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the the, this is the deputy news line from the, the international criminal court top prosecutors, a calls for the rest of his ride, the prime minister benjamin netanyahu, and 3 hamas leaders. he says mister netanyahu and his defense minister, bad responsibility for the crimes and crimes against humanity in the gaza strip. also 6, the rest of how much the officials on similar charges in connection with the october 7th and the tenant attack on page right. also on the program runs president scale, then i had a company to crash abraham, right? you say his foreign minister on other top officials all die in the incidents in the remote regions of the country around supreme leader orders 5 days of morning
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on flooding. there is an excuse, presidential time would have ended today headed russian. i'm not going states invasion ukrainians tell dw how they feel about these continued leadership in full time. the control guy, welcome to the program. we start with breaking news from the international criminal court concerning the israel thomas conflict. then i see says chief prosecutor, that has announced that he believes that a reasonable grounds to believe both is riley. i'm thomas lee, this bad responsibility a back criminal responsibility for war crimes. and crimes against humanity. prosecutors, accounting, tom says he's there for seeking a rest warrant for his rating. prime minister benjamin netanyahu, defense minister, you're off, go on, and 3, how mass leaders. i'm asked carried out,
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be october 7th attacks in israel, and is designated on a terrorist organization by many countries. so here is the international criminal courts. chief prosecute to kind of con, it is very like low states has the right to defend its population. it has every right to ensure the return of hostages that have been criminally and carelessly taken. those rights, however, do not absolve these rail, always obligations to comply with international humanitarian law. intentionally causing death, starvation, injury and suffering to the civilian population, including so very many women and children of criminal means to achieve military and political goals. that's what we have, that you have reasonable grounds to believe. the 3 senior leaders of how a mass you know? yes and why i'm at dice and issue
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a new year back criminal responsibility for the following international crimes. committed on the territory of israel and the state of palestine from at least the 7th of october. 2023. extermination as a crime against humanity. murder. as a crime against humanity, as will crime the taking of hostages as a little crime rate and other acts of sexual violence, joining captivity as crimes against humanity does what crimes, torture jordan captivity is a crime against humanity and is a little crime. as international criminal court state prosecutors academy in con, let's get more for my correspondence. that abraham in jerusalem and jack power in brussels. welcome both this out with you. it jack. tell us more about what
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b i c. c. prostate has been say as well. he's laid on this clear sets of accusations against the 5 people that are involved in this cool haze. cool for arrest warrants, which would not go to the pre trial chamber of the international criminal court. and judges will decide whether they will be upheld. clearly the crimes that he is laid on both sides related to obviously, to specifically different situations off some of the hosses i most significant crimes against humanity and more crimes that can can be checked, can be tried at the international criminal court, including extermination salvation of a population mode or rape is a crime against humanity. these are really, really significant allegations. now, what's interesting is investigations of this uh, this type ordinarily. what would 1st happen is that those people would be summoned to the international criminal court in the hague. they would then be expected to
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turn off of that own free will. we've seen that happen in other cases, but in this is just as i think, probably because what we see is that the benjamin netanyahu, the is very the prime minister. and the defense minister gala and they both publicly said that they would not attend such a hearing, and that's why the prosecutor has come, i've 1st time and said that he wants the rest warren's to be approved by the pre trial chain. but it's also really interesting who was in that video when he was making this a nice and then to the left of him as a woman. cool. brenda hollis, who is one of the most respectable crimes prosecutors in the world, arguably might herself of being the prosecutor of the international criminal court if she wasn't from the united states, which is not a member of the i c. c. she was involved in this an investigation which gives it weight internationally, but also in the legal space in the united states as well. her participation is
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significant and the choice that car him call and made to have her stood the flanking him. while he made the a nice and that is a optics that is undeniable time condo ordinarily makes, these are nice most stood on video on his own. ok. abraham in jerusalem. what reactions are you seeing that? what were the reactions that we're seeing is uh, procuring israel, a wholesale rejection of what the icy prosecutor set today. it's not surprising. we've heard from these really opposition leader year le peed rejecting the prosecutor statement and saying that there's really no comparison between our mazda and the leaders of israel. now here le pete is actually one of those staunchest harshest critics of the prime minister and the defense minister and is now in the past couple of weeks been a heart, a harsh voice and the critics of the operation and russell for example. but when it
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comes to this issue of is really leaders potentially receiving arrest warrants in the icy st. even the opposition and then falls in line. we've also heard from these really president is a crude talk. he's of course, the head of state and is often seen as a, as, as the voice of the spirit of the nation, if you will. and he is already put out a statement condemning this, this decision by the icbc prosecutor and saying, i'm paraphrasing, but this signals a collapse in the international judicial order. and we haven't heard from the prime minister in the defense minister yet, but i don't think that will be hearing from any is really liter at this point, who would welcome this, this decision. but the reactions are still rolling in. okay. all right, so this announcement from the i c, c's prosecution, not from the code itself. does it have potential consequences, a full mister netanyahu warranty for his government?
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or not in the immediate aftermath of this announcement from the prosecutor. again, this is the, this is the prosecutor seeking and the restaurants will be arrest warrant is not there yet. it's unlikely to cause anything like the, the prime minister stepping down or i don't think is very unlikely to have him change course in the way that he is a chosen with his cabinet, the war cabinet to conduct this. whereas he has already for the spoken out against any potential action from the icbc prosecutor previously. but if there were to be an arrest warrant, this could severely limit the countries that he could travel to, to avoid actually getting arrested countries that are members of the i see, see of course have an obligation to, to assist the court in arrests. if someone who is being sought with has an arrest warrant on their name is india territory, but that's still too early. we're still not at that stage yet where this could
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really limit the movement of these really prime minister. ok. so jeff patrick, the prosecutor has asked for this uh arrest warrant. what happens now, as well now as a trial of a pre trial chamber of judges will decide whether to uphold them. it's important to say, ordinarily when the prosecutor does issue these applications for rest flores, normally they are approved and that's because the burden of proof that he has to supply to the team that is beyond reasonable, grimes to believe that the people were involved. so doesn't, is it legal times that's quite a low burden of proof. he just needs to have enough of an investigation to connect those people to some of the crimes to prove that they were potentially involved. so the quote would ordinarily approve them, and that's when once those arrest forms come in as a was saying, then there's the rest of the ones that were approved. and because the international common criminal court doesn't have its own police force, it relies on member state. so if,
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if any of the people that have those arrest warrants against them that would have those arrest warrants against them than the other countries. if they were to ever travel to them, would be respected, would be obligated to arrest and transfer them to the hague. what's significant in this is that the icpc is meant to be a course of lost lost as a result. so essentially when their country is unwilling or unable to prosecute for crimes against humanity will crimes in genocide, etc. and it tries to operate. and in this independence fit based on the evidence and the investigations that it conducts, but inherently, when to prosecute to put sides of an application for an arrest. so i'm like this. they are fully aware of the political implications that it will have. and they will be huge in this instance, especially from the israeli side, not a member of the international criminal court. now we don't know how quickly the trial chamber, the pre trial chamber will approve these in some instances because that button of proof is quite low. it can be a matter of days,
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sometimes it can take weeks even months, and that's what we will be watching for 9. okay, thanks a lot. jack patrick and brussels abraham in jerusalem. thank you both. let's take a look at some more news making headlines around the world will stop in the u. k, but the high cost is rule. that wiki leagues found the julian assault con, appeal against expedition to the united states. mr. sandra is facing espionage charges. that bus has been fighting an extradition order from prison for 3 years as low as argue that he may not be able to rely on his rights to free speech, it facing the child in the us. so i think this constitutional court has ruled that form of president jacob zoom cannot run for parliament, and next week election is been disqualified because he was sentenced to 15 months in prison in 2021. finding to appear as a corruption inquiry around where president abraham rises,
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been killed and i hadn't talked to crush around states. television says that mr. ray say he's the foreign minister and others died in the remote region near the board with as a body shop country. supreme leader i or tele, i'll a come and i was appointed on entering president and was told elections within the next to 50 days is also ordered. 5 days of national morning search teams scale at the for the mountains and northwest and run for hours. devon, my hon eventually locating the crashed helicopter and finding no sign of survive as well. yeah. because so we've got a frisco is pulled bodies from the wreckage law the helicopter wing down the runs border with as
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a by john with president crazy. and his foreign minister had been attending a damn opening sooner. and the more of advocacy must be the more cubical site, including a run state tv can send, can use of the dates, home, and all you guys are sending shock waves across around. ready with lead is across the world offering their condolences and video and i thought the tiles. first of all, i'd like to extend my condolences to the brother rearranging and people on the death of the president of the republic, the minister of foreign affairs and their company. and delegation following the accident. and that's locked out. we ask god almighty to forgive them to raise the became president and 2021 man was a deeply conservative and hard line leader. he of a saw a brutal crack down on a rainy and protesters. in recent years, rosie was seen as
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a potential success sent to the supreme leader. i a told her from a name and she is his strategy of supporting proxy forces across the middle east. i a total of how many has declared 5 days of public morning and said the vice president mohammed must bear, would act as president knew elections must be held within 50 days. ron's cabinet has held an emergency meeting, assuming they would be no problem with the management of the country, and vowing to follow right. in 2009 mazda of a harvey spend more than a 100 days in iranian prison, where he was tortured and threatened to the execution. i'll be writing and canadian to join this phone, make an editor of iran, y dot com joins us now from london. good to have you about with us. how big
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a loss to see is abraham gracie's, that sudden death a going to be for around the leadership. so they run a president is like a prime minister in an absolute monarchy. so as such, he does not have that much power, but uh the president is in charge of carry got certain laws. he has some sway with, with some parts of the government. he had some effect, the lawmakers in relationship with the part of mad at all. so he either can be totally a 100 percent of the service of the supreme leader of iran who has absolute authority, or he chance somehow advise the supreme leader to do certain things. right. see was 100 percent at the service of the iranian supreme either. but in the past 3 years,
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when he was president, he proved to be very inefficient in apples uh, as a manager. and also he was horrible as a public speaker. so i would say that there is a sigh of relief, may be in certain quarters and you're wrong because they have gotten rid of a very bad president. and whoever comes to the whole concept because of presidents, anyone might be most probably be a better manager. and a better public speaker then race it because that's, that's a very difficult thing to do. okay, so from, from, from what you said, it sounds like not much we'll change. we faced at a round of cost involved in iraq, $11.00 on e. m on and of course, backing home us in gaza so that all of that doesn't change we presume to regardless of who is the president. it is the supreme leader who assigns the
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minister of foreign affairs minister of the interior and head of the revolutionary guards. and many other officials in one. so uh, the death of the president is not going to change that. your one? yeah. domestic policy or foreign policy. in certain cases the president is more kind of back pay like we saw beef, man with that. my thing is, i think 2005, we denied the whole cause. we got anyone ordering him to do that. or we saw has been a real money in 2013 who was a more pragmatic, more conciliatory person in terms of his relationship. the vision should be the wall, but the revolutionary guards and the supreme either or actually the other way around the supreme either. and the revolutionary guards are in charge of your wrong domestic policy, foreign policy, and also to the military. and an on domestic policy. i understand you yourself have suffered as
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a result of iranian domestic policy. not all so we presume does not change. it's not going to change that much. but as i mentioned, the prince, the track advised the supreme neither into taking starts and policies. sometimes the president is successful, sometimes the president is not. but also we have to understand that the supreme either of your one is 8 to 5 years old. and he's more interested in his legacy, which he sees the survival of the islamic republic side of his legitimacy, which would be serving the people of your rot. so the next president will have that in mind and will be trying to count out to the supreme leader as much as possible and be totally at the service of the supreme either. otherwise, there would be a very confrontational period between the supreme leader and the people around him,
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as well as the revolutionary guard, and the president and the cabinets as a walk into sort of that mazda on bahati from iran. why i don't com. thank you. now do you cry on the bottom is that unexcused time in office would be ending at today if russia had not invited elections had been suspended while martial laws enforce. but russia has been trying to undermine popular support for the ukrainian president. i running a social media campaign for fresh elections. the outbreak of war february 2022. follow to me as a landscape, a former comedian with no previous political experience before becoming president, thrust into the role of war time later go a nation and shock warmed quickly to his leadership during the way my dear ukrainians. i am again talking to you just like i promised i will provide you with updated and verified information every hour. his approval ratings shot up to 90
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percent far above its pre war peak 2 years on however, many here are set up. a year ago, there were hopes for a counter offensive that would drive russia out a few crane. but now there's no end to the war. insight. tens of thousands of soldiers have died and the front line barely moved until recent russian advances. the government has passed an unpopular conscription law to get more recruits. all that has cost the government credibility, so excuse, approval, rating slipped to about 69 percent. and the latest reputable poll from february of this year signed significantly higher the leaders in the us, france, and germany, but a worrying sign for the government. no elections can legally happen until martial law ends. but russia has allegedly seized on the fact that so lensky is term would be over this month to mount a social media campaign. like with the social media means. this one says
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traitor zalinski and po cinco in jail. we demand elections. and this 190 percent of people are against you running for a 2nd term. so lansky is portrayed is being confused, asking who is against him. things are not necessarily so blake for the landscape though. a recent poll, cited by bbc's ukraine service, found 70 percent of ukrainians don't want elections while the war is going on. despite russian propaganda efforts. think of something the dw spoke to people in the capital key of about it and found mixed feelings to 3 in the evening. we have the enemy on our doorstep. holding elections is going to cause division. that's a little bit of my loop, but it says there's this. me in the them, i don't want elections right now because of the war. i'm happy with our president and don't have anything to criticize him for right now and most of us, it's just not the right time for election. and the ones that have said that she is
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a veteran you out the i believe it's wrong to forbid the people to have their say, even during war time. and there's so many people fighting in the front lines that just wouldn't be possible physically. the physician had the hosting, we have elections that will cost a lot of money money that we don't have for drones and ammunition. so far, there's been no push from ordinary ukrainians or official pressure from ukraine's allies, or even the political opposition to hold a new vote. so the landscape seems secure and his job for now. but that might change without signs of tangible progress and a war that might drag on for years to come. well you've honey a craft you okay, is a member of the training parliament for president. so that's the case that 7 of the people posit, welcome to dw. so what is the reasoning behind not holding any elections? now that the present is the last gets 5 year term has ended to well,
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of course the main reason is the legal reason because under the legislation marshall uh no reactions can be holt and uh right now we have marshall and the whole territories or, uh, ukraine is not just because uh we have more than 1000 mile kilometers long. uh, the front lines, if i to mine actually uh, but also uh the constance, new side of the tech, on the whole, attach, worry or 2 grand but also the millions of people who are brought and uh that the organization of this process even in brewing is possible due to the, uh, these huge uh, numbers. so uh, all of it comes uh, also to the constitutional constitution that i took over $108.00. clearly states that the president compressed and is acting up
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before you know, the integration of the next press dental. it's the same one is selective costs. and so basically it shows that it, it can be, you know, a long until the elections until the end of marshall i'm, i'm, yes, it is the retention of marshall low backed by the whole of parliament, all the m p 's who believe it, i'm a democracy trumps an invasion. so we have a consensus among the political parties and actually the woods go potters that's on the bottom and sign a document saying that move onto right saying that's no elections. i know it can be organized before the end of the full scale war. uh and it concerns no, just the best and, but also part directions. uh, it would be 5 years. obama meant um term in these august the 2024.
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so it, is it consensus and so uh you, where we show to these campaigns that's full set. this information contains coming from russia. and even if they are in, in ukraine language, it's clearly that this information from russia and the 8 is very clear. they, a russians, $12.00 and $2.00 mind the unity, you know, to break. there was the list and they couldn't do it in 2022. now they using base trying to show that there are some tensions involved, the ukrainians, but craniums in the social um post say that the elections cannot be organized and should not be organized to in the was simple. although action should be organized after the end of the war. hike the joining us, your training and lawmaker, you've had a cough joke. thank. thank you. is
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reminder about top stories, asset base. as the international criminal courts, chief prosecutor says that reasonable grounds to believe it is right. the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, the defense minister, you, i've gone to bed criminal responsibility. so good crimes of crimes against humanity . prosecutions that for seeking a rest ones for both man is also applied for loans for 3. how much leaves us with time to the october 7th? turbotax and a rounds president abraham came, i've raised a has been killed and a helicopter crash country. supreme leader has declared 5 days of morning president may, so he's foreign minister and others died in the remote region near the pool that we've as a body shop on their way back from the launch of a hydro electric project and set you up to date on level, well here's the top of the, our next on dw assigned show tomorrow. today looking at the language of low cost of
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