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this is ruling against benjamin netanyahu, whose government and its reaction to the hamas, to attacks of the 7th of october. for the code also ordered israel to allow investigators to check that is a comply with the previous order. so benjamin netanyahu do is he's told this time, i'm feel go environment and this is the day the isn't most immediate to be who may need to open. this order is groundbreaking. there's no power on us. will stuff is route from protecting its citizens and it is the 1st time that explicit mention is what is the hope? it's melody actually sit thinking that you know where they're in order to harm innocent people. it's just completely false. that's just not how the idea of functions is that how israel functions also coming up. joe biden
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rolls out the red carpet for canyon president william routes. so as the us tries to roll about china's influence in africa, and i believe it is the time that you were walking with king deep royce, it's capabilities. and really like minded democratic countries to set up the cost for democracy. welcome to the de israel. most stuff it's ministry offensive in rafa, and that on humanitarian 8 to flow freely into the gaza strip. that was the order from the u. n's top called the international court of justice to these right, the government is late. these daughter adds to a growing list of diplomatic and legal moves against age row and have undermined its international standing. and comes days after prosecutors that another international tribunal, the international criminal code called for the rest of israel's prime,
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minnesota. and in the same week, that's 3 european countries to be coordinated, step of recognizing the state of palestine. we'll have expert legal analysis of today's ruling in a moment. first, let's hear from the president of the international court of justice. the wife saw the court consider that in conformity with the obligation under the genocide convention, is that it must immediately hold. it's mindy to offense and any other action instead of a government which may inflict on the by assuming a group and gaza conditions of life that would bring about its physical destruction in whole or info. mary ellen o'connell as professor of law and profess of international peace that is at the university of notre dame in the united states. one of her numerous books is self defense against non state actors. she joins us from rio de janeiro and the present. a welcome to dw professor. this rolling sounds
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pretty unequivocal. not a lot of wiggle room for israel. there is no wiggle room in this order. remember, it's the 3rd order issued by the international court of justice. in this case, the 2 prior orders have been defied. people are still dying in large numbers, especially civilians, especially children. the court, like everyone in the world including president biden, sees this operation against rasa as nothing short of catastrophic. the court has ordered a halt to this operation. what else could it do? well, isabel has said all along, but it has pursued these actions in the defense of its citizens. following not the bob bob rest of the time by how much terrorist why wasn't not enough for the quote which israel's argument is. attempt of justification has flaws in it. on a number of levels on the 1st level, the international court itself has ruled in 2004 that
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a war and all out war. under the un, charter's recognition of the right of self defense cannot be waged against a zone of occupation by the occupier. of the forces real can take defensive measures, it can do whatever it wants on his own territory to, to defend from an incoming attach further terrorist attacks. but it cannot launch it all out. war having launched this war in defiance of the court's own prior decision. it then has to comply with certain rules derived from the geneva conventions. no one is in or, and international humanitarian law. that whatever your military objective is, you have to 1st and foremost distinguish between fighters and civilians. you must only carry out those operations that are necessary to accomplish the military objective, not cause disproportionate loss of civilian life. and at all times remember humanity. the humanity of the victims of armed conflict and the fighters. oh,
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they rarely sold his own humanity. and the court has had evidence brought by south africa that israel's not complying with either its prior ruling in the wall case or these fundamental principles of international military and law. not allowing food in it didn't comply with the 1st order in january. so then the 2nd order came in march, it didn't comply with the 2nd order. the 3rd order has come. and this order, as you pointed out, is really definitive, is as, as clear and as black and white as any board of the international court is ever issued. it means not only that israel must comply, but every state in the international community whose law we're talking about, the law, the international community has to assist. the court has to assist south africa, is in bringing enforcement. we all know that the country most in a position to really help enforce this most recent order is the united states
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president biden himself as warrant is real about this rasa offensive. he has the piece, the last country that's providing really extensive weapons, are offensive weapons to israel. president biden is the person i want to listen to this order and say, okay, we must hold delivery of offensive weapons to israel is real, has to know it's alone and believing that what it's doing complies that the law because it does not on following on from that does is ruling open up the possibility of international sanctions against israel i it possibly, but i think sanctions are beside the point at this moment. what really needs to happen is for the israeli government to listen to its own people, to listen to people around the world saying we do not want this kind of carnage in our name. this kind of a failure to comply with the law. we do not want to be lawbreakers. we want to be
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those who uphold the rule of law that a sanctions are not necessarily a great option. it is. thanks. it, of course, for the us to withhold weapons. lots of countries now have changed fundamentally their position. these are the israel because of its failure to comply with international law either as it is exemplified or is it as explained by the court or as their own legal advisors have seen this. at this point, we see sanctions not doing as much as they should do to persuade russia. i don't think sanctions beyond withholding weapons are really going to be the thing that moves israel now. okay, but whatever it takes, i'm happy to hear governments stepping up. let's talk about 2 things. today's a court ruling hasn't ordered. number one, a cease fire. and number 2, at any ruling on whether or not israel has committed genocide,
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it cannot. then the 2nd point it cannot rule on that point definitively. yet these are emergency orders that the court has been ruling these 3 sets of orders are emergency orders provisional measures, pending the outcome of a full case on the merits. so until that happens, israel, the court cannot rule definitively on what their genocide is occurring or has occurred by the time it rules on the merits. as the court said after its 1st set of orders in january there, there's plausible indications of genocide, but it is in no position. and it would be a defiance of its own rules to make a definitive finding on that point right now. so that's the 1st one, please remind me of your 2nd a ceasefire. so no tool in this room layer of a ceasefire in the hold of this conflict to the remember the 1st 2 orders are more
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comprehensive. they apply to all gaza and they say that israel has to take all these measures to prevent genocide that's. that's as much as the is unfortunately from my point of view, it's not a case about peace and compliance with the prohibition of the use of force. it's a case about the genocide convention. so the court in before it's made its full findings in the, in the case in a preliminary way is trying to ensure that the genocide convention is not violated . so it's pointed out to israel that it's got to take more measures to ensure that the, what is real is doing is not uh, eliminating the palestinian people in whole or in part. and that's a different goal then, perhaps if it had a more general basis for ruling on violations by israel in a gaza. so it's limited in terms of the treaty there, which the cases brought. thank you so much for that. okay, so that professor,
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professor mary ellen o'connell from no state university in the united states. i thank you. let's take a look at that on potential is railey and american reactions to these rules. and the atlantic councils and american think tank in the field of international affairs . and alyssa poverty is an associate director mid list of programs. she joins us from washington, d. c. welcome to the w and the can we start with your thoughts on this latest ruling against israel? of course, and thank you for having me. um, so this late latest ruling against israel comes in the wake of a week, a week long and a week where we've seen a number of other instances, a cure in the international community that have been quite outspoken against israel . and so the 1st one was the i c c arrest warrants that were made at the beginning of the week against both is really and how much the leaders and on the israel side,
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those were against benjamin to, to know. and you have to kalonde prime minister and the minister of defense. and subsequent to that, we also saw a number of european union countries that have come out in defense of palestine by baffling and bicycle by its own, my backing, the creation of costing and state. and these are ireland, norway, and spain. and the quote of this much, we wait for your but like, you know, your thoughts time you show it on the say i'd like your thoughts on today's really of course. so on, on today's ruling, this obviously is, is a ruling by the, by the i c j that, that is trying to pressure israel into not going into raw sign they want. and the i, c, j is eager to see a more international, more international pressure on to israel. and of course, as you're as the, as,
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as the person before me cover this will likely hinge on whether the united states will want to support or not the i c j's ruling because the i c j on, on its own, doesn't have so much of an enforcement mechanism onto these onto this ruling, but the way it can in force it is through a united uh, united need security counts the united nations security council resolution. but for that to happen, the united age needs to needs to be in favor of that and can't veto that. a deafening silence so far from the white house. why do you think that is a deafening silence? they are deciding on the next steps the united states has had somewhat of a big us, um role or in a big us uh, uh, way of, of, of deciding on, on these latest instances when it comes to israel. we've seen
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a 2 tier approach when it comes to present invite in specifically where in public in some instances he's been more vocal and critical of israel but in other instances. but he's mostly in practice supported. and israel's war and gaza. and so, as of now and also as of now that we've heard of benjamin to, to now agreeing to speak of congress again and in defiance of, of, of payment as of the president biden. this way, this may bring to a greater was between the relationship between natania hour and by the end of may. and that may have an effect on the way president biden decides to tackle this latest ruling. okay, so this, this wedge being driven between the, the leaders of united states and israel accept that when we had the announcement
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from the international criminal court prosecute to this week, there was actually no delay from the united states in condemning this move. or that is correct, there is no delay. again, the sense is that because benjamin is hang out, is going to defy a president by an in congress and speaking in front of congress. this may be the moment for president biden to strike back against prime minister netanyahu, but it is also likely that he may not do that because up until now, he has been forceful in his backing and supporting israel through providing military and financial support by on vetoing un council resolutions. so the sense is that he is waiting to kind of provide more pressure onto biden, but at the end,
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he will again oppose the i c, j a ruling. is that an argument that benjamin netanyahu is governments, is actually going to fall to row back. now, having declared that intention to destroy high mass and rescue the hostages, must they now keep going? the argument on israel side is that the raw size, the last gold pulse where hamas is hiding and if they don't continue now, they will not be able to when essentially the war that they started in october. and president biden has said repeatedly that to an extent he, he agrees, but he also disagrees with with it in the sense of, um, wanting to see more. right. uh, wanting to see is, will be or cognizant of civilian casualties. okay. same time. yeah. we're going to
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leave you that. thank you so much for joining us as a positive from atlantic council. thank you so much. i so thank you so much. well, the wife has started one of his biggest ever state dinners in honor of canyon president william router, who's on the state visit to the us husband biden hoops to find about his country's interests and the counter. a growing russian and a chinese influence in the east african states. the 1st african leader on the state visit to washington in 16 years. william roots as cheap as a sign of the growing importance of the continent. home to more than a 1000000000 people came here, has long been one of the united states, most important allies in africa and its status is about to get even higher. good afternoon everyone. please have a seat. i'm proud to announce we're working with congress to designate can you
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a major non nato ally? that's a fulfillment of years collaboration. photos visit is being closely watched back home in a region he'd by political term. i like the us and can you maybe divided by distance, but the leaders say they're united by their values. my business takes place. i don't time when democracies seem to be retreating worldwide. the expedited thing due to what redeemed indifference to democratic buttons is that deep concern to us . and i believe at this time that you're working with king deployed capabilities and rarely like minded democratic countries to set up the cost for democracy. a democracy has been known to decline in africa in the past year military. coups wars and mart elections brought to power petitions looking for closer ties with russia.
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in china. the us wants to advance its interest and countries like 10. yeah. but to do so, we'd 1st needs to decrease africa's financial dependence on b g. so today we're warranty. what we're calling and i robi washington. this in this initiative is going to bring together in the national financial institutions and nations. more around the world to mobilize more resources for countries saddle with that to open more opportunities to the private sector, financing mode, transfer, sustainable and affordable lending practice. the basis just one of the deals can use president will be taking home prophets and meeting the top brass in washington . and as such as the us says, it's offering a democratic alternative with that to relations with russia in china. his visit may present a chance to turn the tide on the continent distinguished. let's get more on this from dw correspondence janelle doing belong in washington and phoenix. moving in, i wrote the welcome post i saw with you felix. so the president wrote to come out
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of his meeting with joe bottom, if anything more than a good dinner and a promise of close relations with the us. yes, indeed, the us had problem is that it will increase investment in can now. and companies like coca cola have promised to invest in billions of dollars in the country to over the next 5 years. and that will end up creating over $3000.00 jobs. microsoft has also committed to creating, i did have, i did have within the region which will increase kenya as a foot positioning as a digital powerhouse within the region. and that areas of increase investments include areas in health uh, security and can that will also be gaming in the area of infrastructure where the largest, uh, the longest part of the road between neighbor will be a little by side will be billets to
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a tune of of $474.00. be on which will be the lowest total road in africa. other areas i can, yeah. has gained, has been in terms of elect. so it is where they us to say that it will be helping can yeah. a fund electronic funds, i had those can you as a to in store and 7 general election so how does he gained anything quite a lot to being home. thanks. janelle durham alone. tell us more about washington once in exchange for all this generosity. well indeed, one of the defining characteristics of a state visit, of course, is that they are outcomes onto themselves. joe biden really wants to show that there was renewed momentum and us canyon relations after a period of let's call it relative inattentiveness as the conflicts in the middle eastern europe took center stage. but precisely because of those ongoing multi seed or conflicts, the white house is really looking for relationships with the emerging countries
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that would help ensure again stop some measure of economic and geo political in stability. so in cameo, washington sees a strong security partner in the region. it also wants to designate can you as a non nato ally in the region. but beyond that top emerging countries like can, you are also going to be crucial to securing supply chains in strategic sectors. like semi conductors, a country like kenya has a young population, has a manufacturing capabilities, and it has natural resources. and what really washington wants is to be able to have a part, a democratic partner in kenya in securing those of vital supply chains. making sure that the supply chains that go with or africa, or at least in part, tell, are controlled by a democratic partner, especially at a time when the us finds itself locked in a great power game. with all autocratic countries like russia and china, why should any i frequently to believe
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a washington problem is where they have been so inconsistent? i can't remember the obama administration waking up to the so called france of chinese influence in africa. i calling a big summaries of african leaders back in 2014, then the whole when quiet. so why would this latest a bunch of promises be any more productive of the that's a really fair question. and do you know what those remain to be seen? whether it will be productive or not, one can speculate one or the other way. and a lot of it, i guess, will also depends on whether joe biden makes the visit the other way. a meeting whether he goes to can y'all to show that he really is serious about taking advantage of this renewed momentum and us canyon relations. but i think it's also worth the taking a step backend, noting about tying those belton road program. this program that provides cheap loans, especially for infrastructure in africa and asia. we've been, we've seen more uh more than a decade of that program. and countries are now at
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a stage where they're really having to balance the investing nationally in their own countries with the service seeing their ballooning that's to china. and the difficulty of managing that balance is where washington is seeing an opening. there is a spot here in washington that there is a bits of china fatigue setting in and that is uh, that is an opening to be taken advantage off of phoenix. very good and not really we watch the feeling that about the americas inconsistent interest in the continents as well. people are saying that it's, it's more of a wait and see situation because i'm interested in store presidential by then from is there will be, must have investments in uh to watch. i forgot that is what we do to has. but he also promised into into twins to during the africa us, i mean that there will be a lot of integration on when it comes to peace and security and with what k now has already, by the end of the advertisement in artillery. and now becoming
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a non natural ally, then it looks like the us is actually very keen on implementing their commitments to ads as they approached as chief engineers on and think so to the problem is in africa and can now. okay, this time we meet it's um felix, we're in the in nairobi. thank you so much. janelle durham alone in washington can q as well or not was the day of the week. you can follow up to him on social media at dw news life just headlines around the clock post on dw, don't come on with the w as well. have a good day, have a great weekend, bye bye. the
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