the, the, this, the state of the news that for to coming up on the program 800000 people murdered in just a 100 days, 3 decades off to the one to in genocide. can they ever be completed reconciliation? it was mass killing audit from the top, meticulously planned and executed without this to cease and moderate horses mess the kid with machetes by vigilantes. that road blocks with has been even killing their wives. many flipped to churches hoping to find sanction. but there was none. we made sense how to manage to escape the killing in

a church that became a mass burial ground. and we talked to a london full makers who discovered the colonial roots of the genocide held germany and belgium sees and used one to at the start of the 20th century. sewing the seas of division and deliberate policy of divide and conquer the hello. i'm cassim adult. welcome to this special edition of the program. we're looking back at the 1994 genocide in one to the east african nation is mocking 30 years since the start of a 100 day mess because in which 800000 people was slower, said the killings were mostly carried out by extremists, from the countries majority, if an equal to it gave of the influential minority towards the population,

but also moderate horses. here's a reminder of how this brutal civil conflict shocked the world. and just to warn you, much of what you're about to see is distressing. april 1994 and a plane carrying lawanda as president. i just bermonte and counts of politics shut down, advocate calling juvenile. happy ramona, and sippy and a how to mirror a kilt along with everyone on boards basement of ethnic hutus. the next day, the genocide begins. i will 100 days, gangs of many who 2 extremes, slow to hundreds of thousands, mostly ethnic touch sees, orchestrated by the one denobia militia. neighbors turning on neighbors. clubs, submissions these thousands heads of churches, many of them being offered to show and says that they would be safe, but nowhere is safe. judges,

the lights are recognized as the science of numerous mass killings. the extreme threat to life pushes masses of people to one does board is sexual violence is also used as a weapon with as many as 250000 women raped during the genocide behind the buns. the violence, is it possible for power? between one this ruling hutus and the tootsie dominated will one the patch. you take from triple great for the mass magic eventually coming to an end. we now p. f fights has reached the capital pic ali in july 19. 94 may lead by pull to gummy, the wind is coming presidents that make it in the days that followed up and takes control of the country. arresting those accused of being involved in the genocide

over the years since tens of thousands of, of london's have been convicted. but 100 small suspects are still at large. ringback the numbers of the data are impossible to comprehend. take the example of the yeah, my to genocide memorial sites. a single church with $5000.00 people limited over the course of 3 days, the w's. mario miller reports from the size of one of the worst mess because of the genocide it's not often that sometimes finds the strings to come here to form a church. now a memorial to the rhonda genocide, she says this is the place where she refused to die. i'm going to tell me where you're coming back to this place 30 years later. i think it is still a big wound, but it helps me to remember many of the people who died here, man, according to their belongings,

are still here frozen in time. and each piece tells the tale. a person's elbows tightly tied behind their back before being executed, toddlers killed with their parents. the killings that started a few days earlier, many to 2 families, including sent out and had children suited refuge here. thinking they'd be safe is good and not the 1st stay through grenades into the church and many people lost their legs. i was so much screaming. those who tried to leave the church were hacked with machetes, though a place of saying to me, turned into a burial ground. the remains of more than 45000 people rest at the memorial side. someone display a reminder of the massacre. shantelle managed to escape a judge was injured at a corner in that we fled to

a nearby school when i felt something hit me in the mouth and other parts of my body where i was holding my kids. i think it was a grenade. then i saw that one of my babies had been killed and that able, she had a nearby bushes, but they ended at home with the who to munitions. committing the genocide found her intact her with a machete to a rock. i to her head the friend lying next to her hiding under banana leaves was done to life safety. so they came back off and they rammed a spear and to me, mocking us saying you cockroaches don't die easily. i stayed in there for some time . my wounds were rod and comedy had maggots falling out of them. days later has been found and brought to safety, 30 kilometer south east. another community is trying to reconcile with a past and move in its former perpetrators and the families of the victims live

side by side mean noises. 2 brothers and a cousin were killed during the genocide. these quin knobby but they were brutally killed hacked here and here in the head in the throat, all parts of the body shred it was done by the my done brothers. i loved the hands that would have supported me down as the man who killed them simply i'm at the bottle was tried and one of one does pose genocide drugs. you know, it's been 12 years in prison on is really easy us to use for forgiveness and she accepted. now the regularly participating group activities together with other form of perpetrators and victims. it's all part of a government program to create unity among brandons and re establish trust following the genocide that split communities would. would that work for sion tied to could see, forgive her attackers and killers of her baby what, what do we have

a good country and that has brought us together and we loved each other. but it does not rule out the possibility that there could still be remnants of genocide ideology. in some people's hearts you can't see and people's heart, it's an older woman. her son was killed during the genocide would now be a grown like other kids in charge of some kind of hopes that generation would be able to put the genocide and the divisions of the past behind them. or at some say, the desire to overcome division has come at a cost. polk odami has played a leading role in run to since 1994, becoming president in 2000. and there are no signs. he intends to go a position leader of x, y, and you'll be ray is one of click on this fits this chris x database. maureen, let us sit down with her and keep godly and us how fall has one become since the genocide with president to come me. he,

i say always the he was the deadline to pay this on to the right to mention that it is, it was, he was the mind. that's the one that needed to of the genocide by to today actively to use. i think that's we need the new fresh abroad in order than the session. so, but afraid nothing of it but to you there's some activities in to this and a new beer didn't give me to daddy. you kind of see that really there was so much of a man to me to getting bought into hot. we need it to be the also they have to for london. so that's, that's why i say it's a few years because what we actually, that will get didn't get it close to the ocean, is the sources we need to have a longer way to go. so what is needed in order to achieve that rate constant ation? what's needed is to to can nice to autumn one eyes or is story. i said one does s one in missions because on to 2 days or, or to start, that is 35, our country divides us onto today before the genocide that gets it to cease. and

during the genocide in the after the genocide there are so climate guessing money to come into the it's a simple just those of victims until today's no budget talk about it. but they have a lot of tapes and they look at these, they need to whom to express, they find affinity cooper credit. we've talked to that to we've had to 6 and you've been a long time critic of president for cut on the end. his government. he also challenge the official narrative as it just mentioned, of the genocide. what happened before and during the genocide. so could you give plane of its size? what do you mean by that? what kind of atrocities or crimes against humanity has been committed when they total the kind of get some money. they talk about the number of citizens where the kids, when they was in the roof and just come inside the land. when they was in day homes, when they they home sort of destroyed into and kids summer. so just and most of them committed to those crimes. and if i say to they say you got

a full rise policy middle on that, that isn't the choose. that is over the auditability editor for wanda. if we need really to bid in nation to have is to send a bit of different elements, we've come to have it. so spend a bit of development if we are not the north trust a month. as i said, one downs, because we need before to be one in nations. why where you bought from the next election to uh, because i was going down by one the quotes. even if the object on the quotes has cleared to my name, but did want a government refused to, to coordinate this, the decision of the one that i quotes and to the bundle mid to best fit into alex. so do you think that is out of fee of because you are too dangerous for the government during the party? oh say that to day candidates because the company is the popular among the london and the i see if you he's so popular. why do you order for that to be new

competition only for someone that has i don't a lot or understand why do to susie me to participate in the edison. but the sort of showing the answer is that they know if i'm going to in the competition for london, dwanda needed new flesh a blog. and they, they know that they can easily with extra and this is why they bundle him in to best. thank you. so much you have come london. so make of samuel issue with parents were killed in the genocide. he was 2 years old at the time and saved by his money. he's recently co produced a documentary where he's sold to understand what led to the mass murder. i'll be talking to simulation with off to this except off his food, which is called retaining history. the colonial roots of the genocide in rwanda. as the this is around a 1000 hillsborough dies the country i was born in 30 years

ago when it was 2 years old. the genocide was committed here. my parents and the big pots of my family, what killed i'm on a journey to find out about the roots of the 1994 genocide against the to see and rhonda. my name is some way to ship. i'm a see to make all of my parents killed near the killed by the militia, but i didn't know why. and as a kid or just thought he was wor between us 131450. that's. that's we asking questions. somebody from the ends reading books. and yeah, that's what, that's how i start understanding ok book children because of their customers are too close to to see if we speak to some language share to some culture. so i'm confident. how do we become, what was the identity before germany and the religious gym to the nicer one?

at the end of the match, essentially. what divided us to talking to a sales, or was it the to see twice already existed before community. it is around one percent of abundance called themselves twice the colonizers to defend them, as picking these natives who lived here before the who to and to it's just going to court a proof of do it to, to, to, to a system, to speak, rescue in the service ship doing a this looks like 1 o'clock because it isn't the sunday so, so high the meaning of for to, to see to are infrequently or rhonda. this is debated among historians to visit when they apply that to me or to, to cisco s good. on predictor of a more sort of,

if you have a tablet evictions. nope. either one separate community plus the switching can use the shockey 15. we will percentage frequency also around directly to the way us it to me. it is a period $130.00 to $1215.00. so i said to, you need to do should, is also going to swamped abc. these went to good to to see did what to do is want you to press the ideal to joe gave me to can miss was introduced to run that at the end of next century by european researches. they concluded that the tooth see where the so called negro hom bites who had integrated from the north and diminutive. this up was the engine this, which was for hundreds of years the, as i was a recession for this firm. i came across the recent german run and started the we've added that into it around 900 humanist calls,

kept in germany there with tongue from rhonda in 19 or 7 and 19 o 8. most of them are appropriate to by natural prodigies to named youngest. you kind of ski for over a 100 years, nobody in london knew about the existence of these 2 months because the united administrative b is used for classifying a good one. that's just to prove that there is a community in need wanda, in the cruise, the cruise is being the genocide, but it went to decades fit to i'm running a little bit about how my identity force destroyed, how these divisions came about and of quote, recorded history is the drum and so my next step now would be to go to the sea for myself. the

ability of the significance place for many reasons. first of all, the so called co conference in which africa was divided like a piece of cake and given to colonial powers, took place here in berlin, in 1884, in 1885 parisha furies to divide. the humanity of teresa is worth very popular. also a burial museum for its total debit to of the after the kind ocean yet departments fixed on lucian, instructed the colonial researches to appropriate the mode. the $9000.00 human remains from germany could only is most east cause but also for skeletons. whoever did that open grace took out the scouts. normally when you just go participation studies measuring a typo, g this goes and the rest of the body, but it's not important because you quickbook detect races when he started and run to run it pointing the finger. i think someone's saying i'm going to 1st was

introduce a rush. i'm curious on fostering picture think that somehow in germany it can be held responsible in some type of form of the just sending the wrong way. 94 in the way. yes. because they brought this distribution in between to see what to question . here's another one. is it the must that off to this division, which the trim and brought to run the force of the must that 100 just later? she knows. i type in the next step of my journey is belgium. the 1916 dimensions to quote and you're confronted from the germans. during world war one, product can seem to give a 1000 run of troops to the germans to fight against have been just. but the builders wonder will have to cut off or under, under the minded affiliate of nations, systematically, dixon, a division of a to, to central. to put into that for me to meet the gentleman,

just have to go to run the list talking to me to run that so. so that was the initial to these pick from really a powers was actually this is to magic dictation. to teach. this is a judge and some if i people, induction will cause a to district to begin that they are from different and i am joined institute here by their funding. so make has some you issue with who we just saw in that film of the day. it's really good to be spoken to. you're welcome to date of me is africa. sam? i was particularly struck in fact, surprised to the, during the documentary that actually the what's who to into, to identity was rooted into, sought out was clause. right. so this was not sort of an ethnic difference between

these 2 peoples. it was haves and have nots. but as you then take us through this documentary, we learned that the colonizers actually pushed the notion that said that there was a difference. yeah, absolutely, that's right, and it's, it's one of the biggest, i think, misconceptions i think in history where you with this profile creation of an identity that is not there before in which i read. because of course is a new one. the inbound in some of the original countries and yeah, in many of the general defense, we to go to the, to the source of that's of when did you see the difference come from? yeah, so we, so you traveling across rwanda coming to your number of countries here as well. you missed a lot of people. you spoke to a lot of people. a lot of research went into this by the end of the project. what was the one thing you would have said stuck with you? and so we'd have to kind of because a lots today just in this, in this process. but i think one of the biggest thing that stuck with me is there

is look to that's the was a creation of music is alonda and other cars. and there was any casual, actually occurred on your intention to occur in your project to actually push a different system from the creating differences, but also to politically push differences and to make these people seem to have been different. and that was for me there and they said that the biggest thing that it was look in these papers looked like just the actual project on the stage. was a really a political. we are divided people. yes. we race track striking to discover that. yeah, because we have people in the arguments about colonialism. you hear people making the points and you highlight this as well. that, oh, but colonialism wasn't all that bad. it brought civilization. there it's, it's a very stupid the argument because that clinician position was ordered by the stocks today with all that's introduced to actually dealing with the consequences of that. it's lucky to only the genocide in rwanda,

even today and 2024 seem dealing with that's we come to borders. identities, destruction of casual structures. duties of that is something that still has shows consequences on the african continents to that. so i don't, i don't see any positive outcome from collision or some of the visual was them before, you know, send your parents were both killed. you are 2 years old and that time, a lot of your family members would to, the city is on. right. i'm just wondering what more you feel like you lost me, but also way you are at, in the sort of like the healing process would, would you say that today? city is on as a parent yourself, that when you're at peace with what happened that youth way, are you in, in this whole like process of having to confront what happened and then also having to move on. it's, it's, it's a, it's a very interesting thing because people of my generation where there was

a young thing, the genocide is now and today that's one of those that was just, i'm to confront that history. i mean, there's a generation of people reading evidence and over the time, hadn't had the time to we move on from me or dealing with it and for us, i think starting now that's what adults that you having to talk about on the subject . mostly now dealing with all of this, so i'll say, i don't know it and we try to move on of course, and to be positive and the country is moving on. but on the personal and emotional level is something that is still uh, it'd be a big thing to explore and to do with it on a daily basis. so i think it's an ongoing gap or journey with the, with the heating. yeah. yeah. well, thank you for taking us on that journey with you. i thought the film was a standard, a standard projects and we just learned so much about what happened and you'll kind of free and how it is still a real present reality today. so thank you. so much for coming into thank you very much. and that is it for

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