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antavius records of sleepless explains why don't we test 2020 that's all for now coming up. what mex for the global economy means if you would, i am every sites correct, appear to be the garage out. catch us with have more use of the top of the out my name is the calls back said wow, thank you so much for joining in. welcome to don't hold bad. a lot of people do that. it's all about saying it aloud. that's what it being nosy bay, like good. everyone to king check out the award winning called called the called back. the a so mr. going to thank you very much for making time for the developing these busy weeks of the year. let's talk
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about the good news 1st. um, the great recession, some of the warning of doesn't seem to really have materialized. global growth is expected to remain steady at over 3 percent this year. how do you explain this kind of surprising resilience? well, we had the yes, we had a very resilient global economy. were predicting global growth, a 3.3 percent this year and next year. and that's the same growth number as last year. 2023. so it's kind of a steady growth, not super charge. some and a story cool growth rate that we like to point to is what we had between $22019.00 . that was more like 3.8 percent. so it's modest, but very far from the global recession or anything that may have been predicted at the time of the coming out of the pandemic and the inflation search. so what explains it? we've had a good news on the supply side. so unwinding of supply fractions restrictions and
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supply chains. and we've had also very good news on the labor side, a very strong increase in labor force participation. overall labor supply is expanded in many countries that has provided a lot of support for economy connectivity going forward. and then some countries also had very strong demand side that us in particular, maybe we'll get into that. and so the strength of the us a consumer has been, has been quite strong in the last we can go there right away. um, maybe you can talk a little bit about this spring here in the united states. yeah, so what we had in the us is we had both positive developments on the supply side and on the demand side. so on the supply side, as i've mentioned already, labor supplies expanded, increasing labor force overall with a significant components coming from foreign born workers. that's been kind of the little bit of the hidden secret behind some of these resilient to. we've seen that in the us. see this in canada, we've seen this in the okay,
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we see this in other european economies as well. strong labor supply, strong productivity growth, in the case of the u. s. t, there's been u. s. economy has been doing very well in that form. quite a bit of investment as well. so these are kind of on the supply side. and then on the demand side, households, we've accessed savings, a lot of public spending. and so you had also, there's really an economy on the demand side on balance. the us economy is probably one where the demand forces are having a little bit of the advantage right now. and that's why we are seeing maybe a little bit of a slow down or even a plateau in terms of the pass of this inflation. because the demand becomes, we'd strong then that fuels inflation pressures and that's kind of where we are. right? so we're going to send you right. migration is part of the success story that here in this country. it is helping to in 2 ways. it is help because, you know, of course more workers when there is a strong demand for labor and, and as the economy is reopened,
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people had accessed savings. they wanted to go out and consume. and so there was strong demand, and businesses went through the higher end in the context in which they would have been limited labor supply. the no, it's a fed into even stronger inflation. pressures, wage pressure is tight labor markets. so the, the increase in labor supply as contributed to off the labor market without causing a recession. so this is kind of this immaculate, this inflation that people are talking about when it comes out that one of the drivers may have been the increase in labor. so, so i want to 0 in, in the outlook for 3 economies in particular the us, china and the u, because we see some really interesting differences both of us and the chinese economies of, for cost to slow down in 2025 by the eurozone is expected to see recovery, why all the worlds to biggest economy is losing steve and to see you on course to
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kind of play catch up with something that you asked. what we're seeing is, of course we have mentioned the fact that the demand is very strong, right? now, so in the sense the economy is running a little bit hot, and some of that is going to go away as monetary policy remains tight. and we will see the labor market cooling a little bit more so that explain some of that unwinding of this, this front in 2024. so we are predicting that growth is going to go to 2.7 percent this year. and 1.9 percent by by 2025 in china. or we were projecting for 2024 growth that would slow down to 4.6 percent. now the new chinese numbers came out last night. they point to maybe is from the resilience in the chinese economy in the 1st quarter. so we'll see how we revise on numbers. but overall, the weakness in the chinese economy is coming from a weak property sector that is wing down consumer confidence. how's prices are still going down or not increasing? we see a decline number of new construction. so this is
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a sector that remains weekend is going to wait on consumer confidence and domestic demand going forward. and that's where we are marketing down our forecast for china in the u area. we start from the opposite end of the region was hit by a very sharp energy price shop in 2020 to 2023. it's coming out of that, but the money to policy is still tight. so what we're seeing going forward is one of the policy will start to ease that will use financial conditions. and then as wages continue to grow and we cover wages, purchasing power of workers of decline and recent years in europe, and they're expected to catch up, that will provide additional purchasing power to workers in household and that will sustain the demand. so let's talk about developing countries emerging and developing countries overall i expected to continue to post solid drug with india, in particular, is expected to stay strong. roll over 6 percent. um,
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would you say that this gross uh, is primarily homegrown, or is kind of this country uh, benefiting from wesson attendance to the couple of de risk. uh, the types of china. yes it is. is, is one of the, one of the bright spots in the world economy. we have a revised affords for both numbers for last fiscal year 2324 which ended at the end of march uh, quite substantially. the 7.8 percent growth. that's really very, very high growth number for the country like india. and then we're expecting 6.8 percent in the next fiscal year. the one that just started that's also revised upwards a little bit. so this is in the context in which the economy is really doing very well and is expected to keep some of that momentum going forward. there's, there's a strong demand there with quite a bit of investment, including public investment. and so we're going to see a growth numbers are fairly solid in india and we're expecting that the medium term
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grows are around 6.5 percent. so are also fairly, fairly high. uh, although those numbers have not been changed from our previous rounds. now, it is true that the trade tensions that have emerged in the global economy and some of them are between the us and china. but more broadly, we've seen emergence of trade pensions. these lead to reconfiguration of, of supply chains and integration of supply chains. and that can benefit sort of countries. now this is not a story for india right now in terms of the aggregate numbers we're seeing. but it's certainly a story. and when we look at countries like vietnam, or mexico, we see a lot of trade that used to take place between say, china and the united states. that would be, we routed through this. what do we call them? connect to countries they help keep the, the global gluten, the global economy together, the global route with you once, and they prevent sharper, sharper. this integration of,
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of global trade. we of course have to talk about the 2 conflicts in ukraine and the middle east. if you factor those into your predicts. so we, of course, we're monitoring the situation and the tensions in the me, the least a starting to escalate back in the last quarter of next year. and that is certainly part of our, of our projections. but we flag as a one of the downside risk for the global economy, the emergence of additional joe political attentions. and certainly the events of the last weekend would, would be in that category. it's too early to assess the impact that this might have . but when we did, you know, report is run an adverse scenario and imagine what would happen if an escalation of 2 political tensions led to an increase in energy prices and also disrupted
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a shipping on the scale that is higher than what we've seen up until now. and we've seen some disruptions and shipments for instance, between asia and europe for the red sea. and this was kind of so you know, our scenario, we look at something that is a little bit sharper than that. and what we find is that it leads to higher inflation around the world. this higher inflation would push central banks to type in money to policy in order to keep inflation under control that would weigh down on activity. so we would have a combination of slightly higher inflation, you know, simulations. we find that if you had any increasing or prices of about 15 percent compared to a baseline, that would translate into about 0.7 percentage point higher inflation globally. and that would also be associated with lower economy giving. let's stick with russia for a moment. and it's economy has proven pretty resilient, but the growth is expected to slow down to think this might reflect
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on an expectation of a conclusion to the end, the war and ukraine. one of the stuff from where we are. so where we are right now is indeed we have marked up a growth projections for russia for 2024 from about you know, 2.6 percent to 3.2. so it's a significant upward revision. and the drivers of that revision, the 4 things going on. one, you mentioned, oil exports of been quite resilient in volume, and then oil prices of remain fairly high. so that generates resources for the russian economy that can help a fund it's activities. the 2nd we've seen strong investment in international investment for 2 reasons. one is of course, because there's a military effort, but also because it's, some of the private investment is substituting for, for, for an investment that was there before. and then 3rd, very importantly, we have fairly strong consumption. this type labor market,
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unemployment rate is around 3 percent. the economy is running is running hot. and in fact, we see inflation pressures in, in the russian economy. so the russian economy at this point is not running at the level, it is consistent with his potential growth, it's running above that and we see this inflation pressures. so some of the, some of the decline we're going to see is when that accessed stimulus, if you want is, is going to come out. and they're, what we find is that the russian economy is going to settle on. the medium term goes past that in our baseline, continue to factors in the effective sanction. so we make up projections, assuming that the sections that are in place right now, all going to remain in place for our forecast or wise and, and we, we estimate that they have an effect in lowering medium term gross prospects for the russian economy. in fact, we've lowered them from about 1.7 percent that was before the war to about one and a quarter percent. at this point. what does all of that mean uh,
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horror restaurants, ability to invest in the war machinery. so far, uh would were sending is uh, on the fiscal side there's really ample fiscal space when you look at the, the russian economy. so this is not an economy that is running a huge fiscal deficit. now running a pretty conservative, pretty tight to both fiscal and monetary policy. despite the fiscal efforts in, in terms of new choice funding, we have to talk about a real briefly um, according to your reports, i'm 60 percent of workers in advanced economies will be affected by developments and artificial intelligence about house in a positive vein. the other half in a negative direction. so could you expand on that and how this breaks down across different sectors? right, so we, we, published in january is a big study on the potential impact of a i on labor markets. and our focus was on different types of occupations. so
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rather than look at industries directly, we decided to go one level deeper and look at the type of jobs and the tasks that people are doing. and think deeply about which ones were likely to be maybe substituted by a i or the ones that might be enhanced by a i. and we did a very detailed care. uh, you know, uh, type ology of the different tasks. and we found that, you know, some of you might think about some of the professional services, some of the more managerial positions that might be enhanced by a are, some of the more clerical types of positions might be substituted by a i that can maybe, uh, do the same type of task, one other for unskilled task experiences, then the, i mean it'd be as relevant because it is not likely to substitute for that. so then you can map that into into sectors and think about which sectors might be, might be more vulnerable, and certainly some sectors and services of professional services. you might see
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some of them be benefiting from the introduction of a i, unlike some other sectors or maybe focus more on a on more basic tasks. thank you very much. you're welcome. bye. the . this is the new pizelle, a 3008 appealing electric s u v co pay and it is by no means the 1st car of this
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