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get 2 more months after his re election, the president of the democratic republic of congo, felix, the 2 security, came to belin. lookout 0, an occasion for the w to do an interview. mister president, welcome to appropriate for you to me. of the news mfc made them. what was it look pretty don't nothing. yeah. gong lisa, your country has lots of wells, including strategic minerals. the so called 3 t's titled them, tungsten, 10, bought the 2, then stopped just recently. have governments, lawyers accused us tech giant apple of using the legally mines minerals and the products that you made. the roads that were alleged to be extracted from congress mines transporters and then longer it mainly via wanda upgrade. the accusation goes

for the saying that all these alleged activities financed um groups and eastern t r c. that's even an ultimatum given why exactly nipple cause i says designed drama. quite simply. so it may stop. it's been going on for 30 years. ever since the international community, aust, us to open up voters to the influx of refugees fleeing the genocide in rwanda. these, you know, see, the will wonder if i'm on the at that point people involved in the genocide also slipped to see on the, on a fusion. and they entered the d l. c with the web on this because the oldest had been given from somewhere still within the international community and to let them in with that weapons. the note that the us under the list down 3 at icloud is a press law and jump to that orlando is given a rights in pursuit inviting itself into the democratic republic of congo. to hung down these people, a book just as a seizure, no, see, their mother was in law,

but unfortunately for when to didn't make the distinction. i will see my so also massacred congolese we though. and since then, domestic a hasn't ended meaning to the one, the going to be number one to discover that that will minerals in the deal. and we take on that. and rolanda made contacts in the international community that enabled it to sell these block minerals for the the sure. now i found out that the found this, i mean i, you saw the mean i of minerals obtained by using finance against our populations to, to force them to leave the localities with these minerals have found it. look at the date. the kid is not getting on to see me and i a, a we little by since then for linda has become the representative of these minerals

for the international community for these multi nationals. luckily note that on us on both sides in minutes, the national not who do i need to do? yeah, i just mentioned the 1990 is going for london. refugees came cause a book. he was a, was all the only now it's 30 years late to another place off. do you? this is why i said this been going on searching it is authors on today and use them . congo was seeing the presence of the m 23 movement, which according to multiple statements by your government, is supported by rolanda. do you plan to meet around as president polk or gum in the days to come? we are good moines yet to get the there's currently an initiative be taken by i'm going president bush well around. so yeah. who's been appointed mediator in this conflict by the african union? yep. see these up is over please. and he's already put forward piece initiatives on several occasions,

but they've all being sabotaged. everything was sabotaged by government and his regime to basel the the know some of them on down the if you, we really, it's a final cross roads. don't that the there was now what we believed to be a last chance. and i want to give peace a chance as much as possible. doing the shots that the fish perceived. but obviously that's not because of weaknesses. and we're not always going to be patient like this wishing piece once. i also had done that be the 25th of us because of that too. does that mean that you are still prepared as agreed to meet paulk again? is it to show the cause on the home front where it is? i mean i always said that i never meet the m $23.00 a month. i'm sure that because as i said, it's an empty sho. and it shows a fuck, this fabricated to justify the aggression against my country on top of the d. c.

was just the amount is just the feel i get, i see on the content won't be that i have this is make on here. lead to the real address, the real criminal is pull coming up and i want to meet him not to beg him or to negotiate anything with it for the dom on. it's to ask him and tell him clearly, i to why that he's a criminal, that enough is enough now and that he has little game is known to everyone is that to me it's enough what he's done to my country and my people. and it's time for him to leave the territory, the soil of my country, the 30 to i'm to some of them will be, it comes, you mentioned the multinational companies. absolutely. but maybe others to what do you expect from them, cause that on the opposite that may be, i'm, is surely on this is the way that you'll find out the investigations continue to go. so i mean of

a similar serious thing is that these minerals are extracted from the congolese subsoil at the price of blood on the, as i said by using violence and tara to make the populations living in these localities. fleet l street that is on possible at the bottom then that transported a long trail was fine motorcycles to relent on foot. wonder a lot. and the, the stumped by an international n g a, we quote all that which obviously itself, segments the fact that the blood minerals pauses them off as if they were minimal, its mind and orlando plastic. when they passive on to say that they mean i explain one it book i mean until to gummy even had the goal to say once that the cold time and whose country is a better quality than in the d. c. democratic decal. would you please, you know, that was near as it ended? so let's get back to the situation in the democratic republic of congo. but right

now we're talking about the minerals being mind to the east of the d all say. so let's focus on the east, according to the c, h, a. since the beginning of this year, more than 358000 people have been newly displaced. and they say that the number of displaced people has reached around 7100000. and this is largely due to the armed conflict in the cables and do towards google. and what is your response today to the people living in the displaced persons camps and looking back, he bought you by him by. well, just hoping to go home to see, to me i the do, if all goes well and i pray to god that it really continues like this. the a tory case will be resolved in the months to come and will be able to smoke the piece nicest. what data it has. so i don't know if people that know just be north keyboard, where the issue is, the plundering of results is from the d. c, and complicity with certain multi nationals from industrialized country. it's not

going to be under the subsidy. it will for sure that something else going on. and so it depends precisely on these countries which are home to these multi nationals, they meet the national now it's up to them to put pressure on these companies to stop this elicit trait becomes of it so, so formats elicit, know some have a place on the phone with the representatives of the d. c. some. uh, and we're open till discussions. apparently, we'd rather talk about exchange about when, when partnerships with all these multi nationals, you know, so not then let them make do with this. mccarthy. traffic is taking place at the cost of all citizens like i believe you sophistry of a live. he doesn't know policy, but you shouldn't put in all the need. mr. president, jeff just expressed an expectation to the countries that help most multi nationals including the united states, i guess as always, all together in the case of apple. so what exactly are you waiting for?

what kind of sanctions, what kind of influence, what the american government have to for the med, political, velma, america, and zip. i don't think i could look as long as you know, in this case what sanctions could be applied. it sounds like it's up to the to just reach to think about it. but there was surely penalties and convictions for complicity in crimes. it seemed well not. so i'm not expecting a specific sanction so such from that just that goes as long as he knows that these are countries with a judiciary is free, independent, efficient on it, does it what this kind of just is to touch this type of traffic and the traffic is your to good is a level the companies will thirty's are ready to open the discuss of punishing to exploit these minerals and when, when model uh that back to now. yeah. oh, expedite this is assuming that a demo debit gotten, you know, got, you know,

most of it was a, is it because of all these misfortunes method, this wealth has cost us that i have to capitalize on that by saying we must adult being aligned to extraction the quite simply data in the big stocks, the on to some bremo on the pano mean that they take home interest that processed elsewhere. and then they come and sell us the finished product. no, we don't develop it. no ma'am. we want to develop our own value chain in the d. c. our sales regional as far as possible as it can extend l street. so sit down, get back to now. yeah. and then in what i quote those when, when partnership stuff goes out. so i think we'll be able to find poverty was ridiculous by creating jobs on prompts and raising wealth. and at the same time, have partners will also benefit from this partnership. so it will then i'll set out

there now, you know, by example. so apple will negotiate directly with the d. c. that's going to be the democratic people, of course, with the democratic republic of congo, who get why would you want to negotiate with a come and see who's doing business on the backs of dead congolese? you saw you telephones, you have in your countries, contain the blood of the congolese, get a phone, the cause of easy, normal be content. another song, big one where they pick on law is and how do you judge the memorandum of understanding that was concluded between the european union and rhonda in february to promote the development of sustainable and resilience value. change for raw materials to plan you coming up in. it's like awarding a prize for war and he'll age. you'll be a scandalous to the european union validate such a bargain of file bach and much on that. it's disgusting maps. on the c.

c, they would the system of body do payments. you've just talked about a bonus, but that's a very strong time when that business. don't you think about rwanda, the way down as united states, don't you think that rwanda is given more weight than the d r. c? on the international stage would be your best bet i see when i see, but i see no budget to where we got the, the domain vendor. no, not a tool, but look since 2022, when the aggression again been on c and we immediately denounced it wake or not. you see that the narrative has changed on the think a new so it is only been a year and a half since this happened, a lawyer as rolanda has been fooling the whole world for 13 years and they know that they've had typed in all of it. uh so you have to give us time to make comments of that complete silence in our country. find them very lead us who will this country it will do no news on today. my recognize that even the omi was

completely disjointed, so weakened and disorganized that they was unable to stand up against any kind of regression. it does have plus i have to do is i place you, it's okay. and on who are you planning your whole life for a process of reconciliation, a post that pro says that will lead to peace because of that. and you said you also wanted peaceful the people who live in the east of your country in particular, was hoping safety on home to keep in your homes. if you say about poke a gamma of what you said about him here, who do you think can be that person that that's one to believe that sort of give them the surgery or says give them but they both got them. well, whoever comes off to pull it down, then he's not a tunnel, just have a baby. i hope that off to him that will be a head of state who can understand the meaning and merits of living in peace with neighbors or the v bump that makes it was

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