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get to him level months after his re election, the president of the democratic republic of congo, felix to security, came to belen look of 0 and occasion for the w to do an interview. mr. president, welcome to appropriate for you to me. of the news. mfc made them. what was that look pretty don't nothing. yeah. gong lisa, your country has lots of wells, including strategic minerals, the so called 3 tees, cancel them tungsten 10, thought the then stopped just recently. have governments, lawyers accused us tech giant apple of using the legally mines minerals in the products that you may know, roads that were alleged to be extracted from chronic release mines transporters and then longer to mainly via wanda upgrade. the accusation goes for the saying that

all these alleged activities financed groups in eastern p r c. that's even an ultimatum given why exactly nipple cause i says designed drama. quite simply. so it may stop. it's been going on for 30 years. ever since the international community, aust, us to open up voters to the influx of refugees fleeing the genocide in rwanda vision . oh see, the will wonder if i'm on the at that point people involved in the genocide also slipped to see on that and on a fusion. and they entered the d l. c with the web on this because the oldest had been given from somewhere still within the international community and to let them in with that weapons. the note that the us under the list down 3 at icloud is a press law on a delta that orlando is given a right in pursuit inviting itself into the democratic republic of congo. to hung down these people up the book just as a says, you know, see, there may model is

a month, but unfortunately, blended didn't make the distinction obviously, and so also massacred congolese we though. and since then domestic hasn't ended the meaning of a new one. the way of, of going to be number one to discover that there were minerals in the deal. and we want that. and rolanda made contacts in the international community that enabled it to sell these blood minerals for the the sure. now i found the found this, i mean i, you saw the mean i of the minerals obtained by using finance against our populations to force them to leave the localities with these minerals are found. look at it, a dollar can not get on to see me and i a, a we low by since then,

for lender has become the representative of these minerals for the international community for these multi nationals. luckily not that don't us on a full say minutes. the national not when you do need. yeah. you just mentioned the 1990 is going for london. refugees came cause a book. he was a was all the only now it's 30 years later on or that plays off do you? this is why i said this been going on searching it is authors on today and use them . congo, we're seeing the presence of the m. 23 measurements, which according to multiple statements by your government, is supported by rolanda. do you plan to meet around as president polk? i'm in the days to come? we are good money is yet to get the there's currently an initiative being taken by golden president as well around so yeah. who's being appointed mediator in this conflict by the african union? yep, see there's a, there's of a believer and he's already put forward piece initiatives on several occasions,

but they've all being sabotaged every single, sabotaged by car gum and his regime to bounce off the the, the know some of them on down the if we really as a final crossroads don't that the there is now what we believe to be a last chance. and i want to give peace a chance as much as possible. doing the shots that update the piece for you. but obviously that's not because of weaknesses. and we're not always going to be patient like this wishing piece once. i also had done that be the 25th of us because of that too. does that mean that you're still prepared as agreed to meet paulk again? is it to show the cause on the home front where it is? i mean i've always said that i never meet the m 23 a month. i'm sure that because as i said, it's an empty sho, as it shows a select this fabricate to, to justify the aggression against my country. on top of the d. c was just the

amount is just the feel august. i see on the content won't be that i have this the make on here, lead to the real address. the real terminal is pull coming up and i want to meet him not to beg him or to negotiate anything with it for the long . it's to ask him and tell him clearly, i to why that he's a criminal, that enough is enough now and that his little game is known to everyone either to me, it's enough what he's done to my country and my people. and it's time for him to leave the territory, the soil of my country, the 30 to i'm to some of them will be, it comes, you mentioned the multinational companies. absolutely. but maybe others to what do you expect from them cause that's on the opposite. that may be, i'm, is surely on this is the slide that you'll find out the investigations continue to go. so i mean of

a similar serious thing is that these minerals are extracted from the congolese subsoil at the price of blood on the, as i said by using filings and tara to make the populations living in these low calories. fleet alfred the song possible at the bottom then that transported a long trail was fine motorcycles to relent. but when the law and the, the stumped by an international n g a, we quote all that which obviously itself, segments the fact that the blood minerals pauses them off as if they were minimal, its mind in valenda passing on. they passive onto them, you know, explain one, it book i mean, and cool to gummy even had to go to say once that the cold time and whose country is the best a quality then in the d. c. democratic decal. is you please, you know, that was near as it ended. so let's get back to the situation in the democratic

republic of congo. but right now we're talking about the minerals being mind to the east of the d all say. so let's focus on the east, according to the c, h, a. since the beginning of this year, more than 358000 people have been newly displaced. and they say that the number of displaced people has reached around 7100000. and this is largely due to the armed conflict in the cables and do towards google. and what is your response today to the people living in the displaced persons camps and looking got q bought to buy him by law just hoping to go home to see to about me i the do if all goes well and i pray to god that it really continues like this. the a tory case will be resolved in the months to come and will be able to smoke the piece with you that it has to. i don't know enough people that know just be north keyboard, where the issue is the plundering of results is from the d. c. in complicity with certain multi nationals from industrialized countries. not going to be endlessly at

the substitute or to show that something else going on. and so it depends precisely on these countries which are home to these multi nationals. it may be nice or not, it's up to them to put pressure on these companies to stop this elicit trait because of it so, so formats elicit, know some level based on some with the representatives of the d. c some. and we're open till discussions. apparently, we'd rather talk about exchange about when, when partnerships with all these multi nationals, you know, so not to then let them make do with this. mccarthy. traffic is not data is taking place at the cost of all citizens lie about the surface free of a lot of heat. there are no policy to you, sir. putting on the need. mr. president, jeff just expressed an expectation to the countries that have most multinational, including the united states, i guess as a result of the in the case of apple. so what exactly are you waiting for?

what kind of sanctions, what kind of incidence should the american government have those limit to look around them? i mean, we can do that, but i don't think i can get something. i don't know, in this case what sanctions could be applied. it sounds like it's up to the to just reach and think about it. but there was surely penalties and convictions for complicity in crimes. it seemed well not. so i'm not expecting a specific sanctions such from that, just that goes as long as he knows that these are countries with a judiciary is free, independent, efficient on it, does it what this kind of just is? because this type of traffic and the traffic is your to good is a level the companies will, thirty's are ready to open the discuss of punishment to exploit these minerals and when, when model uh that back to now. yeah. oh, expedite this is assuming that a demo debit gotten, you know, got, you know, was of a mazda,

is it because of all these misfortunes that this wealth has cost us? that i have to capitalize on that by saying we must dealt with being aligned to extraction. the quite simply data in the big stocks the on to some bremo on the pano mean that they take um interest that processed elsewhere. and then they come and sell us the finished product. no, we don't develop it. no ma'am. we want to develop our own value chain in the d. c. our sales who's really low as far as possible as it can extend l street. so sit down, get back to now. yeah. and then in what i quote those when, when partnership stuff goes out. so i think we'll be able to fight poverty while ridiculous by creating jobs on prompts and raising wealth on them. and at the same time, have partners will also benefit from this publish it. so it will then i'll set out

there now, you know, by example. so apple will negotiate directly with the d. c. that's going to be the democratic people, of course, with the democratic republic of congo, who get why would you want to negotiate with a come and see who's doing business on the backs of debt congolese, you saw you telephone's, you have in your countries contained the blood of the conquer least get a phone the cause of ac not will be contin under some big one where they pick all this. and how do you judge the memorandum of understanding that was concluded between the european union and rhonda in february to promote the development of that sustainable and resilient value chains for raw materials to plan you come into play and it's like awarding a prize for war and he'll age, you'll be a scandalous to the european union validate such a bargain of the file, bach and much on that. it's disgusting much on the c c,

they would probably do pretty much. you've just talked about a bonus, but that's a very strong time one that you don't you think felt rwanda the ident, don't as you and then see, don't you think that rwanda is given more weight than the d. r. c on the international stage would be your best bet. i see when a feedback i see no budget to maybe got the the domain and no, not a tool. but look since 2022, when the aggression again, they don't see. and we immediately denounced it wake or not. you see that the narrative has changed to come pick a new so it is only been a year and a half since this happened, a lawyer as rolanda has been fooling the whole world for 30 years. and they know that they'll have to type in all of it. uh so you have to give us time to make comments of that complete silence in our country on the ship by the very leaders who wrote this country. it was already known as on today. my recognize that even

the army was completely disjointed, so weakened and disorganized that they was unable to stand up against any kind of regression. it does have plus i have to do is i just assume it's ok. and on who are you planning your whole life for a process of reconciliation, a post that pro says that will lead to peace the cause of death. and you said that you also wanted peaceful the people who live in the east of your country in particular with hoping so key on home to pin your homes. if you say about poke a gamma of what you said about him here, who do you think can be that person that this one to pull the so to give you and the surgery was says give them but they both got me. well, whoever comes off to pull the gun down, then he's not a tunnel, just have a baby. i hope that off to him that will be a head of state who can understand the meaning and merits of living in peace with neighbors or the v of on fabrics. it was a mess. people have seen certain places,

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