, countries like looking at fossil molly, these a, they've all the send that from democracy to military who, who the people way also involved in many cases, really sharing on the military when to us the, you know, move the country from democracy to military rules. so why is this such a growing a position to democracy you think of so i would uh push back against that characterization of the uh well push back against democracy or rejection of democracy. us. first of all, there's a great deal of, uh, pulling that actually points out that the africans,
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including wished for guns do support democracy when defended. and of course, i find democracy if you choose to be finally that's being who govern by frequent elections and things like that. they do support that however, via also cubby's, that the fact that civilian elected civilian need is in recent decades and use in kids have failed to delete the dividends of democracy in terms of prosperity securities into social cohesion. and you know, many of these he does have retailer chose, i've committed terrible human rights abuses having to get into some corruption. i know dr. holmes or i'll governance. so when you combine all of the, the domestic situation i've just described, plus the fact that many of these b does are backed by the western powers that friends on the united states. many people see, oh, there's simply no compulsion for them to defend democracy. isaac's practice, and the thing about that is that the military menu of these countries is
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a very respect that is to show each spite of each past and set the more visible. what? so when people feel, you know, the started squeezing working, they were listening to an alternative from using that, that's no, you need to west africans. so what are we saying here? then if people see them across the us, it is, is generally not 7 the needs or the interest of my job off in these most cases, young people, what, what shall be done then? that's why i think the what should be doing to be is generally not a question that easily be resolved. i think part of the problem is that many of these countries, um, i essentially babysit democratic tab seamlessly states where they got the independence. many of them spend 20 a few years on the, you know, civilian route before they would take you by the middle of the ink cartridge like modeling the jake book, you know, 5. so the minutes, very frankly,
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it has to be about unless it's public life, the military has always government baby when the pod so cause it's been with us. they've been retired generals or something like that. so there's a big fund they, most of the amount of wisdom be young, just having it and make sure that is electronic electronic and only most weak democracy. and i think that's, that's the question that has not really been upset, but the certainly since the end of the quote when many of these countries had to transition to democracy, they has come to the south shore that simply hold in elections. is the bar only talk democracy on time, but again, that's proven to be false. so simply really simply doing um, not sofa looking for oil, i know the natural resources and selling them on the international market. that's all that constitutes an economics. so much more foundational questions about how to run the societies that i think needs to be as i people at elections. i simply means most, you know, trying to build a society,
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but that it's not. the only means that many people see what like electronics, have taken so much will be pre dominus, much more structure of additional issues in the society. so in my view, that needs to be a much broader question about what constitutes a society simply more beyond st. people within that it shows every 4 or 5 years. um what, what do you see in the near future? how optimistic should we be? that african countries will stay on the path of democracy and even improve it and make it better. i personally am fairly um, optimistic or the cautious the soap because like, as i said, you know, in, earlier in the segment when you across the board, you know, when you don't narrow, you know, in a couple of countries when you look across the board, civilian democratic government, i still didn't know, you know, now it's was when he gets into a specific context. yeah. so i'm figuring to use that, you know, get some different situations, you know, the levels of democratic participation,
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a competitive elections, institutional be core. but all of these things very board elected civilian governments at the nome. so at least that's some place to start to meet the much more important question as to what end do you practice democracy? how will democratic re deliver, you know, the benefits office to feel democratic governance because i think one thing you see, so to meet with a lot of the surveys and findings across the continents, people to support democracy. but they said as a means to why they don't see it and it shows as an end to them. so that's what i've seen in places like, by the way, people single because the democracy these projects hasn't worked. let's try something is that that's why you see this is back in the share my, the up, you know, for us with the home does, i'll call to do the whole size with for that. and it shows the candidates, the back would likely went. so i think they're going in science basically speaking about the weight on means of democrats. seems to be
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a democratic group is much more important than the mid 5 to popular. civilian is 2 shifts. right. thank you very much for your time political analyst, chris. but when, what day day i us. thank you. now let's focus on one of our most precious resources. what about the lack of it in places across the continent? how do we present it? and can we make sure there was enough of it for future generations that you an estimate stuff at least to in every 3 people in sub saharan africa do not consistently have access to safe drinking water? yes, you had the right. that's 2 in 3 in line with that. 3 and 4 are without access to safely managed sanitation. among the facts, nations have lost about 5 percent of your gross domestic products, gdp in a recent yes. but you and says that fixing the problem will be a,
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where the investment costing only one to 4 percent of g d p. from all of this, let's bring it in professor craig, sorry. then he's the right to all the same time and what our research and development at the vets university in south africa, i have a welcome to the program say, why is it so difficult to ensure that everybody has access to enough potable water across the continent as well it's, it's a fairly complex question and it has to be considered in the context of what's happening in africa at the moment. when we think about the current war to like, particular asian systems that we see across much of the developed world. these are large, expensive systems that are typically piped into people's homes. that cost a lot. they need a lot of energy to run. and, you know, the western world in particular has been doing this for quite a long time. part of the difficulty in africa has veronica having this huge population explosion at the moment. i'm in fact, if you look at the projections,
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there's something might come out of a to better than the africans that are about to arrive over the next 2 years or so . and most of them are not going to be living in formal housing, begin to be living and informal, safe comments. so that's, that's part of the answer to your question, but it's a really complex question. hm. so we're planning talking about a challenge of increasing population contribution to why it's, it's quite difficult to access potable water. so then let's, let's, let's look at how to do with this, what needs to be done to address the, what's the problem in lights of this challenge. so there's a number of things that we have to look at. so one of them is it certainly any way where we have systems that are all working where we have pipe systems of water to people. we've got to focus on maintaining the systems wherever we have systems we, we have sewage treatment. we've got to keep like doing that and not that those fonts fail because obviously sewage and i rivers makes my taught to access key
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more to at the same time we've got to consider the sort of new and maybe even radical ways of, of providing new sources of what to you know, one of the areas that i think we need to be seriously considering is searching or economy thinking way we go to full of water reclamation. and another challenge with africa is that we have very high evaporation. so, you know, almost all the rain fall across the continent will ultimately evaporate if you haven't looked at the rates of evaporation and the, the rates of rain full. and that's also in the context of that, it's a really big continent and every location is eaten. so he can meet the best bug solution and this is complex and it's particularly complex when you've got lots of people moving around and being bone and not being provide at home slipping necessarily. right. that kind of thing. what else that credit will get back to you after looking at how it country like gonna is trying to address?
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it's what's up problems that you and estimates that more than 70 percent of guardian households at risk of drinking water that is contaminated with the code mater and some parts of the country. people have to travel at least 30 minutes to reach an improved source of drinking water. or might lead maxwell soup reports that in northwest and gonna, the government is setting up the ball hose to bring war tact close out to people. it's a celebration for clean water. this community has just gotten a new bull hole. it will be life changing. the women have never had such pure water. almost at the doorstep. they long daily walk to the stream is over 50. you see it off and you can step on a snake while going to fetch water from the stream and you might end up being bitten submit. well, but it has been a big problem in this community office for medical for now that we have this for
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whole by our homes. that old deal is over in new, so i'm not like it, but enough many get sick when drinking water from sources like streams and dams. because animals also drink from the sources, the water can become polluted and lead to life threatening illnesses that are often difficult to treat as i say to us than because almost all districts data for the increase in these numbers and the number of a this that for it's casey, so in the number of data cases and a lot of hospitals so, so do get time for the free shifts where they have to do st. mary's to cut part of the test and that is for, for the test we thought we were connected for children and teenagers of school age searching would so often also means less education. comforts has had to miss many
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classes, especially during the dry season when reservoirs have shrunk. is about sort of the 40. when you come here in the morning, it is usually crowded with people waiting to fetch water. as it goes, as the school girls have done, if it is your turn to fetch, you will miss class that day. the regional governments has taken sometimes active steps to address the issue and has been drilling bull holden, ne, gonna, what is development? what is life? so where around to the regions of did not realize that the come on probably face by almost all region and this one was what so we decided of let's begin with something. so we started with the $120.00 balls. has the water flows. jennifer rejoices,
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she is convinced she and her baby to come now have a better future the amount of $200.00, not that i will no longer be worried about water. when i go to my farm and stuff with a cultural fate, but done by now colonial, clearly and fox, although getting boats in genesis community has gotten easier. not everyone in the region was being so lucky. the government will have to drill a lot mobile holes before there was enough clean water. so everybody let's bring back a guest that credit started then director of the same type of what type of research and development at the vets university is that i forgot. thanks for staying with us, greg. got us government will have to drill a lot small ball holes to address it's boards that challenges. but is that a sustainable solution anywhere? it's part of a sustainable solution that it ground water is a renewable resource. if you're in a country like on of which is quite recent in the soft that might very well work to
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what's the most that might be problems with you, you're becoming more into the sort of the whole area. if, if there isn't that enough, ran the bull holes can dry and the full health of a use, they have a potential to dry out. there is also a risk with bull holes just because you're getting water off the ground doesn't mean it's not contaminated with either of fecal matter or other forms of chemical contamination. in fact, the ground can even have other materials which might be quite toxic for you. so again, it's all about managing the risks associated with these different sources in different locations, but certainly that's part of the solution professor, correct sir. then direct office, i'm tired of what i research and development other vets university. thank you very much. there are even more innovative and sustainable ways to address what that's outages. but since you have been to look in, the media has been around in the facility that might work as
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a role model solution for what task asked regions. but it involves drinking the water. you flash down your toilet. what if i told you that the water that had been used for this? all of these could be used for this. how? through the direct potable reuse system, which works like this. the process begins by collecting your debt to water from domestic in industrial sources. the water then undergoes a rigorous multi stage treatment process that involves advance boots, ration, and disinfection, impurities, pathogens and contaminants all remove to ensure the water meets the safe drinking standards. what's the, what is purified it's integrated into the team water supply system. so africa, this could be a game changer. a closed loop system would reduce the need for fresh water sources, which is crucial for meeting growing population demands and come back in climate change. africa news is about 340 median use annually to pull access to clean water
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and sanitation services. 5 percent of the continents g, d p. the system could be a big money saver, which is potential to mitigate losses, improve health and safe time. dpr represents a sustainable approach to water management. pretty impressive, isn't it? let me be as compet tobin talk is between 2 major does. it's the kind of harvey and the nominate making what are the steps commodity. so the direct potable reuse, the systems is the welcome contribution to solving the problem of what that scarcity of use, diane hawkeye, when to the capital, to look at how the production of the used water has become the lifeline for the residents. that communal taps like these are a lifeline in informal settlements like this one invented uh,
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total amount of the water that comes out is cheap. and for those on the receiving end, the process seemed simple. in truth, it's the product of a high take process, which many know little about. as soon as i was to do this, i have been living here for the last 20 years, but i don't know where the water comes from. it changes color, sometimes it is brownish, but i don't know if the water is recycled or not having that much of what she drinks comes from the 40 on hub water reclamation. plant process is domestic sewage to take the water out and make it to do this. the plant seems treated waste water 2 full ration and chemical treatment processes. regular teeth are conducted in the bar g to ensure the water, ne, global stand and the to take
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samples on a daily basis from different areas in one book and test the water for compliance. they will immediately alert us when this one or 2 samples out of space, and then we will react and see what, how serious these and take action. the project was the 1st of its kind in the world. and 1st started decades ago. in the sixty's when took resources, what the resources was about to to around dry and to the municipality of the time decided there's only one uh, solution to that. and that is to reclaim your domestic suicide. treat it to a portable senate entity uses the car and plant has been in operation since 2002 and supplies between 15 and 25 percent of the tons
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overall water. it has also served as a model for other countries of attempt to apply and to learn more about the process . we're very proud of what we're doing here. just clean enough, and that's how we wrap it up from all of our stories. go to dw, comes by as africa, or visit us on social media platforms will leave you with pictures from the 13th african games in gonna, as that leads competes, also pretty much i am at you, mike, a junior. see you next time, bye for now the
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