okay, you're up to date. after a short break we ask a senior european lawmaker whether the you can maintain its competitive edge, while still upholding environmental and social values. for me on the team here in berlin, thanks for watching. take care the this shadows of jumping calculus. these costs and video shed lights on the dog is devastating colonial har is infected by germany across and he employed a score farms and destroyed what is the legacy of this wide spread race as depression today? history. we need to talk about here, the stories, shadows of german colonialism,

can the you uphold its environmental and social values without choking off business and trade. my guests bet long us as it can insured. he's chairman of the international trade committee for the parliament. and we spoke just before the parliament voted for a new law that requires larger companies to scrutinize their supply chains for human rights or environmental violations. or begin the interview by asking long ago about his own home government, germany, and how it withheld it's. busy for the measure now, part of the government in berlin says that the new law is unfriendly for business. a really disappointing. com because we haven't drum and the due diligence legislation on to, i guess was a european legs. nation is german legs, nation but improved on the far from me. it makes no sense to abscess, obsession as a counselor. but it's linked to the situation. the coalition government in germany

. so the smallest a potty also coalition is always some elements where they thought they can make a point in domestic policies, icing on the right. but it's not my job to jots about that. but listening to, to the new legislation, it's really an improvement because we are looking not to on the, on a checklist basis. so every company has to fulfill the same obligations be, are looking for over space approach. because it's really different. if you uh, importing lead from canada on a t shirt from bangladesh. and let's look where possible with a file, a sion, of international they must. and that's a international environment to a conventions. all dependents government agreement happens and not have an obligation to everybody. you mentioned the coalition government, it's the,

the sort of business friendly uh, freed democrats were against this. and the coalition. as you said, no, i don't think that the business went to me because there's a coalition of business. people say we want it even cheap on the beach but, but, but, but don't they have a point when they say that it raises more bureaucratic hurdles at a time when most member states and businesses want fewer hurdles and better trade? is this not one more impediment for that? you know, because we have to struggle in falls and of course we have and several other member states, no, no info. so there is a competition. this of bondage in germany. businesses are also complaining about the german law, of course. and secondly of this, german law has to be untrue behalf this checklist approach for $23.00 question for everybody, and then some additional discussion. not risk based approach. ad. yes, we'll see repeating on some little cryptic version,

but you would use so the reporting applications like so. this is of course, a difficult time for europe when we look at the economy, especially germany and it's struggling economy right now. the measures like the supply chain long, do they not put a burden on businesses at a time when they need fewer of those. and it's not just that law, but we spoke earlier today to the indonesian and bassett, or to germany. the u is negotiating a free trade agreements with indonesia right now, and he points to the use deforestation measures anti deforestation, i should say, which attempts to certify for his products from some countries where deforestation has been a problem. indonesia says it's too much of an impediment for them. and then it's blocking that free trade agreement, these kind of social and environmental laws that the you is pursuing. is that not an impediment right now when, when trade more than anything is necessary?

so look, we are all on the whole bill looking for more sustainability and we need to have this, i guess as a result of that as climate agreement to reduce c o 2 emissions worldwide. andrea c i o conventions international standards for labor wides. and we have some environmental conventions from the united nation. so these are this upcoming goods . and now looking how to rates can really benefit in the, the, the implementation offices, international cms. it's not your pin manuals or you p like us, least and all you will be in the vision of, of society. it's a uni of also a perspective for people and the environment and, but since and not only getting the way of that kind of trades into these, i don't have a point. then you have to look how to can, how you can implement ad on discussion was environment minister of was it. but then

this is why looking on the solicitation, how we can, when you chose the situation. what's about g o localization can be use you in uh, satellite pictures. that's how we can certified to products once about disability. we have some certification systems in was it? so how we can work together hand in hand, in to partnership and at the end of this conversation. so it's yes, it's really helping also, my goal is for the bazillion society and perhaps we missed a little bit the, the correct communication and also was in, yeah, i'm quite happy that'd be a megacity. no. was in the comprehensive straight agreement. they agreed to negotiate on every thing that's important as a defense to a 2013. we have steps of the legacy and the last time. now we have to look what's the situation on the ground, how we can implement some of the measures in such

a trade agreement. i'm quite optimistic that this leads to an result. you mentioned brazil, brazil, of course, one of the macros or countries with which the he was trying to finalize this trade agreement. that's also been stalled in part because of concerns over climate issues . in this case the amazon base and no, no, no, that's not true. but that is part of the hesitation to manufacture has been processed. not on the part of a level, perhaps. no, no, look. it's reading the news. that's tweet negotiations. really phase because of the sustainability pots. we have really this costs. we'll see nicholas who countries on the say in this new total cost taking on bought the interest and this ready. and also it was australia now, those agreements fated because of the interest of from us in this case of use it has to be a yeah, it was the lobby in we're joining but advocacy groups pointing at the amazon base and issues that strengthens that protest against many of these agreements is that

not true? what is on the america? so create and it's on all the domestic fall. most of the say i because fonts that nope on anyway. so see top perhaps, but macro. so never. and we have also some similar discussion and some of them in the state. so we have to really focus on the culture of sect on both sides. that's for sure how to improve the living conditions. we move on to the us. is europe ready for new trade tensions in the coming year? so nobody is hoping that trump will become present. and again, of course, via a, a sort of a toolbox sauce of defensive mirrors, likes the under cushion, is cement, which was developed to because of the drums and p, a message if we would establish digital techs in your and he would what to tell us

on your costs on, so you want to use trade and investment as a political investment on the problem you have now and you in some hoops to be ready to defend our nomic interest. so we have a tool box ready, and we are also not afraid to go to w to our end to us. certainly, of course we are trying to calm down little bit the situation. we have a trade in technology calling soon to establish some i'm working with notions and so on. but there's largely been disappointment that an agreement wasn't hashed out with steel for example, hasn't that been something of a failure? you know. yeah. but you have to recognize it's a suited here. some of the united states has changed. they are really focus not on domestic issues, and they are not so much dependent on, i'm an expert, as your opinion is. so that's a fact that's we have to, it's like it's not, it's not accept but too much. and i'm quite sure that they,

but it's not sticks to the rules of w 2 in all cases. so on to that for, we have to use our own defense instruments, but nevertheless, united states is still biggest rating, isn't likely the traits engines are like, are going to rise even if president biden is re elected, given that europe is sending more of its exports, especially germany to the us, which has a strong economy, we talked about china, is their concerns, but it has over capacity. is this really just a trump thing, or is it possible that with consumption, being so low here on the continent being so low in china that the us, regardless of who's leading is going to look and say, this isn't in our favor. if so much trade is coming from these countries, i'm not sure that this is true about as the actual policy is in going into sort of action. this is a really and change of development to yeah, it's really an openness of the us economy,

of the god on some util was founded on somebody us a know it's going back to the state, the economy, and really a, to a protective measures in this inflation reduction act was created by the democrats and buying of cause and having this huge range of local content which leads to the investment in your investment in the united states. that's not really for. yeah. and also not deny the subject to roads, but this is a policy of course, biden is more that's a positive and we can really agree also on spent and some send us and some future orientation issues. like if it's an emergence and risk management of that spot, there is a new direction of economic policy in the united states. that's for sure. we have to live. oh is this, i guess it's, and the rest of us possibly room for corporation and some of those not trust we

have different interests globally funds. united states. do you see over capacity from china as a problem? it's being reported as such and many places. what is the concern this has long been a claim that china has put too much on the markets. what exactly is the problem? the problem is if this a campus cd is fine ons by illegal subsidies or is over capacity is put on the market below production costs. so subsidies are done pick and then we have all instruments and we are using that to on to about 80 percent of our on to subsidies on deducting cases are directed against which are coming from china. also, chinese defects on the rear. we have globally a bit of publicity in china, or look to the so will up in those will be established certainly is a garage so on the subsidies tablets. but of course china is big and to

have the advantages of economic golf scale. and so we have to deal with this, you want to have production really pop up climate new to the rate on that for we establish also to see them to make clear that in future. also the import products have to be priced on the c u 2 content, and this would be also a limit a little bit. so steve's inputs coming from china until the use of our capacity is this. um, let's say a phrase of overall capacity is a little bit complicated because you have also in your overall capacity and competence without going to the us, which expects up to $200.00 a so that it has to be for. yeah, that's a really important issue. that's the level playing field has to be counted last question. are you optimistic or pessimistic? when you look at the coming years and trade free trade, european trade,

it's challenging. we have to deal this uh, fragmentation of globalization. that's for sure. and therefore, we need some defensive measures and we need a whole a net of rage agreements in to partnership with. so these are the live of the possible. all right, how long a thank you so much. thanks a lot to the co africa. how do you get young people thinking about waste and public spaces? again, taps where they practical. i have quest to clean up the environment in a way that is a logical for them. grab the young people's attention. check on environmental awareness. check. this is the mission of green quest for to next on d. w. get ready for an exciting out until you little surprised. i am shopping and

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