mapped out shows the geopolitical reality beyond the board. what makes things to the way they are mapped out, navigating a changing world. now on youtube, the business data, the news that for to coming up on the program, 800000 people moved it in just a 100 days, 3 decades off to the one to in genocide. can they ever be completed reconciliation? it was mass killing audit from the top, meticulously planned and executed without this to things. and margaret horses mess the kid with machetes by vigilantes. that road blocks with has been even killing their wives. many slip to churches hoping to find sanction. but there was none. we made sense how to manage to escape the killing in

a church that became a mess burial ground. and we talked to a london full makers who discovered the colonial roots of the genocide called germany. and belgium sees and used one to at the start of the 20th century, sewing the seas of division, a deliberate policy of divide and conquer the hello cassim adult. welcome to this special edition of the program. we're looking back at the 1994 genocide in one to the east african nation is mocking 30 years since the start of a 100 day mess because in which 800000 people was slower, said the killings were mostly carried out by extremists, from the countries majority is to make hutus against to the influential minority

towards the population, but also moderate horses. here's a reminder of how this brutal civil conflict shocked the world. and just to warn you, much of what you're about to see is distressing. april 1994 and a plane carrying lawanda as president. i just bermonte and counts of politics shut down of okay, calling juvenile. happy you. ramona, and superior and a how to mirror a kilt along with everyone on boards. basement of ethnic hutus. the next day, the genocide begins either 100 days, gangs of many who, 2 extremes slots, a hundreds of thousands, mostly ethnic tutsis, orchestrated by the rewan denobia militia. neighbors turning on neighbors. the clubs submission these thousands heads of churches. many after being offered to show and says that they would be safe, but nowhere is safe. the judge is

a light to recognize the science of numerous mass killings. the extreme threats of life pushes masses of people to one does board is sexual violence is also used as a weapon with as many as 250000 women raped during the genocide behind the buns. the violence, is it possible for power between one, this ruling hutus and the towards the dominated lawanda patch. you take front rebel great. the mass mode, you eventually coming to an end. we now p f flight is reach the cap to pick out a little while in july 19. 94 may have to do that by pull to gummy. the wind is coming presidents in today's the fall i p f takes control of the country arresting that was accused of being involved in the genocide. over the years since,

tens of thousands of, of london's have been convicted. but 100 small suspects are still at large. ringback the numbers of the data are impossible to comprehend. take the example of the yeah, my to genocide memorial sites. a single church with $5000.00 people limited over the course of 3 days, the w's. mario miller reports from the side of one of the worst mess because of the genocide it's not often that sometimes finds the strings to come here to a former church. now a memorial to the rhonda genocide, she says this is the place where she refused to die. eclipse funded assembly is coming back to this place 30 years later. i think that is still a big wound, but it helps me to remember many of the people who died here. we're going to

actually use their belongings are still here, frozen in time. and each piece tells the tale. a person's elbows tightly tied behind their back before being executed, toddlers killed with the parents. the killings that started a few days earlier, many to 2 families, including some talent, had children suited refuge here, thinking they'd be safe. good and not the 1st stay through grenades into the church and many people lost their legs. i was so much screaming who those who tried to leave the church were hacked with machetes, though a place of century turned into a burial ground. the remains of more than 45000 people rest at the memorial side. someone display a reminder of the massacre. shantelle managed to escape, a judge was injured. at a corner in that we fled to

a nearby school when i felt something hit me in the mouth and other parts of my body where i was holding my kids. i think it was a grenade. then i saw that one of my babies had been killed and that 8 or she had a nearby bushes. but they ended at home with the who to munitions. committing the genocide found her attacked her with a machete to a rock into her head. a friend lying next to her hiding under banana leaves was done to life safety. when he came back, often they rammed a spear and to me, mocking us saying, you cockroach has don't die easily. i stayed in there for some time. my wounds were rod and comforting had maggots falling out of them. days later has been found her and brought her to safety, the surgical moment of se another community is trying to reconcile with a past and move, removing it from the perpetrators and the families of the victims. left side by

side mean noises, 2 brothers and a cousin were killed during the genocide. these quin knobby but they were brutally killed hacked here and here in the head in the throat. all parts of the body shred it is the bible and my dead brothers. i loved the hands that would have supported me down. the man who killed them supreme at the bottle was tried and one of rhonda supposed genocide tribunal and spent 12 years in prison on his release as to useful forgiveness and she accepted. now the regularly participating group activities together with other former perpetrators and victims. it's all part of a government program to create unity among brandons and re establish trust following the genocide that split communities would. would that work for sion tied to could see, forgive her attackers and killers for baby?

good question. we have a good country and that has brought us together and we loved each other. but it does not rule out the possibility that there could still be remnants of genocide ideology. in some people's hearts you can't see and people's heart, this isn't all day long for her son was killed during the genocide would now be a grown like other kids. and trash i've sent had hopes that generation would be able to put the genocide and the divisions of the past behind them. or at some say the desire to overcome division has come at a cost. polk odami has played a leading role in run to since 1994, becoming president in 2000. and there are no signs. he intends to go a position data of x, y and go be wary. is one of click on this fits this chris x database, maureen, let us sit down with her and gully and us. how fall has one become since the genocide with president to come me. he,

i say or so he was the deadline to pay this on to the right to mention that it is, it was, he was the mind. that's one that needed to of the genocide by to today after 50 years. i think that's we need the new fresh bromwoods in order than the session. so, but afraid nothing of it but to you there's some activities in to do so and a new beer didn't give me to daddy. you kind of see that to me. they was so much of a man to meet you getting bought into hot. we need to, to be to also they have to for london. so that's, that's why i say it's a few years. because what we actually have an adverb that didn't get a close vision is the sources we need to have along the way to go. so what is needed in order to achieve that reconciliation? what's needed is to, to cannot as autumn one eyes order is story. i said one does as one conditions, because on to 2 days or, or it's not that it is 30 for our country, divides us onto today before the genocide that gets it to cease. and during the

genocide in the after the genocide that are so climate guessing money to come into the it's as simple as those of victims until today's nobody to talk about it. but they have a lot of tapes and they know that these they need to whom to express the fine affinity public credit. we've talked to that to we've had to the 6 and you've been a long time critic of president for cut on the end of government. he also challenge the official narrative as it just mentioned, of the genocide. what happened before and during the genocide. so could you, if plane of its size, what do you mean by that? what kind of atrocities or crimes against humanity has been committed when they total the kind of get some money. they talk about the number of citizens where dictated when day was due and in the for just come inside the land. when did they was in de homes? when did they homes or destroyed into a kid somewhere? so just and most of them committed to those crimes. and if i say to they say that

a pull rise policy middle on back. that is the choose that is it over the auditability editor for wanda. if we need to really to bid and nation to have is to spend a bit of development company have the suspended development. if we are not the north trust a month. as i said, one downs, because we need before to be one ignatius. why? where you bought from the next election? because i was going down by one to quotes. even if the, if you can, the court has cleared to my name, but did want a government refused to, to coordinate this, the decision of the one that i quotes and a they bundle mental prospects into an extra do you think that is out of fear? because you are dangerous with the government did or didn't get bye t o say the to the candidates because the company is so popular among the one that's and the i see if you, he's so popular. why do you order for that to being

a competition that we, for someone that has, i don't a lot on distant. why do to susie me to participate in the ethics and bought the solution. the answer is that they know if i'm going to in the competition for london, run down, submitted new, fresh a blog and they, they know that they can easily with extra. and this is why they bundled meant to us . but thank you so much. you have come one day and filmmakers, samuel issue with parents were killed in the genocide. he was 2 years old at the time and saved by his medic. he's recently co produced a documentary where he sold to understand what led to the mass murder. i'll be talking to simulation with off to this except off his phone, which is called reclaiming history. the colonial roots of the genocide in rwanda as the this is around a 1000. the hillsburg dies,

the country i was born in 30 years ago when i was 2 years old. the genocide was committed here, my parents and that because of my family, what killed i'm on a journey to find out about the roots of the 1994 genocide against the to see and rhonda. my name is some way to ship me there. i'm assuming the flow of my parents killed and you're the account by the militia. but i didn't know why. and as a kid, i just thought he was wor, which one is 13. 1450. that's. that's. we asked impressions to my family and reading books. and yeah, that's what, that's how our side understanding our kid with children because of their customers are too close to to see if we speak to some language show to some culture, some conference. how do we become more towards the identity before german individuals came to put a nice around at the end of the mattress and she would invited us to talk

to a sales or was it cleaners the to see twice already existed before community it is around one percent of london's called themselves twice the colonizers to defend them as picking these natives who lived here before the who to and to, to to squint a clint approve of do it to, to, to try some dispute dress. you have any type of service she is doing a dyslexic 1 o'clock because it isn't a sunday so, so high of the meaning of, for to, to, to, to are infrequently or rhonda. this is debated among historians to visit when they apply that to me or to to cisco s good. on project of a more so when did you have

a tablet exemption? nope. either one separate community basically. so you've got to use the shockey 15 real percentage frequency also around directly to the way. uh, so the max is open at 130 to 1215. so if you need to, you should is also going to swap the ebc isn't too good to to see. did it go to is going to press delta g of damage. the commission was introduced to run the at the end of next century by european researches. the colquitt, that's the to see where the so called negro hom bites. who had been griffith from the north end admitted to this, i pushed the indigenous, which was for hundreds of years the as i was researching for this firm, i came across the recent german run and started. we felt that no way around 900 human scholars kept in germany there,

west tongue from rhonda in 19 or 7 and 19 or 8. most of them are appropriate to by a natural produced named youngest. you kind of skipped for over a 100 years. nobody knew one than knew about the existence of these 2 months because the, those who minded administrative b is used for classifying a good one. that's just to prove that there is a committee in need one. in the cruise, the cruise is being the genocide, but the trip to the games fit to i'm running a lot about how my identity force destroyed, how these divisions came about. and of both recorded history is in the the drum. and so my next step now would be to go to the sea for myself. the

ability of the significance place for many reasons. first of all, the so called co conference in which africa was divided like a piece of cake and given to colonial powers, took place here in abilene, in 1884, in 1885. the rest your theories to divide. the humanity of teresa is worth very popular. also at the museum for a total director of the african ocean, the departments fixed on lucian, instructed the colonial researches to appropriate the mode. the 9000 human remains from germany could on his most east coast, but also for skeletons. whoever did that opened the graves, took out the scouts. normally when you just go with this racial studies, measuring the type polo g bas goes and the rest of the body. but it's not important because you put the detect races when he started and run that ran it, pointing the finger, i think someone's saying i'm going to 1st was introduce

a rush of curious on plastering picture. think that somehow in germany it can be held responsible in some type of form of the truth. i do want a 94 in the way. yes. because they brought this this division between 2 to 2. question is another one. is it the must that off to this division which determines brought to run the force of the must that 100 just later? she knows. i type in the next step of my journey is belgium. the 1916 dimensions. to quote a new console friend from the germans. jing world war one, product can seem to get a 1000 run of troops to the germans to fight the guess they've been just. but the builder is one that will have to control for under, on the demand it affiliate with nations, systematically dicks that a division of a to tooth central to go difficult for me to commit the gentleman who had to go to

run the list. so can you tell me to run that? you're sole sourcing though? was the initial to be fixed from clear powers? was actually, this is to magic dictation. to teach this is a georgia in 25 people. instruction will cut to district to begin the jobs from different and i am joined institute here by their funding. so make has some real issue with who we just saw in that film of the day. it's really good to be talking to. you're welcome to date of me is africa. sam? i was particularly struck in fact, surprised to the, during the documentary, that actually the what or who to in to see identity was rooted into thought i was clause. right. so this was not sort of an ethnic difference between these 2 peoples

. it was haves and have nots. but as you then take us through this documentary, we learned that the colonizers actually pushed the notion that said that there was a difference. yeah, absolutely, that's right, and it's, it's one of the biggest, i think, misconceptions i think in history where you with this profile creation of an identity that is not there before in which i read the course, of course is a new one. the inbound in some of the original countries. and i, yeah, you mentioned you all know the famous way to go to the, to the source of that. so when did you see the difference come from? yeah, yeah. um, so we, so you traveling across rwanda coming to your number of countries here as well. you missed a lot of people. you spoke to a lot of people. a lot of research went into this by the end of the project. what was the one thing you would have said stuck with you? so we'd have to tell because a lot today just in this, in this uh process. uh,

but i think one of the biggest thing that stuck with me is there is look know that's the was a creation of music using alonda and other cars. and there was any casual actually occurred on your intentions on your project to actually push differences from the creating differences, but also to politically push, getting differences and to make these people seem to have been different. and that was for me there. and they said to the biggest thing that it was looked at, these papers looked like just the actual project on the stage was that we have political, we are divided people. yes, we race track, striking to discover that. yeah, because we have people in the arguments about colonialism. you hear people making the points and you highlight this as well. that, oh, but colonialism wasn't all that bad. it brought civilization. there it's, it's really stupid the arguments because that clinician position was ordered by the stocks today with all that's introduced to actually dealing with the consequences of that. it's not even only the genocide in rwanda even today and 2024 seem dealing

with that's we come to borders identities, destruction of casual structures. duties of that. it's something that still has short consequences on the african continents to that. so i don't, i don't see any positive outcome from colonization or some of the visual was them before, you know, send your parents were both killed. you are 2 years old at that time. a lot of your family members were to, the city is on right. i'm just wondering what more you feel like you lost me, but also way you are at, in the sort of like the healing process would, would you say that today? city is on as a parent yourself, that when you're at peace with what happened that you've, we all you, in, in this whole like process of having to confront what happened. but also having to move on. it's, it's, it's a, it's a very interesting thing because people from

a generation where there was a young thing, the genocide is now and today that's one of those that was just, i'm to confront that history. i mean, there's a generation of people who lived, it's an over the time, hadn't had the time to really move on from me or dealing with it and for other things studying. now that's what adults that's, we're having to do all of our own that we serve to emotionally. now dealing with all of this. so i'll say, i don't know it and we try to move and of course be positive and the country is moving on. but on the personal and emotionally, what is something that is still uh it'd be a big thing to explore and to do with it on the, on a daily basis. so i think it's an ongoing gap, a journey with the, with the heating. yeah. yeah. well, thank you for taking us on that journey with you. i thought the film was a standard, a standard projects and we just learned so much about what happened and you'll kind of for you and how it is still a real present reality today. so thank you so much for coming in today. thank you very much. and that is it

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