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of course, we say there is never giving up every weekend on d w the, this is data being use africa coming up on the programming code. some of the world's most popular smartphones have been made using blogs, minerals, the president of the democratic republic of congo, believe so. you can use as the tech giant apple of building it's flagship products using illegally acquired minerals in a trade which he alleges lawanda is facilitating. why would you want to negotiate with a come and see who's doing business on the fax? it's dead congolese on the telephone to have in your countries contain the blood of the concrete, get a phone because of a, you know, the content of a song to pick one more, the president just
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a katie speaks on this exclusively to beat up. the news also coming up a virtual reconstruction to illustrate the now most settlement targeted by german colonial troops. and once now the maybe the victim, defendants want the one crunch some months ago, officially recognized as a genocide. the hello, i'm told me on a lot of people welcome to the program or the president of the democratic republic of congo as lashed out at the apple, the tech dimes for using so cold blooded minerals from his country for the manufacturing of apple products present. felix, she's a katie also to use neighboring lawanda of facilitating the illegal export of these minerals will take a listen to his exclusive interview with dw. after this report. the d. c went
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on says from apple, overweight sources, the mineral components for its devices. in a letter to apple lawyers query the use of 10 to them 10 and test the so called 3 teen minerals. they allowed g found an eastern p c, a volatile region with rebel groups profiting off autism and mining. the dfcs claim is the minerals of smuggled from its territory to render with a loan, to insult apple and other bias from around the world. apple has 3 weeks to respond and the d. c. government is report to p, looking into all the 2 options for its pod. apple denies the accusations, the company said it has found no reasonable basis to conclude that any of the 3 team, minerals, and its supply chain financed a benefit to groups in the region, minerals from the d. c,
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a critical to producing the will smartphones and many of the electronic devices. in fact, it is the main source for natural resources needed for global technological advancement . the dfcs minerals which great lakes region has been played by violence since the 1990s. tensions re imaged in late 2020 when, when the rebels reap known as m. 23 began recapturing sways of the territory. miss diaz, see the women western countries accuse window supporting rebel groups including m. 23 in a bit controlled the region spice, mineral resources, lender denies these allegations. presidents all the d, r. c. felix, just a katie, wasn't berlin and spelled exclusively to data. these teen garrett hauser and wendy bashing about why his country is threatening legal action against apple. because this is designed to them. uh,
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quite simply so it may stop. it's been going on for 30 years ever since the international community, aust, us to open up voters to the influx of refugees fleeing the genocide in rwanda. there's, you know, see the wonder of them on the, at that point people involved in the genocide also slipped to see on the, on a fusion. and they entered the d l. c with the web on this because the order had been given from somewhere still within the international community and to let them in with that weapons are not going to know that the us under that lease l. c. i think that is a place to the doctor that when to was given a writing pursuit inviting itself into the democratic republic of congo to hung down these people up books just as a decision. no, see, there may mother was a month. but unfortunately for when to didn't make the distinction, i will see my so also massacred congolese,
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we go. and since then domestic hasn't ended. the meaning of is the one that they have a going to be number one to discover that they were minerals in the deals. and we take on that. and rolanda made contacts in the international community that enabled it to sell these blood minerals for the the sure. now i found the found this, i mean i, you saw the mean i of the minerals obtained by using finance against our populations to force them to leave the localities where these minerals are found. look at it, a dollar kid is not getting on to see me and i a we though by since then for linda has become the representative of these minerals for the international community for these multi nationals. luckily note that on us on
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for say they minutes, the national not it was a need. yeah. you just mentioned the 1990 is going for london. refugees came cause a book. he was a overall the only now it's 30 years later on how that plays off. do you? this is why i said this been going on searching is accomplish on the day and east. i'm congo. was seeing the presence of the m 23 measurements, which according to multiple statements by your government, is supported by rolanda. do you plan to meet around as president polk? i'm in the days to come. we are good morning, dave, get the. there's currently an initiative being taken by golden president as well around so yeah. who's being appointed mediator in this conflict by the african union? yep. see there's a, there's of a leader and he's already put forward piece initiatives on several occasions. but they've all being sabotaged every single sabotaged by car gum and his regime to bounce off the the, the know some of them on down the if we really as
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a final crossroads don't that the there was now what we believed to be a last chance. and i want to give peace a chance as much as possible doing the shots that update the page for you. but obviously that's not because of weakness. and we're not always going to be patient like this wishing piece once i also wait on that, be the 25th of us because of that too. does that mean that you're still prepared as agreed to meet the bulk of gum? mit is it to show the cause on the home phone to where it is. i mean i always said that i never meet the m $23.00 a month. i'm sure that the because as i said, it's empty show. it shows a fuck these fabricate to, to justify aggression against my country on top of the deal. c. o is just a mom is just the feel i get i see on the content won't be that i am they say make on hey,
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i lead to the real address. the real criminal is pulled coming on today. nobody wants to meet him, not to beg him or to negotiate anything with it for the amount. it's to ask him and tell him clearly, i to why that he's a criminal, that enough is enough now and that his little game is known to everyone either to me, it's enough what he's done to my country and my people. and it's time for him to leave the territory, the soil of my country in the 32. i'm a southern demo be it comes, you mentioned the multinational companies. absolutely. but maybe others to what do you expect from them? because that's on the opposite. that may be, i'm is shortly, and this is the slide that you'll find out the investigations continue to see. i mean, the most serious thing is that these minerals are extracted from the congolese subsoil at the price of blood on the, as i said by using violence and terror for you to make the populations living in
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these localities. fleet l street that is on possible at the bottom then that transported a long trail was fine motorcycles to atlanta and full wonder a lot and the, the stumped by an international and g o, we quote, all that which obviously itself segments the fact that the blood minerals pauses them off as if they were minerals mind in valenda, passing on. they passive on to say that, they mean i explained one i said, putting on the need. mr. president, jeff just expressed an expectation to the countries that host multinational, including the united states. i guess in the case of apple. so what exactly are you waiting for? what kind of sanctions, what kind of influence, what the american government have to for the med political, velma, america, and zip. i'll take a look as long as you know, i don't know, in this case what sanctions could be applied. it sounds like it's up to the to just
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reach and think about it. but there was surely penalties and convictions for complicity in crimes to that same law. so i'm not expecting a specific sanctions. a search from that just that goes as long as i know that these are countries with the judiciary is free, independent and efficient on it. does it what this kind of just is because this type of traffic and the traffic is here to good is a level the companies will start to use a ready to open the discuss of punishment to exploit these minerals. and when, when model the impact or now? yeah. oh, expedite this is c mean a lot more they haven't gotten, you know, got, you know, have a mazda, is because of all these misfortunes that this wealth has cost us. that i have to capitalize on that by saying we must don't being aligned to extraction the quite simply data in their big stocks. the on to some bremo on the pano mean that they
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take home interest that processed elsewhere. and then they come and sell us the finished product. we're going to have a little bit and remember, we want to develop our own value chain in the d. c, our sales who's really low as far as possible as it can extend l street a. sit down to about to now. yeah. and then in what i quote those when, when partnerships us goes out. so i think we'll be able to find poverty while ridiculous by creating jobs. how long down the racing wells in under the same time have partners will also benefit from this partnership? so it will then i'll slip out there now, you know, by example. so apple will negotiate directly with the d. c. that's going to be the democratic people, of course, with the democratic republic of congo, who get why would you want to negotiate with a come and see who's doing business on the backs of debt congolese you saw your
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telephone to have in your countries contained the blood of the congolese because they found the cause of ac not will be contin under some big one more day. strong was the from felix, just a katie president of the democratic republic of congo in to watch the full interview on uh, youtube channel. we've off the london government to respond to the allegations and we hope we can have them on the program soon. the watching the domain is africa still to come. after years of campaigning and negotiations gone of stolen royal relics, return home to the ashanti came to namibia. now where i have read ro and nama communities have been commemorating 120 years since the genocide of that full fathers, by colonial forces, beheld
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a memorial procession in the town of literature. in what's now an annual ceremony. in 2021. germany's government apologize for the killings. we made up the 1st genocide of the 20th century as the german soldiers wiped out tens of thousands of hiero. and now my people with these brutal events will not the 1st of their kind by the gym and sweet. over a decade earlier, on april 12th 1893 colonial troops attacked a nama settlement, and killed dozens of residents to date. now, my descendants want the hon. cronsa massa, as it's known, recognized at the 1st genocide against it falls off is now a new documentary. it shines a more light on the event. it uses open source material descendants, accounts and 3 d visualization to investigate what happened on that crucial day in 18. 93 the morning of the attack,
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the chief inspector, all his men showed is to lift the village, lift the expectation that the gibbons sold here is what follows it. hendricks red with front of us. the germans attacked them from that side. so he to case, so just the men and they victory here thinking that the german style were follow the men he always felt that the men will fight only man and they left the women and the children at the settlement. but why did the germans did? they thought the poor ladies and the children, the whole bed, the less on the other side or the distribution of spent cartridges found during those field work indicates when most of the exchange of fire took place.
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supporting the oral accounts. the germans attacked the village directly to you from the east killing dozens. the reported number of victims of this onslaught were 88, almost 78 of them, women and children. additionally, around a 100 women and children were taken as captives. i speak now to see my little pat from the now my traditional leadership association . she joins us from our info and, and maybe a welcome to the the, the news africa. zoom out now why is this incident the mastic of 1893, not well known today? yes, um, unfortunately we seem to think about general site is something that happens in the
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home and the site is a process. it is not an event. and uh, you know, the entire of a commodious project was a project off till till at disposition of the people statement. and it's fact, it was a transfer of april 18, 93 when germany used it's a little actually power. and also a diplomacy to site protection treaties when the number of people say that they are not going to find any protection p t. germany decides is that they are going to use a full but this post, what's not only, you know, a military war, but it was still to evaluation. and of course on time. so i said the mission of, of the, the, the objective of this mission is to complete the ex terminate at the, the,
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the point, not my people. and so, yeah, this is how the entire genocidal campaign stopped it. a year later i'm the number from the co when people of cobra was what's executed by fighting squad full . so refusing to assign a protection p t and 9204 was really just a combination of a, of these systems by the, the, the, the nom, up people, and the overhead overall p, both right? a gauge of colonial occupation. so this is why the state is so important, but unfortunately we see a general side as an event and not as a process. and this is what we need to understand what's going in future. the general site that's not happening with an event each have happens over time. and so what qualifies this?
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as a genocide you're saying is the extermination of the people, which is the intent, the intent of extermination. you said she and misty, who? you said the purpose is to exterminate now exterminate means you are going on a genocidal purpose. right? so that's what qualifies it for you did not only say he also carried out that the intent is so, you know, i'm pushing to have this official recognition of the on crowds massacre as a genocide. what impact would that have both for the nama community? uh, domestically and internationally. um the impacted digital test is to question the whole of the whole course load the project. the entire
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portfolio project was a project of a d, humanizing. people that are not white of um that that's, that's what the project was about. and the entire relationship between the global law and the global south is based on the colonial, the idea of people and they are the so you know, some people being, let's say human beings, but only badly solstice are good enough in order to, to blows the wealth of the global know, and now the people of the global cells, a saving, we will not tolerate this anymore. you have but your well, on our subsidy, on our desk, on our right, on our just position. and this needs to change. and so the entire law global,
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so relationship needs to change and you'll need to repay and the way that we see the world and the economy and global politics needs to change because it continue to operate on the principles of colonialism. we are living in a new o'neill system in contemporary politics and, and yeah, the, this is this, this is the challenge here and what not need to be a present. so it's, it's called florida positions is actually a universal car for the nations from the entire human to make. i think what they have done during the colonial past. as you're taking this message forward, what kind of response have you been guessing both of locally from your people, from your government, but also here in germany as well. um,
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the response that we've been getting is the response of denial in after independence in 1919 you know, the political struggles to come to terms with german only and this, and then the stop to, to take root. because during the colonial period, you know, before independence, it was so that you couldn't colonialism before that. it was german colonialism and, and that period did not allow for the voices of the people to be heard. it was only after $9.00 to $19.00. and so in, um, 2006 of the nama is the overhead of, of people join forces to put a, a motion in the numbers, the parliament through the kind of mom. she's a legal, i cool. right? and the, this motion puts in place, you know, mechanisms that we could use to be mind, but i'm fortunate to be the government did not listen to to us. because we said we
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want a try, let's ro, negotiations and the tool governments that said that they are going to talk by naturally from state to state or, and this at some pizza, violation of our right to sleep, um, participation and also to feed painful consent. so yeah, this is where we are, we have, we have put in a motion, a litigation process against our own government because we believe that almost everyone is also buying a thing or what rights we have to listen to the, to the un, special to protest will have confirmed that i what i thought you did being violated and we will continue to look for avenues to continue taking germany also to court. we are not ruling out going to the international court of justice because this is a michel of justice. it is not a matter of development a it's we're not,
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we're not asking for the delinquent age. we ask people justice. okay. same as well . that's all we have time for but we'll have to leave it there for now. so i'm a little bit from the nontraditional leadership association. thank you very much for speaking to us. thank you, sir. and gone, a precious artifacts muted by the british during that colonial rule have been restored to the owners, the shanty people, but only temporarily because the items have been given back on loan. the event marking very tend to place a dementia palace museum in commodities. the scene of the sunset had at kingdom, the thousands of artifacts and now on public display at home, giving a rag glimpse into the history and culture. b, a shanty. yeah, terms include $32.00 gold and silver treasures all stolen during the 19th century.
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and lou ashanti was, comes of pressure is growing on west and museums and institutions to restore african artifacts stolen during the colonial era. king or to full or say to, to the 2nd expressed as the live with the with to the items that came by the soul of the people by chance. the display of this for you to see the, the item that was totally new to drop in 1974. not all of them understand that what we have here still and what is the sort of question. and i believe within the period that they are being displayed yet, you will make that up for everybody to come in and listen to see to yourselves. now the return is the result of a long campaign by the good man government and took many years of negotiation with british institution. so no wonder at spot excitement at home in gonna and i'm really excited that i'm excited because i'm looking for that. and then,
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and his rains that he was able to see, and then brings the, regarding the box to donna, the spirit, to file for this. i personally be the you have to go, i had wanted to see the de, when these items could be brought back a lot. that's it from us for today. but be sure to check out all the other stories on d. w. com, forward slash africa on our social media and we'll leave you with some more pictures of the oil outlook at dementia palace essentials on this town. awesome. i will see you next time. bye for now. the
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