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the, the, this is the, the, the news line from the, the international criminal quote's top prosecutor zip codes for the rest of your train, the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, and 3 hamas leaders. kind of kind of curious as mister nelson yahoo and his defense minister of bab and responsibility for your crimes and crimes against humanity in the gaza strip. they also 6 the rest of hamas officials on similar charges in connection with the october 7th tenant attack on israel. also on the program that runs president of charles and i have a comes across abraham, right. so his foreign minister on other top officials all died in the incident in a remote region of the country around supreme being the oldest,
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5 days of morning. and it's on him is the landscape presidential term was inventive today and russian and not the last it's invasion ukrainians. tell dw how they feel about these continued leadership and all the time the i'm feel welcome to the program. the chief prosecutors of the international criminal court has claimed that reasonable grounds to believe that the leaders of israel and from us bank criminal responsibility for war crimes and crimes against humanity prosecute and kind of concept. he's that for seeking an icpc arrest warrant for his right. the prime minister benjamin netanyahu defends minutes that you off go on and 3, i must leave a mass counter that you have to have a 7 attacks in israel. and he's designated a terrorist organization by many countries. here as i say,
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say chief prosecute account im com it is very like low states has the right to defend its population. it has every right to show the return of hostages that have been criminally unconsciously taken. those rights, however, do not absolve these rail, always obligations to comply with international humanitarian law. intentionally causing death, starvation, injury and suffering to the civilian population, including so very many women and children of criminal means to achieve military and political goals. that's what we are, that you have reasonable grounds to believe that 3 senior leaders off have mass now, yes. and while i'm at dice and ishmael honey, a back criminal responsibility for the following international crimes
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committed on the territory of israel and the state of palestine from at least the 7th of october 2023, extermination as a crime against humanity. murder as a crime against humanity as will crime the taking of hostages as a little crime rate. the acts of sexual violence. jordan captivity, as crimes against humanity. does what crimes? torture jordan captivity is a crime against humanity and is a little crime. hello there. i suppose my correspondence abraham in jerusalem and jack power in brussels. i began by asking jack to tell me more about the chief, prosecute his obligations a while he's laid on this clear set of accusations against the 5 people that
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are involved in this school. he's cool for a rest florence, which will not go to the pre trial chamber of the international criminal court. and judges will decide whether they will be upheld. katie, the crimes that he is laid on both sides related to obviously, to specifically different situations off some of the hosses. most significant crimes against humanity and more crimes that can can be chatted, can be tried at the international criminal court, including extermination, starvation of a population mode or rape is a crime against humanity. these are really, really significant obligations. now, what's interesting is investigations of this uh, this type ordinarily. what would 1st happened is that those people would be summons to the international criminal court in the hague. they would then be expected to turn off of that own free will. we've seen that happen in other cases, but in this is just as i think, probably because what we see is that the benjamin netanyahu, the is ready prime minister and the defense minister
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a gallon. they both publicly said that they would not attend such a hearing. and that's why the prosecutor has come a 1st time and said that he wants the rest warren's to be approved by the pre trial chain. but it's also really interesting who was in that video when he was making this a nice minutes. the left of him is a woman who brenda hollis, who is one of the most respectable crimes prosecutors in the world, arguably might herself of being the prosecutor of the international criminal court . if she wasn't from the united states, which is not a member of the i c, c, she was involved in this, an investigation which gives it weight internationally, but also in the legal space in the united states as well. her participation is significant and the choice that cover him call and made to have her stood the flanking him. while he made the announcement that is a optics that is undeniable time condo ordinarily makes. these are nice. most stood
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on video on his own. ok. abraham in jerusalem. what reactions are you seeing that? what were the reactions that we're seeing is uh procure and israel, a wholesale rejection of what the icy prosecutor set today. it's not surprising. we've heard from these really opposition leader year le peed, rejecting the prosecutor statements and saying that there's really no comparison between our mazda and the leaders of israel. now here le pete is actually one of those staunchest harshest critics of the prime minister and the defense minister and is now in the past couple of weeks been a heart, a harsh voice and the critic of the operation and russell for example. but when it comes to this issue of is really leaders potentially receiving arrest warrants in the icy st. even the opposition and then falls in line. we've also heard from these
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really president is a crew talk. he's of course, the head of state and is often seen as a, as, as the voice of the spirit of the nation, if you will. and he is already put out a statement condemning this decision by the i c c prosecutor and saying i'm paraphrasing, but this signals a collapse in the international judicial order. and we haven't heard from the prime minister in the defense minister yet. but i don't think that we'll be hearing from any is really leader at this point, who would welcome this, this decision. but the reactions are still rolling in. okay. and so this announcement from the i c, c's prosecution off in the course itself. does it have potential consequences, a full mister netanyahu warranty for his government? up not in the immediate aftermath of this announcement from the prosecutor. again, this is the, this is the prosecutor seeking an arrest. points with your arrest warrant is not
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there yet. it's unlikely to cause anything like the, the prime minister stepping down or i don't think it's very unlikely to have him change course in the way that he is a chosen with his cabinet, the war cabinet to conduct this. whereas he has already for the spoken out against any potential action from the icbc prosecutor a previous week. but if there were to be an arrest warrant, this could severely limit the countries, but he could travel to, to avoid actually getting arrested countries that are members of the i see, see of course have an obligation to, to assist the court in arrests. if someone who is being sought with has an arrest warrant under name is in the territory, but that's still too early. we're still not at that stage yet where this could really limit the movement of these really prime minister. okay, so jess products, the prosecutor has asked for this uh, arrest warrant. what happens now, as well?
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now as a trial of a free trial chamber of judges will decide whether to uphold them. it's important to say, ordinarily when the prosecutor does issue these applications for rest flores, normally they are approved and that's because the burden of proof that he has to supply to the team that is beyond reasonable, grimes to believe that the people were involved. so doesn't, is it legal times that's quite a no burden of proof. he just needs to have enough of an investigation to connect those people to some of the crimes to prove that they were potentially involved. so the quote would ordinarily approve them, and that's when once those arrests ones come in is a it was saying, then there's the rest of the ones that were approved. and because the international, clement criminal court doesn't have its own police force, it relies on member state. so if, if any of the people that have those arrest forms against them, that would have those arrest warrants against them. then the other countries, if they were to ever travel to them would be respect, would be obligated to arrest and transfer them to the hague. what's significant in
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this is that the icpc is meant to be a course of last last a result. so essentially when their country is unwilling or unable to prosecute for crimes against humanity will crimes in genocide, etc. and it tries to operate and in this independence fit, based on the evidence and the investigations that it conducts, but inherently, when to prosecute, to put sides of an application for an arrest where i'm like this. they are fully aware of the political implications that it will have and they will be huge in this instance, especially from the israeli side, not a member of the international criminal court. now we don't know how quickly the trial chamber, the pre trial chamber will approve these in some instances, because that button of proof is quite low. it can be a matter of days. sometimes it can take weeks even months, and that's what we will be watching for 9. okay, thanks for that. jack power in brussels, abraham in jerusalem. thank you both. so is
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a quick look at some of the stories making headlines around the world, the most thoughts and the u. k. we have high courses rule, but we can't expand that julian assigned con appeal against expedition to the united states. mr. sanchez, facing espionage charges babbitts has been fighting the extradition order from prison for 3 years. is lawyers argue that that he may not be able to rely on his right to free speech. if facing trial in the us. i was new president at lightning tap has been sworn in even gone. he's to like, holding on china to end ministry and political threats. if he's an organization speech, he prizes the time when he's people for defending democracy and said there would be no concessions. i'm afraid i shouldn't using as a separate as well. clayton, taiwan as its own territory. south africa's constitutional courses rule, the full, the president jacobs. numa cannot run for parliament in next week's election. he's
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been disqualified because he was sentenced to 15 months in prison in 2021. fighting to appear at the corruption, inquiring the rounds president abraham rising, has been killed in how he comped to crush their own state. tv says president rice in his foreign minister and others died in the remote region near the border with as a body shop around supreme leader. i atalla ali coming i a has appointed an entry and present and was told the elections within the next 60 days is also ordered. 5 days of natural morning search teams scale at the for the mountains and northwest in a run for hours or the devon honda eventually locating the crashed helicopter and finding no sign of survivors. forget because so we've got to risk is pulled bodies from the wreckage.
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the lot the helicopter to wind down the runs border with as a by john with president crazy and his foreign minister had been attending a damn opening center and the advocacy must be the more cubical site, including iran, state tv can send, can use of the dates, home it all you guys are sending shock waves across around with lead is across the world offering their condolences and video and i thought them to, to us, 1st of all, i'd like to extend my condolences to the brotherly rainy and people on the death of the president of the republic, the minister of foreign affairs, and their accompanying delegation following the accident and locked out the we ask, god almighty to forgive them. right, easy became president in 2021 and was
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a deeply conservative. and hotline leader, a fee of a sort, a brutal crack down on a rainy and pros. eustace in recent years, crazy was seen as a potential $0.60 to the supreme leader, i a toner from amy. and she is his strategy of supporting proxy forces across the middle east. i a total of how many has declared 5 days of public morning and said the vice president mohammed must, there would act as president, new elections must be held within 50 days. ron's cabinet has held an emergency meeting, assuming they would be no problem with the management of the country and vowing to follow re easy. so imagine how bahati is in writing in canadian journal invest filmmaker and editor of iran. y dot com. i asked him how big on last,
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abraham rise, the staff is for iran's leadership. so the running and president is like a prime minister in an absolute monarchy. so as such, he does not have that much power, but uh the president is in charge of charity got certain laws he had some sway with, with some parts of the government. he had some effect, the lawmakers in relationship with the part of mad at all. so he either can be totally 100 percent of the service of the supreme leader robbie ross who has absolute authority, or he can somehow advise the supreme leader to do certain things. right. see was 100 percent at the service of the iranian supreme either. but in the past 3 years, when he was president, he proves to be very inefficient in apples as
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a manager. and also he was horrible as a public speaker. so i would say that there is a sigh of relief, may be in certain quarters and you're wrong because they have gotten rid of a very bad president. and whoever comes to the whole concept because of presidents, anyone might be most probably be a better manager. and a better public speaker then raise it because best of the very difficult thing to do. okay, so from, from, from what you said, it sounds like not much will change with face that iran, of course, involved in iraq, 11 on e. m on and of course, backing home us in gaza so that all of that doesn't change, we presume. regardless of who is the president, it is the supreme leader who assigns the minister of foreign affairs minister of the interior head of the revolutionary guards. and many other officials came to
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anyone. so uh, the depths of the president is not going to change the iran in domestic policy or foreign policy. in certain cases, the president is more kind of back pay like we saw beef, man with that. my thing is in 2005, we denied the whole cause. we got anyone ordering him to do that. or we saw a husband, a real money in 2013, who was a more frank match, a more conciliatory person in terms of his relationship relationship with the well . but the revolutionary guards and the supreme either or x is the other way around . the supreme either and the revolutionary guards are in charge of iran, domestic policy, foreign policy, and also to the military. and on domestic policy. i understand you yourself of stuff a as a result of a range of domestic policy that also we presume does not change,
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or it's not going to change that much. but as i mentioned, the presence the truck advised the supreme neither into taking starts and policies. sometimes the president is successful, sometimes the president is not. but also we have to understand that the supreme either of your one is 8 to 5 years old. and he's more interested in his legacy, which he sees the survival of the islamic republic side of his legitimacy, which wouldn't be serving the people of your rights. so the next president will have that in mind, and they'll be trying to count out to the supreme leader as much as possible and be totally at the service of the supreme either. otherwise, there would be a very confrontational period between the supreme bidder and the people around him,
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as well as the revolutionary guard and the president and the cabinets as a walk in a sort of that mazda on bahati from iran, y dot com. thank you. the ukraine, unplugged them is the lens keys, turn in office would be ending now as rush. i haven't invited elections have been suspended while marshal laws enforce, but russia has been trying to undermine popular support for the training and presidents are running a social media campaign, a full, a fresh elections of the outbreak of war february 2022. follow to me is a landscape, a former comedian with no previous political experience before becoming president, thrust into the role of war time later. a nation in shock warmed quickly to his leadership during the way, my dear ukrainians. i am again talking to you just like i promised i will provide you with updated and verified information every hour. his approval ratings shot up
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to 90 percent far above its pre war peak 2 years on however many here are set up. a year ago, there were hopes for a counter offensive that would drive russia out if you crane. but now there's no end to the war. insight. tens of thousands of soldiers have died and the front line barely moved until recent russian advances. the government has passed an unpopular conscription law to get more recruits. all that has cost the government credibility, so excuse, approval, rating slipped to about 69 percent. and the latest reputable poll from february of this year signed significantly higher the leaders in the us, france, and germany, but a worrying sign for the government. no elections can legally happen until martial law ends. but russia has allegedly seized on the fact that so lensky is term would be over this month to mount a social media campaign. like with the social media means. this one says,
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trader zalinski and pro cinco in jail. we demand elections. and this 190 percent of people are against you running for a 2nd term. so landscapes per trait is being confused. asking who is against them. things are not necessarily so blake for the landscape though. a recent poll, cited by bbc's ukraine service, found 70 percent of ukrainians don't want elections while the war is going on. despite russian propaganda efforts saying something, the dw spoke to people in the capital key of about it, and found mixed feelings to 3 in the evening. we have the enemy on our doorstep. holding elections is going to cause division. that's a little bit of my liberal. it says there's this really in the them. i don't want elections right now because of the war. i'm happy with our president and don't have anything to criticize him for right now and those of us, it's just not the right time for election. and the ones that have said that she is a veteran you off the i believe it's wrong to forbid the people to have their say,
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even during war time problems. and there's so many people fighting in the front lines that just wouldn't be possible physically because they have to have a system. we have elections that will cost a lot of money. money that we don't have for drones and ammunition. so far, there's been no push from ordinary ukrainians or official pressure from ukraine's allies, or even the political opposition to hold a new vote. so the landscape seems secure and his job for now. but that might change without signs of tangible progress and a war that might drag on for years to come. let's look at this. we have a kid, a real big who is a member of the training in parliament and leader of the opposition hall us policy a welcome back to the w. and i was speaking to your training in the lawmaker from presence that excuse potty, louder today. and she told me there was consensus amongst the political posit backing marshal more at the moments in baffled precluding elections. i thought it
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might be useful to just check watts with an opposition little makeup like yourself, a little sales. thank you so much for having me. well, it is indeed true. we have a consensus to put all the political emissions aside and concentrate on one of the most important goal for our country, dwindle war. and this is what we have been doing since the day one of the full scale invasion. and i see we've been really successful in remaining united through all political forces in debris because there is something bigger than us, bigger than our political age, to keep the country united and to ensure that we physically survive as when in this, in the war that is really historic one that isn't democracy bigger than all of bots that the britain on the united states both held at elections during the 2nd world war. or i agree with you that
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democracy is the most important. and this is why why we are as a democratic country, we are being to that major law. that is another constitution, which is a democratic institution and is clearly says, no elections during the work time and feel even if we wanted to do it. i honestly can't imagine how we would do the elections during the worst time. first and foremost, given that we have a major amount of people fighting at the front and they think is the most important . and the most fear to allow them to exercise on the a democrat, to try not only to elect but also to be elected. and until we have no way of doing it off, allowing them to exercise this, right? that would not be even a talk about a democrat to collections on how therefore, do you count to russian planes that president landscape lacks democratic legitimacy
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given that that has been no election in your country for 5 years. well, 1st of all, we know that this is a part of the russian propaganda to attack a where unity and ability to operate in the state. and 2nd, it's very easy for me because i voted for the marshal more of the turn day on the full scale. invasion rate is clearly saying that there are no elections during the war time, and the president is suiting until the next elections are, are being held. so we know what we have done, and we know that it is for the best of all the country. so as a parliamentary presidential republic, we could operate as the democracy according to the rules. thank so much for a talk. yes. through about sex and that you currently and lawmaker acute it really thank you and glory to you. great. so what we got is look at the top story,
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