360 degrees. and explore fascinating. both heritage dw world heritage 360. now hello and welcome to the segment. essentially this week we are in $200.00 foot south africa as a country. what does it sell for a new story collection to us up to apartheid? my name is edith kimani. welcome to the show. the know 30 is a growing 1994 south africans drunk from all backgrounds and races, custody of both in the 1st free and democratic elections. this like the end of the oppressive apostolic regime and it brought so it's out because 1st democratically elected president, nelson mandela into power. so today we're here to find out that 2 years later, how has the political space in south africa changed?

whether you would take a look back at those african history and what led up to today. you know, switching bases, we find out what young people think will start to facilitate and we'll take you on a v i p to arouse the width of but 1st we wanted to look back at what those 1st elections in 1994 really meant to people and we'll do this, we have a very personal account, but also as african correspondence. dionne holcombe. i still remember the date community, even though i was only 10 years old. there was a feeling of excitement and joy in the country. what i remember most communities, my grandmother, ruth elizabeth, woke up to 75 years old and it was the 1st time that she was allowed to vote. she went to the town hall with my aunt. and i remember her telling me that she was nervous and excited. she had put aside so she needed some help mocking her by the

paper. but she did it any way. she had lived most of her life and parties. so this day was something special, something historical, even under partridge, she and everyone else wasn't white when not allowed to vote, but this wasn't the only right that my grandmother didn't have. for example, she wasn't allowed to buy a home in certain areas. her family was supposedly moved to the child sky homeland, which was an area designated for black people only. and my grandmother couldn't go to white's only schools or university, and she was not allowed to get sick and jobs. in 1994 south africa took a new direction off the long side for the operation. oil side africans were given equal right. on the 27th of april, we watched news reports of voting across the country and for long snaking twos of people waiting for hours to exercise the democratic rights. i read and everyone

seemed excited. being happy on that day. but i also remember that there was some, yeah, about political violence that was happening at the time. and threats from some organizations that didn't want to see change. my grandmother passed away in 2017 and in her life time, she experienced 2 decades of democracy. it made a difference in her life apart from being able to vote, she was also able to get a pension from the government. and she was able to move to an area which she would never have in allowed to live in under punch. it now is an effort to unlock the 2 years of democracy. i have to wonder what her life would have been like if she had been free. well then, thank you so much for that support. now you might be wondering how south africa went from the country that it wasn't 94 to the country that we know it as today. we've had this overview which might help explain that and is there in south africa, we might have stopped you on the street to ask what you mean issues and good

selection of. and that's exactly what you're about to watch. south africa. and so i'll go into the piece and out of $10.00 to $7.00 meetings, registered voters, 42 percent under the age of $39.00. so our young people going to vote i of are you? yes, very hard for me to still make a choice in terms of you know who i'm voting for and i'm not interested. i'm not so shame, mitchell, mitchell, but i feel like it is maybe some was, was really to like to read so that they, they can be changeable in the south african economy. but i will see, i know the vote does have a value. i one line terms of the teams and eccentric victory in terms of, you know, the democracy around it. but, you know, obviously want that change. you want them feel like you both did something.

somebody's estimates that less than half of south africa students will cost vote. but who to vote for waldo is that wide range of political policies? these uh, some of the top contend this the n c with incumbent president serial room. a post office held the main position, democratic alliance with john dean hayes, and was a strong in the west in tape the economic feed on fights f e f f with fire bronte, julio, small lima, and was some on the list. alcohol in the possible can make up the ex president decal zoom up, and here's i'm going to with these. we have potty but wait. luma. who was all set for the government in a vote of no confidence due to his involvement scheme. that corruption scandal is not actually on the bylaws as a candidate. his party, however, has type some support in his home for being so positive natasha. while these election is marked as he is full of democracy, side of the guest is perfectly strong advocate unless law congress

o a n c is more and bustled the above. the reasons. in recent years, south africa's leadership was implicated in several coffins condos. most notably the influence of private business people on the government or what is known as this cup top and corruption scandal involving disputes run electricity provide up leaving south africans in the docs to top. it's all south africa has one of the world's highest unemployment weights at 32 percent. the gap between the rich and pull remains high. and while some of the demands that students called for back in 2015 with many, many youths are still struggling to get access to education. but beyond the plastic politics, we wanted to hear what issues you think are important. and the, since i'm a student is facing any changes he physically in his 1st head is doing as fit. so i feel like government could do something regarding the in his 1st issue. yeah. i'd

say an employment, but like that has been an issue for a while and i don't think the change can just easily be happen over just and it makes it. and then let's see that from part 2, friends that i think they over, they need 5 to 10 years to have that unemployment rate, you know, decrease iris. you've got to maintain like key industries and everything. yeah. to rid of that you opened for most i'm so the one thing for most systems also give a play house house case such as hospitals attend to patients as well. and then also um i tend to people's needs. but i don't think we're really heard of the what's important to me is the basic education and the improvement of rural areas. and they inforcement of the participation in improving the future off because oh, and youth engagement is improving the future of the country. so we've had from

a number of young voters there, but of course we have a lot more prepared for you. if you think from las treat debate, we went to to west to which is a hotline of use for existence, home to nelson mandela. and so many of the anti apartheid leaders, and we asked the young sales half because when will they be leaving the political leadership of this country? the hello and welcome back to the 70 to 70 percent street debates. my name is edith kimani, and this week we are back in the gorgeous city of china is but in south africa, now this country goes to the polls of the end of me for the 1st time ever in the country, democratic history and is over $350.00 registered political part to the people, surely how long it is to choose from. but today we are asking those political parties are present to the issues of the youth who benefits as a discussion for me then some fellow self advocate. and i wanna start with someone who's just 19 to just give me a picture of what south africa is at the moment,

the issue, the president issues for the youth right now, what are they? let's see. so that's it. as a country that is on fire, people in our country right now, suffering because of high rates of unemployment, gender based violence, criminality and crime is edited rates that is unprecedented in democratic south africa for young people. people who are going to have to build our lives in the next 51015 years right now someone my age 19 for us it's pertinent that we begin addressing these issues because they're the ones that are going to impact the type of lifestyle. my family was have when i began having a family so, so if you could just celebrate to 30 years of democracy, do you feel like those promises that were made and 94 have also gone down the dream some of materialize, but the ones that were most important to people like equity, justice, economic justice, those have not been materialized in our society. go just a few kilometers away from here to alexander the ascension. you know, you see the disparity, the one in has high rises,

has manicured loans. people that don't worry about what they're going to each tomorrow morning. on the other end, you have people who are trying to decide whether or not they'll be able to pay their rent or pay for transport to get to work or where they'll be able to feed themselves and their children. yeah, and it's against this backdrop, the to go into the pools, as i mentioned, for the 5th time. so wellington, you were present the youth league of the and see the pot to the screen of the home for the last the 2 years. when you hear somebody like what seem to speaking like this, do you think your policy has done enough in those years all pets? he has done? what includes all this time? and everything doesn't seem as what it is you cause all those miniature laws and all those big buildings speak. somebody with incense in and, and alexandra did the questions between the 2, the people that are from alexander to get work from they, they use some sort of immunization to get to feed, to send me these be. but what you can say is that, that it might be as low as how the hour an hour reading party has been doing things

. but did, it's not seem to say that there's nothing been done. i'll come back to you on what exactly you've been doing, but somebody who might have a different view is phase one of the new partners. in fact, the brand new horizons on see, do you believe, wellington, the thing that we all, one of the most an equal countries in the world, the people who are most effective to use a woman and all black. and it's just, it's use of male administration. and corruption within the political parties, and it's the reason why rising is on. so you have started started by a group of south africans who haven't found a political home the trudy represents or interests and aspirations of, of this country. okay. so let me speak to what kids like here for a 2nd because you are working with an organization that sort of looking at things from a but i view which site is more representative of west south africans for young people active when people care about this country. right, but i think for me,

what i think i would love to political parties to consider is that you do not politicize public participation for assistance. young people, you know, care more about the britain. but to issue the right can i see to my friend, do i have a decent school to go to after i finish with employment thing with university or high school? you know, do i have a job that is guaranteed from right? okay. yeah. let me ask uh the people who are at the back. how many of you intend to vote by show of hands? let's see. you didn't raise your hand. can you tell me why i wouldn't be able to vote because that different templates, curve, hudson's done for 4 feet an hour policies, and i know it said, you know, i'm, it says here and we have struggling is lake you. so mister d, u r, i would say a champion of a n c, a very big supporter. and when you hear a young fellow like this, seeing the n c, the people who are in power, they're not really working for us. what would possess you wouldn't like us to continue voting for the n c. so for me, i looked at what the agency have done. i looked at the track record in terms of how

have they been able to transform society from a space where there was 0 participation of black people in the key sectors of the economy. to know this expanded participation does more black people. there's a rising middle class and much black people, there's more back people that are getting educated. and so what we must remember is that this imperative to transform society that the nc promised in 1994 with a difficult job that they had to do the must be people and they have tried to go and deliver results. so let's say let's come back to the issues again for young people. what are some of the things for you that are so critical? locating these to good results, unemployment needs to be results. these are issues that are holding. so that for got back into the holding young people back, you know, be sure all of this took about those forces. i mean, it's not through the forces that lead to the destruction of s, comment, the breakdown of reduce the of what do you see that it was truly is. it was favoring of people that are in the same circles as the people in power that has to

lend from the top. but when the top is compromised, what is their left? so let's have some solutions. what needs to be done now by the pa, to by the people of south africa to make this a country the to once it is important to show up to vote. because of what it does is that, you know, it makes it difficult for the political parties who are here and even independent candidates. because i think when we do most of the justices young people to only talk about, you know, the utah potty, the 2 parties, the writ potty and the people party who must also emphasize in those in gauge with independent candidates. because i think often times even the messaging around, you know, voting and sort of, particularly in this country with young people. it only ends the boat and vote for us and all those things. and sometimes you find that again, resources have been politicized with some political parties. we engage with them. people will say, you know, we've been told that you must vote for this part because they'll give us jobs. but i'm going to encourage all of us. you have young people, it doesn't stop there, we must pull up on the vote. much one of those 2 months that we made to save you some i 2 months as we did the right. and, you know,

i'm following up. i know you mentioned the political process seems to end on the day of the election for most young people. what can young people and indeed political parties do to move the country forward. i think we've got hygiene needs at the same type of everything because you know what young men and women need, but i mean for the nothing quite ups i'm covers. it covers the disability we'd be capable in an integrated seems to be jersey is the 2nd one, and also we need to get started. okay. all right, so for the phase like what do you think the country needs? so my brother said corruption, this off of corruption is to prevent it. so the way how we hire and fire all politician, it needs to be according to what culture. so a senior leadership like the head of police commissioner or the geez, will have a numerous power to bring change when they need to go through and to go a transparent approved to a transparent interview, processed by an independent panel. so then the public can politically scrutinize, the 2nd thing is procure, i'll procurement system is with the cause of corruption live. and so we're saying

that we need to introduce technology like block chain to be able to transparently see who is getting the tender, how many people have fitted. and if they continue to see if i use uh who have been getting the 10 does the public are able to easily be to hold some people accountable, willing to let me hear from you as to the other of just like them to just stay, not just the mistake, because if you wouldn't, i'd say it's the mystic editors. if you have just the music edit, you obviously, you know, going to, if you're going up, be finding information and finding all these things. once you've h yourself fight, you know, better outcome. you said you're not being supported if you did even choice. so we started this debates with what's the and i want to conclude with him, right. what do you think your people, when doing pa, to, when you a politics? what are the things that you want to see? what i see better accountability that has been cut to report that most people that are still in government, nothing's been actioned on it. we just want to functional country. we just want to live harmonious. we just want to live in a country that reflects the vision that was settled when we reached 1994 and it was

set that our worst days were behind us. we can feel that the nation is on auto pilot. and the people running into opposition to people running just generally in the selection. none of them inspire us to feel that. so that's what that's going to be. but she says to us don't be pessimistic. but we're only pessimistic because it's been paying attention for the last 2 years. well, that's a beautiful place as green as it sounds. it is a great place to rock this debate. thank you all for watching. i do like what you said. it was not which cat gets into government so long as that cut come catch the mice. thank you for watching the so thank you so much to everyone who participated in last week debate. we really appreciate your insights, but i wanted to conceptualize that conversation a little bit more and i'm going to buy fellow done this and, and the list kind of 190. thank you for joining us. thanks for having me. so we've just had the views of young people today. so went to and i was just curious, you know, talking about nelson mandela's dream. if you want to wake up today and just to

attack because it's become, do you think you would be impressed or not? i think you would be the best, the 2 ways of taking the kids being pressed by the fact that there's a multiplicity, and they are diverse options on the table for young people to look at. i think you'd be very proud of the fact that young people, despite the fact that the voting behavior doesn't think up with the, the kind of power that they have in their hands. that they're asking questions ended up being critical of nelson mandela said, and one of his opening speech is after he was released from prison. if the amc does what the apache government does to remove that. and i don't think the spirit of, of the mind dealing legacy needs to be one where it's just rainbow in glitches. it also needs to have 5 questions that i think young people are asking hard questions . that's why you have such a such a crystallize voice of, of, of, of, of, of this disillusionment of not voting. and for those who are voting, you know,

that they have to mindset of what they need from the politician of the now. yeah. so you talked about 2 groups, the ones were not voting, of the ones who are, and this big number that keeps being repeated 14000000 unregistered voted for. if the trend continues and young people avoid being point, it takes a political participation. what does that mean for the future of politics in this country? one of the key issues we have to address is the fact that the average age of south africans, according to last year, since this is around 2627. so if you have more people growing in that 14000000 gap, it means that we're not going to reach quorum, which is something that to africans never really had a problem with in the past, you're going to have elections being decided by a group of people who may no longer be with in the demographic or the living demographic by the time, by the time the next election rolls around. but that's down to 2 things. one is, is the issue of representation, right? not in terms of just age,

but also in terms of understanding gender class. this so many demographics, fault lines. it's still an operation within, within south africa city is on that. i don't think that we address it also means that small apply to the crowd. movements are going to take advantage of the fact that no one is voting and create groups outside of the political party as a, as an association or group. and that brings to for an important question which is do you think this lack of representation in the political sphere is what is creating this huge gap in this story that i'm being told, the politicians seem to be speaking. one thing and young people was talking about something completely different to a certain extent. yes, there was a segment that i saw and they said you see a couple of days ago when men said, when i, when you given me a job, i will go vote. so now there's a question of ok, use a not just these reproductive entities that are just use for political hold. use one

to be economic beings which we social beings before they engage in political action . and that's something that has to be interrogated and, and something that has to be taken into account. you know, we're not having any conversations about why they know young women are presenting political parties in this election period. okay, so very quickly, we've looked at quite a number of issues. do you think the selection is going to bring any change whatsoever to the current state of affairs in the country? i think people should look out for the role of small parties. people need to also look out for how the votes change a certain provinces, but it wasn't, and it's always a huge problem to look out for. but i think that the smaller parties may payroll because they're closed off for very full, very rounded conversations to be had about community based issues. and the 2021 local government election showed us that those issues as well. what people seats in councils and then municipalities around the country. and i don't see, i don't see

a way in which those client, when again, in other national provincial level, independent candidates is going to be interesting because as much as the very few of them. and they can only have one seats, the kind of issues that can be tabled in a new parliament with independent candidates put, create interest in coalitions moving forward. right? so a lot they have to look forward to re country to see how the election unraveled. thank you so much for your time. kind of 190 fellow just as i said. and also i least, no idea what is the width of the district debate i had promised you that you're gonna get a v. i p to a of the township, and that's exactly what's coming up. thanks to this graffiti artist. this works. hello, this is samsung chaplain, known as soon as i have 911, i'm a street address where come to come to. so a born and bred in to

where to send to ne, reflect the back of his hand from the power part. the clips down to the more of market area or keep close to window is the melting pulse of old walks of life. but for what i have a dock history, it was created back in 19 thirty's, when the south african government started separating black people from white people . today, the eclectic township is the country's largest of its kind send though is a well known face in this neighborhood. he always felt this morning with a visit to mamma tempest. so like i say it's, it's a little control patches. so it's a little more if it takes in chips center with no strangers to this kind of work. they used to wake up every morning at 4 am to peel potatoes. he and his grandmother would sell that, so to work has commuting to johanna, his book, shops like these are the beating heart of business. and so which of this is the

symbol of success? people growing up in the sense of passion for us, blossomed in the middle of a pod hide. he began by painting free, then jealous signs on any blank wall he could find. he went on to study in switzerland, but decided to return to use the lubbock to rachel. today you can spell his trademark colorful as old across the city, including on the eye clinic, the to send them a. today it's a ruined but back in the day it was one of the only places where black people could watch movies. yes, you could look to the voice of quitting or see anything to the government, but you always on the street and writing 17, treating that universal language and see, you know, we are not happy with the system so which i played a pivotal role in the eventual down full of apartheid sense i ponders the legacy of the so what, who uprising at the hectic peterson memorial way?

hundreds of school children were gone down. my police in 1976. that's the symbol that represented in my heart. i am here today. i'm free. i know my rights because of my uncles in my mind as i find that fort for us so that she can have a bit tonight. south africans now come together to celebrate freedom day commemorating the 1st post apartheid elections held in 1994 cents when his friends monkey occasion at a club neighbor's home. well, that brings us to the end of a very special show here in johannesburg. thank you for your company and you know what to tell us what you think we love hearing from you? why don't you write to us and you know where to find other shows though you too

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