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in caution is really leadership not to get carried away by rage like the west it and the aftermath of 911 and as israel's assault on gaza group. so that pressure on the us government terrain, it's ally and now washington seems to have put its foot down after insisting it would not support an offensive in rafa. israel's biggest weapon supplier is holding back the bombs but finding around the guys and border town as raging on. regardless, leaving the hundreds of thousands sheltering there was nowhere to turn on the call for lincoln, berlin, and this is the day the funeral should launch a major but try getting around without accounting for and protecting the civilians that are in that battle. strange. and the last time they told us to go to our office saying it's safe and there's a, you know, they entered drama,
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the last 4 battalions from us, so that we will destroy that we are currently reviewing some near time. our security assistance shipments in the context of unfolding events. i'm going into the unknown. i don't know what lies ahead. will i find a place to stay? i don't know. also on the day, the w news, films, harassment, and physical violence targeting a green politician and eastern germany, raising the question is finding political violence a job for the police alone? it is we, nation's security was at the top. the piece now have it takes to society or come to the program. it's good to have you with us. the message seems to be if you're going to launch and offensive on raphael, we don't want to be
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a part of it. us defense secretary lloyd austin confirmed today that the white house has paused a large shipment of bombs to israel. other's schedule deliveries are under review. austin attributed the decision to washington's opposition to israel's plans to solve the southern gauze in town on the border with egypt. the austin told the us senate, hearing the bible ministration, was concerned about a major offensive and rough on without a plan to protect the many civilians there. meanwhile, israel continues to bombard the city. the army seize control of the border crossing and says it's conducting a limited operation to kill him off fighters and dismantle the groups. remaining infrastructure is more of what the us defense secretary, have to say. israel should launch a major attack in or off or without accounting for and protecting the civilians that are in the rental space. as we have a assess the situation, we pause once,
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shipment of hi hi, uh, payload, the munitions. uh and uh and again, i think we've also been very clear about the, the steps that we'd like to see, but israel take to, to account for and take care of those civilians before a major combat that takes place. we certainly would like to see a know major combat take place in rafa, but not made a final determination on how to proceed with the uh, with that shipment. a jack of schindler is the senior director of the calendar extremism project. and this is what he told me about the likelihood of success oven is really ground assault on rafa. thank you so much for having me. unfortunately, the sad truth is that with out some kind of mutual pricing in dropbox, it will be impossible for uh, the dismantling or at least the more or less long term removal of how much as an ongoing price on sir, in rough uh, at the moment the leadership in gaza strip off. i'm ask is located now still some
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of the pool. is that still a very active tunnel network that i think the tax i will go across against this very forces including border crossing. so yes, unfortunately, some type of military authoration needs to be conducted in not find the spot between the us and these really government is not on the if it's on the how this mutual operation supposed to be, conduct a pool this year was the one with a pool on record, globally. that's the 11 month for which the temperature has been the room. that's the one most on record for the same uh, old, previous year for which we have data, which it just heard at global temperatures rising higher and higher above the long term average. april was the 11th consecutive month to become the hottest ever recorded. that's according to the use climate monitoring service to experts. it's
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just another sign of the progressing climate breakdown. this, of course, has many people asking how much hotter will get? well, a new survey by the british newspaper. the guardian has revealed a lot of pessimism among climate researchers. 380 of them all from the inner governmental panel on climate change. we're asked how far they anticipate global average temperatures to rise above pre industrial levels. by the year, 2103 quarters of time expect arise of $2.00 degrees or more. that's a full degree above the internationally set target. a 1.5 degree celsius. in fact, only 6 percent of those polled believe that that goal can still be met and i'd like to welcome. now one of the scientists who participated in the survey liza shipper is a professor for development geography at the university of bon good to have you on
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the show. oh, can i ask you what your project site was for the year? 2100. as i said to 3 degree and i said that because if you look at the, the policies the pledges and then the auction that governments are taking now we can see that we're not moving very, very quickly. and basically they're productions that suggest that we're going to hit maybe even $3.00 uh, looking at the kind of policies that we have and that is including policies. so i'm, i'm pessimistic, you know, at what do you make of the survey results overall because not everybody was as pessimistic as your but a lot of people are even more pessimistic. what's your take? yeah, i mean, i guess it's a bit depressing by we're also depressed. i mean to be honest because i of course i
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put in my my responses and then i got to see the results. and i was probably shocked. i mean, i didn't expect that everybody was feeling as pessimistic as i was. so i think you know, it, it's really difficult to work with this subject for right in it all day long and many of us for, for very long time now. and so of course, we see what's there and you know, what the public sees is what gets communicated later. but of course we see everything, even the messy stuff that doesn't have a clear messages. so yeah, i mean we're very close to it. so therefore, i think we, we are not optimistic. yeah. the, what's really interesting is that the survey also note a generational divide among the responses with the younger experts expecting higher temperature rises. why do you think that is? yeah, i was thinking about that as well. and i actually think that has to do may be partly because they have a longer time to live left and therefore, you know, they're thinking about, you know,
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the future for them as well. and that could potentially make them even more pessimistic. but i'm not quite sure what it is, or either maybe it's also that they feel like, you know, the way that we've been doing the science in the past. and i haven't been sufficient. and they just feel we've been less optimistic about kind of the way that we kind of knowledge that we have perhaps. yeah, but we're not basing this on, on feelings our way this is about scientific research that you and your peers are conducting, isn't it? or was this more about the gotten feeling ballpark that you expect or no, but of course it's very difficult to separate the 2 in this case because the questions were about, you know, what do you expect? and we don't, you know, we can look at what the model suggests and we can look at sort of, you know, what we see is happening, for example, with eco systems and how, you know, crow reese for example, are dying off and so on. and so of course that makes us depressed, but it's also,
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i think this, this is a sense that, you know, the science is there and it's really clear. and we're not seeing the action being taken out. and that's part of what, what the survey was about isn't what is the kind of the sense that you feel when you, when you deliver the science and the policy makers don't run with it and should make the kind of changes that you would expect them to make so it is a little bit of a combination of both, you know, what we see the scientific evidence combined with this, this experience of, you know, living as a scientist and kind of hearing our messages fall flat. yeah, you were quoted in the article as saying that your only source of hope is seeing the next generation being so smart and understanding of, you know, all the bits and pieces that play into that, including the policy making. do you think they will get into positions of power soon enough to reverse this trend as well? i mean, i think it's a little bit of a combination of, you know, the kind of action on the ground also, you know,
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protests and so on and getting in and actually communicating with policy makers early. i think that a lot of young people do have more kind of energy and power to go in and maybe kind of, you know, these kinds of statements to influence policy makers in a different way. but uh, yeah, i mean, i think that's a good point. you know, when are they going to be in a decision making position, but still just the fact that i see, you know, how, of course, are people students are depressed, but i think that, you know, they have great ideas. they're innovative and i think that they, they see through a lot of the green washing, uh, blah, blah, that's the politicians, things that we're buying, but the students get this and i'm optimistic in that way. if that's good and not all pessimism. let's look at your research because you look at how climate change affects people, especially the vulnerable. what effect on humans do you anticipate is global heating really does range or in fact exceed your production of 3 degrees or
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yeah, i mean, that's right. another thing too much about that because actually, you know, we're already seeing things popping off this year, right? we're having a huge phase across asia. the kinds of things that we're expecting of, you know, people are going to be facing this tremendous heat and just not knowing where to go, how, what you know, where to turn to the find, shade to the, to find a cool and this, this really is going to have a lot of health impact, but also i think and both physical but also a psychological impact. and i'm also aware of studies that are suggesting that by the end of the century, if things do go in that direction, that we end up with 3 degrees that we're going to be looking at, the sort of pockets of places where people simply can't even live and that, that, that as a 3rd of people are going to be a 3rd of the people around the world, the grange to be in those places. and so that, you know, that suggests that we're also possibly looking at a lot of migration. and we need to think about what are the limits to how much we
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can actually adapt to that kind of a change. because we do have both kind of ego systems have limits, but we also have limits and social assistance. we, you know, we need to have fresh water to drink, we can't survive without it. so if we live in places that don't have that, then we need to move. no wonder your pessimistic has professor eliza schiffer from the university of fine. it was a great speaking to you, none the less. thank you so much for your time. thank you. or the, the bigger selection year in history. but many of those running for office around the globe have a lot more to fear of and just their political opponents. politically motivated violence is on the rise and germany is no exception. last friday, a politician hanging campaign posters was beaten up so badly. he had to be hospitalized, and now berlin's former mayor was attacked and injured at a library, social democrat. francisco a gift fire was head over the head by the sale,
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and wielding a bag containing a solid object. 74 year old man has been arrested. of these recent incidents or fueling fears about the security of politicians and activists here in germany, the latest in the eastern city of dresden was actually caught on camera by the w crow to see the some of the new campaign event. tens, ugly, green politicians set upon by 2 bystanders. threatening our commer team and the queen's number is that most spinster. we've joined yvonne most. she was running for local office in the east and her party. the greens have become a point target of political violence and recent months and this is kind of this, but i think it's especially important in this district where you have a lot of non voters to maybe motivate them again to vote until at least show your
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face and to say we're here, in fact, isn't the of the to move to another area. the nude became tense. a group nearby sound has a bond nazi slogan. for the following is the party then this happened with this rubbish was supposed to be, you know, you're breaking the law. why are you doing this? wrong move law documented the evidence. another group started happening. her and her team pulling a pair of files they decided to retreat back out to see i go mail, you see that the arguments are not founded, but it's something they've picked up somewhere else. additional board and s as all,
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i'm just honestly, i haven't had this one before. actually it's a new one for me. but yeah, we'll keep on fighting but becomes a writer. busy but that i've got saw before that confronted the the, that picture right now, are all the camera off the old. can someone call the police? you don't need that photo. you bloody green a is that much? they are you crazy as the parent imitate? the group on demand that they delete the pictures. witnesses try to reach the police most move forward. i'll do my photo now. that's my. so 1st of all, it took a long time before we got through to them, john holmes, and then they didn't take the master seriously. and then they said that they will take 5 to 10 minutes, even though they were told that threats were made against the group. and just so,
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you know, the police station is a 3 minute walk away from him as it up in the ships. i'm extremely personally disappointed and i think this is something we will have to talk about. at least offices eventually arrived. official say they're investigating the suspect for salt vandalism. i'm still using unconstitutional slogans. vera berg and grew and a is a senior correspondent of time magazine and his tract, while, and threats harassment and attacks, targeting public officials in the us and elsewhere for quite some time. thank you so much for speaking to d, w 0, the report we just ran of a politician being sped on and insulted. does that ring familiar to you? it does, at least here in the united states. i think most people aren't aware of how common it has become for people to jump that line from just being more politically byron in the rhetoric and how they speak. and then actually taking action in the real world. here in the us that become quite common are from the lowest levels of government all the way to the top. so it definitely sounds familiar. who are the
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perpetrators, they're not all outright extreme is are they you wrote a while ago that about one and 3 americans believe violence against the government can sometimes be justified. that is there surprisingly and kind of sharpening the common viewpoint. now, i think it's become much more common since the pandemic when i think with the locked downs and a lot of kind of the things that were happening then people really felt it was okay to take matters into their own hands and not just protests, but really intimidate and harass people, and here in the united states with a 2020 election, it also became much more common to if you are angry about something, instead of doing what you maybe used to do now it was ok to show up to me to show up with a gun and to actually make good on your, on your threats to, you know, again, abuse and or physically assault someone i hear in the united states. it's definitely been on the rise and we're seeing that across the whole globe. you, of course, looked at this for many angles and in many places can you identify common
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denominator spanning regions and states causes triggers. i think one of the things that every expert i've spoken to has said is that, um, a people take their queue from politicians and uh, you know, even look back 10 years ago. it wasn't as common for politicians, whether it's on social media or in their speech. is to use particular words in particular imagery, which is actually quite a violent you know, the need to take things back, you know, uh the need to blow things up. and um, this kind of language people are taking it somewhat. literally. there's always, as you mentioned, there's always people more on the fringes were willing to take action, but we're seeing it just kind of in general. i mean, people calling law makers calling health workers election workers are librarians here in the united states. anyone who works for the government and being very intimidating and harassing them. and you know that that's a pretty common factor i think is violent language really translating to real world action. you have spoken to many people effected by this kind of violence. and one
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of the people you interviewed said something truly shocking. local leadership was becoming a full contact sport. how do they intend to deal with the harassment, the threats and the attacks? you know, it's a year at least the, it's pretty difficult to expect someone, especially no low vocal, lower level job to want to continue doing this. i mean, a lot of them have had to hire private security. they had to, you know, move their kids or their spouse out of their house because you know, their address is posted on line and they're getting threats. and if you are, you know, a local election worker, if you're a state level lawmaker, it might just not be worth it. i mean, on the upper level here, if you're on capitol hill or the white house, you have all these extra protection you a secret service. you have no police who can help you. but for most local level people, what we're actually seeing is just people leading the jobs. i mean, if there's been a really big accidents and the last 4 years here, of people just leaving these are the positions largely because of the threats of
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violence and harassment. we only have about a minute left, but i don't want to leave on that note. where do we go from here? is this just a grim reality? you know, we have to live in oregon to serve as a call to action. i have heard of the kind of more positive side that i think more people at least are very much aware of this and that it's become a cycle where where there is this kind of intimidation of people are much more aware of where to go. and they are getting better distinguishing between a real threat and, you know, and want to take it too. so at least they, and some of that fear isn't there. but you know, i think like, as you mentioned earlier this year is going to be a real live mess test of, of, of how far that can go. as vera version grew and senior correspondent for time magazine, thank you so much for those insights. thank you. if you've ever heard the story of a double rainbow and a new star appearing to harold, the birth of former north korean leader kim jong il on the country's highest
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mountain, chances are that you are familiar with the work of kim king number. he was north korea's long time propaganda chief and is credited with masterminding the cold surrounding the king diamond state. now he has died at the age of 94 leader came junk who not paid his respects at the memorial or came keen alms. bonnie was on view state medias. say he died of old age and multiple oregon. this function become dynasty now and it's 3rd generation has ruled north korea's since it's the establishment in 1948 and we need tons. aiden foster. carter is a north korea expert at leads university in the u. k. great to have you on the show . now kim, keen on basically creating the lens through which the world saw the kim dynasty one more. can you tell us about the cult that he helped build as well? um, in the age of the internet. uh, everybody kind of knows what north korea looks like. we can all see everything,
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and we know that it looks as little peculiar, little unlike how the places that they tongue about starting thousands communism and there was no basically so generation correct from all the key in terms of how you present that have to put it across the be all, both for the people within the country and how we see it that took some organizing . and the man who did it was kim key know who his test died. at the ripe old age of 94. he did it for the original leader came also he didn't for the 1st succession, the we know how difficult succession saw for company in this country. switching types of ships generate these attraction to cable, so sorry, yes. to give a so to 2 minute can you show me a succession can drop me off of the person either. he's a he and this the label. can you have a drinking bodies? and he did the latest succession already over a decade ago, to get them done in the service. he had the whole presentation of the regime as interstate. my presentation is all important when he was the guy who what role does propaganda play domestically in north korea?
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this is a country completely rules by propaganda. what's like, oh, well then you know, trojan oil changed for concerning like a key shape. but really, if any, actually existing state comes close is this one you know, far more than the former soviet union, the former german democratic republic, et cetera. everything is controlled. they all there. is there any one view of anything assumption, no free press, no independent n g o's or anything like that. so the question of shaping the narrative at every level, how the leader is presented. how, for instance, state one concrete example is a while back. how do you get rid of cumulus ohms, embarrassing, a 1st wife when, when there's somebody else on the scene? that kind of thing. i it's, it's probably it's full price advice is a be in charge of that is a very important role as witness kim jong and then his but tired, ever leaving the funeral procession sort of a at the funeral is to fuller right now. very important guy. how important is
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propaganda for the kim dynasties survival though? would they be able to hold onto power with all with, without this this entire p r machine or no, i think you've, that's exactly the question cuz it's a feel for and for us folks in a way, this is a state which i was reading alone in touch with speech by the leader came to hand and somebody has to do it. they can't even make decent school uniforms and the yeah . how, how, how does that to make a school uniform and, and try this rifle the age of a rates, everybody for it. but it's, it's like golf. so how old is ago? they've got to say, oh, you know what? trying really hard, but it's, she's working at american imperialist and the bishop south koreans who were stuffing us to doing it. and to be you do wonder if an hour she was wearing a bit since we knew another home according to states which collapsed. the people were pretty cynical, actually, nobody believed it. for a long time. the most crews about what true believers linux already, but try looking like it because whoever tried the review time, you know,
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but you do wonder if there was a, the largest, as a china used to be multiple or them them trying to as much richard them south for the planet, as i mean how, how stable there's that, that takes us further, i guess. but yeah, the propaganda is the only glue that holds it together. nothing else that i was estimating south that was a foster carter of lease university. thank you so much for all those insights. thank you very much. the interesting questions, and that's our time, but make sure to stay informed. stay engaged and stay in touch. you can follow our team on social media our handled. there is ask you to be news. if it is the latest headlines you're looking, for course always our website, www. dot com for now no, from the entire team on the day. thank you so much for spending parts of your day by the
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